Ask the TTG Community. Why would Tell Tale Games make it Bipolar?
Why did Tell Tall Games make the Dog Bipolar. When you first meet the dog it tries to bite you, but if you sweet talk to it it likes you. After you sweet talk it, the dog takes you to an abandoned camp site. When Clem gets there she tells the dog they must look for food. Clem finds a Frisbee and plays with the dog. A few minutes later Clem finds a can of beans in the garbage. Clem opens it with a knife. The dog comes up to Clem and wants some. Clem gives the dog a hand full of beans, but that isn't enough. Soon the dogs mood turns from happy to angry. The dog bites Clem for not giving him the whole can of beans. I was like WTF? Lol So yea why would they make the dog Bipolar?
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The dog wasn't bipolar. It was a dog. A dog that hadn't eaten in a long time.
I think the dog initially growled because it thought Clementine could be a walker. Then Clementine spoke and he realized it was a human, and humans bring food! Finally! Then Clementine offered him barely a bite of food before taking it away again.
Taking food away from a dog is a common trigger that can make them attack. Not every dog, of course, but we don't know how long he was without food or human contact for that matter.
The dog acted like a dog. One that hasn't eaten in a while. Once Clem took the food away, she was a threat.
OP is inexperienced with dogs... Its how they are.. they get protective over food..
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If it ate walkers (or it didn't get sick from eating one from before), I imagine it would have had no problem eating the one tied to the tree stump. But, it didn't.
Actually the dog didn't act like a dog at all. That scene requires some suspension of disbelief, because it isn't realistic dog behavior.
See only one person agrees with me that the dog was not normal and acted bipolar XD. Dog didn't eat the walker near the tree because clem told it not too
Dogs are only the way they are now because we domesticate them. At their heart, they are animals with teeth made for ripping flesh. I imagine even a Chihuahua would get territorial or aggressive if we deprived it of food and meaningful human contact.
No I don't think it didn't eat it because Clem told it not to, just didn't want it. I thought the campground was where the dog lived considering he was in that picture -- I think --- that Clem found. So yeah, I agree with everyone that said the Dog was just hungry and wanted the whole damn can. Did you see dem ribs?
First post! Whoooo~
"Bipolar" doesn't mean what you think it means.
As an owner of a dog... I disagree... Funny story actually what happend to Clem actually happened to me.. My dog bit my arm over some food that he buried that i had no idea about.. went to pat him and then CRUNCH!.. i had to be careful and tame him after that but its just how dogs are.. they are protective over food and their instincts kick in.
My stepmom was bit by our family dog, Zeus, once for trying to move his food bowl while he was eating.
It's a regular thing, even if it's a longtime owner messing with their food. It isn't guaranteed if the animal really trusts you, but a stranger like Clem denying food to a hungry dog? Yeah, that's likely to result in a bite.
Zombies are no good where meat is concerned; that much should be obvious to any living thing that has senses. Even the freshly-turned look unusually decayed and have discoloured flesh.
The thing that made it unrealistic is that dogs have a whole range of behaviors before they get to full on mauling. They growl, they show teeth, they bark, they raise their hackles, raise their tails, ect. A dog has a whole host of body language or vocalizations that communicate aggression or dominance, and those signals and vocalizations are designed by nature to get the animal what it wants without having to fight for it. Even when dogs attack warning bites are more common than mauling.
"Trainers hear it all the time: "The dog bit me out of the blue, it gave no warning." The truth is all dogs display numerous warnings before they bite. Though the warning signs leading up to a bite can be subtle, they are similar no matter the breed. Facial and body expressions change, placement of the ears change, even the sound of the bark or growl can indicate that a bite is imminent"
http://www.ehow.com/about_6573879_dog-bite-behavior.html#ixzz2nuUlXkqz
So you wanted Telltale to fulfill ehow dog-bite-behavior list and go through all the body language and what now?
Its a dog in a zombie apocalypse, I don't think it needs to follow the lines of ehow, Plus its...a game. It made the scene better. And again, it was hungry and she took food away from it. Then, if you didn't feed it, well, it 'displayed numerous warnings' before it went on the attack
For fuck's sake.
But it growled even when it met her and this isnt a well domesticated well fed dog its starving
This thread is poppin Lol
The dogs ears went back and it clearly growled before right before it bit her.
No, I wanted a scene that wasn't lame.The dog bite scene didn't deliver.
It was the weakest part of the episode, and the defense of the writing that it was realistic behavior from the dog doesn't stand up to scrutiny.
You are aware that you're extremely over analyzing this, yes?
It doesn't stand up to yours and ehow scrutiny?
Maybe I'm taking it simple as possible; it was hunger, therefore, it attacked. Just like humans attacking over the tiniest things to survive.
Also the scene may have been more about trust if anything, like the rest of the episode. Very difficult to trust anything in the world they are living in now. Be it little girls or pregnant ladies.
Pretty much Sam's thought process was:
Taking a dog's food away while it eats is a very dangerous thing to do, after all they're descended from wolves who are incredibly territorial.
If you try to take away food that a dog considers to be his, then he may attack, this is a fact. Not try and kill a person, but at least attack and maybe bite him. The dog was also starving, once he tasted blood he tried to kill Clementine and would have eaten her too. I guess you could explain it that way and it kind of makes sense, but only out of context.
These were the course of actions: The starving dog enjoys playing frisbee (which is of course bullshit). You could pet the dog which means that the dog accepted her. The dog begs for food instead of just taking it, which makes Clementine the alpha (typical pack behavior). Clementine drops the can of beans and trys to pick it up again - The dog freaks out any then and trys to kill her. This is indeed a WTF moment. If you view the situation as a whole and in context, then it doesn't really make sense for the dog to react like he did if you decide to share the food. Not to mention that the dog would not have tried to kill her by just biting her arm, he would have went straight for the jugular and and at least ripped up her pretty little face.
The dog scene was just filler to prepare for the rest of the episode. It is unispired, badly executed and somewhat illogical. Dogs aren't as stupid as the author portrays them. They know damn well that they are better off with a human companion because humans tend to find and also share food. It would have made a lot more sense for a starving ferral dog to just attack Clementine straight away.
apparently some of you saying that's what dogs do, have never owned or seen one or something. Taking food that a dog is already eating is one thing, but A dog will NEVER bite the hand that FEEDS it, no matter how aggressive it may be. (unless trained specificly for that reason which is very uncommon. ie. police dogs) Lazy writing by TT if you ask me.
If it ate walkers it probably would have died a long time ago.
Do you even own a dog? Have you ever really interacted with a dog in a real life? That dogs behavior is very realistic. Try taking food from a untrained/starving dog. See what happens.
Its starving and it didnt bite her when she fed it it bit her when she tried to take the food away from it there's a diffrence
First thing every kid around here learns about dogs is: leave their food alone and don't disturb them while feeding.
it bit her immediately after she put her hand out with food it it, as if trying to "steal" the food... replay it you will see what i mean.
It didn't just try to bite her, it completely freaked out and tried to kill her.
Dogs aren't as stupid as the author portrays them.
exactly what i was trying to say, you just said just it better.
You're citing a really trite idiom to prove your assertion.
Speaking as someone who has seen what happens when you try and take food from a hungry dog, everyone here suggesting the dog's reaction was unrealistic pretty obviously have never tried it.
Taking food from a food aggressive or hungry dog may make it growl and/or snap at you, but in no way would it illicit the lunge and attempt-to-kill reaction we saw from a socialized dog.
The OP is correct in that the dog exhibited some unbelievable behavior. Especially if your Clem took time to socialize with the dog, as mine did.
(The OP is wrong to label the dog as "bipolar," though. Manic depressives are people, not dogs, and they don't suddenly try to murder people for food, either.)
This dog wasn't untrained. It was clearly socialized. And how often have you had a dog lunge at your neck because you tried to take its food?
Yeah, Clem getting bit is believable, but the dog trying to all out kill her while ignoring the food is unbelievable.
a dog will bite you if you try takeing anything from it be it food, a toy, a bone anything that is his.
Dogs aren't humans. They have predictable behavior patterns. Telltale didn't have to do a lot of research to see that the scene was unbelievable, they could have shown it to anyone who works at the local animal shelter. Trust me, they work with starved animals.
A no warning all out kill attack is almost unheard of.
Even though you're getting a lot of thumbs down, I have to say you've made a well-reasoned reply (that I happen to agree with). Some people just don't like their opinions juxtaposed to contrary facts.
The dog attacked her because when she dropped the can in the dogs mind it was giving her the food and then she tried to take away HIS food, she was no longer sharing the food with him she was stealing it from him. That's just how dogs are naturally, a household dog that's trained can lose those instincts but a dog living in the wild for 2+years is going to go back to that state.
If Clementine never dropped the can, she wouldn't have gotten bitten.
It gave her a warning, it even gave her one when you first meet the dog. Clem even noticed the dog growling with she tried to pet it, to me that was the first sign. I'm sorry, yo. We are just going to have to agree to disagree. The scene was believable enough to me; all about trust either way in my eye.
Don't trust dem wild, hungry dogs. 8(