i am definitely NOT okay with Luke throwing Clem to the ground.
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He drops her out of shock and panic, he doesn't 'throw her to the ground'.
Yup. The hell with Luke. Even if his initial panic was understandable, his subsequent treatment of Clem was not. The way Luke behaved, you'd think he's watched WORLD WAR Z one too many times, with a bite victim turning ten-to-twelve seconds after being bit. He dishes out classic zingers like "Don't look at me that way, you're the one who's bitten!" *and *"You don't kill dogs!" (Seriously? Two years into the apocalypse and this twit thinks killing feral dogs is a no-no? Not even Sarah can be that naive).
And then, while the new group is bickering over Clem's fate, Luke's entire disposition conveniently switches back to "I'm a nice guy, really." I can't trust a man who flip-flops like that.
I think his panic was understandable,he had a bad experience about treating someone that's already bitten,which is the most traumatic event for nick since he lost his mom because of that,but in the end,both of them are very reasonable & nice
i would have done the same. and he is a buddy afterwards,so i am not blaming him.
nick is way worse. i say three words and he is giving me warning with his gun right away.
Two years into the apocalypse, Clem still thinks swearing is a no-no. Having a odd hang-up about killing dogs just shows that he's not a completely ruthless survivor yet, something that I thought you of all people could appreciate. And having a soft spot for animals isn't really that odd anyway, especially given the reaction around here towards Sam's death.
His reaction to Clem being bitten was a bit on the dumb side but he was still in panic mode (the "fuck fuck fuck" made that pretty clear). Once he got her to the group, he calmed down a little and continued being a chill, nice guy for the rest of the episode.
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I'm starting to get just a little tired of your presumptuous attitude. Fix it, or you and I are going to have a problem.
As for Luke, trying to justify his erratic behaviour is a fool's errand. He wasn't with Clem at the moment Sam ravaged her, otherwise he might have changed his tune. And just so we're clear: I love many dogs, but I don't love what dogs can become. I feel sad for Clem, but not for Sam; he was a child-mauling animal that had to be put down, it's as simple as that. Clem might refuse to swear, but you'll notice she doesn't ask others not to do it any more. In direct contrast, Luke is boneheaded enough to expect a child like Clem to not kill a dog when it's biting into her arm. His "soft spot", as you call it, isn't for Clem, the one who's actually been bitten, but for the animal that did the biting, which only further illustrated Luke's hypocrisy.
Nor did Luke get any less stupid and malevolent after he had calmed down. Remember the "I ain't carrying you any more with that bite on your arm" crack, when only two minutes ago he was acting like a saint by keeping Clem off her feet? Sorry, but any guy who can turn against you at such an alarming speed like that simply can't be trusted.
oh god, two people on the internet have a problem with each other. it's the end of all things
HE DROPPED CLEM! KILL HIM! KILL HIM!
I'll admit his unwillingness to even entertain the possibility that it was a dog bite at first didn't endear him to me but considering the later change in his attitude (such as standing up for Clem to the others and offering her food as well as saying that the others will just have to deal with it if she stays) and the explanation of what happened last time they tried to take in someone, who had a bite, I stopped giving him grief for it and reserved my irritation for those, who'd actually earned it aka Pregnant Jerkess.
So what would you have done? Most people here would save a little girl that needed you but what would you REALLY do if you found out she got "bitten"? For starters you dont know what caused it or how long ago it was, she could turn into a walker and die or jump at you any second, + again he had a bad experience with someone who got bit before. He got shocked and scared so i dont see the reason as to why it s a "fools errand". He's also a very nice guy afterwards when it turns out that "he was wrong", that the bite was nothing more than a dog bite, but do you really blame him for being careful? I don't and didn't.
Why not? What else should he have done? Put her gently to the ground? That would probably have been better but he was probably scared and shocked! I would have done the same if i saw a kid i was carrying (who i found in the woods) had a bite like that.
Clementine says 'Shit' in the pit stop when she drops her water.
I can understand him dropping Clem. I'd do the same damn thing if I found out the little girl I was carrying had been bitten. And his turn into temporary jerkassery is even more understandable, given what happened with Nick's mom before Clem even got there. The only thing I gripe about is his whole "You don't kill dogs!" crap. I know he wasn't there, but if he expects me to let that dog tear me up just because "Dog, man's best friend,, hurr durr" then he'll be disappointed. So long as we don't encounter more asshole dogs, though, he'll be on my good side.
People do and say stupid things when they're scared or shocked, how was he supposed to keep his cool when holding a potentially infected child who could suddenly chew his neck off at any second? Dropping her out of surprise and not instantly believing her wasn't a nice thing to do, but it's the apocalypse where one mistake could kill you.
Let's not forget that moments before Clementine passes out due to the bite, Luke runs to her to presumably pick her up again. He isn't sure that Clementine may have been telling the truth, but he reacts first before Pete did.
LEAVE LUKEY ALONE
Only if Lee says it around her, apparently.
If I remember correctly she says "oh shoot", does she not? It may just be me wanting her to stay that way but I'm sure that's what she said.
It differs back in your decisions in the barn in Episode 1
I remember in my game she scolds Alvin, I think, for saying "Motherfucker". I guess it just depends on your choices in the game whether she thinks swearing is a no-no or not.
I agree completely. He wasn't there. He didn't know that Clem was just defending herself from a vicious attack and only accidentally killed it. All he knows and all he's reacting to is her description of "I killed it. It attacked me," which to an outside observer might have sounded like it bit her once and she killed it as retribution. He thinks that's fucked up and said so. Pretty simple.
Noticed how he then immediately rushes to Clem's aid as she was collapsing. I'm betting that he carried her down to the cabin too. He's a genuinely nice guy who's learned that he has to distance himself from people even if they're in trouble but hasn't really been able to bring himself to do it. That makes him a good person.
You should stop taking offense to completely innocuous comments. I'm not the one with the problem here. I like you. You're fun to talk to. Sounds like that feeling might not be mutual. That's unfortunate, but I'm not going to be changing anything to please you.
Indeed. Luke is a functional retard and moronic drone, just like everyone else in that cabin. The author did a very good of making them unlikable, maybe he plans to kill them all off in the next episode. xD
Okay then, you aren't okay with Luke dropping Clementine. Fair enough.
Did you save Nick or Pete? Let me explain.
Lets go over what happened when Luke and Pete saved Clem:
Clementine was tackled by a walker, and was about to get bit. She was pushing the walker away with her arms. Luke and Pete save her and carry her away. Luke sees a fresh wound on her left forearm, which was very close to a walker. He puts two and two together and thinks she is bit. He panics and drops her. He doesn't reach for his machete or say "lets kill her now".
For the rest of the episode, he is kind to Clementine.
Now, fast forward a bit to the river:
Pete cries out in pain, backs up from a lurker crawling on the ground, and says he lost his footing. We see the bite mark on his leg, but he doesn't say he got bitten. Most people put two and two together, assume he got bitten, and proceeded to leave him for dead. I saved Pete because I wasn't sure if he was actually bitten. Many more people would have gone with Pete if he hadn't been bitten, considering he saved your life and was the first person to believe you.
So lets recap.
Luke sees Clementine fighting off a lurker, and when he sees a fresh wound on her arm, assumes it was a bite, and drops her. at this point, he doesn't owe Clementine anything or have any emotional attachment to her.
When most player saw Pete fight off a lurker, cry out in pain, and see a wound on his ankle, most players choose to let him die. This was after he saved your life.
I'm not saying you are a terrible person if you panicked and went to help Nick, therefore allowing Pete to die. But don't criticize Luke for dropping Clementine in a moment of panic.
Ok for a second let's enjoy the fact that Telltale made even this small thing from episode 1 season 1 change a whole aspect of her personality. How cool!
LUKE: Guys, help me! I got bitten by a mountain cougar!
CLEM: I don't know, Luke. How do we know it wasn't a zombie mountain cougar?
LUKE: What?! How the hell can you say something so...(pause) Oh, I get it. Fuck you, Clem.
CLEM: Dickhead.
If you were in a zombie apocalypse and were carrying someone with a noticeable bite, you would freak the hell out, since just one little bite can turn you into a zombie
This seem easily biased
What did he do wrong after it?
I can look past Luke dropping her in a moment of shock, but he was still a bit dickish afterwards.
When things settled down he seemed to be one of the more amiable group members, but I'd guess he's no expert with knowing how to handle the more stressful situations.
I like Luke yah he dropped her but what would you do if you found out you were carrying a bitten person? I thinks he's really nice and has Clem's best interest at heart
His self-righteous critique of killing a dog in self-defense aside, he talked like he would have left Clementine to die in the woods if not for Pete.
I found the dog comment funny and kind of likable. Not self righteous. I think for all his talk he would've helped her anyway. He seems like someone who can't resist helping even if he does go out of his way to deny it
If it was a passing comment like, "...Did you have to kill it?" I could have maybe found the position more understanding.
But as is, he was reproaching an injured child without knowing anything about the situation.
Based on his later conversations I would guess that Luke wouldn't have left her behind in the end, I'm just acknowledging that I didn't like him right off the bat.