AJ eliminated a potential threat to his mom. One that killed Brody, framed his mom, pointed a guyn at his mom, and then was going to sell his mom to slavers. If he snuck into Marlon's cell with a flame thrower or cut Marlon's sleeping throat I'd have understood it. Shooting him in the head while emotions were still heated especially his own makes perfect sense. I mean he still needs so.e discipline but judging from his under the bed comments and
The episode 2 teaser.
He really wants to protect Clementine at all costs. Possibly because he couldn't protect her before. I remember when I was his age my mom we t through something and I had a knife to kill my Dad. And I always felt guilty I couldn't protect her.
I agree with you. He doesn't deserve to look at the flowers at all. He deserves to stare straight down an over-under, and watch as his melon gets turned into spaghetti-O's.
Um did you play the whole season secretly for you to say AJ shouldn't look at the flowers? That's just the beginning for our future serial killer friend....but I do hope we can save him.
Um did you play the whole season secretly for you to say AJ shouldn't look at the flowers? That's just the beginning for our future serial killer friend....but I do hope we can save him.
You call him a demon. But he is obsessively protective of Clem. If the theories are right and something BAD happened to Clem at the ranch. And he was powerless to protect Mama Clem are you still going to assume he's some sort of heartless demon. It's quite clear he loves Clem. So if you're going to start making comparisons you should find killers who were protective of those they love. Like Dexter.
That's just the beginning for our future serial killer friend
You mean " That's just the beginning for our future serial killer friend"
I do hope we can save him
There is no salvation for the demon that is AJ
If the theories are right and something BAD happened to Clem at the ranch. And he was powerless to protect Mama Clem are you still going to assume he's some sort of heartless demon
Are you implying that he might've had to kill to protect Clementine at the ranch? If so, probably, but it all depends on the situation. Now remember, this is AJ we're talking about, the same piece of shit who most likely thought Clem was STILL in danger once Marlon had been defused, so if he somehow came to the conclusion that Clementine was danger at the ranch, chances are she wasn't.
Like Dexter
Hey, my name is actually a spin on the name Dexter!(off topic)
I'm going to take your hand and step into a visualization. Nobody else come along or you only have yourself to blame!
mod edit: yeah, while I don't like to censor people, please don't get into too much graphic detail on "Clementine was raped" theories, they make people uncomfortable in a bad way.
Now what do you think happens to future threats of Mama Clem?
Let's review the evidence.
AJ hesitates to eat the snack food because he wants Clem to eat.
He wants to sleep under the bed so he can keep watch on Clem when she's sleeping.
Episode 2 teaser: he wants to patrol and protect Clem
"Have you ever loved someone so much
You'd give an arm for
Not the expression, no
Literally give an arm for
When they know they're your heart
And you know you are their armor
And you will destroy anyone who would try to harm her"
Lyrics by AJ ( Eminem)
"But what happens when karma
Turns right around and bites you
And everything you stand for turns on you to spite you
What happens when you become the main source of her pain"
AJ by episode 2 ( because he's making her life harder)
If the theories are right and something BAD happened to Clem at the ranch. And he was powerless to protect Mama Clem are you still going to … moreassume he's some sort of heartless demon
Are you implying that he might've had to kill to protect Clementine at the ranch? If so, probably, but it all depends on the situation. Now remember, this is AJ we're talking about, the same piece of shit who most likely thought Clem was STILL in danger once Marlon had been defused, so if he somehow came to the conclusion that Clementine was danger at the ranch, chances are she wasn't.
Like Dexter
Hey, my name is actually a spin on the name Dexter!(off topic)
I'm going to take your hand and step into a visualization. Nobody else come along or you only have yourself to blame!
(Spoiler)
Now wh… moreat do you think happens to future threats of Mama Clem?
Let's review the evidence.
AJ hesitates to eat the snack food because he wants Clem to eat.
He wants to sleep under the bed so he can keep watch on Clem when she's sleeping.
(Spoiler)
"Have you ever loved someone so much
You'd give an arm for
Not the expression, no
Literally give an arm for
When they know they're your heart
And you know you are their armor
And you will destroy anyone who would try to harm her"
Lyrics by AJ ( Eminem)
"But what happens when karma
Turns right around and bites you
And everything you stand for turns on you to spite you
What happens when you become the main source of her pain"
AJ by episode 2 ( because he's making her life harder)
You are absolutely right! AJ has a trauma about Clem, you see it. He heard her cry and suffer and fail to save her. Now he was painting himself to protect her, he would die for her. He seems so nervous to hear her suffer from the nightmares, seeing that he has a problem with it.
I'm going to take your hand and step into a visualization. Nobody else come along or you only have yourself to blame!
(Spoiler)
Now wh… moreat do you think happens to future threats of Mama Clem?
Let's review the evidence.
AJ hesitates to eat the snack food because he wants Clem to eat.
He wants to sleep under the bed so he can keep watch on Clem when she's sleeping.
(Spoiler)
"Have you ever loved someone so much
You'd give an arm for
Not the expression, no
Literally give an arm for
When they know they're your heart
And you know you are their armor
And you will destroy anyone who would try to harm her"
Lyrics by AJ ( Eminem)
"But what happens when karma
Turns right around and bites you
And everything you stand for turns on you to spite you
What happens when you become the main source of her pain"
AJ by episode 2 ( because he's making her life harder)
And it may seem childish to ask (as seen in the teaser)
If he can sleep with her like he did when he was little but notice where he is sleeping Not between Clem and the wall but between Clem and anyone who tries to get into the room. If somebody comes in trying to hurt Clem they have to go through him.
You are absolutely right! AJ has a trauma about Clem, you see it. He heard her cry and suffer and fail to save her. Now he was painting hims… moreelf to protect her, he would die for her. He seems so nervous to hear her suffer from the nightmares, seeing that he has a problem with it.
@awesomeguyrocks@Alegra2018 What the fuck are you guys doing going on OUR journey? She said it was supposed to just be me and her. Now it's not special anymore.(btw, i didn't read any of it yet, I just came back and saw you guys replied to it)
I'm going to take your hand and step into a visualization. Nobody else come along or you only have yourself to blame!
(Spoiler)
Now wh… moreat do you think happens to future threats of Mama Clem?
Let's review the evidence.
AJ hesitates to eat the snack food because he wants Clem to eat.
He wants to sleep under the bed so he can keep watch on Clem when she's sleeping.
(Spoiler)
"Have you ever loved someone so much
You'd give an arm for
Not the expression, no
Literally give an arm for
When they know they're your heart
And you know you are their armor
And you will destroy anyone who would try to harm her"
Lyrics by AJ ( Eminem)
"But what happens when karma
Turns right around and bites you
And everything you stand for turns on you to spite you
What happens when you become the main source of her pain"
AJ by episode 2 ( because he's making her life harder)
Oh. Ok. Well, If what happened at the ranch is just as severe as what happened in your little scenario, as you have described it, I could see why he doesn't hesitate to shoot Marlon. Your theory isn't all that creepy. That kind of stuff would happen if the apocalypse was real. Hell, that shit's happening as we speak and there are no apocalypses
So before we go Javier/Negan or have him "look at the flowers" we need to consider he may have good reason to do what he does
Once we know more then we can be Judgey Jasons.
Oh. Ok. Well, If what happened at the ranch is just as severe as what happened in your little scenario, as you have described it, I could s… moreee why he doesn't hesitate to shoot Marlon. Your theory isn't all that creepy. That kind of stuff would happen if the apocalypse was real. Hell, that shit's happening as we speak and there are no apocalypses
Just hold the phone right there. If AJ was "unable to protect her" within that scenario, and suddenly feels the need to protect her when given the opportunity, wouldn't he have shot Abel the moment he saw Abel had his gun pointed at Clementine? He had him in his sights too.
So before we go Javier/Negan or have him "look at the flowers" we need to consider he may have good reason to do what he does
Once we know more then we can be Judgey Jasons.
Just hold the phone right there. If AJ was "unable to protect her" within that scenario, and suddenly feels the need to protect her when giv… moreen the opportunity, wouldn't he have shot Abel the moment he saw Abel had his gun pointed at Clementine? He had him in his sights too.
You claim he knows to be smart but isn't smart enough to realise Abel can't shoot her if he shoots him first That's such a no-brainer, an amoeba could've figured that out.
So he was smart when Abel had his gun pointed at her, but not smart when Marlon no longer had a gun to shoot Clementine?
He was smart to be prepared to kill Abel at the first opening. And Smart to kill Marlon at the first opening. Also smart to not shoot Marlon before he knew where Clem was. Not smart to take his eyes off Marlon allowing him to get the gun .
He didn't want Abel to shoot Clem
You claim he knows to be smart but isn't smart enough to realise Abel can't shoot her if he shoots… more him first That's such a no-brainer, an amoeba could've figured that out.
So he was smart when Abel had his gun pointed at her, but not smart when Marlon no longer had a gun to shoot Clementine?
He was smart to be prepared to kill Abel at the first opening. And Smart to kill Marlon at the first opening. Also smart to not shoot Marlon before he knew where Clem was. Not smart to take his eyes off Marlon allowing him to get the gun .
How could he have seen Marlon as more dangerous than Abel? When Clementine comes out of the cellar, we already see AJ has his gun pointed at Marlon. He didn't know what happened down in the cellar, so what gave him reason to believe he had done something wrong? He should've been just as confused as everyone else.
Marlon attacked AJ ( don't bring aj pointed a gun first in his eyes he was justified)
Marlon pointed a gun at Clementine.
Marlon threatened to give Clementine to raiders.
How could he have seen Marlon as more dangerous than Abel? When Clementine comes out of the cellar, we already see AJ has his gun pointed at… more Marlon. He didn't know what happened down in the cellar, so what gave him reason to believe he had done something wrong? He should've been just as confused as everyone else.
Marlon attacked AJ ( don't bring aj pointed a gun first in his eyes he was justified)
Marlon pointed a gun at Clementine.
Marlon threatened to give Clementine to raiders.
I'm going to take your hand and step into a visualization. Nobody else come along or you only have yourself to blame!
(Spoiler)
Now wh… moreat do you think happens to future threats of Mama Clem?
Let's review the evidence.
AJ hesitates to eat the snack food because he wants Clem to eat.
He wants to sleep under the bed so he can keep watch on Clem when she's sleeping.
(Spoiler)
"Have you ever loved someone so much
You'd give an arm for
Not the expression, no
Literally give an arm for
When they know they're your heart
And you know you are their armor
And you will destroy anyone who would try to harm her"
Lyrics by AJ ( Eminem)
"But what happens when karma
Turns right around and bites you
And everything you stand for turns on you to spite you
What happens when you become the main source of her pain"
AJ by episode 2 ( because he's making her life harder)
Marlon attacked AJ ( don't bring aj pointed a gun first in his eyes he was justified)
Marlon pointed a gun at Clementine.
Marlon threatened to give Clementine to raiders.
How could he have seen Marlon as more dangerous than Abel? When Clementine comes out of the cellar, we already see AJ has his gun pointed at… more Marlon. He didn't know what happened down in the cellar, so what gave him reason to believe he had done something wrong? He should've been just as confused as everyone else.
This kid has three states. Ruthless, Pragmatic, And Hardened.
Hardened= he's like Clementine
Pragmatic= in theory by the term he should be less of a dick but since you only get it through being a dick and doing everything for him including giving him the crayons and the toy I'm guessing different definition of pragmatism
Ruthless= like Carver or the "devil" as you may call him. So I ask you did you get ruthless AJ because assuming these endstates mean anything ( and I doubt they do) you might be right about "your" AJ. But I got hardened.
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AJ eliminated a potential threat to his mom. One that killed Brody, framed his mom, pointed a guyn at his mom, and then was going to sell his mom to slavers. If he snuck into Marlon's cell with a flame thrower or cut Marlon's sleeping throat I'd have understood it. Shooting him in the head while emotions were still heated especially his own makes perfect sense. I mean he still needs so.e discipline but judging from his under the bed comments and
The episode 2 teaser.
He really wants to protect Clementine at all costs. Possibly because he couldn't protect her before. I remember when I was his age my mom we t through something and I had a knife to kill my Dad. And I always felt guilty I couldn't protect her.
I agree with you. He doesn't deserve to look at the flowers at all. He deserves to stare straight down an over-under, and watch as his melon gets turned into spaghetti-O's.
Um did you play the whole season secretly for you to say AJ shouldn't look at the flowers? That's just the beginning for our future serial killer friend....but I do hope we can save him.
You mean " That's just the beginning for our future serial killer friend"
There is no salvation for the demon that is AJ
You call him a demon. But he is obsessively protective of Clem. If the theories are right and something BAD happened to Clem at the ranch. And he was powerless to protect Mama Clem are you still going to assume he's some sort of heartless demon. It's quite clear he loves Clem. So if you're going to start making comparisons you should find killers who were protective of those they love. Like Dexter.
Edit: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/EvenEvilHasLovedOnes
Are you implying that he might've had to kill to protect Clementine at the ranch? If so, probably, but it all depends on the situation. Now remember, this is AJ we're talking about, the same piece of shit who most likely thought Clem was STILL in danger once Marlon had been defused, so if he somehow came to the conclusion that Clementine was danger at the ranch, chances are she wasn't.
Hey, my name is actually a spin on the name Dexter!(off topic)
I'm going to take your hand and step into a visualization. Nobody else come along or you only have yourself to blame!
mod edit: yeah, while I don't like to censor people, please don't get into too much graphic detail on "Clementine was raped" theories, they make people uncomfortable in a bad way.
Now what do you think happens to future threats of Mama Clem?
Let's review the evidence.
AJ hesitates to eat the snack food because he wants Clem to eat.
He wants to sleep under the bed so he can keep watch on Clem when she's sleeping.
Episode 2 teaser: he wants to patrol and protect Clem
"Have you ever loved someone so much
You'd give an arm for
Not the expression, no
Literally give an arm for
When they know they're your heart
And you know you are their armor
And you will destroy anyone who would try to harm her"
Lyrics by AJ ( Eminem)
"But what happens when karma
Turns right around and bites you
And everything you stand for turns on you to spite you
What happens when you become the main source of her pain"
AJ by episode 2 ( because he's making her life harder)
Flowers, look at the AJ.
You scare me
You didn't have to join us on the journey . You made that call.
I was just reading the comment section.
You are absolutely right! AJ has a trauma about Clem, you see it. He heard her cry and suffer and fail to save her. Now he was painting himself to protect her, he would die for her. He seems so nervous to hear her suffer from the nightmares, seeing that he has a problem with it.
And it may seem childish to ask (as seen in the teaser)
If he can sleep with her like he did when he was little but notice where he is sleeping Not between Clem and the wall but between Clem and anyone who tries to get into the room. If somebody comes in trying to hurt Clem they have to go through him.
@awesomeguyrocks @Alegra2018 What the fuck are you guys doing going on OUR journey? She said it was supposed to just be me and her. Now it's not special anymore.(btw, i didn't read any of it yet, I just came back and saw you guys replied to it)
Are those actual spoilers?
The first one is just A creepy theory I covered up to avoid triggering anyone. The second is from the teaser for episode 2.
Not only that, he put his hand on her shoulder.
Oh. Ok. Well, If what happened at the ranch is just as severe as what happened in your little scenario, as you have described it, I could see why he doesn't hesitate to shoot Marlon. Your theory isn't all that creepy. That kind of stuff would happen if the apocalypse was real. Hell, that shit's happening as we speak and there are no apocalypses
So before we go Javier/Negan or have him "look at the flowers" we need to consider he may have good reason to do what he does
Once we know more then we can be Judgey Jasons.
Just hold the phone right there. If AJ was "unable to protect her" within that scenario, and suddenly feels the need to protect her when given the opportunity, wouldn't he have shot Abel the moment he saw Abel had his gun pointed at Clementine? He had him in his sights too.
He didn't want Abel to shoot Clem. Notice he doesn't flinch with the gun on himself. But he knows to "be smart"
You claim he knows to be smart but isn't smart enough to realise Abel can't shoot her if he shoots him first That's such a no-brainer, an amoeba could've figured that out.
So he was smart when Abel had his gun pointed at her, but not smart when Marlon no longer had a gun to shoot Clementine?
He was smart to be prepared to kill Abel at the first opening. And Smart to kill Marlon at the first opening. Also smart to not shoot Marlon before he knew where Clem was. Not smart to take his eyes off Marlon allowing him to get the gun .
You're going to be so wrong about him by the end of the game. This, I swear
What do you mean? AJ must have seen Marlon as more dangerous.
How could he have seen Marlon as more dangerous than Abel? When Clementine comes out of the cellar, we already see AJ has his gun pointed at Marlon. He didn't know what happened down in the cellar, so what gave him reason to believe he had done something wrong? He should've been just as confused as everyone else.
Marlon attacked AJ ( don't bring aj pointed a gun first in his eyes he was justified)
Marlon pointed a gun at Clementine.
Marlon threatened to give Clementine to raiders.
this.
I get your theory, but that was unnecessarily graphic.
You will see that "child" for what he truly is. All in due time......
** slowly backs into the dark mist without breaking eye contact **
...
And AJ heard Abel: "I'm not gonna hurt you, I just want food"
You can be sure ... If Abel act like he gonna attack Clem AJ was shot him.
stop crying. she said "Nobody else come along or you only have yourself to blame!" and you chose to click it, so blame yourself
You mean " Whatever we shape him to become"?
No, I meant "You will see that "child" for what he truly is" as in this kid is the fucking devil and Marlon's death was only just the beginning
ive been making posts like this for ages now, people here really dont understand child psychology
I just say ... AJ can be evil when Clem gonna get hurt. You can see how he's mad about her bad dreams ...
for example.......
When did Marlon hurt Clementine?
This kid has three states. Ruthless, Pragmatic, And Hardened.
Hardened= he's like Clementine
Pragmatic= in theory by the term he should be less of a dick but since you only get it through being a dick and doing everything for him including giving him the crayons and the toy I'm guessing different definition of pragmatism
Ruthless= like Carver or the "devil" as you may call him. So I ask you did you get ruthless AJ because assuming these endstates mean anything ( and I doubt they do) you might be right about "your" AJ. But I got hardened.