dont you just hate how.....
people wont let kenny die? he was a POS backstabber anyway and if TT makes the mistake of cheapening his "heroic" death scene I for one will be really disappointed. His arc is finished and needs no fixing, leave it be Telltale!!! After all it's the walking dead if you can't handle death go play something else. Although I have to admit, his mustash (sp) was pretty awesome.
here comes the wave of downvotes from all the people who want manlove from kenny
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It's true I do man love Kenny, lol though you do have a right to ur appinion, we agree on one thing his muchtache was epic!
EDIT: this comment was ment to be a joke.
I really don't understand why you hate Kenny so much, I have to agree he could be an ass sometimes but he wasn't that much of a backstabbing dirt bag. Yes I did kill Larry so I probably had a bit of a break from his spiteful moods and hate, but come on. Don't mistake me for team Kenny by the way, I can see his flaws and how he only looks out for those he trusts he was like Larry with a stache in my opinion and I liked them both. I don't know about it cheapening the narrative and his "heroic death", he made a huge speech about suicide and a speech about helping people in both scenarios. I think he could of escaped in both scenarios but something logical like finding a window, not a heroic rescue from Molly or conveniently finding a man hole. Anyway I would love to see more of his character because he was generally a nice guy depending on how you look at it but if he dies then he went out like a hero and he'll be remembered.
eww. and it's pretty pathetic to want manlove from a fictional video game character. no offence, just saying.
And yes I just wanted to stir up the forum, it's pretty dead this time of day.
EDIT: I appreciate you recognising people are allowed to have their own opinions.
People would've let Kenny die if Telltale actually made his death clear. The thing is, they didn't, and they let his fate ambiguous on purpose.
He's going to appear on season 2, be it alive or dead. You can't blame people for throwing theories as to how he could have survived because that's exactly what Telltale wanted when they removed all the clues that would point at a clear death (no death scream, Christa couldn't see anything, Lost instead of Dead).
Besides, I don't see how bringing him back alive would turn his "heroïc" action into a "meh". That's like saying even though Superman saved the Earth it wasn't heroïc because he didn't die in the process, that's honestly beyond stupid.
Personally I'm just eagerly waiting for Telltale to explain how it went, one way or the other.
Also, who would downvote someone for giving his opinion ? That sounds a lot like Youtube level.
Just change woman to mustache
Weirder things have happened in TWD than Kenny surviving that, i mean have you ever read the comics? remember when Tyreese got locked in that room filled with zombies and lived a day(i think it's been a while since i read the comics) in there and came out just fine? i think Kenny has a slim but fairly possible chance of being alive.
-Wants people to understand he has his own opinion.
-Can't understand people who like Kenny.
Kind contradicting yourself, huh? I sided with everything that Kenny said because I believed in it. And if he doesn't show up in S2, I'll be surprised. We wont let him go because unlike Lee, Shawn, Duck, Katjaa, etc; his death wasn't SHOWN, nor was it CLEAR. That's why people are making theories of him being alive. And I hope they're true.
I don't want man love from him lol! Like I ment like in my play through he and lee were bros
My opinion is that Kenny was a great friend, and practically a brother to my Lee. While I understand that he could be a (huge) ass, he really wasn't in my game. If you hate him, that's fine, but plenty of us like Kenny and DO want to see him again in some way, if just to learn what happened to him. I don't think very many want him to be a permanent group member like he was in Season 1, just an appearance or explanation of what really DID happen to him so we can finally get some closure on the fate of one of, IMO, the best characters of Season 1.
Fairly slim chance. Tyreese was very strong and was built quite heavily. Kenny is poor on hand-to-hand combat. He (determinately) gets his ass handed to him by Molly, Larry, and a group of elderly cancer survivors.
I'm guessing that Telltale is going to show Kenny as a walker to really bring out the emotional stress and trauma to Clem. We'll probably have a choice to shoot him in the head or not.
It really isn't black or white. He isn't a complete douchebag person but he isn't any saint either. That is something The Walking Dead does very well- polarizing people's opinions based on a character that is truly gray, or "in the middle". Kenny does some morally questionable things. Examples: Killing Larry when it wasn't certain he died (in my play through Larry took a breath just before his head got smashed- I believe it can happen if you do the commands quick enough), claiming Lee never helped him even if he did, and handling situations with his emotions rather than thinking them through logically. He also can be a pretty cool guy. Examples: Even if you didn't try to save Duck, he will still offer you a ride to Macon, he saves you at the drugstore despite your relationship, and he always puts Katjaa and Duck before himself. This applies to other characters that divide players too- Lily, Ben, Larry (albeit not as much), and Christa. About Kenny's ambiguous sacrifice in the fifth episode, one must ALWAYS consider this rule in any of The Walking Dead media: Someone is only dead if you explicitly see the corpse or an otherwise not survivable injury such as what happened to Carley. Someone being bitten pretty much always applies to the "going to die" category, but there are some exceptions such as Dale in the comics and Hershel in the show. I will say that it doesn't seem very likely that he would have survived. But it is possible-.
I think YOURE dead in the head..
Tyreese in the comic survive a room fille with walkers. In the show Tyreese survived 7,500 walkers. It was confirmed that was the amount of the herd. I'm pretty sure with an obvious large room most likely with a door in it and a alley filled with windows(Kenny ran offscreen the direction of the windows were in) he could've made it out.
LMAO!!!! 7500? try like 5-10. just because there were 7500 walkers in the scene doesn't automatically mean they were all after him. 99.9% of them were extremely far away and didn't even know Tyrese was there. Tyrese also is a big guy, AND had his weapon of choice. Not to mention he was in a wide open area.
Kenny on the other hand hadbout the same amount of walkers, but is a scrawny guy who gets his ass kicked constantly in the game (even by molly) and was unarmed. Kenny was closed in with no escape, there is no windows, otherwise there would have been light shining in. (in the walkie scenario) I guess there could have been a door, but there's no proof of any door, or any way out in either scenario.
You simply can't compare Tyrese's scenario to Kenny's, It's completely different. But I know what your trying to say. It's just rediculously unlikely he got away unharmed. If they bring Kenny back they might as well bring Lee back and say he's immune and that Clem missed, seeing as it would basically be the same thing as Kenny being resurrected. After all, I don't think there was anything saying that Lee actually died at the end.
Kenny actually had plenty of bullets in the walkie scenario. In the Ben version, where he has one bullet, in the walkie version he has AT LEAST 4. As for getting his ass kicked "even by Molly", stats of Episode 4 actually show that a little over 85% of players got their asses kicked by her too, and since she's basically a ninja, it's not surprising. Plus, we see him kill 2 walkers without firing a shot in the Ben version, so we KNOW that he doesn't need bullets to kill them. As for saying "there is no proof of any door"... think. Just think. When was the last time you were in a room with no doors. Most rooms do, in fact, have doors. I think it's entirely possible for him to have survived the Christa version, which is the one that I had in my game.
As for the Ben version, I think he died there. I can't see any way out, barring an open sewer or broken window or some such.
The rule is on Hollywood and most videogames is that they aren't dead until you see the body.
I felt like Kenny was really misunderstood. I really think he and Lee could have been more succesful if they split up from the motor inn gang earlier on.
That seems pretty unlikely. Why would Clem go back to Savannah? She didn't know about Kenny going missing so she wouldn't go looking for him, and if she meets up with Omid in the first episode of season 2 she is obviously pretty far away from Savannah.
It was not 7500 more like 150 AT MOST.
no he doesn't have bullets... he even says so shortly before that. And in the Ben scenario he doesn't kill any walkers, not a single one. He only pushes one or two away before running off screen. When I was talking about the door thing I should've said a door could be locked, there would probably be at least as many walkers on the other side if it was even open. Sorry to burst your bubble.
Whether the kenny superfans want to believe it or not, it's extremely likely he is dead. It's TWD. People die. Face it, it's 99.9999999999999% probable he's dead, and he should stay that way.
Your barking up the wrong tree posting stuff like that to me. And all you kenny superfans who want buttlove with him will NEVER convince me he should be alive. Only Telltale has a chance at doing that. Who knows maybe TT is dumb enough to resurrect him and nullify his "hero" scene, and destroy what was a great character arc.
watch the scene again, it's not even nearly that much. Only like 5-10 are actually going after him.
You know you have the unpopular opinion on these forums when you get a wave of downvotes for the most likely scenario in the universe in the walking dead and then get your intelligence insulted. I feel pretty sickened that the first guy who responded too you couldn't even spell "Opinion". Avoiding peoples grammar for now. I agree with you man. I wish people would give this Kenny thing a rest. It's all they care about.
What they going to do if Kenny is dead? quit the series?
haha yea, I know right? I have to admit I get a kick out of the fact that they can't handle that hes probably dead, and that they get so irritated when someone states the facts. Shooting down some of the rediculous theories that come up gets them so mad haha.
Having a strong opinion is one thing but having total devotion no matter what, to a fictional game character is just going overboard.
I will say in some peoples defence though, that english isn't their first language. (the grammar thing)
You know it is possible to have a discussion and not attack people with alternate views from yours. Especially when you use 4chan-esque wordage, nothing to be proud of to be honest.
They're/we're not getting pissed off at you stating that Kenny's probably dead. We're getting pissed off at you calling Kenny a backstabber for no good reason and calling his sacrifice cheap. Know who was a "backstabber", if that term has to be used? Lily. Kenny saves your life at the end of Episode 1, even if you're horrible to him. Lily kills Doug/Carley(right in front of Clem) and then(if you take her in the RV with you,) drives away from the group even if you were extremely nice to her.
yeah, Tyreese was a tank but im just saying that it is still possible.
LMAO when did I say his sacrifice is cheap? And actually Kenny leaves you to die if you don't do everything his way. For example if you try to save Shawn instead of duck in the beginning, Kenny leaves you for dead every chance he gets. You being another superfan (probably) wouldn't know that though because you probably always did everything pro-Kenny.
Yea Lilly is a bitch, so what? This thread is about how people can't handle that Kenny should remain dead, not Lilly.
You should really stop saying everyone who points at your flawed logic is a "Kenny fanboy", that's just disrespectful.
Like I said earlier, people discuss this matter because that's what Telltale wants us to do. If they didn't, why bother removing his deathscream, why bother making Christa say she couldn't see anything when she clearly could, why bother making him "Lost" instead of "Dead" like every other character that actually died ? You can't prevent people from thinking he'll come back after all the hassle Telltale went through to make his death as ambiguous as they could.
You're trying to push your opinion on others and just call everyone who doesn't agree with you a fanboy, know what that makes you ? A hater, or a troll, nothing less.
I bet half of the people that throw theories as to how Kenny could have survived are just simply curious to know what happened and are trying to come up with every outcome they can think of and don't even really like him. Quite a number of people in this very thread said they accepted your opinion so why can't you do the same ? That's beyond me.
The only thing annoying about this matter is that people just can't keep all the Kenny is alive discussions in one single thread and keep creating new ones everytime it's not front page, but that's just how forums are.
Getting thumbed down is inevitable in this community. It's full of children who instead of engaging in healthy debate, would rather bitch and whine.
He DOES kill them. He hits them in the face, they fall down, and they don't move. I know walkers are slow and dumb, but if they were alive they would have at least been moving. They weren't. As for saying he doesn't have any bullets, you obviously haven't watched the scene. If you don't pull Christa up immediately, you SEE him shoot three walkers in the head before he runs off. After you pull her up, you hear another gunshot. Three plus one is four, so he DOES have four bullets. We see him use them. Go play that scene again if you don't believe me. As for the door being locked, it COULD be locked. COULD, as in, POSSIBLY. If it's unlocked, well, he turns the knob and runs out. If it is locked, he still has the option of breaking it open, and before you say he can't do that, he does it in Crawford when Ben tells him about the bandits.
Is it possible that he's dead? Totally. Is it certain that he's dead? Not at all. It may be The Walking Dead, where people die, but the circumstances of his "death" in both scenarios is sketchy. While you claim that I forget that people die in TWD, I think that YOU are forgetting one of the basic rules of entertainment: If there is no body, you can't say that they're dead. I, personally, don't believe that Kenny surviving would ruin any aspect of his character arc, or change his final scene in Episode 5 to anything that isn't heroic. It seems to me that you just want Kenny to be dead because you don't like him, which is understandable because he could be a real ass, but that doesn't mean it's impossible for him to have survived.
Stating facts and an opinion is attacking? ummmm okkkkk......
The whole point of this thread was to stir up debate, and it obviously worked. I knew Kenny superfans would feel obligated to jump in and try to say/prove he's alive. If you don't like my opinion so much then just ignore me, it's that simple. And just because I word something in a certain way, (i'm guessing you mean buttlove with kenny) and you get mad about it, just means you can't take a joke or recognise exaggeration.
Did you guys even read his comment? "Tyreese in the comic" Not the fucking show, the comic. The entire gym in the prison was jam-packed with walkers, confirmed to be 7,500. Now you people stay quiet, please.
reading some of the nonsense on this thread today made me laugh. Especially the kenny superfans accusing me of being a troll because in my opinion I think Kenny is dead. Some people on this forum are so childish. * * "I don't like your opinion about Kenny so your a troll!!!" * * Stuff like that only reinforces the fact that some people (paticularly SOME Kenny fans) are childish. They resort to name calling just because they can't handle that every single person doesn't like kenny as much as they do.
I don't care that everyone has their own opinion, that's fine with me. Like who you want, love who you want hate who you want. Just don't try to force your opinion on me. This thread intended to stir up contriversy (sp) but was also obviously directed to get other people like me, who don't want Kenny to come back alive, to speak up and say their opinion. I'm guessing that there are several people out there who agree with me but don't speak up because they get judged and basically attacked by kenny fans who disagree, and don't want to listen to people trying to preach to them to be pro-Kenny. Just because I disagree or can prove someone wrong about something doesn't mean I am attacking them. In most cases if it was about anything else nobody would act the way i'm seeing people act on here just because it's about Kenny, and it only proves my point even further.
You're one to talk about shoving your opinion down peoples throats...
Kenny is best character 0-2013, he should be season 2 protagonist he's probably immune to the infection and is the key to save the human race.
While i don't agree with how negatively you view him, i will say this. I absolutely agree with you that in episode 5 they wrapped up his story arc and made it feel very complete. Whether or not he comes back only hope they don't cheapen by having him in season two purely for the sake of doing so.
Debates about the situation he was left in are pointless since it's basically just telltale's call. if they want him to live he'll live, but everyone has to die eventually in the walking dead and If they think his story was finished up nicely in season 1 then he'll be dead.
Clearly, they made a decision to make Kenny's fate ambiguous in the end, which makes it seem likely to me that they intend to bring him back. I mean, his survival in the alley was unlikely, but even more unlikely was that he would not have been heard screaming horribly as he was torn asunder. I don't think his sacrifice would count any less. Frankly, the literature of every culture is rife with sacrifices that have been commuted at the last minute. It's a story people can generally get behind.
how so? I don't care what anyone chooses to believe. But of course I will state my opinion when people refuse to accept that it's possible he is dead.
rolls eyes another one....
besides your dead now anyway
You basically just said exactly the same thing I was saying in the earlier post, but you like kenny whereas for me he was a character I loved to hate. I'm glad at least one person in here thinks his arc is perfect the way it is and doesn't want to see his redemption cheapened.