Should Clementine get her brutal cathartic moment?

Let's review some things first.

Lee: killed the saint Johns including beating Andy into a pulp ( possibly), fighting the stranger, possibly others.

Javier: turning Badger's brains into mashed potatoes, various other times in ANF

Kenny: His date with Carver and a crowbar

Shane: beating a child molester and wife beater into a bloody mess

Rick Grimes: too many to count but notable prizes to biting a biker's throat out, telling the cannibals " I already made you be a promise" and massacring them in the church, and killing a domestic abuser

Now look at Clementine. Her biggest acts are possibly spitting in David's face and telling javier not to open the door. She hasn't had a chance to vent her aggression or be brutal and ruthless yet. Everything she's done has been panicked or accidental.

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  • Sure why not?
    But my Clem isn't brutal.

  • I think part of that is the fact that she never really had a dedicated arc villain or archenemy meant specifically for her, nevermind one horrible enough to actually warrant a straightforward physical confrontation anywhere on that level.

  • Dex-StarrDex-Starr Banned
    edited September 2018

    Most definitely. I wanna dee her rip gouge someone’s eyes out and then disembowel them whith a dull stiletto. I feel like thats not gory enough though. She needs to commit ULTRA MANSLAUGHTER

  • Good thing too. You know how that Clem vs Marlon confrontation didn't go well with me.
    Clem puts hand on hips and points finger ''You suck at protection!''
    Every character shows their emotion, but they need to walk two steps before speaking oh wait that happens in every twd game!

    DabigRG posted: »

    I think part of that is the fact that she never really had a dedicated arc villain or archenemy meant specifically for her, nevermind one horrible enough to actually warrant a straightforward physical confrontation anywhere on that level.

  • Say what? :lol:

    Ghetsis posted: »

    Good thing too. You know how that Clem vs Marlon confrontation didn't go well with me. Clem puts hand on hips and points finger ''You suck

  • I wanted my Clem to forgive Marlon before shooting him in the head while everyone was least expecting it. AJ did it for me though lol.

  • Oh nothing, just sharing my thoughts, how I wouldn't want an Anti-Clem (wink wonk!)

    DabigRG posted: »

    Say what?

  • Oh.
    (Wonk?)

    Ghetsis posted: »

    Oh nothing, just sharing my thoughts, how I wouldn't want an Anti-Clem (wink wonk!)

  • @DabigRG I agree, there's no one for her to discount her anger if we have Lilly as our archenemy depending on the choices .. or maybe Abel

  • Same as wink in this context. ;)

    DabigRG posted: »

    Oh. (Wonk?)

  • Clementine vs Marlon while Louis and Violet watch
    IMG

    Ghetsis posted: »

    Good thing too. You know how that Clem vs Marlon confrontation didn't go well with me. Clem puts hand on hips and points finger ''You suck

  • You know, @Ghetsis 's comment draws attention to the fact that the brief struggle with Marlon barely registering is an indication of how eh the story is thus far.

  • And where the fuck was Piccolo during that?

    CapnJay posted: »

    Clementine vs Marlon while Louis and Violet watch

  • I would hope not.
    Also, did you forget a period or whatnot?

    BigLee posted: »

    @DabigRG I agree, there's no one for her to discount her anger if we have Lilly as our archenemy depending on the choices .. or maybe Abel

  • edited September 2018

    Well I guess she could get one such moment, but ONLY if the villain really deserves it. I still want my Clem to always be righteous.

  • Chained to the porch behind Gohan.

    DabigRG posted: »

    And where the fuck was Piccolo during that?

  • Agreed.

    Razer531 posted: »

    Well I guess she could get one such moment, but ONLY if the villain really deserves it. I still want my Clem to always be righteous.

  • Not a chance. I can't imagine Clementine going as far as to beat or kill someone in a brutal fashion.

  • If it involves protecting AJ or avenging him then why the hell not. The scene would need to be very well done though.

    If it's for any other reason, then hell no. It would feel completely out of place. She's not the type of character to do something like that. At least, not for me.

  • How about now?

    RichWalk23 posted: »

    Not a chance. I can't imagine Clementine going as far as to beat or kill someone in a brutal fashion.

  • She internalizes her rage
    " I saw a guy get his face beaten in with a crowbar there wasn't any skin left"
    "Whoa"
    "He deserved it"
    I think if Clementine snapped she'd be more like ssj2 Gohan. Cold, Sadistic, and calculating.

    Findagon posted: »

    If it involves protecting AJ or avenging him then why the hell not. The scene would need to be very well done though. If it's for any oth

  • My Clem is not a vicious killer...that is not to say she would not kill someone who deserved it...but torturing to death...beating to death...my Clem is all about getting it done and moving on. I have defended Clem killing that dick who sold her bad bullets...but the Clem as I played her...no she would not have done that. If AJ was in danger and it boiled down to a fist fight to the death...well of course she would fight to win...and if that person made Clem have to do something nasty to win..I could see Clem being sickened by what she was forced to do...but it makes me wonder if she has not had to do that at the Ranch? Nightmares and all...she may have been forced into such a fight...when your life is on the line...you find out how useful your nails are against eyeballs.

  • I suppose executing the bullet maker in S3 doesn’t count?

  • Executing? I. The sense Marie Antoinette tripped and fell into a guillotine accidentally cutting her Head off? Because Clementine didn't plan that she assumed the bullets were an empty threat.

    I suppose executing the bullet maker in S3 doesn’t count?

  • I'd rather pretend that it didn't happen. ANF never happened, too.

    I suppose executing the bullet maker in S3 doesn’t count?

  • The guy flinched and tried to stab her for pulling the trigger, was there something I missed about clem thinking it wouldn’t work? She went in there looking for blood.

    CapnJay posted: »

    Executing? I. The sense Marie Antoinette tripped and fell into a guillotine accidentally cutting her Head off? Because Clementine didn't plan that she assumed the bullets were an empty threat.

  • CapnJayCapnJay Banned
    edited September 2018

    No she didn't she wanted bullets watch the scene again "Look he's not even concerned he knew they wouldn't work" when the gun fires eatch her shocked expression.

    If blood is your slang term for "a refund of working bullets" the. She did go looking for "blood"

    The guy flinched and tried to stab her for pulling the trigger, was there something I missed about clem thinking it wouldn’t work? She went in there looking for blood.

  • If anyone try anything on AJ, then Clem would surely get to do nasty stuff

  • I’d consider “blood” to be my slang for clem threatening him to make working bullets or else she’d use her shotgun on him...

    CapnJay posted: »

    No she didn't she wanted bullets watch the scene again "Look he's not even concerned he knew they wouldn't work" when the gun fires eatch he

  • My Clem shot Kenny after letting him kill Jane, I thought that was pretty sick.
    But I get what you mean, you're talking about a proper rage moment, yeah would be nice

  • Where did that shotgun go come to think of it.

    I’d consider “blood” to be my slang for clem threatening him to make working bullets or else she’d use her shotgun on him...

  • Conrad pulled a shotgun on her and javier after the deed was done, maybe he loaned it to her in exchange for supplies? I never see clem use a shotgun when she’s around conrad because he’s using one. I could be wrong but I’m sure as hell not replaying S3 to find out.

    CapnJay posted: »

    Where did that shotgun go come to think of it.

  • OMG yes. I thought this was going to be with Marlon. After she backhanded him I thought she was just going to finish beating him but she stopped. I was so ready to keep smashing that X button lol.

  • Fuck yeah, lemme have Clem kill some motherfuckers already!

  • No, because
    a. It was discount-discount-discount Star Wars.
    b. she wasn't playable.
    c. that bafflingly OOC, forced, and stupid.
    d.That was one of the worst scenes in the whole game.

    I suppose executing the bullet maker in S3 doesn’t count?

  • edited September 2018

    And even if she did think that, why the fuck was she pointing a supposedly useless gun at a guy who could potentially outmuscle her(if Javier wasn't quick enough or even there), stab her(if Javier didn't take his [only] knife), shoot her with a properly loaded gun of his own, or call Conrad/Tripp?

    Conrad pulled a shotgun on her and javier after the deed was done, maybe he loaned it to her in exchange for supplies? I never see clem use a shotgun when she’s around conrad because he’s using one. I could be wrong but I’m sure as hell not replaying S3 to find out.

    Huh, interesting.
    I sorta doubt that's it, but that would be rather patron-like of him considering her apparent history.

    The guy flinched and tried to stab her for pulling the trigger, was there something I missed about clem thinking it wouldn’t work? She went in there looking for blood.

  • Maybe what she did at the ranch will meet your expectations

  • So your not onboard with the Clementine got assaulted at the ranch theory?

    Maybe what she did at the ranch will meet your expectations

  • Stealing Disco Broccoli and a cooking magazine is about as hardcore as it can get

    Maybe what she did at the ranch will meet your expectations

  • edited September 2018

    Well Clementine had her moments aswell, not exactly the same you mentioned but she displayed some brutal manners (some of them are determinant).
    For example when she stayed enjoying Carver's face getting destroyed by Kenny, or when she slaps Walter after he didn't help Nick, or also when she shot Eli in the head in Prescott (even though she didn't mean to kill him), or also when she convinced Javier to stay with her killing some Badger's men after Mariana's death.

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