i agree up until you saying u wouldn't recommend the game. i mean shit that's like not getting COD MW2 Cuz they added/removed a feature from t… morehe first COD MW game. i thoroughly enjoyed it, yes it was too quick and hasty, but i connected to Clem-Clem, and Luke, Peter. but yeah
i agree they killed lee to fast just to make people cry, why kill lee if your going to fast forward 16 months. they should have killed him in this episode where the dog dies, because clem and lee would have been together 16 months, and she would have to go on without lee. and thats every more powerful, then everything happens some what the same
1) I agree - the 16 months fast forward was too fast and done only so that she wouldnt be such a kid anymore and so that it would make sense i… moref she could defend herself.
2) I stand by my notion that putting us, the audience, in the role of a child was a bad call. If you gonna fast forward 16 months to make her be somewhat older because a lot of the things you want to do wouldnt work on a 10 year old girl, then why not just make the first person player an adult?
3) I wish they had kept Lee and Clem as the only survivors of season 1 and this season would have been the continuation of their journey. Killing Lee off was a bad call and terrible executive decision. I like Clem but i dont care to play her. This seems just like a completely new series and has little to do with season 1, other than Clem talking about Lee
4) I dont buy that a pregnant woman and little girl survived 16 months in the ZA - out and about in the woods eating rodents or hal… [view original content]
I'm Not On about the Group bit, Not to Mention I only Knew that was going to Happen after the Dog had attacked.
Before the Dog was there Being a Dog Not attacking Clem, I had no idea the bite would even happen. But After the Dog Bit, I knew a Group would assume she was bitten.
Honestly, In the whole I do like the episode. It was just one little nitpick.
There's always someone who dislikes something because they "predicted it," because it's cliched or because you're trained to expect the unexpe… morected. You can't win with these people, and I think it's a stupid point of criticism anyway, reducing good and bad storytelling to what is or isn't predictable. Myself, I did not expect the dog attack even though I know to always anticipate a sudden scare in TWD. At the same time, I knew that Clem would find someone else or another group at some point since this is a story being told here, which needs characters to interact with, but that no less diminishes my enjoyment; in fact, it would suck without it.
It was a culmination of a whole season 1 and you are asking why they killed of Lee?? What else could they do to give u such a kick of emotions?? Leave them all living? I think it was a very good finish first season. I couldnt get back to play it again for like 3 - 4 months, after what i started playing again and looking forward to season 2!
i agree they killed lee to fast just to make people cry, why kill lee if your going to fast forward 16 months. they should have killed him in … morethis episode where the dog dies, because clem and lee would have been together 16 months, and she would have to go on without lee. and thats every more powerful, then everything happens some what the same
lee didnt have to died at that time, if they knew they were making a season 2. they could have made it out together. telltale just wanted to make people cry
It was a culmination of a whole season 1 and you are asking why they killed of Lee?? What else could they do to give u such a kick of emotions… more?? Leave them all living? I think it was a very good finish first season. I couldnt get back to play it again for like 3 - 4 months, after what i started playing again and looking forward to season 2!
Its a zombie apocalypse people SHOULD die. I like that the game had the balls to kill off a major character. To me thats what makes the show worse, because characters like rick, darrell, and michonne will never be killed off (most likely). It takes me out of the experience.
lee didnt have to died at that time, if they knew they were making a season 2. they could have made it out together. telltale just wanted to make people cry
Do people really think there's some massive difference between a nine year old and a ten year old, and that Clem's suddenly way more mature now that she's ten? Seriously, does anyone think this other than ten year olds who want to lord it over kids a year younger than them?
I have no idea where people are getting the idea that the time skip was there to make Clem older and thus more competent. She's still a ten year old. The time skip was in place (imo) for the purpose of giving us a mystery regarding what happened to Christa's baby, and to move the story along at a proper clip so that Clem's protection can be stripped away. The beginning, walking with Christa and Omid, is there to give us a false sense of security - the feeling that Clen at least has some kind of protection now, even if it's not Lee. Then BAM, half that protection is killed, and then BAM, a time skip to show misery between her and the other half of that protection, and then she's stripped away as well.
And the idea that this doesn't feel connected to season 1 when Clem was the one that the entire first season orbited around just absolutely blows my mind. I can't grasp it at all.
As far as the people in the house, we have much, much less time to get to know them than we did with any of the main characters from S1, so of course they seem somewhat one-dimensional. We haven't had a chance to learn anything about them.
Obviously, YMMV and all that, but I just can't understand bashing something this hard and then giving it a B.
1) I agree - the 16 months fast forward was too fast and done only so that she wouldnt be such a kid anymore and so that it would make sense i… moref she could defend herself.
2) I stand by my notion that putting us, the audience, in the role of a child was a bad call. If you gonna fast forward 16 months to make her be somewhat older because a lot of the things you want to do wouldnt work on a 10 year old girl, then why not just make the first person player an adult?
3) I wish they had kept Lee and Clem as the only survivors of season 1 and this season would have been the continuation of their journey. Killing Lee off was a bad call and terrible executive decision. I like Clem but i dont care to play her. This seems just like a completely new series and has little to do with season 1, other than Clem talking about Lee
4) I dont buy that a pregnant woman and little girl survived 16 months in the ZA - out and about in the woods eating rodents or hal… [view original content]
I think killing Lee off in the middle of an episode would have been absolutely terrible writing, Just God-awful. That's something for the finale, that you leave with your audience so they can let it sink in. Not just something that you throw in the middle of an episode. It could have been sorta brutal, but it also would have taken a huge amount of the impact away from S1 and would probably have felt kinda superfluous in mid-ep.
i agree they killed lee to fast just to make people cry, why kill lee if your going to fast forward 16 months. they should have killed him in … morethis episode where the dog dies, because clem and lee would have been together 16 months, and she would have to go on without lee. and thats every more powerful, then everything happens some what the same
It would be fabulous to have Lee still with us, but i just dont see other option. That was only one thing that could keep emotions up until season 2, only one thaang i was thinking until season 2 was : she's alone... Its not to make you cry, its to make you want more!!
Some fucker keeps thumbing down my posts, why dot it show us who it is?!?
lee didnt have to died at that time, if they knew they were making a season 2. they could have made it out together. telltale just wanted to make people cry
Also, I was laughing pretty hard at the contingent who thought anyone with a trucker hat and dark hair had to be Kenny, but seeing how hard those rage-tears are flowing now that we know it's not him is just beautiful. And perhaps never so beautiful as this thread right here. I'm considering printing it out and framing it so I can hand it down to my grandchildren.
She's eleven... And youre not gonna tell me, she havent learn anything during that time, true she cant keep the fire up, but even we would learn something within two years. And true, the connection with people in the house is a bit undeveloped...
The time skip is WHY she's a ten year old girl.
Do people really think there's some massive difference between a nine year old and a ten ye… morear old, and that Clem's suddenly way more mature now that she's ten? Seriously, does anyone think this other than ten year olds who want to lord it over kids a year younger than them?
I have no idea where people are getting the idea that the time skip was there to make Clem older and thus more competent. She's still a ten year old. The time skip was in place (imo) for the purpose of giving us a mystery regarding what happened to Christa's baby, and to move the story along at a proper clip so that Clem's protection can be stripped away. The beginning, walking with Christa and Omid, is there to give us a false sense of security - the feeling that Clen at least has some kind of protection now, even if it's not Lee. Then BAM, half that protection is killed, and then BAM, a time skip to show misery betwe… [view original content]
Does she specifically say something about being eleven that I missed? She's nine at the end of S1, there's no more than six months between that and the beginning of S2, and then sixteen months pass. At most, I put it at 22 months later, which would still make her ten.
I'm not saying she didn't learn anything at all, but I certainly don't buy that they made the time skip just to make her seem more competent. She's still a little girl. Hell, even at 11, she's still a little girl.
Also, please try to tone down the "even you" style personal insults. I'd rather not get ugly like that, thx.
She's eleven... And youre not gonna tell me, she havent learn anything during that time, true she cant keep the fire up, but even we would learn something within two years. And true, the connection with people in the house is a bit undeveloped...
Killing Omid was like killing any hope for comic relief. Now the characters are going to whine and complain, sinking them deeper into hopelessness. At least Omid brightened up situations with his humor. He smiled more noticeably than any other characters and he was only part of it for a short amount of time. Him and Clementine were similar in that they could notice something to smile about even as times got rough. Now that he's dead, the funnies are gone. Those little play on words that you didn't expect made the game just a little more entertaining to play.
Another part is the choice system. I don't even see the words "This game is tailored by the choices you make" anymore, but that's probably because it isn't that true anymore. You can't do anything to save Omid no matter what choice you make. The conversation with the woman doesn't go much differently but ends up at the same place no matter what choice you make. The whole dog situation only went one way no matter what choice you make. The only difference is whether or not you'd know his name or that he doesn't like to be petted. The major choices make the game have more to look forward to. The whole conversation about how Clementine lost her parents doesn't change no matter what choices you make, other than staying silent. Whether you choose to sneak away from the Christa incident with the guys in the woods or not, you still get the same chase scene and same ending to the chase scene. The worst of the choice system in this first episode had to be the ending. You pick Pete and both Nick and Pete live. You pick Nick and Pete dies.
The time gap I was actually okay with. The only problems I had was not knowing what happened to Christa's baby and how Christa and Clementine survived all those months. Also, what happened to Clementine's gun? Did they just leave it there in the bathroom because it was used to kill Omid?
Gotta wait another 6-8 weeks to see whether or not telltalegames will improve this or if Season 2 will continue to go downhill. It's been a good game so far and I'm going to try and keep an open mind all the way through, even this entire second season no matter how bad it may be. It's something worth improving on.
Shit, didnt mean no offence i should say us, meaning adults. Adults rate of learning is way slower than kids, ive got 5 year old who is bilingual in speech, reading and writing... And in my opinion 22 months is more two years than 1 year thats why i say eleven...
Does she specifically say something about being eleven that I missed? She's nine at the end of S1, there's no more than six months between th… moreat and the beginning of S2, and then sixteen months pass. At most, I put it at 22 months later, which would still make her ten.
I'm not saying she didn't learn anything at all, but I certainly don't buy that they made the time skip just to make her seem more competent. She's still a little girl. Hell, even at 11, she's still a little girl.
Also, please try to tone down the "even you" style personal insults. I'd rather not get ugly like that, thx.
i would not call killing EVERYONE but keeping Lee and Clem alive as leave them all living. Lee was a key character and killing him off in service of having a 12 year old run the show is not something i consider a wise decision.
It was a culmination of a whole season 1 and you are asking why they killed of Lee?? What else could they do to give u such a kick of emotions… more?? Leave them all living? I think it was a very good finish first season. I couldnt get back to play it again for like 3 - 4 months, after what i started playing again and looking forward to season 2!
she's around 12 years old now. About 25 months have passed since Lee met Clem and she was what 9 or 10 - that would make her around 12 ish - give or take. And yes, when you are a kid, the difference between a 9 or 10 year old and a pre teen of 12 years of age is pretty big - not like we are talking about being 23 or 25 years old. And as I said, I also dont buy that christa and Clem were getting by in the ZA by themselves for 16 months. I guess my overall rating pertains to the new group she met and that they are all kind of assholes and unpleasant. I was actually hoping they all would die or get killed so Clem can move on. As to the 16 months: it would have been nice to see how Clem is doing and surviving those 1 1/2 years - how she toughens up etc. Skipping it took that away for me.
The time skip is WHY she's a ten year old girl.
Do people really think there's some massive difference between a nine year old and a ten ye… morear old, and that Clem's suddenly way more mature now that she's ten? Seriously, does anyone think this other than ten year olds who want to lord it over kids a year younger than them?
I have no idea where people are getting the idea that the time skip was there to make Clem older and thus more competent. She's still a ten year old. The time skip was in place (imo) for the purpose of giving us a mystery regarding what happened to Christa's baby, and to move the story along at a proper clip so that Clem's protection can be stripped away. The beginning, walking with Christa and Omid, is there to give us a false sense of security - the feeling that Clen at least has some kind of protection now, even if it's not Lee. Then BAM, half that protection is killed, and then BAM, a time skip to show misery betwe… [view original content]
Ah! My bad, some other folks had gotten insulting and I guess I was just being overly sensitive about it. :P I definitely agree with you on that front!
And I suppose she's gotta be getting pretty close to her 11th birthday and has doubtlessly learned a few more survival skills, but I still think she's a dumb ol' kid when it comes down to it, and I certainly don't feel like she has a better chance of surviving now than I would have thought before the time skip. As always tho, YMMV. :P
Shit, didnt mean no offence i should say us, meaning adults. Adults rate of learning is way slower than kids, ive got 5 year old who is biling… moreual in speech, reading and writing... And in my opinion 22 months is more two years than 1 year thats why i say eleven...
Prefer this season's first episode to last season's first. If the guy who ran into the woods survives and you meet him at some point, then it is an actual choice. If he dies as well as the other guy depending on who you pick then it's not really a choice.
yeah i agree about the choices. It really didnt matter whether you shared the food with the dog or not, you were still being attacked and bitten etc. I wanted to play Clem tough and mean so she can get ahead but whether she's a sweetheart or tough, she still ends up locked up in the shed. Choice is when the decision you make leads to different outcomes - as in this person lives vs that person or you get locked up vs not. Or you get bitten by dog or not. If whatever you do the outcomes is the same, why bother at all.
Killing Omid was like killing any hope for comic relief. Now the characters are going to whine and complain, sinking them deeper into hopeles… moresness. At least Omid brightened up situations with his humor. He smiled more noticeably than any other characters and he was only part of it for a short amount of time. Him and Clementine were similar in that they could notice something to smile about even as times got rough. Now that he's dead, the funnies are gone. Those little play on words that you didn't expect made the game just a little more entertaining to play.
Another part is the choice system. I don't even see the words "This game is tailored by the choices you make" anymore, but that's probably because it isn't that true anymore. You can't do anything to save Omid no matter what choice you make. The conversation with the woman doesn't go much differently but ends up at the same place no matter what choice you make. The whole dog situ… [view original content]
Also, I was laughing pretty hard at the contingent who thought anyone with a trucker hat and dark hair had to be Kenny, but seeing how hard th… moreose rage-tears are flowing now that we know it's not him is just beautiful. And perhaps never so beautiful as this thread right here. I'm considering printing it out and framing it so I can hand it down to my grandchildren.
I also wanted to reiterate that this episode was way too short. It just felt like it went by in a breeze. Also, I quite frankly hated the sappy, vocalized music in the end . Season 1 had a dark sinister tone to it - from the score to the flies indicating death and decay. This season doesnt feel as menacing but more like "poor little girl lost in the world, take out the violin and be sad for her." Come on guys - bring back the dark mood. I really wish they didnt make us play Clem.
I think i know what you mean with dumb ol' kid, cos she seems like it... What the hell is YMMV?
I was also stretching Christas pregnancy to 8 months...
Ah! My bad, some other folks had gotten insulting and I guess I was just being overly sensitive about it. :P I definitely agree with you on… more that front!
And I suppose she's gotta be getting pretty close to her 11th birthday and has doubtlessly learned a few more survival skills, but I still think she's a dumb ol' kid when it comes down to it, and I certainly don't feel like she has a better chance of surviving now than I would have thought before the time skip. As always tho, YMMV. :P
I also wanted to reiterate that this episode was way too short. It just felt like it went by in a breeze. Also, I quite frankly hated the sapp… morey, vocalized music in the end . Season 1 had a dark sinister tone to it - from the score to the flies indicating death and decay. This season doesnt feel as menacing but more like "poor little girl lost in the world, take out the violin and be sad for her." Come on guys - bring back the dark mood. I really wish they didnt make us play Clem.
Its a zombie apocalypse people SHOULD die. I like that the game had the balls to kill off a major character. To me thats what makes the show w… moreorse, because characters like rick, darrell, and michonne will never be killed off (most likely). It takes me out of the experience.
I think i know what you mean with dumb ol' kid, cos she seems like it... What the hell is YMMV?
I was also stretching Christas pregnancy to 8 months...
you dont see another option, because you dont want to see another option. lee was killed because they wanted crying not great writing, but they have kenny back makes no sense
It would be fabulous to have Lee still with us, but i just dont see other option. That was only one thing that could keep emotions up until se… moreason 2, only one thaang i was thinking until season 2 was : she's alone... Its not to make you cry, its to make you want more!!
Some fucker keeps thumbing down my posts, why dot it show us who it is?!?
Although I hate complaining on the forums at the same time it is a forum that probably wouldn't exist without complaining. I still love the game and Im sure the complainers do, but there are some elements that can be improved upon.
I think killing Lee off in the middle of an episode would have been absolutely terrible writing, Just God-awful. That's something for the fin… moreale, that you leave with your audience so they can let it sink in. Not just something that you throw in the middle of an episode. It could have been sorta brutal, but it also would have taken a huge amount of the impact away from S1 and would probably have felt kinda superfluous in mid-ep.
The time skip is WHY she's a ten year old girl.
Do people really think there's some massive difference between a nine year old and a ten ye… morear old, and that Clem's suddenly way more mature now that she's ten? Seriously, does anyone think this other than ten year olds who want to lord it over kids a year younger than them?
I have no idea where people are getting the idea that the time skip was there to make Clem older and thus more competent. She's still a ten year old. The time skip was in place (imo) for the purpose of giving us a mystery regarding what happened to Christa's baby, and to move the story along at a proper clip so that Clem's protection can be stripped away. The beginning, walking with Christa and Omid, is there to give us a false sense of security - the feeling that Clen at least has some kind of protection now, even if it's not Lee. Then BAM, half that protection is killed, and then BAM, a time skip to show misery betwe… [view original content]
Well, youre not showing me any other option, if you come up with great finish to season one(keeping lee alive) i will consider it, and if its good i will be happy to write a letter to TellTale asking them to get you a job. I would love that, but i just dont see other option so far.
you dont see another option, because you dont want to see another option. lee was killed because they wanted crying not great writing, but they have kenny back makes no sense
Truthfully I think the new ep was good. Understand that when you have a large community who played and enjoyed the game and especially experienced the game differently from the next player that expectations are going to fall short. But I think part of what makes this game so good is that we all experienced it differently.
I'm relatively new to this forum and I'm shocked at all the Kenny fans. I personally didn't like Kenny- though me and his relationship went off the rails pretty early and he was kind of a jerk to Lee for most of the game. He did redeem himself in the end- you guys know what I mean, but for me, I didn't like him really at all. Also, the ending, when you find out who the voice on the radio is and you meet that person- part of me said "c'mon, really?" and the other part of me said "ohhhh damn!"
But that just goes to show you that the choices we make change our perception of the game and how we experience it. I think the love this game has gotten warrants people just sitting tight and seeing where the season takes us. I think it's unfair to prematurely judge it based on the first episode not necessarily doing what you wanted it to do.
I'm not saying we shouldn't talk about it- the fact that this game has so many people talking, positively and negatively, shows that it has taken us in so well and invoked such a response in us that we feel the need to talk about it and I think TTG would be happy with that. All I'm saying is perhaps we should reserve final judgment until we can talk about the season as a whole- who knows where it's going from here.
If they didnt kill lee, the awesome finale episode would be possible. Cmon, no time left was great. Even if they did do it for "crying", its still better than leaving him alive just to appease fans.
you dont see another option, because you dont want to see another option. lee was killed because they wanted crying not great writing, but they have kenny back makes no sense
Eh. I think a lot of the complaints are overly simplistic to the point of ridiculous, but having reasonable complaints about something that you enjoy is certainly no crime.
If they didnt kill lee, the awesome finale episode would be possible. Cmon, no time left was great. Even if they did do it for "crying", its still better than leaving him alive just to appease fans.
i would not call killing EVERYONE but keeping Lee and Clem alive as leave them all living. Lee was a key character and killing him off in service of having a 12 year old run the show is not something i consider a wise decision.
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This is exact reason why you dont buy another COD game cos all what they done is added few elements to the same game and takin like 40 quid for it...
i agree they killed lee to fast just to make people cry, why kill lee if your going to fast forward 16 months. they should have killed him in this episode where the dog dies, because clem and lee would have been together 16 months, and she would have to go on without lee. and thats every more powerful, then everything happens some what the same
I'm Not On about the Group bit, Not to Mention I only Knew that was going to Happen after the Dog had attacked.
Before the Dog was there Being a Dog Not attacking Clem, I had no idea the bite would even happen. But After the Dog Bit, I knew a Group would assume she was bitten.
Honestly, In the whole I do like the episode. It was just one little nitpick.
It was a culmination of a whole season 1 and you are asking why they killed of Lee?? What else could they do to give u such a kick of emotions?? Leave them all living? I think it was a very good finish first season. I couldnt get back to play it again for like 3 - 4 months, after what i started playing again and looking forward to season 2!
lee didnt have to died at that time, if they knew they were making a season 2. they could have made it out together. telltale just wanted to make people cry
Its a zombie apocalypse people SHOULD die. I like that the game had the balls to kill off a major character. To me thats what makes the show worse, because characters like rick, darrell, and michonne will never be killed off (most likely). It takes me out of the experience.
The time skip is WHY she's a ten year old girl.
Do people really think there's some massive difference between a nine year old and a ten year old, and that Clem's suddenly way more mature now that she's ten? Seriously, does anyone think this other than ten year olds who want to lord it over kids a year younger than them?
I have no idea where people are getting the idea that the time skip was there to make Clem older and thus more competent. She's still a ten year old. The time skip was in place (imo) for the purpose of giving us a mystery regarding what happened to Christa's baby, and to move the story along at a proper clip so that Clem's protection can be stripped away. The beginning, walking with Christa and Omid, is there to give us a false sense of security - the feeling that Clen at least has some kind of protection now, even if it's not Lee. Then BAM, half that protection is killed, and then BAM, a time skip to show misery between her and the other half of that protection, and then she's stripped away as well.
And the idea that this doesn't feel connected to season 1 when Clem was the one that the entire first season orbited around just absolutely blows my mind. I can't grasp it at all.
As far as the people in the house, we have much, much less time to get to know them than we did with any of the main characters from S1, so of course they seem somewhat one-dimensional. We haven't had a chance to learn anything about them.
Obviously, YMMV and all that, but I just can't understand bashing something this hard and then giving it a B.
I think killing Lee off in the middle of an episode would have been absolutely terrible writing, Just God-awful. That's something for the finale, that you leave with your audience so they can let it sink in. Not just something that you throw in the middle of an episode. It could have been sorta brutal, but it also would have taken a huge amount of the impact away from S1 and would probably have felt kinda superfluous in mid-ep.
It would be fabulous to have Lee still with us, but i just dont see other option. That was only one thing that could keep emotions up until season 2, only one thaang i was thinking until season 2 was : she's alone... Its not to make you cry, its to make you want more!!
Some fucker keeps thumbing down my posts, why dot it show us who it is?!?
Also, I was laughing pretty hard at the contingent who thought anyone with a trucker hat and dark hair had to be Kenny, but seeing how hard those rage-tears are flowing now that we know it's not him is just beautiful. And perhaps never so beautiful as this thread right here. I'm considering printing it out and framing it so I can hand it down to my grandchildren.
She's eleven... And youre not gonna tell me, she havent learn anything during that time, true she cant keep the fire up, but even we would learn something within two years. And true, the connection with people in the house is a bit undeveloped...
Does she specifically say something about being eleven that I missed? She's nine at the end of S1, there's no more than six months between that and the beginning of S2, and then sixteen months pass. At most, I put it at 22 months later, which would still make her ten.
I'm not saying she didn't learn anything at all, but I certainly don't buy that they made the time skip just to make her seem more competent. She's still a little girl. Hell, even at 11, she's still a little girl.
Also, please try to tone down the "even you" style personal insults. I'd rather not get ugly like that, thx.
Killing Omid was like killing any hope for comic relief. Now the characters are going to whine and complain, sinking them deeper into hopelessness. At least Omid brightened up situations with his humor. He smiled more noticeably than any other characters and he was only part of it for a short amount of time. Him and Clementine were similar in that they could notice something to smile about even as times got rough. Now that he's dead, the funnies are gone. Those little play on words that you didn't expect made the game just a little more entertaining to play.
Another part is the choice system. I don't even see the words "This game is tailored by the choices you make" anymore, but that's probably because it isn't that true anymore. You can't do anything to save Omid no matter what choice you make. The conversation with the woman doesn't go much differently but ends up at the same place no matter what choice you make. The whole dog situation only went one way no matter what choice you make. The only difference is whether or not you'd know his name or that he doesn't like to be petted. The major choices make the game have more to look forward to. The whole conversation about how Clementine lost her parents doesn't change no matter what choices you make, other than staying silent. Whether you choose to sneak away from the Christa incident with the guys in the woods or not, you still get the same chase scene and same ending to the chase scene. The worst of the choice system in this first episode had to be the ending. You pick Pete and both Nick and Pete live. You pick Nick and Pete dies.
The time gap I was actually okay with. The only problems I had was not knowing what happened to Christa's baby and how Christa and Clementine survived all those months. Also, what happened to Clementine's gun? Did they just leave it there in the bathroom because it was used to kill Omid?
Gotta wait another 6-8 weeks to see whether or not telltalegames will improve this or if Season 2 will continue to go downhill. It's been a good game so far and I'm going to try and keep an open mind all the way through, even this entire second season no matter how bad it may be. It's something worth improving on.
Shit, didnt mean no offence i should say us, meaning adults. Adults rate of learning is way slower than kids, ive got 5 year old who is bilingual in speech, reading and writing... And in my opinion 22 months is more two years than 1 year thats why i say eleven...
i would not call killing EVERYONE but keeping Lee and Clem alive as leave them all living. Lee was a key character and killing him off in service of having a 12 year old run the show is not something i consider a wise decision.
she's around 12 years old now. About 25 months have passed since Lee met Clem and she was what 9 or 10 - that would make her around 12 ish - give or take. And yes, when you are a kid, the difference between a 9 or 10 year old and a pre teen of 12 years of age is pretty big - not like we are talking about being 23 or 25 years old. And as I said, I also dont buy that christa and Clem were getting by in the ZA by themselves for 16 months. I guess my overall rating pertains to the new group she met and that they are all kind of assholes and unpleasant. I was actually hoping they all would die or get killed so Clem can move on. As to the 16 months: it would have been nice to see how Clem is doing and surviving those 1 1/2 years - how she toughens up etc. Skipping it took that away for me.
Ah! My bad, some other folks had gotten insulting and I guess I was just being overly sensitive about it. :P I definitely agree with you on that front!
And I suppose she's gotta be getting pretty close to her 11th birthday and has doubtlessly learned a few more survival skills, but I still think she's a dumb ol' kid when it comes down to it, and I certainly don't feel like she has a better chance of surviving now than I would have thought before the time skip. As always tho, YMMV. :P
Prefer this season's first episode to last season's first. If the guy who ran into the woods survives and you meet him at some point, then it is an actual choice. If he dies as well as the other guy depending on who you pick then it's not really a choice.
yeah i agree about the choices. It really didnt matter whether you shared the food with the dog or not, you were still being attacked and bitten etc. I wanted to play Clem tough and mean so she can get ahead but whether she's a sweetheart or tough, she still ends up locked up in the shed. Choice is when the decision you make leads to different outcomes - as in this person lives vs that person or you get locked up vs not. Or you get bitten by dog or not. If whatever you do the outcomes is the same, why bother at all.
It's called opinion and hope, I admit he kind of looks like Kenny from the back, you don't have to be an asshole about it though.
I also wanted to reiterate that this episode was way too short. It just felt like it went by in a breeze. Also, I quite frankly hated the sappy, vocalized music in the end . Season 1 had a dark sinister tone to it - from the score to the flies indicating death and decay. This season doesnt feel as menacing but more like "poor little girl lost in the world, take out the violin and be sad for her." Come on guys - bring back the dark mood. I really wish they didnt make us play Clem.
I think i know what you mean with dumb ol' kid, cos she seems like it... What the hell is YMMV?
I was also stretching Christas pregnancy to 8 months...
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yea, so why clem never be killed most likely don't take you out the experience
GUYS If your gonna complain then dont play the fucking game!
Your mileage may vary.
She came pretty close to dieing in the very first episode so I wouldn't be too sure.
you dont see another option, because you dont want to see another option. lee was killed because they wanted crying not great writing, but they have kenny back makes no sense
Although I hate complaining on the forums at the same time it is a forum that probably wouldn't exist without complaining. I still love the game and Im sure the complainers do, but there are some elements that can be improved upon.
no that would be great writing, but why you need kenny back?
christa had to show clem something in 16 months
Well, youre not showing me any other option, if you come up with great finish to season one(keeping lee alive) i will consider it, and if its good i will be happy to write a letter to TellTale asking them to get you a job. I would love that, but i just dont see other option so far.
I get it now... Somebody is going bonkers with thumbs down, i havent put one on this website... We should be able to see whos doing thumbs
Truthfully I think the new ep was good. Understand that when you have a large community who played and enjoyed the game and especially experienced the game differently from the next player that expectations are going to fall short. But I think part of what makes this game so good is that we all experienced it differently.
I'm relatively new to this forum and I'm shocked at all the Kenny fans. I personally didn't like Kenny- though me and his relationship went off the rails pretty early and he was kind of a jerk to Lee for most of the game. He did redeem himself in the end- you guys know what I mean, but for me, I didn't like him really at all. Also, the ending, when you find out who the voice on the radio is and you meet that person- part of me said "c'mon, really?" and the other part of me said "ohhhh damn!"
But that just goes to show you that the choices we make change our perception of the game and how we experience it. I think the love this game has gotten warrants people just sitting tight and seeing where the season takes us. I think it's unfair to prematurely judge it based on the first episode not necessarily doing what you wanted it to do.
I'm not saying we shouldn't talk about it- the fact that this game has so many people talking, positively and negatively, shows that it has taken us in so well and invoked such a response in us that we feel the need to talk about it and I think TTG would be happy with that. All I'm saying is perhaps we should reserve final judgment until we can talk about the season as a whole- who knows where it's going from here.
If they didnt kill lee, the awesome finale episode would be possible. Cmon, no time left was great. Even if they did do it for "crying", its still better than leaving him alive just to appease fans.
nah you just only care about clem
Eh. I think a lot of the complaints are overly simplistic to the point of ridiculous, but having reasonable complaints about something that you enjoy is certainly no crime.
but kenny is not dead too appease fans
i agree
I hate the idea of Kenny coming back, if only because his fans have shown themselves to be obnoxious and I really love watching them get disappointed.