Wow doug story such a let down
So i in my first two playthrough i never saved doug i always went for carley. I heard the dough story was pretty good if you keep him... I kept him and i think it actually makes game worse.
- You dont tell people your secret earlier lilly tells people you lied
- Carley felt more involved i could be wrong but i think she had more dialogue and felt more part of group to me
- Felt out place
Just my opinion of course he had some cool tech moments with laser but i think carley is someone ill save 100% of time now that i seen his side and outcome i just dont think its worth it. Save carley you can tell people about your self earlier, i felt her death meant more, lee can have a romance. I was expecting doug to at least be lee best friend but they dont seem close he is hardly a part of anything.
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You might want to add spoilers mate
I agree, Doug seemed like a really cool guy but the game so heavily favored Carley that it practically forces her onto you (which .... isn't that bad when you think about it ... nonono concentrate). I mean, she has MUCH MORE screentime, she has a gun and her survival kit looks better at first glance.
Besides TTG said that they understood why the majority of players saved Carley in an interview Here. It pretty much sums up the reasons in my opinion.
Doug was a fucking hero though if you give him a chance, if you save him he flat out says that he'd have preferred if you saved Carley, he's much more useful than what Episode 1 make us think (dat alarm system) and he sacrifices himself to save Ben. Doug > Great
On the playthroughs I did with Doug I always felt that he was going to develop into a really interesting character further down the line. Then he died before this could happen.
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Yeah, it'd be cool if Lee was able to talk about his dead brother with him, especially considering his somewhat skeptical face when they came back in the drugstore. But no, an opportunity like that was gone. All he does is practically get you out of the motel quicker during the bandit raid and build an alarm system.
Such letdown...much disappointed...wow
Agreed. I wish they had added more content with Doug and also a conversation about Lee's past (so Lee can tell everyone) to make it equal.
Still love Doug
Finding out you couldn't tell the group your secret with Doug in the group killed my interest in saving him entirely. I've seen a Let's Play where Doug was saved, but I doubt I'll ever do one myself knowing that.
Yeah that'd have been much fairer. Besides it's not like Doug knowing about Lee's past is inconceivable, being a dorky guy he probably spend at least some time on the computer (he said he preferred robots though =P) so chances are he might've stumbled upon an article that had Lee's affair as the main topic. Done.
He's still awesome though.
I usually saved Carley. So then I decided that "Eh what the hell, this playthrough I will save Doug". I do not regret it. He added humor, kinda. Like that scene with the biscuits from Brenda St. John.
I kinda do regret not saving him more often though.
Well, there was an unused quest in Episode 1 where Doug was supposed to distract the walkers outside the drugstore with Kenny's truck. Lee's brother was still standing and walking (unlike in the final version) and Lee would have to cut the telephone pole down on him with the axe (of course, the electricity would have to be disabled first coughDougcough).
If they kept it in, I think the ratio of Doug:Carley savers would be much closer than 28%:72%.
Yeah, I'm proud to be with the 23% saving him! I had him on my original playthrough and prefer him to Carly. Yeah you don't get the romance and the choice to tell the group about your past but I'm willing to give all that up for that one chalk line, the lazer pointer and of course the biscuit scene.
So story. Such let down.
Yes, plus his death in EP. 3 was more heroic than Carley's death.
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much die. wow.
Oh for sure, he was a hero from day 1 saving Carly, saving Lee at the farm and we would of never got Larry's pills without his tech skills. Doug really showed he was a asset to the group and how selfless he was in episode 3 saving Ben like that.
can you not do that?
What did call the players saving Carley again...? Something very immature I remember.
quiet,dude. this is not the correct thread to do this in.
Which thread should that be? Just asking.
Very well. I'll let him tell it himself.
Wow, for real ? That sounds awesome ! Why did they left it out in the end ? Was it because the truck would've been lost afterwards and then the group wouldn't have been able to escape the drugstore ?
Man I can't believe they left out something as epic as that ...
I don't understand what's going on above me but it sounds disappointing.
"Doug, I did not know that."
Worth every moment of not being able to tell the group.
I agree that Doug's storyline was insanely weak. Much has been said about how most people only saved Carley because she was a sexy lady with a gun (or if they're more charitable, because Carley was given more dialogue with Lee in the drugstore before the choice happens). But what is seldom stated is that AFTER the choice, Doug says and does almost nothing. Whereas Carley has many engaging character interactions with Lee (and thus, the player) Doug is practically mute. You'd think they'd be able to come up with some fun alternative storylines he could do with gadgetry, but no, he just stands in the background and gives one sentence answers to Lee.
I wonder if during the "RV scene" if, proportionately speaking, more Doug-saving players let Lilly get back on the RV and more Carly-saving players left her on the side of the road. The loss of Doug doesn't seem to elicit the same level of trauma as the loss of Carly.
Clem also seemed to look up to him more, kinda like a big brother. She even says he's cool! Lee at that moment was just as confused with what Doug said about the chalk. Funny thing actually as that fact Doug said actually came in handy, I was out one night and everyone was doing a pub quiz and science question came up. Lets just say that point won me the game
Well I for one was really fucking pissed when Doug died! He was my favorite character some single gadget fixing nerd in a world gone mad that I could relate to and then he gets popped off. I was really pissed at Lilly when that happened and I for one think he went out like a hero, as for Carly dying I only got to see her for a bit in episode one before she got her face chewed off by walkers so not much of an attachment there ....
Well, they could've used Glenn's car but then again, it wouldn't be able to fit everyone.
Oh, and the people above are just mad at me for preferring Doug over Carley. To be honest, they're just derailing the thread.
That would of been nice to see. I thought that they were going to be the couple in the group but that was episode 1 where we thought that most people were safe. How very wrong we were
Yes, it's a shame we didn't get to see or interact with Doug/Carley more.
I saved Doug because he was facing legitimate danger at the time of the choice.
Carley had a gun and was being grabbed by the ankle by, like, one zombie.
Doug was being tugged at through a barricade by several.
I also think that Carley could've tried to stomp on the zombie with her free foot.
Speaking of the RV scene, this was one moment I felt was a lot stronger with Doug than with Carley. For one thing, Lilly accusing Ben actually made sense, unlike her accusing Carley for no reason. Also, abandoning Lilly or not was a much more interesting moral choice with Doug since on one hand, she accidentally killed him, she showed remorse, and she had some kinda-sorta good arguments for kicking out Ben. On the other hand, she did just try to kill someone and was clearly unstable. Opposed to her killing Carley, which was remorseless, ruthless, and senseless.
Well, if one leg is grabbed and the other is wobbling, she would end up falling over.
It's more of Doug's personality: He keeps out of politics around the camp (He tells you this in episode 3) and he says several times that he seems useless because he "isn't big about guns". The reason I favored Doug over Carly is because he had the brains, and smarts in the walker world is scarce. Carly was a good shot, but that was about it. You can give anyone a gun and they will be useful, but Doug is useful in a different way, sadly overlooked by most people. I agree that Telltale should have made him more "bonding" so more people would actually struggle with the Carly/Doug choice.
And most of the things you listed is what he is: He's basically a social outcast, which explains why he felt "out of place" as you put it. And you can't really blame Doug for the lack of the choice to "tell your secret" because he doesn't know himself, whereas Carly (with the exception of Larry & Lily) was the only one who knew. If anything, it made the game accurate by not giving you that choice. If Telltale would have the option for Lee himself to decide whether or not to tell them, it might have changed.
Also, Carly and Doug have almost the same screen time. I think you see it differently because Carly was more bonding (and yes, she had a few more dialog during cut scenes) and her character is a bit more interesting now that you know that she knows your secret.
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