That is the worst doctor ever,of all time.
I have to say this:What kind of a doc can't tell the difference between human teeth and dog teeth?And if that wasn't enough to bug you,they lock Clem in a shed with a deep bite wound that is sure to get infected and ask her to spend the night there.Walker or dog bite,it doesn't matter,she will still get an infection from a cut that deep!That includes the damned fever!
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The doctor sucks nonetheless though.
It sucks but if some random person appeared with a bite you would think it was a walker bite and the precautions they took were fairly necessary in my opinion. It just seems harsh as we are clem
The thing is you can clearly see that the bite is like a fissure, as if the teeth got stuck and Clem pulled her arm away, ripping the skin along, there's no way a human teeth can do that. Only dog's teeth have the shape required and the jaw strength to do something like that. Any doctor worth his salt would've understood that.
That being said I do think he's a real doctor, maybe he just became paranoid to protect his daughter from anything and absolutely doesn't want to take the risk.
Thanks for agreeing ^-^.But Pete and...that other guy(can't remember his name
) said he's a doc.
Agreed. He should at least be able to tell that the bite is not human.Maybe dog, maybe wolf, maybe lion, maybe tiger, maybe dragon, maybe unicorn, whatever.... But not human
And the fever thing bugged me as well. You are bit by a walker, you get a fever and turn. You are bit by a dog and the bite is not taken care of, you get a fever by a "normal" infection and they kill you, because they think you are a walker-to-be. Or you just die by the infection and become a walker that way.
Reminded me of the witch trials in the dark ages. Where women accused of witchhood were thrown into the river with a rock bound to them. If they drowned, they were not witches. Great for them...
If they somehow didn't drown, it was "proven" that they were witches and therefore they had to be burned. That's how that situation felt for me.
I love the witch trials touch you made there
The interesting thing is this:
IF he really is a doctor he must have KNOWN that an infected, untreated wound would cause fever,
no matter if it was by a walker or by a dog.
So he probably knew this was a dog bite and wanted Clem to die. Don't ask me why.
It probably has to do with his daughter.
Yeah,maybe...
I start to think he is the psycho, not his daughter.
Could he be paranoid ?
Nah,I think he's just over protective.Although that will eventually kill Sarah if he keeps rising her in a bubble.
Well, maybe he just didn't know that only walker bites can cause people to turn. Perhaps they think that it's just ANY bite could cause people to turn, and they weren't willing to take a risk without knowing. They ARE pretty isolated in the middle of the forest like that, so they might not know as much as, say, a group closer to a city or town would.
He could at least of stitched her arm up and than stuck her in the shed. I mean they're petty much leaving her to die otherwise they didn't even give her warm clothing food or a blanket for Christ sake
well put
In line with the 'things I wish Lee could say', in this situation there was something I wish Clem could say:
"I wish you hadn't have done what you did."
"Hey, ass. You just locked a ten year old girl in a shed to die of an infected wound over night because you're not a competent enough doctor to tell the difference between a dog bite and a walker bite. And now you're chastising that same ten year old girl for doing whatever she needed to do to save her own life when the doctor wasn't up to the task? Get the hell out of here and get me some food. Maybe you can at least do that right."
That is exactly where the story seems weird
Is it possible the guy really isn't a doctor?
I mean if he was, he should be able to tell the difference between a human bite and a dog bite. He should also know that infection was going to set in if the wound wasn't treated. Any kind of bite wound is extremely prone to infection, because mouths (both animal and human) are loaded with germs.
Then again it might be an error, as the story isn't written by doctors. I'm not a doctor either...but I'm pretty sure you can't use peroxide on dog bites. Or at least the warning labels used to say not to use it on deep puncture wounds. I know that from looking at it one time when I stepped on a nail.
That's dumb.Why did they give her a chance if they thought any kind of bite turns you?
I can understand being wary regardless of how the bite actually looked, but leaving her with a wound to get infected in the shed was just a dick move.
Yeah I agree. He is stupid as hell. I'm afraid he would be like Governor O.o
i dont think he's a real doctor, maybe he's just the guy in the group who "knows" some medical stuff and they made him "the doc"
no way a real doc doesnt know anything about bites or getting fever from infections
Very apt comparison.
IIRC, when you listen to them in the kitchen, the doctor (Carlos, right?) mentions exactly that: she could die of an infection even if it wasn't a walker bite, or at least something like this. And still it was him that came up with the "fever test" in the first place...
Does he?I did listen to the kitchen but I still didn't catch that part,hm...
Sorry,I didn't mean to offend you,I was a little drunk when I wrote this too
That was my thought, too, that Carlos might not actually be a doctor.
He also didn't say anything about Clem stitching her arm up incorrectly. (According to a nurse I know, stitches on an arm shouldn't be in a zigzag pattern, because any time you move the arm, it will pull on the entire zigzag of stitching that way.)
And we now know hydrogen peroxide doesn't actually work as a disinfectant. It just reacts with blood to make bubbles.
Lol. Good one.
I have a feeling that Carlos aka Dr. Suck-a-Lot will be the next one from the group to go! (Pete died in my game)
I think that maybe it was because he was going to suggest killing her anyway. He just set up a no-pass test to clean out his conscience before he did it. She could have been a walker, or she could be working for Carver. There was just no way for him to know.
Considering zombies can rip through flesh like we were made of wet noodles (which i always found rather "lol", when they lose an arm quite easily), i would give Carlos the Doc the benefit of the doubt.
Its just one of thouse things in a zombie fantasy world you have to accept. Rotten walking corpses that can open your stomach in less then a second (unless u have claws, its near impossible), or bite you several inches deep with a jaw thats about to come off.
I remember watching a show about an apocalypse and was talk that someone who is a Doctor may not want to advertise that.. They would be in such high demand and risk being kidnapped. (Kat at St.Johns).
Just because he may be a real doctor does not make him an expert in bite identfication especially the sort of wound Clem had. It wasnt a simple teeth pattern like we saw on Lee's arm. There wasnt simple canine puncture marks, the wound was a tear.
But in this episode and looking at Clem's arm, first, it wasnt your typical dog bite pattern, it was a long tear, not a typical bite pattern so even I agree it would be hard to tell what caused it.. They also said they do not have the medical supplies to spare for someone who may be zombie bitten.
Realize in this ZA world, every bit matters. every inch of thread, every drop of peroxide matters.. Are you going to give away what may save your life for some stranger who is bitten and no one can tell what the bite is from?
I guess I've just been playing this game with a more hard-core attitude of survival. While I wish they would have brought Clem into the house and fixed up her arm, I could totally see why they wouldnt and I would proably agree with them if I were part of thier group.
That being said, one of my favorite parts of this episode were when they let Clem out of the shed and she was mad at them.. Showed some attitude. That's right sweet pea!
We're talking about an apocalypse here:
A group of people that want no part of some guy named Carver.
A group of people trying to stick together.
People dieing left and right in their circles or during the beginning of the epidemic.
(So initially adult or kid, their trust meter is at a all time low).
AND Supplies are rarer.
So yes Clementine is a kid
There could of been a way of making the Doctor analyse her arm better. (Not just leave us hanging by saying he can't recognize if it's human teeths or a dog bite ...Then again? Was the group in the presence of a zombie/infected animal? Who knows. They just didn't want to take the chance. Odds were not in Clem's favour.
At the end ...Yes we can help but no we can't risk.
It's a child, she wouldn't lie normally but who is she, where she from, who she been with < Can't trust, Can't help.
End.
there was a show talking about zombies, if real, why they bite so hard or can reach in through your flesh.
The answer was pain!
We are limited on our bite strength by the pain it may cause, We can only bite as hard as we can endure. Zombies dont have this so they can bite harder than most people.. Same goes with ripping into flesh.. They will claw and dig at a body with no pain, even as fingers may break or get torn off, they dont notice, they don't care.
Didn't mean to put it as a spoiler ..smh
Can it be taken off please.
That's what i thought as well, the Doctor gave me the Governor feel.
Also maybe walkers have more strength in their jaw than regular humans, when i see them tearing apart humans with just their jaws and hands often i question that myself, i am not sure of course. And yes, the doctor was quite an asshole not tending at that wound.
Yeah, he could have been a cardiac surgeon or a dentist for all we know.
Interesting, I like this idea although I think he did criticize her suturing skills.
Yeah, i totally agree with you, i don´t think identifying that wound was that easy. And maybe he is a podiatrist for all we know. Also he had to be 100% sure, so i think that locking her was an understable measure.
But, not treating the wound at all? That was like sentencing her to death, or to losing her arm at the least. He was pretty an asshole for doing that.
Heh yeah i read "The Zombie Survival Guide".
For a zombie to rip open your stomach in a split second as they do it would need muscles, no muscles no strength. And the fingers would need to be bone or have razer like nails, or have its victim pinned long enough. However considering most zombies are just Rotten Flesh that would mean no muscles. As said previous, its just one of thouse things you accept about the zombie universe. Great for tv and games, just make no sens in the real world.
Alas, Carlos is right to worry!. Theres no telling anymore. xD
But in a dirty shed? We've seen how easy a child walker is to deal with in Season 1. All they had to do was tie her to a chair in a locked room.