You could've asked this here, but I don't think so. Larry was a BIG boy, he would've bounced back had it not been for Ole dog dropping a salt lick on him. God damn that oaf.....
Given how most other turning(s) go and the general amount of time spent trying to resuscitate him, I really doubt it.
At least, not any time sooner than when it put to a stop.
Probably the sheet she was given for her audition during the initial plans.
@Dex-Starr You could've asked this here, but I don't think so. Larry was a BIG boy, he would've bounced back had it not been for Ole dog dropping a salt lick on him. God damn that oaf.....
Appreciate the mention, dude, but I don't mind.
This seems like one of those questions that invites a fairly large amount of debate, especially considering one of the characters involved.
Do some research on heart attacks and it becomes obvious that Larry was never going to make it. He needed a defibrillator and medical personnel, neither of which were possible. He wasn't just going to spring back up and be okay. He was a goner.
....Do you actually know who tf that man was? Larry. Fucking Larry. That man was a walking tank. For him, having a heart attack was no more deadly than getting tickled with a feather.
Do some research on heart attacks and it becomes obvious that Larry was never going to make it. He needed a defibrillator and medical personnel, neither of which were possible. He wasn't just going to spring back up and be okay. He was a goner.
Ignoring the fact that Larry only reacts if you press on his chest 4 times, it's still obvious that he wasn't dead because you don't just immediately die if your heart stops. It takes some good 10 minutes without CPR for a person without circulation to die.
Well, Lee takes a quarter of that to get the only realistic escape route open, this including the time he spends comforting Clem, talking to Kenny, and approaching Lilly. The urgency of the situation was manufactured by Kenny because he needed his family saved ASAP, which is understandable... but only to a point.
Larry probably wasn't going to make it, but I'm sure a less unwarrantedly violent end to him would've done wonders to Lilly's mind state (and we all know what breaking ultimately Lilly led to). Giving Larry a more peaceful exit was possible, avoiding the the crazed Lilly we get in episode 3 was too, but Kenny was in too much of a hurry to get his family back.
It has always been an ambiguous scene. No one for sure knows if Larry was reviving or turning. That was the point of the scene. If Telltale want to come out and say if he was alive or dead then i hope they do!
Fact is, helping Larry was dangerous and stupid. He was beyond help without medical care, people revived from a cardiac arrest don’t just get up and walk and suddenly be fine. Larry was going to die either way, even Lee tells Clementine in episode 5 (though its determinant based on choices) where he tells her that Larry was going one way or the other meaning he’d die from being put down or from the heart atttack itself.
It actually takes 4 minutes. If someone hasn’t recovered within 5-6 minutes but then suddenly does revive, he or she is brain dead at that point. My mum is a nurse and has dealt with heart attack victims numerous times.
Point is, no matter what people think of that scene, it was left ambiguous so we won’t know for certain that he was still alive or already dead. Ultimately though, Larry was dead either way because as i said in my other post, without medical help he was going to die even if he could have been revived for a short period, he’d still die and that’s a fact. The smart and safe thing to do in that situation (not forgetting it is a zombie apocalypse where people die and turn) is to keep everyone safe by putting down what would eventually be a serious threat. It wasn’t just about rushing to get “you know who’s” family, he was thinking of everyone and not just himself whether someone is a fan or not of the guy, he even says as much if you stay silent when he asks you about it in the woods. A less violent way to kill him as you suggest i find impossible in that situation given the time frame of when he would turn and due to being trapped without any weapons other than the salt lick which was heavy enough to do the job. I’d love to hear how a more peaceful death was possible? Clementine’s rock that she claimed to have? That would still mean bashing his head in. Also don’t forget that the group only had the knowledge of how fast someone turned with when it happened to David/Travis which was very fast. So that would have made things even more intense being in that meat locker and what happened being done quicker than you would have liked.
Something horrendous is unavoidable sometimes and that scene was one of them. It is what it is.
Anyway we’ve been over this time and time again so it’s probably best not to dwell further given the arguments. I’m sorry if you don’t like what i’ve said.
Ignoring the fact that Larry only reacts if you press on his chest 4 times, it's still obvious that he wasn't dead because you don't just im… moremediately die if your heart stops. It takes some good 10 minutes without CPR for a person without circulation to die.
Well, Lee takes a quarter of that to get the only realistic escape route open, this including the time he spends comforting Clem, talking to Kenny, and approaching Lilly. The urgency of the situation was manufactured by Kenny because he needed his family saved ASAP, which is understandable... but only to a point.
Larry probably wasn't going to make it, but I'm sure a less unwarrantedly violent end to him would've done wonders to Lilly's mind state (and we all know what breaking ultimately Lilly led to). Giving Larry a more peaceful exit was possible, avoiding the the crazed Lilly we get in episode 3 was too, but Kenny was in too much of a hurry to get his family back.
It actually takes 4 minutes. If someone hasn’t recovered within 5-6 minutes but then suddenly does revive, he or she is brain dead at that p… moreoint. My mum is a nurse and has dealt with heart attack victims numerous times.
Point is, no matter what people think of that scene, it was left ambiguous so we won’t know for certain that he was still alive or already dead. Ultimately though, Larry was dead either way because as i said in my other post, without medical help he was going to die even if he could have been revived for a short period, he’d still die and that’s a fact. The smart and safe thing to do in that situation (not forgetting it is a zombie apocalypse where people die and turn) is to keep everyone safe by putting down what would eventually be a serious threat. It wasn’t just about rushing to get “you know who’s” family, he was thinking of everyone and not just himself whether someone is a fan or not of the guy, he even says as much … [view original content]
That is not true Dan. It takes 4 to 6 minutes for the braincells to start dying. Around 3 minutes after that, yes, the person can be officially deemed braindead. However, this is hardly an exact science, a lot of factors can weight in on those numbers. Temperature for example can extend this time period immeasurably. People have managed to survive up to 45 minutes without a heartbeat on frozen water. Other environments, such as a meat lockers can mimic such an effect.
Of course, it's ridiculous that we're talking about all these numbers and factors in the first place, since you are blatantly ignoring that Lilly was giving Larry CPR which is a way of keeping blood, and therefore oxygen going to the victim's brain. I personally know a nurse who sustained a victim without an heartbeat for 2 hours until assistance arrived.
The writers might've intended for it to be ambiguous, sure, but that doesn't erase the fact that it's physically impossible for someone to be braindead after roughly 2 minutes (and this is streching it by a lot) of having collapsed. This, of course, ignoring the cold environment, and ignoring the CPR that started immediately being given. It's not the only scientific inconsistency in the episode, mind you. The cannibals themselves claim that the meat becomes tainted even if the person doesn't ranimate, which we all know is not true.
Dan, I have two very close aunts who are nurses, but I acknowledge that that doesn't make empirical facts any more, or less true.
And you're missinterpreting my third point there. Larry could've been given a less sudden
and violent death if Kenny hadn't manufactured all the urgency and the panic. If instead of focusing on erasing the threat by killing Larry ASAP, which they didn't need to do because Larry wasn't going to be dead for a good, good while, they had focused on erasing the threat by finding a way out (which we all know is extremely easy and quick for Lee to acomplish; anyone who examines the room for a mere 10 seconds will acknowledge that unscrewing the ventilation is the only shot at escaping) they would've easily and quickly escaped the meat locker. From there... the possibilities are immeasurable.
Maybe they would've used the sickle to put Larry down.
Maybe they would've simply given it to Lilly and if Larry showed signs of reanimation, she would be ready to handle it.
Maybe they would even give the tazer a shot and attempt to use it to reanimate Larry's heart.
Be. Creative.
Either way, all those possibilities are a better alternative to what happened, that's for sure.
It actually takes 4 minutes. If someone hasn’t recovered within 5-6 minutes but then suddenly does revive, he or she is brain dead at that p… moreoint. My mum is a nurse and has dealt with heart attack victims numerous times.
Point is, no matter what people think of that scene, it was left ambiguous so we won’t know for certain that he was still alive or already dead. Ultimately though, Larry was dead either way because as i said in my other post, without medical help he was going to die even if he could have been revived for a short period, he’d still die and that’s a fact. The smart and safe thing to do in that situation (not forgetting it is a zombie apocalypse where people die and turn) is to keep everyone safe by putting down what would eventually be a serious threat. It wasn’t just about rushing to get “you know who’s” family, he was thinking of everyone and not just himself whether someone is a fan or not of the guy, he even says as much … [view original content]
I'll like to respond by saying yes he was going to turn. I'm actually a paramedic and have performed CPR on people. Let me just say hands only CPR without any other medical interventions will result in death, plain and simple. Just because the person doing CPR will eventually have to stop. Hands only CPR only prolongs circulation of blood to brain, and sometime ROSC can be witness (return of spontaneous circulation). During ROSC sometimes patient's eyes open, sometimes breathing return, and sometimes a pulse can be palpated. But this does not mean the patient is alive, this only mean adequate CPR is being performed; therefore there is adequate circulation. Hands only CPR is just doing the work the heart would be doing, if it were beating. You stop CPR you stop the circulation flow. Larry has suffered from cardiac arrest, his heart is likely in V-fib (ventricular fibrillation), basically meaning it isn't working correctly and he needs to be defibrillated by and AED or any other defibrillator device (which were not around). So in my personal and medical opinion, Larry is dead and would of turned once Lee would have stopped CPR.
I'll like to respond by saying yes he was going to turn. I'm actually a paramedic and have performed CPR on people. Let me just say hands on… morely CPR without any other medical interventions will result in death, plain and simple. Just because the person doing CPR will eventually have to stop. Hands only CPR only prolongs circulation of blood to brain, and sometime ROSC can be witness (return of spontaneous circulation). During ROSC sometimes patient's eyes open, sometimes breathing return, and sometimes a pulse can be palpated. But this does not mean the patient is alive, this only mean adequate CPR is being performed; therefore there is adequate circulation. Hands only CPR is just doing the work the heart would be doing, if it were beating. You stop CPR you stop the circulation flow. Larry has suffered from cardiac arrest, his heart is likely in V-fib (ventricular fibrillation), basically meaning it isn't working correctly and he needs to be de… [view original content]
I'll like to respond by saying yes he was going to turn. I'm actually a paramedic and have performed CPR on people. Let me just say hands on… morely CPR without any other medical interventions will result in death, plain and simple. Just because the person doing CPR will eventually have to stop. Hands only CPR only prolongs circulation of blood to brain, and sometime ROSC can be witness (return of spontaneous circulation). During ROSC sometimes patient's eyes open, sometimes breathing return, and sometimes a pulse can be palpated. But this does not mean the patient is alive, this only mean adequate CPR is being performed; therefore there is adequate circulation. Hands only CPR is just doing the work the heart would be doing, if it were beating. You stop CPR you stop the circulation flow. Larry has suffered from cardiac arrest, his heart is likely in V-fib (ventricular fibrillation), basically meaning it isn't working correctly and he needs to be de… [view original content]
Well first, Heavy rain is a game. And second Shawn was not dead, because he did not drown. Shawn experienced near-drowning where he was unconscious and his body requires oxygen. The game illustrates that by showing Ethan giving Shawn mouth-to-mouth. In a near-drowning getting the patient oxygen is paramount. That's why CPR is actually different for these patients. In a near drowning patient, mouth-to-mouth is needed and is actually performed before compressions; whereas in a cardiac patient like Larry compressions are delivered first because mouth-to-mouth isn't important. Maintaining circulation for an AED intervention to help "Reset his heart" (fun fact: defibrillators actually stops the heart) is important. Shawn didn't have heart problems, low oxygen to his brain was his issue. Without oxygen, hands only CPR would really do nothing for Shawn but support circulation, His brain needs oxygen. That's what happens with unconscious patients; there's low oxygen being supplied to the brain but they're still very much alive. Larry heart on the other hand is not functioning properly, oxygen isn't the issue, circulation is. He needs an electrical shock delivered to his heart.
Personally if there was a choice to let lily continue CPR, then smash his head in I would have taken that option. I knew Larry was going to die, but letting lily finished would convinced her of that also. She needed to see she couldn't do anything. Besides, it takes a bit for people to turn. Smashing his head in was the way to go. But how it was done made it seem evil.
this is probably the point where the group atmosphere cracked and was never the same right up till now, Kenny wasn't thinking straight and just wanted to find solutions to any question,from the look on his face after smashing Larry's face in,he seemed stunned,and set off a chain reaction with everyone.
He was not turning. He was on the floor and would not have jumped up and bit someone immediately. It was a sort of risky but he should not have been killed unless they knew for a fact he was a walker.
He was not turning. He was on the floor and would not have jumped up and bit someone immediately. It was a sort of risky but he should not have been killed unless they knew for a fact he was a walker.
I don't think he was dead yet. Maybe he was going to die, but no way should he have been killed like that until he turned into a zombie. Out of all the things that Kenny has done, even killing Jane, I think killing Larry, and in front of his daughter, is the worst.
It has always been an ambiguous scene. No one for sure knows if Larry was reviving or turning. That was the point of the scene. If Telltale … morewant to come out and say if he was alive or dead then i hope they do!
Fact is, helping Larry was dangerous and stupid. He was beyond help without medical care, people revived from a cardiac arrest don’t just get up and walk and suddenly be fine. Larry was going to die either way, even Lee tells Clementine in episode 5 (though its determinant based on choices) where he tells her that Larry was going one way or the other meaning he’d die from being put down or from the heart atttack itself.
Personally if there was a choice to let lily continue CPR, then smash his head in I would have taken that option. I knew Larry was going to … moredie, but letting lily finished would convinced her of that also. She needed to see she couldn't do anything. Besides, it takes a bit for people to turn. Smashing his head in was the way to go. But how it was done made it seem evil.
Only the way it was portrayed. Kenny did the right thing. Larry was about 350 lbs, I wouldn't have given him a chance to turn either. That would have been a bigger problem if they would have let him turn. I would have personally smashed his head in after lily stopped CPR. CPR wasn't going to help him anyway. He was absolutely going to die.
I wouldn't say what Kenny did was evil so much as rather thoughtless and somewhat hasty.
Also, while trying to revive Larry was at least something that should've been given some time, essentially killing him if he wasn't recovering before he could turn was indeed the move to eventually take.
If he would have turned, they would have to deal with a 350lb walker locked in a small space with only saltlicks as weapons. That would have been a huge risk. He was going to die, no matter what. Kenny did the right thing not letting him turn. But I just think Kenny did it too abruptly. Once CPR would've ceased then kenny should have smashed Larry's head in, not giving him anytime to turn.
I think you are saying: Wait until Larry has turned into a walker. I am saying: wait until CPR has ceased. In one statement Larry is trying to tear out everyone's throats. In the other statement, Larry is still on the ground.
Probably the sheet she was given for her audition during the initial plans.
@Dex-Starr You could've asked this here, but I don't think… more so. Larry was a BIG boy, he would've bounced back had it not been for Ole dog dropping a salt lick on him. God damn that oaf.....
Appreciate the mention, dude, but I don't mind.
This seems like one of those questions that invites a fairly large amount of debate, especially considering one of the characters involved.
You could've asked this here, but I don't think so. Larry was a BIG boy, he would've bounced back had it not been for Ole dog dropping a salt lick on him. God damn that oaf.....
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You could've asked this here, but I don't think so. Larry was a BIG boy, he would've bounced back had it not been for Ole dog dropping a salt lick on him. God damn that oaf.....
According to the script that the voice of Lilly shared, no.
Oh so kenny just killed Larry like that wow I’m glad I chose to help lily
Wait wait wait hold on, what script?
Given how most other turning(s) go and the general amount of time spent trying to resuscitate him, I really doubt it.
At least, not any time sooner than when it put to a stop.
Probably the sheet she was given for her audition during the initial plans.
Appreciate the mention, dude, but I don't mind.
This seems like one of those questions that invites a fairly large amount of debate, especially considering one of the characters involved.
Even if he had "survived" he would have died sooner than later or been put in a incapciated state.
I think not, although realistically Larrys chances of surviving were pretty much non-existent.
Do some research on heart attacks and it becomes obvious that Larry was never going to make it. He needed a defibrillator and medical personnel, neither of which were possible. He wasn't just going to spring back up and be okay. He was a goner.
....Do you actually know who tf that man was? Larry. Fucking Larry. That man was a walking tank. For him, having a heart attack was no more deadly than getting tickled with a feather.
Ignoring the fact that Larry only reacts if you press on his chest 4 times, it's still obvious that he wasn't dead because you don't just immediately die if your heart stops. It takes some good 10 minutes without CPR for a person without circulation to die.
Well, Lee takes a quarter of that to get the only realistic escape route open, this including the time he spends comforting Clem, talking to Kenny, and approaching Lilly. The urgency of the situation was manufactured by Kenny because he needed his family saved ASAP, which is understandable... but only to a point.
Larry probably wasn't going to make it, but I'm sure a less unwarrantedly violent end to him would've done wonders to Lilly's mind state (and we all know what breaking ultimately Lilly led to). Giving Larry a more peaceful exit was possible, avoiding the the crazed Lilly we get in episode 3 was too, but Kenny was in too much of a hurry to get his family back.
It has always been an ambiguous scene. No one for sure knows if Larry was reviving or turning. That was the point of the scene. If Telltale want to come out and say if he was alive or dead then i hope they do!
Fact is, helping Larry was dangerous and stupid. He was beyond help without medical care, people revived from a cardiac arrest don’t just get up and walk and suddenly be fine. Larry was going to die either way, even Lee tells Clementine in episode 5 (though its determinant based on choices) where he tells her that Larry was going one way or the other meaning he’d die from being put down or from the heart atttack itself.
It actually takes 4 minutes. If someone hasn’t recovered within 5-6 minutes but then suddenly does revive, he or she is brain dead at that point. My mum is a nurse and has dealt with heart attack victims numerous times.
Point is, no matter what people think of that scene, it was left ambiguous so we won’t know for certain that he was still alive or already dead. Ultimately though, Larry was dead either way because as i said in my other post, without medical help he was going to die even if he could have been revived for a short period, he’d still die and that’s a fact. The smart and safe thing to do in that situation (not forgetting it is a zombie apocalypse where people die and turn) is to keep everyone safe by putting down what would eventually be a serious threat. It wasn’t just about rushing to get “you know who’s” family, he was thinking of everyone and not just himself whether someone is a fan or not of the guy, he even says as much if you stay silent when he asks you about it in the woods. A less violent way to kill him as you suggest i find impossible in that situation given the time frame of when he would turn and due to being trapped without any weapons other than the salt lick which was heavy enough to do the job. I’d love to hear how a more peaceful death was possible? Clementine’s rock that she claimed to have? That would still mean bashing his head in. Also don’t forget that the group only had the knowledge of how fast someone turned with when it happened to David/Travis which was very fast. So that would have made things even more intense being in that meat locker and what happened being done quicker than you would have liked.
Something horrendous is unavoidable sometimes and that scene was one of them. It is what it is.
Anyway we’ve been over this time and time again so it’s probably best not to dwell further given the arguments. I’m sorry if you don’t like what i’ve said.
It’s fine but thanks for this
Comment I was just speculating but your right I just wanted kenny on my side
That is not true Dan. It takes 4 to 6 minutes for the braincells to start dying. Around 3 minutes after that, yes, the person can be officially deemed braindead. However, this is hardly an exact science, a lot of factors can weight in on those numbers. Temperature for example can extend this time period immeasurably. People have managed to survive up to 45 minutes without a heartbeat on frozen water. Other environments, such as a meat lockers can mimic such an effect.
Of course, it's ridiculous that we're talking about all these numbers and factors in the first place, since you are blatantly ignoring that Lilly was giving Larry CPR which is a way of keeping blood, and therefore oxygen going to the victim's brain. I personally know a nurse who sustained a victim without an heartbeat for 2 hours until assistance arrived.
The writers might've intended for it to be ambiguous, sure, but that doesn't erase the fact that it's physically impossible for someone to be braindead after roughly 2 minutes (and this is streching it by a lot) of having collapsed. This, of course, ignoring the cold environment, and ignoring the CPR that started immediately being given. It's not the only scientific inconsistency in the episode, mind you. The cannibals themselves claim that the meat becomes tainted even if the person doesn't ranimate, which we all know is not true.
Dan, I have two very close aunts who are nurses, but I acknowledge that that doesn't make empirical facts any more, or less true.
And you're missinterpreting my third point there. Larry could've been given a less sudden
and violent death if Kenny hadn't manufactured all the urgency and the panic. If instead of focusing on erasing the threat by killing Larry ASAP, which they didn't need to do because Larry wasn't going to be dead for a good, good while, they had focused on erasing the threat by finding a way out (which we all know is extremely easy and quick for Lee to acomplish; anyone who examines the room for a mere 10 seconds will acknowledge that unscrewing the ventilation is the only shot at escaping) they would've easily and quickly escaped the meat locker. From there... the possibilities are immeasurable.
Maybe they would've used the sickle to put Larry down.
Maybe they would've simply given it to Lilly and if Larry showed signs of reanimation, she would be ready to handle it.
Maybe they would even give the tazer a shot and attempt to use it to reanimate Larry's heart.
Be. Creative.
Either way, all those possibilities are a better alternative to what happened, that's for sure.
No. He only makes that movement if you push on his chest enough. Pushing on someone's chest doesn't speed up reanimation.
I'll like to respond by saying yes he was going to turn. I'm actually a paramedic and have performed CPR on people. Let me just say hands only CPR without any other medical interventions will result in death, plain and simple. Just because the person doing CPR will eventually have to stop. Hands only CPR only prolongs circulation of blood to brain, and sometime ROSC can be witness (return of spontaneous circulation). During ROSC sometimes patient's eyes open, sometimes breathing return, and sometimes a pulse can be palpated. But this does not mean the patient is alive, this only mean adequate CPR is being performed; therefore there is adequate circulation. Hands only CPR is just doing the work the heart would be doing, if it were beating. You stop CPR you stop the circulation flow. Larry has suffered from cardiac arrest, his heart is likely in V-fib (ventricular fibrillation), basically meaning it isn't working correctly and he needs to be defibrillated by and AED or any other defibrillator device (which were not around). So in my personal and medical opinion, Larry is dead and would of turned once Lee would have stopped CPR.
Oh thanks I appreacite it
but ive seen hands only CPR performed in Heavy Rain (the game ) and it brought the kid back to life without the need of anything else? explain this xD
Well first, Heavy rain is a game. And second Shawn was not dead, because he did not drown. Shawn experienced near-drowning where he was unconscious and his body requires oxygen. The game illustrates that by showing Ethan giving Shawn mouth-to-mouth. In a near-drowning getting the patient oxygen is paramount. That's why CPR is actually different for these patients. In a near drowning patient, mouth-to-mouth is needed and is actually performed before compressions; whereas in a cardiac patient like Larry compressions are delivered first because mouth-to-mouth isn't important. Maintaining circulation for an AED intervention to help "Reset his heart" (fun fact: defibrillators actually stops the heart) is important. Shawn didn't have heart problems, low oxygen to his brain was his issue. Without oxygen, hands only CPR would really do nothing for Shawn but support circulation, His brain needs oxygen. That's what happens with unconscious patients; there's low oxygen being supplied to the brain but they're still very much alive. Larry heart on the other hand is not functioning properly, oxygen isn't the issue, circulation is. He needs an electrical shock delivered to his heart.
very interesting and detailed response,thank you ,very impressed!
Personally if there was a choice to let lily continue CPR, then smash his head in I would have taken that option. I knew Larry was going to die, but letting lily finished would convinced her of that also. She needed to see she couldn't do anything. Besides, it takes a bit for people to turn. Smashing his head in was the way to go. But how it was done made it seem evil.
this is probably the point where the group atmosphere cracked and was never the same right up till now, Kenny wasn't thinking straight and just wanted to find solutions to any question,from the look on his face after smashing Larry's face in,he seemed stunned,and set off a chain reaction with everyone.
He was not turning. He was on the floor and would not have jumped up and bit someone immediately. It was a sort of risky but he should not have been killed unless they knew for a fact he was a walker.
He was going to die. There was nothing they could have done to prevent that. But I agree, Kenny should have waited until Lily realized Larry was dead.
I don't think he was dead yet. Maybe he was going to die, but no way should he have been killed like that until he turned into a zombie. Out of all the things that Kenny has done, even killing Jane, I think killing Larry, and in front of his daughter, is the worst.
Helping Larry is a bit dangerous, yes, but not close to stupid.
Seem evil? It was evil.
Only the way it was portrayed. Kenny did the right thing. Larry was about 350 lbs, I wouldn't have given him a chance to turn either. That would have been a bigger problem if they would have let him turn. I would have personally smashed his head in after lily stopped CPR. CPR wasn't going to help him anyway. He was absolutely going to die.
That's the point. You can kill him in any way after he's turned, but not the time it was done.
I wouldn't say what Kenny did was evil so much as rather thoughtless and somewhat hasty.
Also, while trying to revive Larry was at least something that should've been given some time, essentially killing him if he wasn't recovering before he could turn was indeed the move to eventually take.
If he would have turned, they would have to deal with a 350lb walker locked in a small space with only saltlicks as weapons. That would have been a huge risk. He was going to die, no matter what. Kenny did the right thing not letting him turn. But I just think Kenny did it too abruptly. Once CPR would've ceased then kenny should have smashed Larry's head in, not giving him anytime to turn.
I think we're saying the same thing.
I think you are saying: Wait until Larry has turned into a walker. I am saying: wait until CPR has ceased. In one statement Larry is trying to tear out everyone's throats. In the other statement, Larry is still on the ground.
@Deltino
Really late, I realize, but here it is.
So was kenny right?
No, but I guarantee that if this happened in Season 2, they would've bullshit a way to say he was.
What does that matter? It's heart deceases we're talking about. Lilly even claimed that it happened before and that he needed to go to the hospital.
He bounced back from the heart attack in the pharmacy right? Did he go go the hospital then?
To be somewhat fair, he didn't utterly pass out and collapse into full on arrest then.