I liked Nate :P he's the anti-hero walking dead needs. I would loev to see him again in season 2, eevn if we have to kill him or something after, but I agree he has a good side, he just goes all psycho eyes over some stuff :P
Funny thing is though, Nate might try to take Clem under his wing. He does have a good side (he didn't have to give Russell a ride, and even if you try to kill him, he saves your life).
Still, I see him, and I am running away as fast as possible.
Agreed.
As for the huge fan of season 1 that I am, I still have such doubts about the whole idea of playing as Clementine, that since a demo will probably be released at the same time -at least- as the episode, I'll download the demo first to try it. From then it could go either way, I may be hooked on the spot once again, but I could also very well decide not to acquire the episode, and quit TWD in order not to waste my excellent memories of season 1.
I cross my fingers, I loved season 1 so much, I want to love season 2...
While yes,I am very excited to play as Clem....it can't take of my mind the fact that she is a child.As OP said,playing as Lee (adult) allowed for many options.
Clem....damn,Clem is 10,max 11.If she was 15,16 that would be fine,as by the time she is that old she would much more grown up.But according to the pictures (she does look older,I can't say) she isn't that older then at the end of S1.Alright,she isn't that childish,but unless she somehow magically became super mature over the course of a few months (Season 1-Season 2),I can't see her making difficult decisions as Lee did.And TT does mention that the choices will be harder,and even confirmed story branching (logically according to our choices).
But,I trust TT will pull this off the best way they can,just as they did S1 and picked up all the praise along the way. :P
Anti-hero might be a stretch. After all, he didn't have to kill the old couple. While I appreciate the "you try to kill us, we take you out" mentality, the old guy's story made sense. He could have put the rifle in the parking lot, taken some food, and driven off.
I liked Nate :P he's the anti-hero walking dead needs. I would loev to see him again in season 2, eevn if we have to kill him or something after, but I agree he has a good side, he just goes all psycho eyes over some stuff :P
I like the change of pace. New opportunities for decisions and scenarios without repeating the same situations from Season 1, or the other Walking Dead series. Season 1 was like playing a surrogate for Rick, now Season 2 will be like playing a surrogate for Carl. Totally different mindsets. It would have been really lame to just have Season 2 feature another really nice, friendly stranger who adopts Clem. This method gives Season 2 a fresh direction while keeping all the Clementine fans happy. A good compromise imo.
Telltale will pull this off, I find that playing as Clementine is a step forward you get to continue her story and also see the apocalypses from the eyes of a child which is very interesting. This is something that is not implemented into most games these days, I know that they did it in the last of us for a short time but I don't see what the big deal is with that game it's just another bland cover shooter ...
I think the fact that every single image of season 2 so far has been at night says a lot. Even though the thought of anything happening to Clem horrifies me, I want that dark ambiance too. I think playing as Clem will make every thing much more bleak.
Think about it:
You are probably alone, and have been for months.
While you are smart and a good shot, you can't really rely on physical strength.
A lot of people might try to manipulate you or flat out try and kill you because you are an easy target.
Everyone she has ever cared about is either dead or missing.
That's bleak enough. Even though the Clem from season 1 was bright and optimistic, a lot of her innocence will probably be gone now. This game has a potential to be very dark.
Indeed.
This is the Walking Dead universe, a cruel, dark world where horrible and disturbing things happen.
Telltale decided to make a 9 yea… morer old girl the main character, fine, but it can't be at the expense of the atmosphere and spirit of TWD.
As much as I loved Clementine (actually I loved protecting her, can't say I like the idea of being her but I'll give season 2 the benefit of the doubt), I'm here for the Walking Dead ambiance, not for this or that particular character. Of course characters need to be great too, but you see what I mean.
I never said playing as clementine would not be fun. But for a entire season? I want to be able to chop some dudes legs off or beat the hell out of Kenny so he knows his kid is 1 step from the grave..... None of that is possible playing a clementine....
inb4 there's a scene where you have to shoot Nate and nate fans become the new kenny fans, speculating how Nate is still alive "Oh well the bullet didn't hit him right. waaa"
Stuff like that could still happen. It's entirely possible that part of the gameplay will be convincing other players to team up with you. While you might not be beating the crap out of people, nothing is stopping you from convincing other characters to do it for you.
And besides this game isn't about combat, it's about character development. Granted, that often involves combat, but still.
I never said playing as clementine would not be fun. But for a entire season? I want to be able to chop some dudes legs off or beat the hell o… moreut of Kenny so he knows his kid is 1 step from the grave..... None of that is possible playing a clementine....
I think that this is going to be an interesting turn for TWD, and considering TTG's track record for not fucking things up, I doubt Season 2 will dissapoint. Sure, Clem's going to be limited in what she can do as a child but there's always other ways around it. That walker blocking your exit could be distracted by throwing a bottle into a nearby alleyway, for instance, and as a child there's even some opportunities which are now available that wouldn't be found with an adult, like being able to move into smaller spaces. And I could be wrong but something tells me that TTG aren't going to try and re-use a similar kind of ending like they did for Episode 5. If something bad does happen to Clem, then it'll probably be done in a different kind of way. TTG has earned its trust and respect that much, at least.
@gamerguy09 "Think about it like this, imagine playing the first season as Clementine. Imagine how crazy awesome that would be? I can tell that this game is going to be great, anyone who thinks otherwise is crazy."
You do realize how stupid people look when they call someone crazy just because their opinion differ from his own.
Also no and in all honesty i probably wouldn't have played season 1 if they outright put me in the shoes of an 8 yo girl surviving in a zombie apocalypse (because that sounds fucking stupid).
Your idea is somewhat along the lines of, Would you like a TWD season entirely about Carl? see how bad that sounds? might as well just rename the show to the adventures of Carl in zombietopia.
Okay.... We will just have to wait until the first episode to see. One of my worries is that the PC will always be alone like Elle was in the last of us.
Being alone like in The Last of Us is not the same as playing TWD and begins to shy away what made the first game great.. I'm not going to pretend to know the comic world but the show I have watched a bunch. Rick just got done saying that strength was in numbers last episode. People are the best defense from walkers.... Every walking dead television episode was pretty much a group effort.
I feel that The only direction we can go in playing as clementine is more of The Last Of Us and less of what we expect from TWD universe.
Someone posted playing as clementine is like playing as Carl..... I don't want to play a TWD game as Carl. Carl is just another member of the group he follows what Rick says to do. Walkers broke in last episode where did Rick send Carl.. Over to the tower to be safe......
I would rather play the PC of a adult who goes in to the cell blocks to kill the walkers. Not be a child sent up to the tower to be safe....
I have to wonder if TTG thought this through from the beginning or if playing a so clementine was decided after they already killed Lee off.
Clementine didn't "sit in the tower" when she wasn't able to take care of herself (remember how she came out to the river to the and help you in episode 4?) She will be getting stuff done.
Secondly, while I think you might start off alone, you might form a group around yourself over time. People are the best defense against other people, but you have to be careful who you trust. Some people might not hesitate to stab you in the back, even though helping you could benefit them more in the long term.
It's like the prisoners dilemma:
Two people are brought in for robbing a store. The police know that they are both guilty, but don't have enough evidence to prove it in court. However, they do have enough evidence to convict them on a smaller charge. The police isolate each person and tell them they have two options, rat the other guy out, or stay silent.
If both are silent, they each get a 6 month jail sentence.
If one is silent and the other talks, the silent one gets a 5 year sentence and the other gets 3 months.
If they both talk, they both get 3 years in jail.
It is most beneficial for both to stay quiet and take the 6 month sentence. However, most of the time, they both will talk. They have the short term benefit possibly spending 3 months less in prison, and if they don't talk, they could spend 5 years in jail.
If other survivors don't backstab each other (and turn out to be competent), it would benefit them both the most to work together in the long term. However, the small gain in the short term (more supplies from whoever you back stabbed) is going to prevent many people from working together.
TL; DR you, as a child, probably need other people to survive in the long term. Adults might just see you as a burden. If adults have trouble working with each other, convincing them to work with a child is going to be a challenge. However, if you show how useful you are, they might be willing to work with you (maybe even take orders from you, but that's unlikely).
Okay.... We will just have to wait until the first episode to see. One of my worries is that the PC will always be alone like Elle was in the … morelast of us.
Being alone like in The Last of Us is not the same as playing TWD and begins to shy away what made the first game great.. I'm not going to pretend to know the comic world but the show I have watched a bunch. Rick just got done saying that strength was in numbers last episode. People are the best defense from walkers.... Every walking dead television episode was pretty much a group effort.
I feel that The only direction we can go in playing as clementine is more of The Last Of Us and less of what we expect from TWD universe.
Someone posted playing as clementine is like playing as Carl..... I don't want to play a TWD game as Carl. Carl is just another member of the group he follows what Rick says to do. Walkers broke in last episode where did Rick send Carl.. Over to the tower to be safe.… [view original content]
Man I'm so torn over this!! I do trust TTG. I do... I don't want to seem like a broken record but this direction for season 2 might be harder then TTG realized. Even from what I have seen about the comics over at Wikipedia I just could not see playing as Carl when Rick is the group leader. Call me old fashion but I would rather play as the group leader then a follower.
I think TTG should have allowed Lee's brother to live. Instead of finding the brother outside as a walker, find his bloody jacket with pharmacy keys in it letting Lee wonder if he is still alive.
That would have given wiggle room to start season 2 as clementine for episode 1 then meet up with Lees's brother who takes to protecting clementine. That would give you a strong leader PC to play the rest of the season. I can see playing as a teenager but TTG set clementine up too young to be a teenager this season. I could have seen playing as clementine in season 3.
We're straying off the topic I started thought. I wanted to see how TTG could make a darker TWD universe with the PC as Clementine. Since this game is CANON with the comics and tv show it gets darker as it goes. More killing. More gory. More walkers. I really think the task for TTG to raise the bar was hard already for season 2 before we knew who the PC was.
My opinion is that playing as a much, much more helpless character is only going to make the world feel bleaker. Lee could "knock a couple of heads together " if he had to. Clem can barely reach up to a mans head with a hammer. That posses as serious challenge unless she finds a pistol with a suppressor (always using guns is a bad idea, too much noise).
Man I'm so torn over this!! I do trust TTG. I do... I don't want to seem like a broken record but this direction for season 2 might be harder … morethen TTG realized. Even from what I have seen about the comics over at Wikipedia I just could not see playing as Carl when Rick is the group leader. Call me old fashion but I would rather play as the group leader then a follower.
I think TTG should have allowed Lee's brother to live. Instead of finding the brother outside as a walker, find his bloody jacket with pharmacy keys in it letting Lee wonder if he is still alive.
That would have given wiggle room to start season 2 as clementine for episode 1 then meet up with Lees's brother who takes to protecting clementine. That would give you a strong leader PC to play the rest of the season. I can see playing as a teenager but TTG set clementine up too young to be a teenager this season. I could have seen playing as clementine in season 3.
We're strayi… [view original content]
Yes playing as a defenseless child would make the world bleaker. But to stay in rhythm with TWD universe most everyone stays in groups. What's the point of being in a group playing as a defenseless child. It would seem everyone else is dispensing the walkers.
Playing clementine in a me VS the world does not really mesh with the comics or TV show because most of them are in groups.
That's just it. My guess is you will start out alone and later on become a part of a small, group, maybe 5 other people at most. Part of the game will be deciding who you want to join up with who can you trust, etc. You might be traveling with someone who will try to kill you, and you have to run away and loose all of your supplies. Sure, you might find a strong and capable ally, but a bullet to the head can take out a man in his prime. My guess is that there will be more death of everyone around you than in season 1. Hell, even if you are in a group, you will still have to take care of some walkers on your own. Any encounters with walkers will be difficult and intense. In most combat situations, you will have a net disadvantage. It won't be you versus the world, but allies will be few and far between, and not everyone will be sincere. Will their be some people who will stick around and help? Of course. Will there be plenty of people who will stab you in the back? Defiantly. Will some people just be flat out crazy? Of course.
Yes playing as a defenseless child would make the world bleaker. But to stay in rhythm with TWD universe most everyone stays in groups. What's… more the point of being in a group playing as a defenseless child. It would seem everyone else is dispensing the walkers.
Playing clementine in a me VS the world does not really mesh with the comics or TV show because most of them are in groups.
Playing a child will make the world look more depressing and ruthless thats for sure, but then again was that the way to do it? i mean we could play a guy in wheelchair that has Tourette's that would definetly make things more complicated but not in a good/interesting/smart way.
My opinion is that playing as a much, much more helpless character is only going to make the world feel bleaker. Lee could "knock a couple of … moreheads together " if he had to. Clem can barely reach up to a mans head with a hammer. That posses as serious challenge unless she finds a pistol with a suppressor (always using guns is a bad idea, too much noise).
Remember the "mysterious" image of Clem and another child sitting in the rain? If it's not an urban legend, maybe she's going to lead a kid or a kids' group, before they encounter another group with grown-ups, IDK
Remember the "mysterious" image of Clem and another child sitting in the rain? If it's not an urban legend, maybe she's going to lead a kid or a kids' group, before they encounter another group with grown-ups, IDK
That's just it. My guess is you will start out alone and later on become a part of a small, group, maybe 5 other people at most. Part of the g… moreame will be deciding who you want to join up with who can you trust, etc. You might be traveling with someone who will try to kill you, and you have to run away and loose all of your supplies. Sure, you might find a strong and capable ally, but a bullet to the head can take out a man in his prime. My guess is that there will be more death of everyone around you than in season 1. Hell, even if you are in a group, you will still have to take care of some walkers on your own. Any encounters with walkers will be difficult and intense. In most combat situations, you will have a net disadvantage. It won't be you versus the world, but allies will be few and far between, and not everyone will be sincere. Will their be some people who will stick around and help? Of course. Will there be plenty of people who will stab you in the back? Defiantly. Will some people just be flat out crazy? Of course.
You completely understand what I am trying to say. Just because clementine is a interesting direction does not mean it is the right path. If this game wants to continue to be CANON to TWD universe it has to get darker, scarier, more horrific, more gore, ect ect. It was a huge challenge before TTG announced the PC for season 2. If TTG holds back because the PC is a child this game will take a step backwards.
Playing a child will make the world look more depressing and ruthless thats for sure, but then again was that the way to do it? i mean we coul… mored play a guy in wheelchair that has Tourette's that would definetly make things more complicated but not in a good/interesting/smart way.
Remember the "mysterious" image of Clem and another child sitting in the rain? If it's not an urban legend, maybe she's going to lead a kid or a kids' group, before they encounter another group with grown-ups, IDK
The decision has been made. And there is absolutely nothing you can do but suck it up or stop playing the game. Everyone wanted Clem to be the new protagonist, not only for S2 but for the future seasons as well. She's the Rick of the game so deal with it or leave which would be a great idea because you're annoying the crap out of us. We heard you the first time, CiscoKidd81. There is no reason to repeat the same thing over and over again! God...
There are what, 3 people that don't want Clem to be the new protagonist? I just hope TTG is not going to change their minds because of a meaningless vocal minority. Millions of fans would be more than just dissapointed if we get to play as Clem for the 1st episode only.
All the time. I know. I'm saying that's going to change in this season. While I doubt there will be as much walker fighting in the next season, my guess is that Clementine will insist on helping out. The player might not get a choice in the matter (such as in episode 1 where Lee automatically decides to save the girl in the hotel room who turns out to be bitten.) After months (if not over a year) of surviving on her own, she isn't going to like being told what to do.
@michael7123
Name me how many times Lee or one of the other adults took care of the walkers in season 1???
Yes clementine showed up here and there but for the most part she stayed behind and played with color chalk.
I wouldn't say everyone wanted to play Clem (there were people speaking out against the idea of having Clem as the new PC long before it was ever confirmed), but the sad fact is, Telltale was going to piss somebody off no matter what they chose to do. They probably felt a lot like Lee when he was stuck in the meat locker with Kenny and Lily. One of them was going to hate your guts before the day was over, simply because neither side could understand (or was willing to understand) the perspective of the other.
The decision has been made. And there is absolutely nothing you can do but suck it up or stop playing the game. Everyone wanted Clem to be the… more new protagonist, not only for S2 but for the future seasons as well. She's the Rick of the game so deal with it or leave which would be a great idea because you're annoying the crap out of us. We heard you the first time, CiscoKidd81. There is no reason to repeat the same thing over and over again! God...
There are what, 3 people that don't want Clem to be the new protagonist? I just hope TTG is not going to change their minds because of a meaningless vocal minority. Millions of fans would be more than just dissapointed if we get to play as Clem for the 1st episode only.
@wyatt#1
Sorry but this is another example of why a child should NOT be the PC in TWD. You can't limit the TWD universe anything goes pretty much,
If you were controlling Lee there would be no limits on what could happen.
I was surprised and nervous that they chose Clem at first. After I thought about it for a while, I realized how telltale could really make this work. This has a lot of potential, but it could fail horribly. However, I trust Telltale to make the game amazing.
I wouldn't say everyone wanted to play Clem (there were people speaking out against the idea of having Clem as the new PC long before it was e… morever confirmed), but the sad fact is, Telltale was going to piss somebody off no matter what they chose to do. They probably felt a lot like Lee when he was stuck in the meat locker with Kenny and Lily. One of them was going to hate your guts before the day was over, simply because neither side could understand (or was willing to understand) the perspective of the other.
there is a faked picture of it on the web, the original had been seen on e3 or comic con (or another convention, don't remember) this summer, but several press representatives (e.g. IGN) said there was such a picture (" Clem and another child sitting in the rain"), yet nobody has ever made a picture of it, unfortunately. This is why I am speaking of a mysterious "legend"
The decision has been made. And there is absolutely nothing you can do but suck it up or stop playing the game. Everyone wanted Clem to be the… more new protagonist, not only for S2 but for the future seasons as well. She's the Rick of the game so deal with it or leave which would be a great idea because you're annoying the crap out of us. We heard you the first time, CiscoKidd81. There is no reason to repeat the same thing over and over again! God...
There are what, 3 people that don't want Clem to be the new protagonist? I just hope TTG is not going to change their minds because of a meaningless vocal minority. Millions of fans would be more than just dissapointed if we get to play as Clem for the 1st episode only.
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It should not be toned down. I hope telltale writes a great story and don't listen to clem fanboys and girl.
We will know soon enough in episode 1.
This single decision could be great or devastating for the TTG TWD franchise.
I liked Nate :P he's the anti-hero walking dead needs. I would loev to see him again in season 2, eevn if we have to kill him or something after, but I agree he has a good side, he just goes all psycho eyes over some stuff :P
Agreed.
As for the huge fan of season 1 that I am, I still have such doubts about the whole idea of playing as Clementine, that since a demo will probably be released at the same time -at least- as the episode, I'll download the demo first to try it. From then it could go either way, I may be hooked on the spot once again, but I could also very well decide not to acquire the episode, and quit TWD in order not to waste my excellent memories of season 1.
I cross my fingers, I loved season 1 so much, I want to love season 2...
I completely agree. I will wait until I see how episode 1 plays out before I get the season pass for the 2nd season.
I kind of have to agree with OP.
While yes,I am very excited to play as Clem....it can't take of my mind the fact that she is a child.As OP said,playing as Lee (adult) allowed for many options.
Clem....damn,Clem is 10,max 11.If she was 15,16 that would be fine,as by the time she is that old she would much more grown up.But according to the pictures (she does look older,I can't say) she isn't that older then at the end of S1.Alright,she isn't that childish,but unless she somehow magically became super mature over the course of a few months (Season 1-Season 2),I can't see her making difficult decisions as Lee did.And TT does mention that the choices will be harder,and even confirmed story branching (logically according to our choices).
But,I trust TT will pull this off the best way they can,just as they did S1 and picked up all the praise along the way. :P
This.Ain't letting my hype down,but still....
Anti-hero might be a stretch. After all, he didn't have to kill the old couple. While I appreciate the "you try to kill us, we take you out" mentality, the old guy's story made sense. He could have put the rifle in the parking lot, taken some food, and driven off.
Either way, I hope he shows up somewhere.
I like the change of pace. New opportunities for decisions and scenarios without repeating the same situations from Season 1, or the other Walking Dead series. Season 1 was like playing a surrogate for Rick, now Season 2 will be like playing a surrogate for Carl. Totally different mindsets. It would have been really lame to just have Season 2 feature another really nice, friendly stranger who adopts Clem. This method gives Season 2 a fresh direction while keeping all the Clementine fans happy. A good compromise imo.
Telltale will pull this off, I find that playing as Clementine is a step forward you get to continue her story and also see the apocalypses from the eyes of a child which is very interesting. This is something that is not implemented into most games these days, I know that they did it in the last of us for a short time but I don't see what the big deal is with that game it's just another bland cover shooter ...
I think the fact that every single image of season 2 so far has been at night says a lot. Even though the thought of anything happening to Clem horrifies me, I want that dark ambiance too. I think playing as Clem will make every thing much more bleak.
Think about it:
You are probably alone, and have been for months.
While you are smart and a good shot, you can't really rely on physical strength.
A lot of people might try to manipulate you or flat out try and kill you because you are an easy target.
Everyone she has ever cared about is either dead or missing.
That's bleak enough. Even though the Clem from season 1 was bright and optimistic, a lot of her innocence will probably be gone now. This game has a potential to be very dark.
I just really hope they don't kill Clementine.
I never said playing as clementine would not be fun. But for a entire season? I want to be able to chop some dudes legs off or beat the hell out of Kenny so he knows his kid is 1 step from the grave..... None of that is possible playing a clementine....
inb4 there's a scene where you have to shoot Nate and nate fans become the new kenny fans, speculating how Nate is still alive "Oh well the bullet didn't hit him right. waaa"
Stuff like that could still happen. It's entirely possible that part of the gameplay will be convincing other players to team up with you. While you might not be beating the crap out of people, nothing is stopping you from convincing other characters to do it for you.
And besides this game isn't about combat, it's about character development. Granted, that often involves combat, but still.
I think that this is going to be an interesting turn for TWD, and considering TTG's track record for not fucking things up, I doubt Season 2 will dissapoint. Sure, Clem's going to be limited in what she can do as a child but there's always other ways around it. That walker blocking your exit could be distracted by throwing a bottle into a nearby alleyway, for instance, and as a child there's even some opportunities which are now available that wouldn't be found with an adult, like being able to move into smaller spaces. And I could be wrong but something tells me that TTG aren't going to try and re-use a similar kind of ending like they did for Episode 5. If something bad does happen to Clem, then it'll probably be done in a different kind of way. TTG has earned its trust and respect that much, at least.
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@gamerguy09 "Think about it like this, imagine playing the first season as Clementine. Imagine how crazy awesome that would be? I can tell that this game is going to be great, anyone who thinks otherwise is crazy."
You do realize how stupid people look when they call someone crazy just because their opinion differ from his own.
Also no and in all honesty i probably wouldn't have played season 1 if they outright put me in the shoes of an 8 yo girl surviving in a zombie apocalypse (because that sounds fucking stupid).
Your idea is somewhat along the lines of, Would you like a TWD season entirely about Carl? see how bad that sounds? might as well just rename the show to the adventures of Carl in zombietopia.
Okay.... We will just have to wait until the first episode to see. One of my worries is that the PC will always be alone like Elle was in the last of us.
Being alone like in The Last of Us is not the same as playing TWD and begins to shy away what made the first game great.. I'm not going to pretend to know the comic world but the show I have watched a bunch. Rick just got done saying that strength was in numbers last episode. People are the best defense from walkers.... Every walking dead television episode was pretty much a group effort.
I feel that The only direction we can go in playing as clementine is more of The Last Of Us and less of what we expect from TWD universe.
Someone posted playing as clementine is like playing as Carl..... I don't want to play a TWD game as Carl. Carl is just another member of the group he follows what Rick says to do. Walkers broke in last episode where did Rick send Carl.. Over to the tower to be safe......
I would rather play the PC of a adult who goes in to the cell blocks to kill the walkers. Not be a child sent up to the tower to be safe....
I have to wonder if TTG thought this through from the beginning or if playing a so clementine was decided after they already killed Lee off.
Clementine didn't "sit in the tower" when she wasn't able to take care of herself (remember how she came out to the river to the and help you in episode 4?) She will be getting stuff done.
Secondly, while I think you might start off alone, you might form a group around yourself over time. People are the best defense against other people, but you have to be careful who you trust. Some people might not hesitate to stab you in the back, even though helping you could benefit them more in the long term.
It's like the prisoners dilemma:
Two people are brought in for robbing a store. The police know that they are both guilty, but don't have enough evidence to prove it in court. However, they do have enough evidence to convict them on a smaller charge. The police isolate each person and tell them they have two options, rat the other guy out, or stay silent.
It is most beneficial for both to stay quiet and take the 6 month sentence. However, most of the time, they both will talk. They have the short term benefit possibly spending 3 months less in prison, and if they don't talk, they could spend 5 years in jail.
If other survivors don't backstab each other (and turn out to be competent), it would benefit them both the most to work together in the long term. However, the small gain in the short term (more supplies from whoever you back stabbed) is going to prevent many people from working together.
TL; DR you, as a child, probably need other people to survive in the long term. Adults might just see you as a burden. If adults have trouble working with each other, convincing them to work with a child is going to be a challenge. However, if you show how useful you are, they might be willing to work with you (maybe even take orders from you, but that's unlikely).
Man I'm so torn over this!! I do trust TTG. I do... I don't want to seem like a broken record but this direction for season 2 might be harder then TTG realized. Even from what I have seen about the comics over at Wikipedia I just could not see playing as Carl when Rick is the group leader. Call me old fashion but I would rather play as the group leader then a follower.
I think TTG should have allowed Lee's brother to live. Instead of finding the brother outside as a walker, find his bloody jacket with pharmacy keys in it letting Lee wonder if he is still alive.
That would have given wiggle room to start season 2 as clementine for episode 1 then meet up with Lees's brother who takes to protecting clementine. That would give you a strong leader PC to play the rest of the season. I can see playing as a teenager but TTG set clementine up too young to be a teenager this season. I could have seen playing as clementine in season 3.
We're straying off the topic I started thought. I wanted to see how TTG could make a darker TWD universe with the PC as Clementine. Since this game is CANON with the comics and tv show it gets darker as it goes. More killing. More gory. More walkers. I really think the task for TTG to raise the bar was hard already for season 2 before we knew who the PC was.
My opinion is that playing as a much, much more helpless character is only going to make the world feel bleaker. Lee could "knock a couple of heads together " if he had to. Clem can barely reach up to a mans head with a hammer. That posses as serious challenge unless she finds a pistol with a suppressor (always using guns is a bad idea, too much noise).
Yes playing as a defenseless child would make the world bleaker. But to stay in rhythm with TWD universe most everyone stays in groups. What's the point of being in a group playing as a defenseless child. It would seem everyone else is dispensing the walkers.
Playing clementine in a me VS the world does not really mesh with the comics or TV show because most of them are in groups.
That's just it. My guess is you will start out alone and later on become a part of a small, group, maybe 5 other people at most. Part of the game will be deciding who you want to join up with who can you trust, etc. You might be traveling with someone who will try to kill you, and you have to run away and loose all of your supplies. Sure, you might find a strong and capable ally, but a bullet to the head can take out a man in his prime. My guess is that there will be more death of everyone around you than in season 1. Hell, even if you are in a group, you will still have to take care of some walkers on your own. Any encounters with walkers will be difficult and intense. In most combat situations, you will have a net disadvantage. It won't be you versus the world, but allies will be few and far between, and not everyone will be sincere. Will their be some people who will stick around and help? Of course. Will there be plenty of people who will stab you in the back? Defiantly. Will some people just be flat out crazy? Of course.
Playing a child will make the world look more depressing and ruthless thats for sure, but then again was that the way to do it? i mean we could play a guy in wheelchair that has Tourette's that would definetly make things more complicated but not in a good/interesting/smart way.
i hope their's no attempted rape
Remember the "mysterious" image of Clem and another child sitting in the rain? If it's not an urban legend, maybe she's going to lead a kid or a kids' group, before they encounter another group with grown-ups, IDK
I thought about that... But that would almost be like lord of the flies or the goodies meets zombies...
@wyatt#1
Sorry but this is another example of why a child should NOT be the PC in TWD. You can't limit the TWD universe anything goes pretty much,
If you were controlling Lee there would be no limits on what could happen.
@michael7123
Name me how many times Lee or one of the other adults took care of the walkers in season 1???
Yes clementine showed up here and there but for the most part she stayed behind and played with color chalk.
@robosheriff
You completely understand what I am trying to say. Just because clementine is a interesting direction does not mean it is the right path. If this game wants to continue to be CANON to TWD universe it has to get darker, scarier, more horrific, more gore, ect ect. It was a huge challenge before TTG announced the PC for season 2. If TTG holds back because the PC is a child this game will take a step backwards.
Link?
The decision has been made. And there is absolutely nothing you can do but suck it up or stop playing the game. Everyone wanted Clem to be the new protagonist, not only for S2 but for the future seasons as well. She's the Rick of the game so deal with it or leave which would be a great idea because you're annoying the crap out of us. We heard you the first time, CiscoKidd81. There is no reason to repeat the same thing over and over again! God...
There are what, 3 people that don't want Clem to be the new protagonist? I just hope TTG is not going to change their minds because of a meaningless vocal minority. Millions of fans would be more than just dissapointed if we get to play as Clem for the 1st episode only.
All the time. I know. I'm saying that's going to change in this season. While I doubt there will be as much walker fighting in the next season, my guess is that Clementine will insist on helping out. The player might not get a choice in the matter (such as in episode 1 where Lee automatically decides to save the girl in the hotel room who turns out to be bitten.) After months (if not over a year) of surviving on her own, she isn't going to like being told what to do.
I wouldn't say everyone wanted to play Clem (there were people speaking out against the idea of having Clem as the new PC long before it was ever confirmed), but the sad fact is, Telltale was going to piss somebody off no matter what they chose to do. They probably felt a lot like Lee when he was stuck in the meat locker with Kenny and Lily. One of them was going to hate your guts before the day was over, simply because neither side could understand (or was willing to understand) the perspective of the other.
Pretty sure they would never have Lee get raped, either.
I was surprised and nervous that they chose Clem at first. After I thought about it for a while, I realized how telltale could really make this work. This has a lot of potential, but it could fail horribly. However, I trust Telltale to make the game amazing.
In the description of the trailer, it clearly mentions that several months have passed since the events of season 1. At most, she is 10 years old.
there is a faked picture of it on the web, the original had been seen on e3 or comic con (or another convention, don't remember) this summer, but several press representatives (e.g. IGN) said there was such a picture (" Clem and another child sitting in the rain"), yet nobody has ever made a picture of it, unfortunately. This is why I am speaking of a mysterious "legend"
shes not rick, nope thats lee but he dead. shes the carl