F*** Kenny

edited June 2013 in The Walking Dead
I told myself that I wouldn't do another playthrough until all episodes were out but after ep 2 I have decided to do another run with the sole purpose of treating Kenny like the piece of shit he is. It may not be my canonical playthrough but he has to pay for his cowardice somehow
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  • edited June 2012
    I'm guessing you sided with Lilly when it came to the Larry situation then?
  • edited June 2012
    You do understand as long as you have his back he has yours right?

    He ends up saving you at the "Danny execution" scene.
  • edited June 2012
    Isnt that the glory of this game?
    And why it has ZERO replayability.
  • edited June 2012
    If you treat Kenny like a piece of crap, who saves you from Danny? Lilly?

    Anyone have tried this?
  • edited June 2012
    The_Ripper wrote: »
    If you treat Kenny like a piece of crap, who saves you from Danny? Lilly?

    Anyone have tried this?

    Yeah Lilly comes to your rescue as Kenny just hides in the stall looking scared as hell.
  • edited June 2012
    On other plays i have WANTED to side with kenny in the meat locker, but i hate the way you have to pull her away
  • edited June 2012
    Yeah! Lost my respect there... all mouth, no do... What a wanker!
  • edited June 2012
    Yeah I sided with Lily because, though an ass, Larry wasn't a zombie yet. Still, I was with Kenny the whole time, feeding his kid both episodes, protecting Duck from Larry in ep 1, just for him to leave me to die the only time I disagreed with him. The man is garbage.

    Now, since my "screw Kenny" playthrough, I can see how big a piece of trash he is.

    This is the only game I have played that has actually made me feel betrayed by a character...keep up the good work telltale.
  • edited June 2012
    I totally agree. I was so pissed at kenny i didn't know what to do! It made me think about how he didn't even save shawn once duck was free. He may have you back if you sided with him but it is possible that he will turn on you later in the game. Not once has he attempted to save clem and he only want's lee around to protect his family. also the choice makes me think that he just wanted to get rid of larry him self! If lilly doesn't have her dad there is no one to back her up and he can be the leader. As the episodes continue it start to show his true nature.Theres one thing to protect your family but once you are in the situation that they are in now you form a new family. I had to create a whole new storage save just for kenny i am just that pissed at him lol
  • edited June 2012
    I went through and replayed as well as I completely neglected Kenny and left him and his family to starve. Even saving my energy bars... although they don't follow me. I guess after 3 months, 'Urban' people get hungry too.

    Was slightly sad that my batteries didn't follow me over. I purposefully kept them just to see if I could watch the video earlier. Nope!
  • CapnJayCapnJay Banned
    edited June 2012
    Thing is Lily is way more badass as a rescuer
  • edited June 2012
    deadk1ng wrote: »
    Yeah I sided with Lily because, though an ass, Larry wasn't a zombie yet. Still, I was with Kenny the whole time, feeding his kid both episodes, protecting Duck from Larry in ep 1, just for him to leave me to die the only time I disagreed with him. The man is garbage.

    I agree - the number of times you have to give up your principles for this guy is one time too many.

    The only real alliance would be with Clem and Carly / Doug. Lilly is unstable without Larry, so we need Episode 3 to see where her character heads towards.
  • edited June 2012
    the only thing I even did wrong to kenny was in episode 1 on the last prompt during the "Duck is bitten" argument with larry the last prompt i chose to say something bout how maybe he is.

    I'm gonna replay it because I am being driven nuts because he constantly brings it up when arguing with me. I started to go against him in things near end of episode 2 because i was sick of his crap.

    i like kenny and his values but he holds grudges like no other
  • edited June 2012
    NessaT wrote: »
    I agree - the number of times you have to give up your principles for this guy is one time too many.

    The only real alliance would be with Clem and Carly / Doug. Lilly is unstable without Larry, so we need Episode 3 to see where her character heads towards.

    I agree-also this will lead to lilly leaving there side due to that ass. there was a difference between the two guys in the woods that you bring back to camp they died from blood lost and there was bigger chance of them turning. larry didn't hit the ground for no more than 15 to 30 seconds and lilly was on him. she said she has seen him in worse conditions in episode 1 and there was a chance he would be fine! Regardless kenny didn't even give a chance to see if it was possble for him to recover
  • edited June 2012
    Saylenia wrote: »
    I was so pissed at kenny i didn't know what to do! It made me think about how he didn't even save shawn once duck was free.

    Yeah this bugged me in Episode 1 how Shawn could've been saved. And then in the Drug Store Kenny has the guts to say that Shawn's blood is on their hands. I'm pretty sure Lee could've worked together with Kenny to save Shawn after Duck was saved. Instead he ran away like the coward he's become. But you never know he may redeem himself in future episodes, only time will tell...
  • edited June 2012
    Anyone remembers, back on Drugstore, that Larry punched Lee to LET HIM DIE? He tries to kill Lee!

    Besides, no one in the room it's a medic and he stops breathing. Enough. Larry doesn't deserve more time or efforts. And dealing with a zombie with the Larry's size it's not easy. They need to act quickly.

    I'm sorry for Lilly, I swear.

    At the moment, here's a Kenny supporter. :D
  • CapnJayCapnJay Banned
    edited June 2012
    Kenny's a great guy if you side with him 100% of the time otherwise...


    I wonder how many people would shoot kenny in the back soon as they get to his boat and get it running
  • edited June 2012
    CapnJay wrote: »
    Kenny's a great guy if you side with him 100% of the time otherwise...


    I wonder how many people would shoot kenny in the back soon as they get to his boat and get it running


    Wouldn't that be a fun way to end the game?
  • edited June 2012
    The_Ripper wrote: »
    Anyone remembers, back on Drugstore, that Larry punched Lee to LET HIM DIE? He tries to kill Lee!

    Besides, no one in the room it's a medic and he stops breathing. Enough. Larry doesn't deserve more time or efforts. And dealing with a zombie with the Larry's size it's not easy. They need to act quickly.

    I'm sorry for Lilly, I swear.

    At the moment, here's a Kenny supporter. :D

    won't lie I did not like larry in episode 1. I wanted him to die by lee's hands not kenny's! this was not about how lee was almost killed in the drug store. This was about kenny not listen to any voice of reason! However it's was ok for him to defend duck against larry when larry thought he was bite and lee and kenny had to stall so there was proof! it was the same thing in reverse but kenny didn't allow any defense. He attacked a man who had a heart attack with out proof!

    Not that i don't have a another save storage just for the kill
  • edited June 2012
    Saylenia wrote: »
    won't lie I did not like larry in episode 1. I wanted him to die by lee's hands not kenny's! this was not about how lee was almost killed in the drug store. This was about kenny not listen to any voice of reason! However it's was ok for him to defend duck against larry when larry thought he was bite and lee and kenny had to stall so there was proof! it was the same thing in reverse but kenny didn't allow any defense. He attacked a man who had a heart attack with out proof!

    Not that i don't have a another save storage just for the kill

    Would you risk being locked with a guy who has left breathing and can become a walker at any moment?

    Do you need more proof than the lack of breathing and absence of pulse on those circumstances?
  • edited June 2012
    While in Lee's situation end of Ep. 1, I would've outed Larry's action in the drug store. Then I would've taken a share of the supplies for Clem and myself and left.

    But there were options for Larry. They could have gagged Larry (to prevent a surprise bite) while trying to resuscitation him. Even pinned down his arms.

    I don't find Larry blameless in his own death however. He knows his own medical history, and that he needs to keep his blood pressure down. He did partially bring it on himself.

    But Kenny is a coward and a fool (I see where Ducky gets it! Ducky kept eating Markloaf after I ran in and shouted "Don't eat that!"). Maybe in the "always back Kenny" play through he helps with Danny. But in my try for Larry attempt, Kenny goes off half-cocked way too often. He sped out of the slaughter house, he ran out of the barn.

    And after he got shot, I found myself hoping he would die so the group could have a Katjaa unhindered by Kenny. Then I saw the "next time" video and was disappointed.
  • CapnJayCapnJay Banned
    edited June 2012
    you didnt see the limping scene where he said he wasnt as young as he used to be before the next time video?
  • edited June 2012
    But Kenny is a coward and a fool. Maybe in the "always back Kenny" play through he helps with Danny.

    Yes, he helps Lee with Danny. Danny doesn't know there are two persons hiding. Kenny goes out and cut him with a tool from the slaughter (I don't know the name now... :confused:)

    I admit Kenny it's a little selfish but he fights for the people who loves when it needs (included good friends).
  • edited June 2012
    Did you read my previous posts before that one? Oh well sorry if i confused you. What i meant was kenny was not able to be reasoned with and he was allowed to defend duck with lee's help but when it came to lily and lee trying to reason with him he unreasonable there were options and he didn't allow it. I don't recall lily saying he didn't have a pulse but that he was not breathing and he had a heart attack. She did not say he did not have a pulse just not breathing. kenny was unreasonable. To me atleast. That was in the first playthru i helped kenny in the other one. I may have had a trick of the eyes with him breathing but i can be wrong np
  • edited June 2012
    how can you say he he/we missed the point (he was alive?)

    In my playtrough he didn't breath, he didn't have a pulse and his heart had stopped pumping blood...

    If that Isn't a valid reason to crush a man heads in the zombie apocalypses then I don't know what is...
  • edited June 2012
    I am sure that if Larry turned then both Lee and Kenny could of took him out before he bit anyone so there really wasn't any threat. Larry made up for punching me in the face by coming to my aid when the teacher "zombified." (Where was Kenny by the way?)

    Also at the end of ep 1 Larry makes it clear that he is watching out for Clem as well as his own daughter whereas Kenny is only concerned for his OWN family.

    In fact...the more attention I pay to Kenny's character the more I see the db he is.
  • edited June 2012
    I sit back and read this post like many others, and say to myself, "God, isn't the writers and everyone at TWD productions such artists and ground breakers in character progression?"

    That will do, Pig.
  • edited June 2012
    deadk1ng wrote: »
    I am sure that if Larry turned then both Lee and Kenny could of took him out before he bit anyone so there really wasn't any threat. Larry made up for punching me in the face by coming to my aid when the teacher "zombified." (Where was Kenny by the way?)

    Also at the end of ep 1 Larry makes it clear that he is watching out for Clem as well as his own daughter whereas Kenny is only concerned for his OWN family.

    In fact...the more attention I pay to Kenny's character the more I see the db he is.

    Agreed - Larry is a dick, but he worries about his daughter and Clementine. He also saved Lee's life even though he hated his guts. He talks tough, but I'm sure he's a softy at heart. :)
  • edited June 2012
    Xalorien...they sure are.
  • edited June 2012
    Easy solution for the Kenny situation.

    -Reach the boat
    -Wait for him to start it
    - Kill Kenny
    -FREEDOM!!!
  • edited June 2012
    Im with Lilly myself, Kenny is a dick. That was so uncool that you just disagree with him once and he turns into a ass.

    At least you can disagree with Lilly and her father a few times and she doesnt act like a baby.
  • edited June 2012
    The_Ripper wrote: »
    If you treat Kenny like a piece of crap, who saves you from Danny? Lilly?

    Anyone have tried this?
    Oops I was thinking with Andy. But yes she stabs him.
  • edited June 2012
    It was really interesting to see Kenny's character change. During the first episode, I really liked him. He was friendly, I helped save Duck when he was on the tractor, and Kenny seemed like he could be a loyal friend. Second episode, you could tell he was losing it and the stress was getting to him. I didn't like how he was always arguing with Lilly, and I refused to pick sides every time Kenny asked me who I'd side with. I'm not the type of person who picks sides, I'm a peacemaker and I try to help everyone get along. Kenny refused to get along. Then he demands that you crush Larry's head after Larry passed out, and if you don't do anything within 4-5 seconds, he says "YOU'RE USELESS LEE!" and then smashes Larry 's head on his own. Seriously, after that I was done with Kenny. He just needs to calm down and reason with people. Should have at least given me a few seconds to talk it through before making me decide if we should crush Larry's head. We didn't even know if Larry was dead yet, he could have just passed out and needed more CPR.

    Yeah, I'm done with Kenny. Telltale did a great job of developing his character in this episode though. Really interesting to see his character change under the stressful situations. For most of the episode I thought I'd pick Kenny, if I had to take sides but now I think I'll be siding with Lilly in the next episode.
  • edited June 2012
    For most of the episode I thought I'd pick Kenny, if I had to take sides but now I think I'll be siding with Lilly in the next episode.

    Yeah, I thought so myself, but in the Episode 3 preview it seemed like Lilly will start to lose it too... So I'm not sure if I'll continue siding with her, but we'll see in Ep3.
  • edited June 2012
    Lol!

    This is all pretty reactionary folks...

    Every member of the group so far has had bad moments, has been less than perfect, has done stuff that you would rather they didn't...

    Like real life... except that these people are experiencing life in extremis after the balloon has gone up.

    Lee, for me, is the glue that has to keep the disparate band together - he has to tolerate others when they behave like idiots, and to forgive and forget when they balls things up.

    Community & cooperation are the factors which give primate groups the advantage in survival over other species. We're in this game as prey hunted by a species (ie zombies) with advantages over us, which can only really be overcome by brain power in the context of a team/community.

    You're never gonna find a team where you agree with everyone, and if you hold a grudge, you are weakening the team. You may think that being a lone-wolf hard assed survivor is the way to go... human history will prove you wrong. In times of crisis it is strong communities that survive. You have to sleep, you will get ill, other people will have better ideas than you, your primate brain is hardwired for social interaction.

    Kenny ballsed up & let you down. Other times he hasn't. Maybe he saved us all when he mashed Larry's head. Forgive, forget, move on & try keep the team together at all costs, or we will be meat. Time for Lee to be strong.
  • edited June 2012
    i just did a "kenny all the way" playthrough... i felt really bad when i pulled lilly of her dad and kennys way is not always approved by clementine!

    overall, i think lilly is more trustworthy..
  • edited June 2012
    i think this will be an issue in part 3. the fact that you could say to him that he stepped over the line .
    and you backed him when it was his son in that position. that kenny will try to redeem himself in later chapters . realizing he went too far
  • edited June 2012
    While in Lee's situation end of Ep. 1, I would've outed Larry's action in the drug store. Then I would've taken a share of the supplies for Clem and myself and left.

    But there were options for Larry. They could have gagged Larry (to prevent a surprise bite) while trying to resuscitation him. Even pinned down his arms.

    I don't find Larry blameless in his own death however. He knows his own medical history, and that he needs to keep his blood pressure down. He did partially bring it on himself.

    But Kenny is a coward and a fool (I see where Ducky gets it! Ducky kept eating Markloaf after I ran in and shouted "Don't eat that!"). Maybe in the "always back Kenny" play through he helps with Danny. But in my try for Larry attempt, Kenny goes off half-cocked way too often. He sped out of the slaughter house, he ran out of the barn.

    And after he got shot, I found myself hoping he would die so the group could have a Katjaa unhindered by Kenny. Then I saw the "next time" video and was disappointed.

    Just a minor nitpick.. as Ben stated earlier in the episode.. the 'bite' has nothing to do with turning into a walker.. all you have to do is die. Then you become a walker. I let Larry die.. for a multitude of reasons. He's an ass.. He know's Lee is a murderer. But most importantly... having a 6'+ 220+ pound walker, in tight quarters with no *established* escape route... sorry.. better to be safe than sorry, and losing anyone else that was locked in the room. Definitely a self defense thing, IMO.
  • edited July 2012
    me and kenny are good ol buddies, when or IF he gets a vehicle i intend to go with him.
    also if you help him get rid of Larry, he does indeed help you deal with Danny, however
    dont expect Lilly to help you with the other brother when he wants to fry your face on the wire
  • edited July 2012
    At the end of the first episode I was just waiting for the moment I would have the chance to repay Larry for everything he did at the drugstore. But when the moment came I just couldn’t do it. Not that way.

    Lilly was desperately trying to save her dad and there was a chance to do it (and, in fact, I think you save him before the… you know). And if he died, Kenny could be there prepared to do what he did (by the way, great job done by the writers, I really felt like I should try to help Larry even disliking him).

    But I really got disappointed with Kenny. He can always redeem himself, but it seems there is no middle ground with him. You are 100% with him (no matter what he says and do) or you are an enemy.

    He is with the group only for security. If they get into a desperate situation he will simply flee with his family and leave everyone to die. The only thing that may avoid him from doing it is his wife (I think).
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