Am I the only who reckons Kenny’s tuff
He’s been shot in the gut by Andy , can actually put his own son down , doesn’t commit suicide and continues fighting even after somewhow escaping the walkers saving christa / trying to save Ben , he regains his sanity between s1 and s2 , eye bashed in , stomach slashed by Jane and somehow no matter what you do he regains his humanity again cause if you kill him and Jane he’ll agree cause he saw what he became , he believes it was the right decision to shoot him and if you abandon him at the rest stop he’ll agree as well not seeing himself as being able to look after them and even if you stay with him he regains some of his sanity as he selflessly try’s to get yous to go into Wellington where either if you leave with him he’ll look after you and protect clem but also been the most positive influence on her compared to being alone and Jane and even in his determinant death in s3 he allows himself to be eaten so clem and aj can live or if you stay in Wellington he’ll tearfully say goodbye and continue on to find a new purpose to which I find astonishing like I know of people believe he’ll kill himself if you left him I highly doubt that he doesn’t role that way ,Kenny can be a psycho but he’s like negan he may depressed about the death of his wife Lucille and katjaa but they don’t end it,they keep finding purpose no matter what and I find that awesome
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He claims to be against suicide, but walking around the apocalypse pissing off everybody you come across seems pretty suicidal to me.
Heh heh, and he fails to lift up Lee like 3 times. Molly can easily do it.
In terms of determination? Maybe.
From a physical standpoint? NyOPE!
He only fought women and teenage boys. hes not tough
Yeah, "fought" teenage boys.
Kenny seems like the guy who is morally opposed to suicide. He's never going to directly take his own life... but willingly throwing himself into dangerous situations with the slightest hope that something or somebody will kill him in the process? Now that's something I can definitely see Kenny doing. And that's the vibe I got from him in the back half of S2 after he lost Sarita especially. He can't bring himself to end it, but he's wiling to throw himself at a group of bandits or zombies in the hopes that they'll finally kill him, give him some kind of peace.
The man literally watched his wife commit suicide in front of him after putting his own son down old yeller style. The man got his eye punched in by Carver until his orbital bone and temple mixed into a bloody paste and he was blind in one eye. His one and only hope was robbed after he was brutally jumped by like 6 people and robbed. He then watched his second replacement wife get killed. And still stood through the fucking elements to find Clem a new home. Without Kenny, Clementine is a ghost. She'd had lived a horrible, miserable life being watched over by incompetent guardians like Christa. And Jane had the nerve to commit suicide after Kenny didn't even do that, he stood and didn't complain. He put the group first. Kenny is the toughest son of a bitch to ever exist in TWD and that's saying a whole lot. The emotional and physical abuse this man has gone through is not fathomable with our regular day minds.
Anyone who is able to control Clem to side with Jane and at the end say "Kenny was a monster" after all he did for her. Is a special, rare kind of evil. Heart black and sour.
Way to completely snub the efforts of someone who actually stuck with her for an extended period in spite of the greater strain to themselves.
Truly makes your side seem all the more sound. ?
I never thought Kenny came off as particularly tough in season 1, but what's funny is there's optional dialogue from Omid where he says "Kenny is a beast."
So somebody thought he was. Was that how he was meant to be written? Who knows.
What about the others doing the same to him? Just because he openly expressed pissing others off doesn’t mean they didn’t either (which they definitely did). Kenny was just more vocal about it
Molly wasn’t shot in the gut though
Yes damn right! Anyone who thinks that are evil and i truly despise them for viewing someone like that whether it is a real person or fictional character. They show the exact type of people they are who are obviously beyond the extremes of sensitivity, who probably get offended if someone coughed or sneezed accidentally around them!!
To hate someone so much for a few mistakes he made or bad things he needed to do or gave you an abusive insult here and there is truly pathetic when deep down they know he has a good heart but just a flawed man with realistic human traits and they hold grudges against him even worse than the character himself!!
What he said was completely true though no matter how much anyone hates Kenny that is how it was in the game and how he was portrayed. I think anyone who 100% sided with Jane and calls him a monster is a sick and disturbed individual. I am sorry if that offends anyone but that’s how i feel. Those sorts of people forget or ignore those good facts about Kenny all because they hold an even worse grudge against him because at one time or another he hurt their feelings and have stupidly never got over it!
Those are the sorts of people i really do not like. A one dimensional view of thinking.
I wasn't talking about Pane.
Truth be told I can see the positives and negatives of both Jane and Kenny , Jane did care about clem as did Kenny but Jane cared about self reliance too much while Kenny cared about clem and the safety of everyone too much as he was obsessive but he did care about the right thing and the greater good but Jane didn’t really care about the greater good but just about surviving through each day
Well, considering that was Omid...
I don't HATE Kenny, or think he's evil, but I wouldn't call him a saint either. He's a broken man trying to do the right things in the wrong way. He's way better than that selfish bitch Jane and he's Jesus compared to Lilly, but he still makes mistakes and he still annoys me at some points, which all humans do. He's okay in my books, just not my first choice to when it comes to people I want with me in an apocalypse.
But Omid's a fuckin' scrapper...
Look at all the times he fought in season 1, like in the trailer for "Long Road Ahead" and... nowhere else. Wait.
I was more referring to how short and blase he is, but yeah.
Kenny is a weak man...physically strong but weak. His idea of discussion is yelling and calling someone a name when he does not get his way. He lets his anger get the better of him and he is petty when it comes to getting revenge.
His treatment of Arvo tore the group apart. There was a post about how long people would survive if they had gotten a boat...to that I say...how long before Kenny stopped listening to anyone and just sailed the ship in an aimless direction wasting fuel because he would keep second guessing the safety of locations.
he wasn't even physically strong. when he wasn't beating on a tied up arvo, he was getting his ass kicked by larry, lee, or carver. the only fight you can kinda say he won was against jane. i think even molly disarmed him in s1. he was an all around weak and unstable person who shouldn't have lasted as long as he did.
Well he was weak in s1 but he improved drastically in s2 he could keep mike against the window even though mike was apparently very strong , he knocks carver to the ground with 1 punch , he beat jane even though she sliced his stomach with a knife
It's just amusing to think Omid actually had a high opinion of Kenny. Everyone else looks down on him.
S2 Kenny lost everything and had so much shit on his plate. He didn't take the cowards way out like Katja or Jane. He was actually a very level headed man. Courageous as all hell. And even in S2. He was easily talked down. And Arvo? Arvo was a KGB piece of shit. He deserved to get whooped a bit. Only Jane thinks Kenny is hitler for beating him up. Sure he got carried away but the man had everything taken from him and he was trying to protect his friends.
Got beat up by Larry when defending his son or Lee
Got beat up by Carver so Clementine wouldn't take said beating
My Lee would never punch Kenny. That man is his brother from another mother. Shame on those who beat up Kenny in such a fragile state on that train. The man needed sympathy.
You also forget he dropped Carver with a single punch when Carver wasn't sucker punching him with a weapon with armed guards protecting him.
You forget he killed Jane and Jane is pretty skillful in hand to hand combat AND Kenny was wounded at the time.
But with all that said... nobody is claiming him to be toughest fighting wise anyway, but he is by far the toughest mentally. That's where the boat god shines. He's hard as fucking nails. Never wavered from loving the group and protecting Clem. Above all else he stood. And when he wasn't being sucker punched by people way bigger than him he was kicking ass, defending the group and making wise and crucial decisions that helped keep Clem alive.
Which is honestly part of why that bothered me initially.
He was lucky enough to not have to deal with his usual mode.
Though it is worth noting that Kenny was willing to show him how to run the train.
Except Ben.
Fixed.
Dude, literally [determinately] everyone else was taken aback by the last time he did so.
Even Bonnie, who actually doesn't take either stance if he knocked the boy out at the powerplant, is pretty directly caustic towards him about it.
Clementine didn’t look down on him either and neither does Lee determinately.
Ha well i am glad he lasted as long as he did to ruin your experience of this series. Kenny will always be the best character alongside Lee!
You’d do no better. All you would do if you were in that group is pick at his faults and escalate the argument further because neither of you would shut up lol.
Kenny is strong all around and certain people hate to admit that because they don’t like him. No one would have coped with half the shit he went through and i am not just talking about his family dying. I could list a ton of stuff that made him stronger than everyone else. He showed weak moments in Season 1 but got stronger as time went on as he adapted to the apocalypse
Yes! Exactly this. Everyone wants to look down at the boat god but almost anyone would crumble in his shoes. Kenny was mentally and physically stronger than almost anyone in the series I can think of. Lee was hardcore too towards the end of S1. Literally cut his own arm off and still jumped for the clock tower bell. Still did most of the heavy shit. Even still managed to fight off the stranger with one arm. That's hardcore.
But at least we finally agreed on something lol.
Lol anything positive about Kenny we will always agree on trust me!
I'm sorry...but the poor Kenny bullshit does not fly...everyone is in the apocalypse and suffering.
That's why I can't like Kenny. He thinks that he can get away with things just because he's "broken". Everyone in the apocalypse suffered, so why should Kenny be the special snowflake and get away with beating up a tied up kid just because of a few, insulting words, like Kenny didn't use "commie" as an insult for the entire episode. Christa lost her husband and child but she didn't beat Clem into a pulp, did she now? Also, Kenny is the most petty guy I know. If you disagree with him on ONE thing, he abandons you, leaves you to die and is simply a complete ass to you. I've had playthroughs where the only thing I did against Kenny's opinion was shooting the screaming girl in episode 3 in Macon and since then, he kept saying "Oh you weren't there for me and my family Lee!!!". I don't hate Kenny, he just gets on my nerves a little more often than I like. He's better than Jane and Lilly, that's for sure.
Some suffered more than others. Fact is, what i said is still 100% true relating to this particular Telltale’s Walking Dead character like it or not...maybe Clem on the same level as well. Every other character had a stroll in the park in comparison as far as I’m concerned.
Kenny was always a tough character to me, the same goes for Lee.
Um no. Kenny has never ever asked for sympathy relating to what’s happened to him nor thinks he can get away with things for being broken. Tell me when he has ever used that to his advantage or to gain sympathy? He hasn’t. He has never wanted anyone to feel sorry for him. He’s too full of pride for that.
Again he has never asked for extra attention/sympathy, why do you make it sound like that’s the case? People still fail to understand the reasons behind the entire Arvo treatment. They think because he’s a kid that he should be treated oh so nicely and everyone kiss his ass. Why the fuck? This kid was involved in helping his Russian pals ambush the group to rob and kill them and you wonder why Kenny verbally insults him (commie) and physically treats him the way he does?? Tied up or not, Arvo was a piece of shit and still posed a threat to the group and he later proves that when he shoots Clem. If someone was involved with people trying to kill you i’d say you’d have a good reason to be pissed off and wary of someone like that and that is why Kenny put him in his place. What is stupidly unrealistic in that episode is how everyone else especially Bonnie and Mike start treating Arvo like he was their new best friend. You would not in a million years be like that with someone who was involved with people who tried to rob and kill you. That is why Kenny was the only sensible one about Arvo and turned out he was right all along.
You’re actually comparing Christa and Clem to Kenny and Arvo?? Really?? First of all i must refer you to what i said before about Arvo. Clem didn’t help plot to kill Christa, Omid or their baby did she? Arvo on the other hand did with his Russian pals towards Clem and her group which as i said was the main reason behind Kenny’s hostile treatment of Arvo. Also Christa wouldn’t have hurt Clem the way Kenny did with Arvo because she cared about her and looked after her for over 2 years don’t forget. Arvo was a stranger and a threat it’s as simple as that. If roles were reversed perhaps Christa may not have verbally or physically abused Arvo in the same manner Kenny did but we all saw how she reacted when Omid got shot so we know she has a mean streak so who knows? Maybe she would have just shot him and saved all of Episode 5’s stupid drama.
In a zombie apocalypse everyone should have each other’s backs. He saved Lee’s life in the drugstore after Larry punched him so if Lee didn’t have his back when it mattered most such as in the meat locker i can’t blame Kenny for being pissed. That would break my trust in someone. He doesn’t technically leave you to die either, he hesitated saving you from Danny in ep2 and he thinks about leaving Lee in episode 3 but doesn’t. Sure you can say that it is just as bad but it could have been deemed worse like Lilly stealing the RV for example or Molly abandoning Lee, Kenny and Clem when the walkers show up on River Street. Now that’s what you call leaving people to potentially die!
Also in one of my play throughs i believe i did the same as you in shooting the girl in the street and was the only thing I disagreed with him on and he still went with me in episode 4 so i think you’ll find you must have done something else for him to say you weren’t there for him. It works on a point system on how his and Lee’s relationship is during the game. Maybe you didn’t drop Ben or something? But i can assure you if the only thing you disagreed on was the girl in the street, then he would definitely still go with you in ep4.
Well i can’t argue with you there. Fuck Jane and fuck Lilly!!!
We don't even know what clementine thinks of kenny in season 1.
In season 1 he neglects his wife, stops talking to her. Then he ignores his son being bitten, leaving his wife to deal with it all on her own.
If Katjaa had felt she still had a partner in Kenny she probably wouldn't have killed herself.
Then in season 2, as soon as the going gets tough, he starts treating Sarita the same way.
Yeah, he's a real strong family man...
Actions speak louder than words you know, we didn’t see or hear any moments where Clem appeared to look down on him but i think drawing a picture of him and his family and keeping it for over 2 years indicates enough from a child’s perspective that she cares very much about him. There is no reason why she wouldn’t either given the fact she had known him for 3 months and was close to his son and she thought highly of Katjaa. The player effectively chooses how they feel about Kenny by the time Seaaon 2 rolls around anyway.
Oh really? What game have you been playing? Kenny is out hunting for food for his family and the group in Episode 2, pokes around the dairy farm to make sure it’s safe, steals the Stranger’s food from the wagon for his wife, kid and group and then again in episode 3 gathering pharmacy supplies with Lee. He doesn’t neglect her at all.
He doesn’t. He is seen talking to her numerous times. He sits and discusses with her in episode 3 that they should all carry guns for safety. There are other times as well.
People deal with grief in different ways. He was in denial it’s as simple as that and if you knew your son was going to die it would be very hard for you to deal with too. If you honestly think she killed herself because of Kenny then sorry but you’re very naive. Kenny is right there with her to deal with Duck after he stops the train, they determinately walk to the back of the forest together. Katjaa couldn’t bear to put her son down or see Kenny do it so she kills herself right in front of both Ken and Duck.
Honestly, i hope you’re joking here because if not, then this is just the sort of thing a typical Kenny hater would say, pushing all the blame onto him when the fact is that it’s bullshit that Kat’s suicide was his fault.
He doesn’t treat Sarita the same way at all, what are you talking about? Another dig at him is it?
You’d have to be strong not to completely give up after losing your family, determinant best friend Lee, the boat, taken prisoner to do forced labour, getting your eye bashed in, Sarita dying, then having to deal with helping a woman give birth and freezing in the cold followed by all that shit with Jane. Yeah i’d say Kenny is pretty strong on that evidence where most people would have took the easy way out like Jane and Katjaa did