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I've mentioned this before in a thread I made but I will say it again. There is a difference between enjoying a game and forming your opinio… moren by looking objectively at the game. If I look at ANF, I would give it a 7/10 for the enjoying factor, but a 4/10 If I try to look at the story and characters in a more analyzing way - (With questions like these: What are the problems with the story and the characters?)
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Yes, it's one of the worst games ever existed. It's the Resident Evil 6 version of The Walking Dead. There is a difference between enjoying a game and having a positive opinion on it. I enjoyed watching Suicide Squad but I wouldn't say it was a good movie, the new Venom movie might be the same.
There are tons of reasons why I hate this game to death but I'll make it shortly:
The lies. Kevin Bruner and Job Stauffer, the former CEO and the former employee, told us a lot of content that weren't in the final game. Bruner said Episode 1 was split in 2 parts because it was too big (Both parts combined never lasted more than a Season 1 episode length, even Season 2's), there are 42 versions of Clementine present in the game (That is complete bullshit because Clementine is the same person no matter what you did in Season 2) and Clementine was on revenge quest (And she avenged nobody). Job said after E3 2016 that this was going to be Javier AND Clementine's Story but months later, he said this was Javier's story and it was going to be the biggest game they have made so far (Doesn't even last longer than a previous Telltale game).
Newcomers. Just whyyyyy??? Why not just suggest them to play the first seasons? You can easily tell that a lot of people who bought this game are old players. This makes it less like a continuation of Clementine's story. SHE HAD NO PURPOSE AT ALL, other being a old player bait.
Clementine. Why is she NOT the main character? Why are we playing as someone we never met before? If you were going to bring newcomers, then why even bother putting Clementine in the game? The story would have been the same without her.
The characters. I couldn't give too shits about anyone in this game because they don't talk much about themselves and their motivations are so fucking confusing. Tripp leaves his community to die and goes with people he just met yesterday, Conrad acts like an angel despite his anger issues in Episode 2 if you save him, Kate wants to go for Javi's dick and betray his husband despite the fact that he is one who fixed her gunshot wound, Gabe rats me about killing Conrad even if he was the one who told me to shoot him and Badger killed Javier's niece and destroys Prescott because why again?
Lack of storytelling. Instead of developing the story and characters, this game focuses more on QTE action sequences in a STORY-DRIVEN game.
Short episodes. What did they mean by "Biggest season so far" again?
Forced romances. How am I supposed to care for this nonsense if you're making me focus on QTEs rather than talking to characters? Kate's stupid wish for Javier caused David to try to murder his brother and Clementine cries to a shitbird she just met like 3 days ago?
Kenny and Jane. Are you fucking serious by saying we should move on from that? We waited 2 years just for this bullshit? I seriously don't know what you want. Kenny, the main character from the previous seasons, dies in a car crash and Jane commits suicide over pregnancy, she just gave up very easily.
I'm sorry but other than Javier and Clementine, THERE IS NOTHING GOOD ABOUT THIS PIECE OF SHIT. It was a mistake and it should have been cancelled instead of Season 3. I will never touch this garbage ever again in my life.
Yes, it's one of the worst games ever existed. It's the Resident Evil 6 version of The Walking Dead. There is a difference between enjoying … morea game and having a positive opinion on it. I enjoyed watching Suicide Squad but I wouldn't say it was a good movie, the new Venom movie might be the same.
There are tons of reasons why I hate this game to death but I'll make it shortly:
* The lies. Kevin Bruner and Job Stauffer, the former CEO and the former employee, told us a lot of content that weren't in the final game. Bruner said Episode 1 was split in 2 parts because it was too big (Both parts combined never lasted more than a Season 1 episode length, even Season 2's), there are 42 versions of Clementine present in the game (That is complete bullshit because Clementine is the same person no matter what you did in Season 2) and Clementine was on revenge quest (And she avenged nobody). Job said after E3 2016 that this was going to be Javier AN… [view original content]
ANF wasn't so bad to me, but was kinda "off topic" compared to the other 2 seasons. Story didn't advance at all and Clementine was a secondary character, ANF was like a spin-off like Michonne with different protagonists that we will never see again most likely.
ANF wasn't so bad to me, but was kinda "off topic" compared to the other 2 seasons. Story didn't advance at all and Clementine was a seconda… morery character, ANF was like a spin-off like Michonne with different protagonists that we will never see again most likely.
Just adding on to the lies part, the game had 'Season 3' in the title for pre-orders then it was removed on launch day (presumably to fool everyone who wanted an actual continuation of Clementine's story because that's how they marketed the game pre-release). The Steam files still say '(Season 3)' and they set the name on Google Play to display Season 3 instead of A New Frontier. (These images are from back when ANF episode 3 launched, they have since changed the name on Google Play but the Steam files still have '(Season 3)' in them.) Another lie: they also said no character would take the backseat but... we know what happened.
Yes, it's one of the worst games ever existed. It's the Resident Evil 6 version of The Walking Dead. There is a difference between enjoying … morea game and having a positive opinion on it. I enjoyed watching Suicide Squad but I wouldn't say it was a good movie, the new Venom movie might be the same.
There are tons of reasons why I hate this game to death but I'll make it shortly:
* The lies. Kevin Bruner and Job Stauffer, the former CEO and the former employee, told us a lot of content that weren't in the final game. Bruner said Episode 1 was split in 2 parts because it was too big (Both parts combined never lasted more than a Season 1 episode length, even Season 2's), there are 42 versions of Clementine present in the game (That is complete bullshit because Clementine is the same person no matter what you did in Season 2) and Clementine was on revenge quest (And she avenged nobody). Job said after E3 2016 that this was going to be Javier AN… [view original content]
I already told you on the other thread about unpopular opinions. Unlikable/Underveloped characters, things that don't make sense in the plot, slow pacing...
That's the thing though. Lots of focus was put into ANF and instead they could've made ANF a mini-series like Michonne, but they never should've made Michonne to account for that. I'd much rather prefer that.
No. I liked most of it for what it was despite it being the worst season in the series. If it was just a spin-off game and didn't feature Clementine, I don't think the backlash would've been as bad.
No. I liked most of it for what it was despite it being the worst season in the series. If it was just a spin-off game and didn't feature Clementine, I don't think the backlash would've been as bad.
If this game was a game like michonne meaning clementine didn't have to do anything with it the game wouldn't have had the bad reputation it gotten and maybe more people would've liked it more...and don't let me start at the Kenny/Jane bullshit that has been discussed till death.
I wouldn’t be able to tell you, because I’ve never even touched ANF. Apart from watching the Kenny, Jane, and Wellington flashbacks, and a few other clips, I’ve never cared for Javier or his story. I just wasn’t interested. I guess that might be a reason why people didn’t like it either? I really just wanted to know what happened to Clementine if I’m being honest. If you asked me to play it today, I still wouldn’t. And it’s not because of what people say about it, I just don’t care for anyone else’s story when the series is about Clementine. Maybe that’s why it gets the shit that it does.
I enjoyed it. The only aspects I really disliked about the game was that it had to much focus on action and the fact that some characters are not very wel written. (Also the flashbacks) But I can't deny that I always looked forward to a new episode. When I finished the game I was like: Yea, this game totally isn't the best story Telltale delivered, but I enjoyed it, so it was worth my time.
I agree, flashbacks were really bad, how they killed Kenny or Jane was so stupid and lazy I had to pause the game for like 5 minutes to swallow that bitter pill.
They basically killed a main character for 2 seasons in like 2 minutes with a stinky flashback.
I enjoyed it. The only aspects I really disliked about the game was that it had to much focus on action and the fact that some characters ar… moree not very wel written. (Also the flashbacks) But I can't deny that I always looked forward to a new episode. When I finished the game I was like: Yea, this game totally isn't the best story Telltale delivered, but I enjoyed it, so it was worth my time.
I agree, flashbacks were really bad, how they killed Kenny or Jane was so stupid and lazy I had to pause the game for like 5 minutes to swal… morelow that bitter pill.
They basically killed a main character for 2 seasons in like 2 minutes with a stinky flashback.
If the game was separate from season 1 and 2 then the game would be ok. But because Clementine is in the game and they disrespected the fans with the complete bullshit handling of the season 2 endings is what makes ANF so hated.
I don't think it deserves the mantle of, "The Worst Game in History," but it is easily my least favorite Telltale game and I can see how it caused a large portion of the fan base to lose faith in Telltale.
And that's about it when it comes to the Wellington ending... Even Kenny and Jane endings, while being terribly handled, got another flashback and were mentioned by Clem at least...
It was a horrible season. Poorly handled characters that were already cliches, with the majority of them getting no development or sudden 180s to finish their arcs. Questionable pacing, where the first two games spent time with the characters before building up to an endgame, ANF seemed to want to just jump into it immediately at the expense of fleshing out any of the characters. They also decided to make it the most onrails experience by far, translating peoples complaints about the lack of hubs in S2 to mean they wanted even fewer, all featuring much less interactions with the characters in favor of delivering a (QTE) action game that's constantly jumping from set piece to set piece.
Was it the worst game ever made? No, just like The Phantom Menace wasn't the worst movie ever made. TPMs production values and star power obliterates plenty of movies that have come before and after it, and none of that makes it less of a colossal disappointment full of questionable decisions made from its inception to its completion.
Yes, it's one of the worst games ever existed. It's the Resident Evil 6 version of The Walking Dead. There is a difference between enjoying … morea game and having a positive opinion on it. I enjoyed watching Suicide Squad but I wouldn't say it was a good movie, the new Venom movie might be the same.
There are tons of reasons why I hate this game to death but I'll make it shortly:
* The lies. Kevin Bruner and Job Stauffer, the former CEO and the former employee, told us a lot of content that weren't in the final game. Bruner said Episode 1 was split in 2 parts because it was too big (Both parts combined never lasted more than a Season 1 episode length, even Season 2's), there are 42 versions of Clementine present in the game (That is complete bullshit because Clementine is the same person no matter what you did in Season 2) and Clementine was on revenge quest (And she avenged nobody). Job said after E3 2016 that this was going to be Javier AN… [view original content]
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I don't know. I mean, my comment isn't even half the length as @Nikolaj-11's comment, but his was posted.
According to Jennifer, something in my comment (I don't know what) triggered some sort of spam detector thing. I apparently used a word that makes the comment need approval. First off, I just want to mention that there is nothing inappropriate about what I was trying to say, I was just trying to go into detail about the chaotic development of ANF and how it was the culmination of everything that was wrong with Telltale in the last couple of years. Apparently, there's something in there that's a big no-no.
There was apparently a word in the post that got caught in the spam filter (I'm not sure what word it was), but I manually approved the comment, so it's now visible in the thread. If anyone ever gets a comment that they need approval for a post, just let myself or another active mod know, since it likely got caught in the spam filter, and we'll be able to manually approve it.
I must thank all you guys, because you help me to analyze the game deeper.
I liked the experience, but it had its problems, that's right.
It's true that characters are more weak and the "replayability" is lower.
I think those problems are related with Telltale problems....
maybe something related with my bad english language, LOL
The word was probably either "dick" or "Kevin Bruner".
Or not....
Yes, it's one of the worst games ever existed. It's the Resident Evil 6 version of The Walking Dead. There is a difference between enjoying a game and having a positive opinion on it. I enjoyed watching Suicide Squad but I wouldn't say it was a good movie, the new Venom movie might be the same.
There are tons of reasons why I hate this game to death but I'll make it shortly:
I'm sorry but other than Javier and Clementine, THERE IS NOTHING GOOD ABOUT THIS PIECE OF SHIT. It was a mistake and it should have been cancelled instead of Season 3. I will never touch this garbage ever again in my life.
Damn
Bigger mess? HOW!!!???
didnt like the story and also didnt like the chars
I really wish they would’ve stick with the original script web ANF then the story plot they have for the game .
ANF wasn't so bad to me, but was kinda "off topic" compared to the other 2 seasons. Story didn't advance at all and Clementine was a secondary character, ANF was like a spin-off like Michonne with different protagonists that we will never see again most likely.
yes, for sure it feels like a sort of "spin-off"
Just adding on to the lies part, the game had 'Season 3' in the title for pre-orders then it was removed on launch day (presumably to fool everyone who wanted an actual continuation of Clementine's story because that's how they marketed the game pre-release). The Steam files still say '(Season 3)' and they set the name on Google Play to display Season 3 instead of A New Frontier. (These images are from back when ANF episode 3 launched, they have since changed the name on Google Play but the Steam files still have '(Season 3)' in them.) Another lie: they also said no character would take the backseat but... we know what happened.
I already told you on the other thread about unpopular opinions. Unlikable/Underveloped characters, things that don't make sense in the plot, slow pacing...
That's the thing though. Lots of focus was put into ANF and instead they could've made ANF a mini-series like Michonne, but they never should've made Michonne to account for that. I'd much rather prefer that.
Maybe it was me using "and it all came to a head at this time."
Nope, that's not it either.
No. I liked most of it for what it was despite it being the worst season in the series. If it was just a spin-off game and didn't feature Clementine, I don't think the backlash would've been as bad.
I think it would have been worse. A lot of people were ready to abandon the series in the beleif that it did not feature Clementine.
@MetallicaRules are you okay
Goddamn.
Requesting cleanup. @Blind Sniper @Deltino @Jennifer
That was me cleaning some stuff up behind the scenes and the duplicate posts are already deleted so don't worry, it's all good.
Ah okay.
If this game was a game like michonne meaning clementine didn't have to do anything with it the game wouldn't have had the bad reputation it gotten and maybe more people would've liked it more...and don't let me start at the Kenny/Jane bullshit that has been discussed till death.
One thing ANF had was a ending.
I wouldn’t be able to tell you, because I’ve never even touched ANF. Apart from watching the Kenny, Jane, and Wellington flashbacks, and a few other clips, I’ve never cared for Javier or his story. I just wasn’t interested. I guess that might be a reason why people didn’t like it either? I really just wanted to know what happened to Clementine if I’m being honest. If you asked me to play it today, I still wouldn’t. And it’s not because of what people say about it, I just don’t care for anyone else’s story when the series is about Clementine. Maybe that’s why it gets the shit that it does.
I enjoyed it. The only aspects I really disliked about the game was that it had to much focus on action and the fact that some characters are not very wel written. (Also the flashbacks) But I can't deny that I always looked forward to a new episode. When I finished the game I was like: Yea, this game totally isn't the best story Telltale delivered, but I enjoyed it, so it was worth my time.
I agree, flashbacks were really bad, how they killed Kenny or Jane was so stupid and lazy I had to pause the game for like 5 minutes to swallow that bitter pill.
They basically killed a main character for 2 seasons in like 2 minutes with a stinky flashback.
Yea same. I think the alone flashback is the best of the 4. Still bad but atleast you don't have to deal with shitty deaths and character models
They even killed off poor Edith, in season 3.
If the game was separate from season 1 and 2 then the game would be ok. But because Clementine is in the game and they disrespected the fans with the complete bullshit handling of the season 2 endings is what makes ANF so hated.
I don't think it deserves the mantle of, "The Worst Game in History," but it is easily my least favorite Telltale game and I can see how it caused a large portion of the fan base to lose faith in Telltale.
And that's about it when it comes to the Wellington ending... Even Kenny and Jane endings, while being terribly handled, got another flashback and were mentioned by Clem at least...
It's a good season. Gamers are drama queens, and there's a whole industry of monetizing anger on Youtube that stokes the drama.
It was a horrible season. Poorly handled characters that were already cliches, with the majority of them getting no development or sudden 180s to finish their arcs. Questionable pacing, where the first two games spent time with the characters before building up to an endgame, ANF seemed to want to just jump into it immediately at the expense of fleshing out any of the characters. They also decided to make it the most onrails experience by far, translating peoples complaints about the lack of hubs in S2 to mean they wanted even fewer, all featuring much less interactions with the characters in favor of delivering a (QTE) action game that's constantly jumping from set piece to set piece.
Was it the worst game ever made? No, just like The Phantom Menace wasn't the worst movie ever made. TPMs production values and star power obliterates plenty of movies that have come before and after it, and none of that makes it less of a colossal disappointment full of questionable decisions made from its inception to its completion.
One of these days... I’m gonna make u play it again ??
Don't worry, dude. You're not alone. I enjoyed ANF more than S2. It had some great characters imho.
It's bad enough that I sometimes like to pretend it doesn't exist.
Dunno if it was bad but it sure was boring. Clem was the only interesting thing about it. Literally the only reason I played it.