(SPOILER ALERT!!!)Anyone else extremely upset by this in episode 3
I really liked Lilly, and i was so mad when she took off on her own because of her killing Carley..and after i completed the episode i went back on another saved game and tried to re-do it so she wouldn't kill Carley and take off but no matter what you do she leaves the group. What makes me upset about it is now there's no chance of getting it in with Lilly or Carley! Maybe Lilly will appear again in another episode? I hope she does, she was my favorite character
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1.) You leave her after shooting Doug/Carley
2.) She betrays you and leaves when you get Clem
3.) She takes off with the SUV without even asking you to come with her
If this is the one I had, she makes sure to let you know that she could have killed you while your back was turned to her and basically was mulling it over as she was standing behind you.
I played through the first time leaving her behind, then once I beat the episode I decided to rewind to the argument to see if I could save Carley. Since I couldn't, I chose to take her along just to see what would be different.
How on earth was lilly your favorite character? I mean obviously its a matter of opinion but....well actually it really isnt. Its a video game the characters are pretty forward about who they are. This is why everyone likes Lee, Clem and Carly and not many like kenny or lilly, especially as their favorite. I regret taking lilly back on the RV now, she really was a threat to the group the whole time.
Lilly is my favourite character as well and I don't think there's anything wrong with that. I understand her, I relate to her as the only other character who makes tough choices. She's a good friend, compassionate and rational.
She loses it in ep 3 but that's motivated by the rest of the weaklings in the group and, of course, by Kenny.
I like Clem, but why am I supposed to like Carley exactly? I'm not that desperate for a romance and she's been pretty useless. Despite her shooting skills (that Lily also possesses even to a greater extent) she don't do anything. She never takes responsibility for anything, she's just hanging around. Carley is weak and if not protected she wouldn't survive long.
During a zombie apocalypse nobody has the right to be weak if they want to survive.
Plus I've always liked tragic characters better than those that are shoved in my face and I'm supposed to like them for some unknown reasons.
I doubt she will return within this story. Too many people feel differently towards her and not being able to deal with her the way they wanted will feel unrealistic. The only thing we can see her is with some sort of cameo because she has to remain alive in order to do Woodbury stuff.
To finish this post, I will say that to me Lilly is the most interesting character in the game and I was really sad to see her go.
I'm really looking forward to her story in this book - http://www.amazon.com/The-Walking-Dead-Road-Woodbury/dp/0312547749
I did this because 1) I was angry she did that. And 2) It is her destiny to join up with the Governor's group. She will redeem herself in issue #48 of the comic.
I like Carly and we should have got it on at the motel in those queen size beds while we had a chance. BUt yeah this is a 'kid's' game about zombies and shooting Duck and stuff so I guess you aren't allowed to have sex. Usual AMerican thing, drugs / guns ok but sex .. oh noes the childreeeeennnnn!
I like Lilly too because she is the best shot of the group. Air Force trained, she can handle weapons better than most of the group.. she's just mental since Kenny smashed her dad's head in. Which is fair enough. I'd be a bit unhinged after that.
Tell me if I'm not reading this correctly but you're upset because now you no longer have the possibility to "have sex" with them? Wow...
Are you not sexually mature yourself yet??!
Seriously, in a world with about 5 women so far, wouldn't you be trying to get some release ASAP? Especially considering Carly seems to be the hottest we've stumbled on in this world so far. She was more caring than Lilly too so would probably be better in bed.I was just getting used to the idea of Clem having some sort of new mother figure and some passion with Carly in later episodes.
At the very least, people might stop assuming that Clem isn't your daugther. She kind of looks half african-american & half asian-american. I wanted to punch the new female to the group when she at first said 'So you're not her dad huh' or similar paraphrase.
I did really like Lilly as a character, she was great, and sadly I really doubt we will see her again.
What has the world come to? :rolleyes:
I hate Christa! Don't know her from a pack of cigs on the ground..
Lilly & Carly both represented different types of tough women.
A feature quite absent now.. Christa is just a whinger to me! Nothing is good enough for her.
It's a pity u can't follow her to Woodsburry )
Oh boy you don't wanna get me started on this...but too late!
Lilly is a genuine, caring person...I'm pretty sure being a leader of a group trying to survive during an apocalypse is no easy task and is very stressing. She has to be tough and bitchy at sometimes cause that's what all leaders/bosses have to do in order to make sure everything is under control. She cared about the group a lot. When Kenny smashed her father's head in right in front of her, that mentally messed her up...any human being would be mentally messed up seeing their father getting their head smashed in. She STILL did her best to take of the group even kenny after that. Anyone can respect that, and she basically risked her life saving the group at the hotel when the bandits raided them. Lilly has been through enough and Carley was outta line saying those harsh words to her. I do think Lilly overreacted and maybe a slap to the face would've been more appropriate but it's whatever. She didn't like that someone was stealing from the group that they were taken care by, and lost it for a second. I wouldn't have even punished Lilly if it was an option.
I have never been more emotionally attached to a game in my 19 years of my gaming life...Very good job TellTale Games, Very good.
So basically I'm supposed to forgive her because she snapped? Please don't use that excuse. In that case, anyone can kill and blame on their poor weakness as being human. I would sympathize with her if Carley was indeed the culprit. But guess what? She wasn't! Lilly made a hasty decision and killed an innocent. If I was Lee, I will seek vengeance for Carley. I am now weary of the game now that knowing the comic highly favors Lilly. The only way for her the redeem herself is with her death.
But that's realistic though...Can't a person get a lesser punishment or even acquitted from a crime if they are deemed mentally insane? With all that's happened to Lilly i think you can consider her legally insane. She's forgiven by me. I think that some gamers' judgement on Lilly is clouded by the fact that they had a crush on Carley.
Yeah, I don't think real life is like Law and Order, you don't get out after 6 months after fooling a jury. A lot of mental insane people spend their lives in the asylum (or quite a long stretch). Spending a good portion of your life in an asylum does not seem like the punishment is less.
I lost Doug my favorite character
Duck was pretty cute when we went on an investigation, and he just died.
Katjaa was a nice person, but ended up killing herself
Kenny my best friend, has turned into a very dark character.
Lilly i hoped and thought she wouldn't kill anyone after her dad was killed, instead she killed Doug which was supposed to be Ben, or Carley, over stolen medicine...
I'm more worried about Ben getting Killed off in EP4 or EP5, people are so upset with him thinking he's the reason Carley is dead, but no one ever listens to reason.
I never sided with Lilly, but even I have to give her credit for the stuff she did right. The food rationing, for one. Hard, but necessary for the group's survival. I feel I might have liked her more if she wasn't always influenced by Larry in the first two episodes, because she never really stood up to him. At least not without taking it back when he called her on it. But then, in 3, Lilly saved the group during the raid. She shot the bandit leader, distracting the other bandits long enough for Carley to grab a gun and everyone else to get to cover. Keeping her own tabs on the supplies was also a clever idea.
But when she murdered Carley, she had no evidence. Carley may have pushed her a little too far at just the wrong moment, but that doesn't mean we can just dismiss a cold blooded murder amongst the group when all we have is each other. If she snapped but slapped Carley accross the face, or went up and put a knee between Kenny's legs, and hard, then we could forgive her. Ok, Kenny's future children may not, but that's beside the point.
It's worse that my main favorite NPC (Carley) was killed by my second favorite NPC (Lilly), with two other characters removed as collateral damage.
Of course, this is the midpoint of the storyline... the time when things are supposed to go bad.
It's not like she was always mentally insane. I can relate to Lily being a leader and having to make tough and stressful decisions, that may not be the group's favorite, but has to be done in order to keep control of the group. Lily's always had Lee's back, and even after what happened to her dad she would (well, for me anyway because i chose to try and help him). I trust Lily way more than Kenny as well...she took the news about me being a murderer better than Kenny did and Kenny almost let Lee die under that door.
But as for Lily killing Carley, it's not like i think that was the right thing to do, cause it wasn't. I didn't like it but i guess she had it coming to her. She should've known Lily's mind state and should've tried talking to her more in a less harsh way. If anyone killed one of my parents without knowing they were a zombie for sure first, i'd snap somone's shit up too
The problem with mentally unstable people is even if they are not always crazy, you have no idea when they are going to lose it again and shoot somebody. And that whole bit about it being Carley's fault for Lily shooting her is pretty far fetched. Carley insulting her doesn't give her a justification for shooting her in the face.
I never said it was entirely her fault, like i said it was the wrong thing for Lily to do to shoot her of course, but Carley just said the wrong thing at the wrong time. She also made her self look more suspicious to Lily trying to defend Ben
I'm glad I took Lilly with me though because then hopefully she will show up later in Ep 4 or 5 and hopefully she won't be trying to kill me.
The difference is that in the first argument Lilly didn't have the gun, Carley did. In the second argument, Carley didn't have the gun, Lilly did. Lilly was always a poisonous coward and a monster who only wanted people as long as they were useful.
And she never once came up with a good plan until the beginning of Episode 3 (which she screwed up anyway by shooting the bandit you had already negotiated with). She was always telling people what to do when things were calm and then she'd break down and hide when crap hit the fan.
Seriously, Kenny is a friggin' superstar in hindsight. Total douche sometimes, yeah, but he never wanted power or tried to keep it, he was just a natural leader.