Why do villains from game suck in comparasion to TV/Comic villains?
Is it me or all the villains we've faced in Game are bad when we compare them to TV Series/Comic Series ones? Like c'mon. The St. John familly was decent. A bit "overwritten" at one point, but still decent. But later on?
The Stranger was pathetic. Carver had a great build up, but he turned out to be a complete idiot. New Frontier villains were terrible as well. Lilly being a villain feels so misplaced for the beginning and she also doesn't really make any good impressions throughout Episodes 2 & 3.
Is it really that hard for Telltale to make a good dark character?
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The villains that started to become a main plot focus is where the game showed they had no idea how to write a villain.
St Johns worked well as they were a twist, stranger isn't really an antagonist. Characters like Carver, Joan, and Lilly is where it falls apart. Carver wasn't written super badly, but he was killed off way too early for him to actually be a good bad guy.
I don't what the show or read the comics, but the villains there seem rather dumb and tryhard, conceptually speaking.
As for the game though, I think it's partly a matter of Telltale being unable to maintain the integrity of their stories across more than one episode. Like, I hate to say it, The St. Johns and The Stranger were probably as good as they were in part because they technically had only one episode of screentime and development to use, which means they got to be shown off and fleshed out as per a single vision.
By contrast:
Oh and they also have a habit of killing off their villains pretty quickly, which really hurt Joan and most likely Lilith.
Negan and Governor in TV Series managed to enslave people well. The first one made them so much terrified that they didn't even think about possible uprising. The second one enslaved them by making them feel like they aren't slaves. Carver - compared to those two - looks like a fucking clown to be honest.
2 words...bad Writing .
Because the writers sucks.
Also different writers,different visions,that's what happened with Carver Joan and Lilly.
And you forgot about Norma from the Michonne mini series (can't really blame you) i thought she was a decent and reasonable antagonist.
Randall was also a pretty good and charismatic "evil" villain in my opinion.
Oh yeah, I forgot as well.
Honestly, if there was any issue with them, it was that they in the Michonne Miniseries. Which meant relatively minimal screentime for the former especially in addition to the overall length keeping things from getting too complex.
Comics and TV show have much more time to develop their big bads. Not the only reason, but still a big one.
Haha what. The tv show villains are terrible, and the comic ones barely better than the show's.
You kidding me? The comic villains are all cringy edgelords, the TV show is a bit better with their adaptations.
The game has the best villains over-all.
Even Norma/Joan were better villains than any 1-dimensional comic bad guy.
yeah, TWDG lacks a season long occurring villain, not a bad or a good written villains that die in two episodes (Carver and Lilly), or a one that comes out of fucking nowhere and for 1 ep... it adds a threat and clear goal since the first episode, we could meet him or her since the first episode and build our story to defeat them in the last episode.
Something like the Admin in MCSM S2?
EDIT: and it saves us from the season being mostly a fucking filler. cough TFS cough
I'm sorry what ? The tv show just pretty much rehash the same shit from the comics and also fucked The All out War arc and the saviors.
The only antagonists/villains who were better in the show than in the comics were Shane and the Claimers.
You're saying Norma and Joan are better villains then The Governor or Negan ? That's a joke right ?
Pretty much all the villains in the games are evil generic bad guys who gets killed off before reaching their full potential except the St Johns,the Stranger and maybe Norma/Randall.
People have opinions, but honestly I don't know how can you think that Carver was a better villain than Governor from TV Series.
In my opinion the tv show villains are more realised/can flourish the most, for a number of reasons.
Like the fact that it's gone on for eight seasons?
9 Seasons actually,and they're making another one.
Ah, of course. Forgive my ignorance.
Naughty, naughty.