Thats not really saying much when literally all Telltales Walking Dead villains have been super underdeveloped and poorly written, even if what you said was true.
Abel should have been the leader of this Delta Squadron. After he dies in Episode 3, tensions rise and Lily is forced to choose which family she belongs to. Darn, this sounds like ANF. We should have at least gotten a moment where Lily and Clem are overseeing the seas, standing on the top deck. Like the S2Ep3 Next Time with Carver.
Abel should have been the leader of this Delta Squadron. After he dies in Episode 3, tensions rise and Lily is forced to choose which family… more she belongs to. Darn, this sounds like ANF. We should have at least gotten a moment where Lily and Clem are overseeing the seas, standing on the top deck. Like the S2Ep3 Next Time with Carver.
How? We act like Season 1 Lilly was mother teresa, she was always an authoritarian cunt. She left children to die and stole the RV, murder… moreed someone because they called her a little girl, little fragile bitch that she is. She's evil. This season only reestablishes what we all already knew about good ol Lillith. her sympathizers cant come to grips.
lets not forget it was Carley blackmailing Lee to tell the motel inn group of his past and if he wouldn't , she would.
Lilly didn't care, as she knew Lee was genuine
Okay, I saw this and was just to lazy to comment:
it wasn't her blackmailing him so much as initially giving fair warning that should his place amongst the group prove to be a problem, she won't be inclined to keep it a secret any longer. Once a good amount of time has passed and the tensions between Kenny & Lily are undeniably high, she encourages him to do the telling himself since the group trusts him a lot more.
Lily didn't know anything about his past until Larry alluded to it at some point before the night at the Dairy. If Lee takes Carley's advice and shares his past with Lily, she responds one of two ways: if you have a positive/negative relationship with her, she either realizes that must be what Larry was talking about and considers it unimportant or simply states that she put it together herself after things started getting heated.
lets not forget it was Carley blackmailing Lee to tell the motel inn group of his past and if he wouldn't , she would.
Lilly didn't care, as she knew Lee was genuine
Well i think you do have a point, They had a potential for her but just 4 scenes. At least i got to kill her for what she did but i shouldn't blame them since telltale shut down but still, Wasted potential.
Are we equating Carly pushing Lee to be honest with himself and release his inner demons to promote honesty and confidence within his leadership role to Lilly murdering multiple people, abandoning and torturing children and cutting Louis's tongue out? I'm just asking.....
Letting it out made your relationship way stronger with everyone. When Lilly goes to rat you out to Kenny at the RV. Did you forget that? Or selective memory? After she off's Carly, everyone calls her a murderer. Than she wants to victim blame and pull Lee's past. And Kenny says "I don't give a fuck" pretty much. It was so rewarding because Carly pushed you to be honest.
lets not forget it was Carley blackmailing Lee to tell the motel inn group of his past and if he wouldn't , she would.
Lilly didn't care, as she knew Lee was genuine
Yeah she's better than Badger but that wasn't hard to do.
Lilly has a backstory that was known and shared by the players
Who cares ? Her backstory ? She barely talks about it,we can barely talk about it and when we can our options are so limited that it doesn't matter we can't even talk about Kenny jesus it's fucking stupid.
and she's determinant so her story isn't even done yet
Who cares ? They already ruined her there's nothing more to do with her,she killed James,we're gonna fight her and then she'll die in 5 minutes in the next episode.
Weaker than Carver, who was in only two episodes and changed personalities in between them?
Weaker than Badger, basically some random goo… moren who was in like 2 brief scenes total before you kill him?
Weaker than Joan, who was cartoonishly evil/stupid and almost universally loathed by the fanbase and can also escape any kind of justice/closure whatsoever?
Give me a break and just think about what you're saying lol. Lilly has a backstory that was known and shared by the players, an good descent into villainry arc, and she's determinant so her story isn't even done yet... this is better than pretty much every Walking Dead villain ever except the stranger who was exceptionally well done.
She doesn't need to talk about her backstory constantly... we already saw it go down in s1. She's basically the only villain that we actually see most of their backstory.
Who cares that Lilly's story isn't done yet? Probably the 60% or so of players who still have her alive in her playthrough? It's hard to take what you say seriously when you're so negative about the whole thing.
Yeah she's better than Badger but that wasn't hard to do.
Lilly has a backstory that was known and shared by the players
Who c… moreares ? Her backstory ? She barely talks about it,we can barely talk about it and when we can our options are so limited that it doesn't matter we can't even talk about Kenny jesus it's fucking stupid.
and she's determinant so her story isn't even done yet
Who cares ? They already ruined her there's nothing more to do with her,she killed James,we're gonna fight her and then she'll die in 5 minutes in the next episode.
You realize that argument shoots itself in the foot, right?
Weaker than Joan, who was cartoonishly evil/stupid and almost universally loathed by the fanbase and can also escape any kind of justice/closure whatsoever?
Wait, so Carver changed personalities...but Joan didn't
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Weaker than Carver, who was in only two episodes and changed personalities in between them?
Weaker than Badger, basically some random goo… moren who was in like 2 brief scenes total before you kill him?
Weaker than Joan, who was cartoonishly evil/stupid and almost universally loathed by the fanbase and can also escape any kind of justice/closure whatsoever?
Give me a break and just think about what you're saying lol. Lilly has a backstory that was known and shared by the players, an good descent into villainry arc, and she's determinant so her story isn't even done yet... this is better than pretty much every Walking Dead villain ever except the stranger who was exceptionally well done.
Well i think you do have a point, They had a potential for her but just 4 scenes. At least i got to kill her for what she did but i shouldn't blame them since telltale shut down but still, Wasted potential.
Lilly's character in Season 1 is not her backstory for the Final Season. We already knew Lilly then, but its been 7 years in this world now and she is now in a completely different group and position and we learn nothing about how that happened. No one is asking for Lilly to do some big speech about her past, but good story telling would give small hints for the player to start to put together what happened from Season 1 to now. They give nothing because the "backstory" we do have to her is irrelevant to what she is doing now. We want to know something for how she got to where she is now but they dont give it to us, instead we just go to "left behind and then 7 years later I kill kids."
She doesn't need to talk about her backstory constantly... we already saw it go down in s1. She's basically the only villain that we actual… morely see most of their backstory.
Who cares that Lilly's story isn't done yet? Probably the 60% or so of players who still have her alive in her playthrough? It's hard to take what you say seriously when you're so negative about the whole thing.
Well there might have been just one writer that got hired elsewhere before Skybound took over, and perhaps if we had that one writer then Lily's scenes would have been more interesting than a Team Rocket member wanting to steal a pokemon for her boss back home.
Well there might have been just one writer that got hired elsewhere before Skybound took over, and perhaps if we had that one writer then Li… morely's scenes would have been more interesting than a Team Rocket member wanting to steal a pokemon for her boss back home.
One brand new person being hired at Telltale and then put on a project isnt going to be the savior, its a group effort. Also because the script was finished before the shutdown so...
Well there might have been just one writer that got hired elsewhere before Skybound took over, and perhaps if we had that one writer then Li… morely's scenes would have been more interesting than a Team Rocket member wanting to steal a pokemon for her boss back home.
Yeah thats a no dog.
One brand new person being hired at Telltale and then put on a project isnt going to be the savior, its a group effort. Also because the script was finished before the shutdown so...
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Thats not really saying much when literally all Telltales Walking Dead villains have been super underdeveloped and poorly written, even if what you said was true.
Abel should have been the leader of this Delta Squadron. After he dies in Episode 3, tensions rise and Lily is forced to choose which family she belongs to. Darn, this sounds like ANF. We should have at least gotten a moment where Lily and Clem are overseeing the seas, standing on the top deck. Like the S2Ep3 Next Time with Carver.
I honestly don't know where the side on any of that.
Other than the fact that it probably would've been better some of those ways.
lets not forget it was Carley blackmailing Lee to tell the motel inn group of his past and if he wouldn't , she would.
Lilly didn't care, as she knew Lee was genuine
Crazy how people forget Carley was a nosy bitch in S1. It's why I saved Doug over her.
Okay, I saw this and was just to lazy to comment:
it wasn't her blackmailing him so much as initially giving fair warning that should his place amongst the group prove to be a problem, she won't be inclined to keep it a secret any longer. Once a good amount of time has passed and the tensions between Kenny & Lily are undeniably high, she encourages him to do the telling himself since the group trusts him a lot more.
Lily didn't know anything about his past until Larry alluded to it at some point before the night at the Dairy. If Lee takes Carley's advice and shares his past with Lily, she responds one of two ways: if you have a positive/negative relationship with her, she either realizes that must be what Larry was talking about and considers it unimportant or simply states that she put it together herself after things started getting heated.
Well i think you do have a point, They had a potential for her but just 4 scenes. At least i got to kill her for what she did but i shouldn't blame them since telltale shut down but still, Wasted potential.
Are we equating Carly pushing Lee to be honest with himself and release his inner demons to promote honesty and confidence within his leadership role to Lilly murdering multiple people, abandoning and torturing children and cutting Louis's tongue out? I'm just asking.....
Letting it out made your relationship way stronger with everyone. When Lilly goes to rat you out to Kenny at the RV. Did you forget that? Or selective memory? After she off's Carly, everyone calls her a murderer. Than she wants to victim blame and pull Lee's past. And Kenny says "I don't give a fuck" pretty much. It was so rewarding because Carly pushed you to be honest.
Yeah she's better than Badger but that wasn't hard to do.
Who cares ? Her backstory ? She barely talks about it,we can barely talk about it and when we can our options are so limited that it doesn't matter we can't even talk about Kenny jesus it's fucking stupid.
Who cares ? They already ruined her there's nothing more to do with her,she killed James,we're gonna fight her and then she'll die in 5 minutes in the next episode.
She doesn't need to talk about her backstory constantly... we already saw it go down in s1. She's basically the only villain that we actually see most of their backstory.
Who cares that Lilly's story isn't done yet? Probably the 60% or so of players who still have her alive in her playthrough? It's hard to take what you say seriously when you're so negative about the whole thing.
You realize that argument shoots itself in the foot, right?
Wait, so Carver changed personalities...but Joan didn't
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Things like Lilly being underused isnt from Telltale shutting down. If Telltale didnt close episode 3 would have been the same story wise.
Lilly's character in Season 1 is not her backstory for the Final Season. We already knew Lilly then, but its been 7 years in this world now and she is now in a completely different group and position and we learn nothing about how that happened. No one is asking for Lilly to do some big speech about her past, but good story telling would give small hints for the player to start to put together what happened from Season 1 to now. They give nothing because the "backstory" we do have to her is irrelevant to what she is doing now. We want to know something for how she got to where she is now but they dont give it to us, instead we just go to "left behind and then 7 years later I kill kids."
Well there might have been just one writer that got hired elsewhere before Skybound took over, and perhaps if we had that one writer then Lily's scenes would have been more interesting than a Team Rocket member wanting to steal a pokemon for her boss back home.
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Yeah thats a no dog.
One brand new person being hired at Telltale and then put on a project isnt going to be the savior, its a group effort. Also because the script was finished before the shutdown so...
Yeah that's a good point most of the scripts for Episode 3 were done and they'd already made their minds. Oh well.