How Clem's age could impact the story in season 2

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  • edited October 2013

    First of all, nice one. That in of it self seems funny. I get it.

    Now imagine this scenario:

    Random ball cap guy in above is hunting a deer in the woods. A walker manages to sneak up behind him and tries to take a bite out of him. Clem manages to kill the walker before ball cap guy gets bit.

    Now imagine what you would do if you where the random guy. If you where being an asshole, you would shoot her for the remaining bullets in her gun. If you had a shred of a soul, you'd at least say thanks. If you felt generous, you might offer her something as a token of thanks, maybe some of he deer you where hunting or some ammo. If you where being pragmatic, you might ask her to join you if you had enough supplies . After all, she might be useful to have around and watch your back. It wouldn't just be charity, it would benefit you most in the long run.

    It's not about respecting authority, its about usefulness. Clem would be useful to have around. She is smart, a good shot, and probably won't kill you because you have two bullets on you.

    Edit:

    Also, your picture kinda says what I've been talking about. People aren't going to listen to her because she is just a kid. She is going to have to go out of her way to prove how useful she is and why people should take her seriously. I predict that's going to be a major part of the story in season 2.

  • And prove it we shall. :)

    Michael7123 posted: »

    First of all, nice one. That in of it self seems funny. I get it. Now imagine this scenario: Random ball cap guy in above is hunting a d

  • Yes, I've been thinking alike, had this kind of scenario in my head

    Michael7123 posted: »

    First of all, nice one. That in of it self seems funny. I get it. Now imagine this scenario: Random ball cap guy in above is hunting a d

  • I won't allow Clem to get in another Clem-Lee relationship. Clems gonna be a hardass mo fooker.

  • Are you talking to me mate =) ?
    'cause if it is, i know...
    I was just making fun of the ben's fan boy .

  • Or "encore plus noir" Christa dies at 4-5 month because of her "undead child to be born, which is litteraly eating her from inside", Omid lose Christa. In some ways he meet with kenny (in the community?), and there are the two guys at the end of chapter 5. =D

    Michael7123 posted: »

    Realistic possibility: Christa and Omid wind up in a settlement before Christa gives birth. Lets assume that she is 3 months into her pregn

  • edited November 2013

    you are not really wrong, 'cause if telltale wants to be realistic, i dont think that showing a fight against clem and a fully grown adult will do it...

    i think i'm going to feel more vulnerable. I mean with Lee you were strong enough to push the walkers off you, and punch etc, if you weren't

  • In this picture i only see clementine telling her story.
    Maybe she used to steal to a group to survive and then she get caught ?
    So the guys took her and they are questionning her?
    Maybe she passe out and someone bring her there and she is again, being questionned ?
    Or even more sadistical, she was in the wood, and then she felt into a hole trap. Hole trap placed there by those guys. Some zombie encouter, a night trapped and then they take her to the house. And then she tells her story !

    Michael7123 posted: »

    First of all, nice one. That in of it self seems funny. I get it. Now imagine this scenario: Random ball cap guy in above is hunting a d

  • Never thought about that before. Perhaps entire Season Two will be a story Clementine is telling to someone.

    In this picture i only see clementine telling her story. Maybe she used to steal to a group to survive and then she get caught ? So the guys

  • I don't think that even her wants or even could decide of it !
    It more realistically that she will be underestimate at first, then when they know what happened to her they surely treat her like a kid.

    ruairi46 posted: »

    I won't allow Clem to get in another Clem-Lee relationship. Clems gonna be a hardass mo fooker.

  • FreddeN93FreddeN93 Banned
    edited October 2013

    Our little Clementine being a badass? No, she will still be that reserved, shy, and nervous little girl we care for and love.

  • edited October 2013

    none of what? Getting away through gaps or maybe using traps? I said she wouldn't be able to fight off walkers or other people the way Lee did...

    you are not really wrong, 'cause if telltale wants to be realistic, i dont think that showing a fight against clem and a fully grown adult will do it...

  • Playing as Clem is going to put a whole new spin on interacting with other characters. When Lee spoke, people listened (thanks in part to Dave Fennoy's warm-honey-on-the-ears voice). If Lee decided to abandon Lily or allow her back on the RV, it wasn't as if most of the group was ready to argue. But when Clem speaks up in the middle of a tense sequence, who's going to pay attention to the opinion of a nine-year-old girl in the heat of the moment?

    I have a theory the player will have greater influence over the AFTERMATH of an event, rather than the event itself. For example: If another character murdered someone for whatever reason, they have the potential to either be consumed by, or vindicated from, their guilt, depending on what Clementine says next. Said character will confide their feelings to Clementine, perceiving her to be the "voice of innocence" in this whole mess. If Clem supports or condemns their actions, her words could tip the character towards salvation or madness. It's your choice.

  • Well said.

    Playing as Clem is going to put a whole new spin on interacting with other characters. When Lee spoke, people listened (thanks in part to Dave

  • I wouldn't be surprised if that is part of the game. But honestly, that would rob a lot of player choice. I think over time, people would listen to what she has to say. If you saved someone's life, they probably will value your input a good deal. Yeah you will be able to make people feel guilty over their actions, but that only goes so far.

    Playing as Clem is going to put a whole new spin on interacting with other characters. When Lee spoke, people listened (thanks in part to Dave

  • FreddeN93FreddeN93 Banned
    edited October 2013

    I could imagine we getting a dialogue option to sob or cry over something that just happend during an event, which will affect the characters around her emotionally. In Season One Clementine controled our feelings, this time we can control the characters' feelings. I mean, who couldn't say no to Clementine in Season One. :3

    Playing as Clem is going to put a whole new spin on interacting with other characters. When Lee spoke, people listened (thanks in part to Dave

  • :3 omege right clementine is so kawai desu

    FreddeN93 posted: »

    I could imagine we getting a dialogue option to sob or cry over something that just happend during an event, which will affect the characters

  • You meanie ;)

    RoboSheriff posted: »

    omege right clementine is so kawai desu

  • I really hope that the things Lee teaches Clem in the first season will affect season 2. After all, that was the point of the game, to teach Clementine how to survive in a post-apocalyptic world. Will she use her age to take advantage of people, will she deal honestly or steal what she needs? I really hope some choices will be catered toward choices that have already been made. For example, if you teach Clementine that stealing is wrong then when the situation arises, it won't even be an option. However, if you teach her you have to do what you have to do to survive, even if it hurts someone else, different options will come up.

    Her age will make a huge impact, I hope. She'll be wise beyond her years, but regardless of what she's seen and been through, kids are going to make dumb choices. She may be more easily tricked. She may be quick to fear people, but just as quick to trust them. It'll be interesting to say the least.

  • Perhaps wiser or more confident, but I'm sure she still is that reserved and nervous little girl.

    Pyreflie posted: »

    I really hope that the things Lee teaches Clem in the first season will affect season 2. After all, that was the point of the game, to teach C

  • I agree, all that would do is made season 1 look weak.

    ruairi46 posted: »

    I won't allow Clem to get in another Clem-Lee relationship. Clems gonna be a hardass mo fooker.

  • Makes no sense. she will have to prove herself not be cute or shy, rip Chuck and Lee

    FreddeN93 posted: »

    Our little Clementine being a badass? No, she will still be that reserved, shy, and nervous little girl we care for and love.

  • edited October 2013

    love how she has a picture of lee, really shows how much he meant to her but I see how her age will be seen as a weakness to other survivors and they might see her as a mouse so to speak.

  • FreddeN93FreddeN93 Banned
    edited October 2013

    Yes, she will prove herself indeed. But NOT by trying to be a "badass". If you get my point. I'm just saying she still have her personality which will make things interesting when it comes to that part of proving herself.

    Makes no sense. she will have to prove herself not be cute or shy, rip Chuck and Lee

  • I like that picture too.

    love how she has a picture of lee, really shows how much he meant to her but I see how her age will be seen as a weakness to other survivors and they might see her as a mouse so to speak.

  • edited November 2013

    I'm curious if they will go down the pedophile road where someone tries to take advantage of her. Hope not, unless their is the option of execution afterwords by crucifixion perhaps?

  • what?

    none of what? Getting away through gaps or maybe using traps? I said she wouldn't be able to fight off walkers or other people the way Lee did...

  • yes, you can just prove yourself by being clever or useful... No need to be a terminator for that !

    FreddeN93 posted: »

    Yes, she will prove herself indeed. But NOT by trying to be a "badass". If you get my point. I'm just saying she still have her personality which will make things interesting when it comes to that part of proving herself.

  • I will be very angry if that was the case... in a world where there is no more innocence but just the fact to be alive, it would be very superficial to give the judging role to a 9 year child...
    Things that you are saying can break the entire twd game...
    No no... At least if she sticks with only one or two persons, why not. But int this case why putting Clementine as a PC ?
    No no !! I think that this season will be more social (not meaning less action !), so the choice that you will make about how you want your clementine to behave will directly affect the way npc will see you and will react to you. I am sure that there will be something like being friend some npc of your choice.

    Playing as Clem is going to put a whole new spin on interacting with other characters. When Lee spoke, people listened (thanks in part to Dave

  • dont forget she is a kid, so she is easier to manipulate.
    If she encounter someone like nate, i think that it will be possible that she grows as an insensitive bastard.
    Because even if Lee was a major encounter in her life, it only last less than a year.
    And she knows that Lee was not "mistake-proof".

    Pyreflie posted: »

    I really hope that the things Lee teaches Clem in the first season will affect season 2. After all, that was the point of the game, to teach C

  • Like a pedophile in a zombie apocalypse will be crucified ?
    First if he is never discovered he will never die... Not defending Evil, but reality teach you that it is not always the good guy who stay alive...
    Please destroy that manicheist vision of the world..

  • FreddeN93FreddeN93 Banned
    edited November 2013

    Really? This is... tearing. Please remind yourself that you're talking about a child. Such speculations as the one above are terrible to even be thinking.

  • What even... It's an adult game I am curious if they will go down that route. Many games have this sort of thing in the game. Why does this make you tear? It's no different from the farmers going to eat clementine in episode two. They are both equally fucked..

    FreddeN93 posted: »

    Really? This is... tearing. Please remind yourself that you're talking about a child. Such speculations as the one above are terrible to even be thinking.

  • If that's so . Season 1 means nothing if she will just forget Lee, nonsense

    dont forget she is a kid, so she is easier to manipulate. If she encounter someone like nate, i think that it will be possible that she grow

  • This is all I want from Season 2.

    One entire episode, where Clementine has just been abandoned in the previous one, and walks the rode alone. And her only way to safely make it to where she is going? Hop in a car with a hard-headed stranger in a truck wearing a baseball cap, and blasting Dan Sartain. That's right. We need a Nate episode.

  • Are you sure ?
    I see it differently...
    Lee was a great guy, cared for her and all. But past is past... Staying in the past when present want to eat your brain is not something that you can do... I think that Clementine his still a child in her mind, even if she killed the stranger, even if she killed Lee.
    I think that this new season will be about how clementine will grow psychologicaly. And our goal might be to direct this grow, which will go through new encounter, socialisation and realizing that not only zombie are bad in this new world, but human's are too.
    I know that some can say that she learn that in season 1, she never was the victim. She was a spectator in season 1, in season 2 she will be the true actor of her destiny and also the victim !

    If that's so . Season 1 means nothing if she will just forget Lee, nonsense

  • FreddeN93FreddeN93 Banned
    edited November 2013

    Nate and Clementine, in the same car? Are you kidding me? I wouldn't let Nate near Clementine, at least I won't if I see him in the game.

  • I'm conflicted about if I want to see Clementine and Nate together in a group. I know Nate is a bit of a psyco, but he has a good side. He didn't have to offer russel a ride, and he didn't kill Russell for disagreeing with him about the old couple. He only chased after Eddie and Wyatt because Eddie shot one of his friends, so Eddie could be seen as the villan in that story. On top of that, I agree with the mentality of "you try to kill us for no reason, we take you out, " and I would have stuck around with him if the older couple wasn't acting presumably in self defense.

    Clementine and Nate would be great character foils from a story perspective too. And even though he is extremely crude, he doesn't strike me as being a pedo in any way.

    Still, if I see a truck with a headlight busted, I'm running. It would probably be for the best.

    FreddeN93 posted: »

    Nate and Clementine, in the same car? Are you kidding me? I wouldn't let Nate near Clementine, at least I won't if I see him in the game.

  • Aye I want a strong Nate - Clementine relationship. Clem and him not gonna take no shit from no one, but they might watch out for each other...?

    Michael7123 posted: »

    I'm conflicted about if I want to see Clementine and Nate together in a group. I know Nate is a bit of a psyco, but he has a good side. He di

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