Okay, so I found a sin in your hypothesis. When Russel tells his story he's talking about a man and his daughter (maybe Carlos and Sarah), then he tells us that the man said he was a cop, but nobody believed him, also Carlos is a doctor. Also, Sarah is 15 and Russel is in his early 20s, so they aren't the same age as Russel stated.
What if Carver wasn't in Steve's group, but with the group that attacked Roman and Shel's crew at the Pitstop (assuming that those are different groups)? Maybe Carver was behind that? We DID see Roman dead in the shootout that Nick and Pete think he instigated. Thoughts? Possible, Yes, No?
What if Carver wasn't in Steve's group, but with the group that attacked Roman and Shel's crew at the Pitstop (assuming that those are differ… moreent groups)? Maybe Carver was behind that? We DID see Roman dead in the shootout that Nick and Pete think he instigated. Thoughts? Possible, Yes, No?
I shared the same theory in another thread and i pointed out that its quite possible that Pete, Pete's sister(Nick's mom) and Nick coudlve joi… morened the group later on. So that makes:
1.Russel
2.Steve.
3.Alvin(a teacher)
4.Rebecca a.k.a Female Larry(Alvin's wife)
5.A cop who nobody believed was a cop(could be Johnny Carver, but it could also be Luke which makes the theory false.However we can add Luke to the "joined later" group)
6.Carlos
7.Sarah(a father and his daughter)
So here you go, lucky 7.
The first one has "binoculars" in it, and another one has "rifleAK47" in it. The picture for episode two has a man with binoculars, and a man with a rifle. There is one file that says carver, one that says johnny. My theory is that one of the two men in the cover picture for episode 2 of season 2 is Carver, and one is a man named Johnny.
The only problem I see with this is that if it was Carlos and Sarah with Steve, Sarah would have been exposed to everything in the outside world. Carlos implies that he has kept Sarah sheltered since the beginning.
Other than that, awesome theory.
But Pete, Nick, and Luke all seem just as frightened of Carver as the rest of the group. I mean after saying you and Christa were attacked Luke asks who/what they were looking for like he knew someone was looking him and his group. I also really don't think Pete, his sister, Nick and Luke would stay with a group of people who were being hunted by a guy as crazy as Carver seems to be when they they could easily just leave and Carver wouldn't know they exist and would no reason to ever hurt them.
The first one has "binoculars" in it, and another one has "rifleAK47" in it. The picture for episode two has a man with binoculars, and a man… more with a rifle. There is one file that says carver, one that says johnny. My theory is that one of the two men in the cover picture for episode 2 of season 2 is Carver, and one is a man named Johnny.
No what im saying is only Alvin, Rebecca, Carlos, and Sarah were part of the group and they all left Steve/Carver and then found new people to start a new group with (Luke, Nick, etc...) so naturally to get the number back up to 7 he would have to get new people into his group. Its simple math 7-5=2 then when he finds new people 2+5=7 so now he's back at 7.
But this Steve was so screwed up he killed any newcomers just to keep their group at seven. It's hard to imagine him throwing that rule out of… more the window.
There are already seven people at the cabin. Adding Carver would make eight.
Plus there's Russell and Nick's mom to throw into the mix.
But Pete, Nick, and Luke all seem just as frightened of Carver as the rest of the group. I mean after saying you and Christa were attacked Luk… moree asks who/what they were looking for like he knew someone was looking him and his group. I also really don't think Pete, his sister, Nick and Luke would stay with a group of people who were being hunted by a guy as crazy as Carver seems to be when they they could easily just leave and Carver wouldn't know they exist and would no reason to ever hurt them.
If you remember in season 1 Episode 1 when you where at the drug store [wich lee's family owned] and fixed the radio
There was a voice in the radio and then carly mentioned :"steve..."
Could that be THE steve that Russel mentioned ?
Could be but idk because Steve is a pretty common name. Telltale themselves might not have noticed they used the same name twice but then again it is Telltale
If you remember in season 1 Episode 1 when you where at the drug store [wich lee's family owned] and fixed the radio
There was a voice in the radio and then carly mentioned :"steve..."
Could that be THE steve that Russel mentioned ?
of course not .Russell was annoyed and hated how Danny tried doing bad things refearing that he tried to rape him
So Russell wont try to do some nasty to Clem
Really? I watched a plkaythrough yesterday and one of the options you can reply with when Nate asks you to rate the girl in the group is 'Sure, whatever', after Nate suggests a 6.
So Russel can optionally think she was a six.
If she was 15, you'd think he would say that is disgusting.
Could be but idk because Steve is a pretty common name. Telltale themselves might not have noticed they used the same name twice but then again it is Telltale
Really? I watched a plkaythrough yesterday and one of the options you can reply with when Nate asks you to rate the girl in the group is 'Sure… more, whatever', after Nate suggests a 6.
So Russel can optionally think she was a six.
If she was 15, you'd think he would say that is disgusting.
Why wouldn't they leave as soon as they found out though? If Carver was originally just after the others and found out about Pete and everyone else wouldn't it make sense to split up from the group that Carver has the grudge against? I mean even if Carver was dead set on killing everyone wouldn't splitting off from the group that brought this trouble on you make sense? Especially because Carver would have to split his resources to find both groups making it even easier for Pete who has experience navigating through forests to lead his friends and family someplace safer?
Anyway I'll just say that I don't think that the Cabin group was part of Russell's and Steve's seven person group. I could certainly be wrong but it would make more sense to me if maybe after the cabin survivors all left Carver met Steve and joined/ took over what was left of his group after Russel ran.
Well even if they spilt up they would actually be easier to kill if each had a group of 2 or 3 carver could just send his entire team on them and kill them then go on to the next group. The reason Carver hasn't attacked yet is because there is a high chance of people in his group dying because its just about even. So their safety is in numbers.
And thats fine if you don't agree, I respect others opinions, my theory isn't perfect, there are holes, I just found a coincidence and pointed it out. I understand why you wouldn't agree though
Why wouldn't they leave as soon as they found out though? If Carver was originally just after the others and found out about Pete and everyone… more else wouldn't it make sense to split up from the group that Carver has the grudge against? I mean even if Carver was dead set on killing everyone wouldn't splitting off from the group that brought this trouble on you make sense? Especially because Carver would have to split his resources to find both groups making it even easier for Pete who has experience navigating through forests to lead his friends and family someplace safer?
Anyway I'll just say that I don't think that the Cabin group was part of Russell's and Steve's seven person group. I could certainly be wrong but it would make more sense to me if maybe after the cabin survivors all left Carver met Steve and joined/ took over what was left of his group after Russel ran.
I'm pretty sure Carver is the guy in the cammo jacket on slide for "A house Divided".
1- On preview of episode 2 the cammo guy shows up in the house they are in and Alvin mentions that they now who it was and Carlos says they were with cammo guy before. This suggest they have a history with this guy.
2- When you are passed out and when listening to their conversation through the door while sneaking, you learn that they think Carver might have sent clementine. ("Do you think Carver would come for us? He's not exactly the type to let things lie" Door conversation.). Also, when you meet pete and nick and tell them you got atacked they get riled up and ask if the atackers said what they were looking for or if they mentioned any names.(Fatc: Carver is looking for them. Probably hostile.)
Summing up: The survivor group was part of carver group, Carver is looking for them and is hostile, carver shows up in the house in cammo jacket.
If the guy in slide 2 is indeed Carver there are a couple of things that we can get together, more speculation than facts. The slide 2 background shows a ski lodge, the same one we see when Clementine says: I thought you were dead. Now, this is purely speculation, but my guess is: Carver is leader of a community, the survivors we met in episode 1 were members of this community and are now runaways (thiefs, maybe? - Alvin says: we are not here to steal anything when they get to the ski lodge, might be because they just met the group or some other reason, but Luke talking about going to the mountains suggests they knew where they were going.). I also think that Carver community(if there is any) might be Tavia's settlement, I have nothing to support this, just a guess based on what is already a pretty wild speculation. This does not contradict the OP, but adds some elements to think about who Carver is. PS: I Don't think it's steve, but I do like your theory, specially because of Carlos, Sarah, Rebecca and Alvin.
This guy holding the binoculars is named Troy
He could be carver but i honestly think he is the guy who said he is ( was) a cop
Or he could just be a new person
I'm pretty sure Carver is the guy in the cammo jacket on slide for "A house Divided".
1- On preview of episode 2 the cammo guy shows up in t… morehe house they are in and Alvin mentions that they now who it was and Carlos says they were with cammo guy before. This suggest they have a history with this guy.
2- When you are passed out and when listening to their conversation through the door while sneaking, you learn that they think Carver might have sent clementine. ("Do you think Carver would come for us? He's not exactly the type to let things lie" Door conversation.). Also, when you meet pete and nick and tell them you got atacked they get riled up and ask if the atackers said what they were looking for or if they mentioned any names.(Fatc: Carver is looking for them. Probably hostile.)
Summing up: The survivor group was part of carver group, Carver is looking for them and is hostile, carver shows up in the house in cammo jacket.
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This guy holding the binoculars is named Troy
He could be carver but i honestly think he is the guy who said he is ( was) a cop
Or he could just be a new person
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He asks him to rate both.
you think russell will try to do some nasty to clem
Okay, so I found a sin in your hypothesis. When Russel tells his story he's talking about a man and his daughter (maybe Carlos and Sarah), then he tells us that the man said he was a cop, but nobody believed him, also Carlos is a doctor. Also, Sarah is 15 and Russel is in his early 20s, so they aren't the same age as Russel stated.
Ho ho ho merry christmas what you guys think about carver's identity?
What if Carver wasn't in Steve's group, but with the group that attacked Roman and Shel's crew at the Pitstop (assuming that those are different groups)? Maybe Carver was behind that? We DID see Roman dead in the shootout that Nick and Pete think he instigated. Thoughts? Possible, Yes, No?
Very interesting but it seems to intricate for telltale to explain the whole scenario. It may be true, but we might just be left guessing.
Oh crap! Could be
So its not johnny right? Because I remember you saying he was just a part of carvers group.
Thank you so much! I've been trying to explain this to everyone but people were still confused about that. Much appreciated bud!
No he said there was ALSO a cop in the group and nobody believed him, not that the man who had a daughter was a cop
The first one has "binoculars" in it, and another one has "rifleAK47" in it. The picture for episode two has a man with binoculars, and a man with a rifle. There is one file that says carver, one that says johnny. My theory is that one of the two men in the cover picture for episode 2 of season 2 is Carver, and one is a man named Johnny.
Thanks! But unfortunatley like every good theory there are a few holes :P
I still think that Kenny survived,went mad and named himself Carver,
Oh I see... Thanks for pointing that out.
But Pete, Nick, and Luke all seem just as frightened of Carver as the rest of the group. I mean after saying you and Christa were attacked Luke asks who/what they were looking for like he knew someone was looking him and his group. I also really don't think Pete, his sister, Nick and Luke would stay with a group of people who were being hunted by a guy as crazy as Carver seems to be when they they could easily just leave and Carver wouldn't know they exist and would no reason to ever hurt them.
Didn't creeper confirm that the guy with the rifle was carver in another thread?
But the only time Russel does rate either is if you choose to when he gets grabbed. He ignores Nate every other time.
No what im saying is only Alvin, Rebecca, Carlos, and Sarah were part of the group and they all left Steve/Carver and then found new people to start a new group with (Luke, Nick, etc...) so naturally to get the number back up to 7 he would have to get new people into his group. Its simple math 7-5=2 then when he finds new people 2+5=7 so now he's back at 7.
Well they probably didnt know that carver was going to hunt them down.
If you remember in season 1 Episode 1 when you where at the drug store [wich lee's family owned] and fixed the radio
There was a voice in the radio and then carly mentioned :"steve..."
Could that be THE steve that Russel mentioned ?
Could be but idk because Steve is a pretty common name. Telltale themselves might not have noticed they used the same name twice but then again it is Telltale
of course not .Russell was annoyed and hated how Danny tried doing bad things refearing that he tried to rape him
So Russell wont try to do some nasty to Clem
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Really? I watched a plkaythrough yesterday and one of the options you can reply with when Nate asks you to rate the girl in the group is 'Sure, whatever', after Nate suggests a 6.
So Russel can optionally think she was a six.
If she was 15, you'd think he would say that is disgusting.
I think Steve is still not "carver" i think "carver " is the guy who said that he is [or was] a cop
Or he could be just giving Nate a sort of answer to get him to stop asking about it. That's at least how I saw it.
I do agree that Russel would think that it was disgusting if they were talking about 15 year old though. So they're probably not talking about Sarah
I dunno, maybe. I was just pointing out that it doesn't seem like Carver's first name is actually Johnny, it's probably the other man in the picture.
Why wouldn't they leave as soon as they found out though? If Carver was originally just after the others and found out about Pete and everyone else wouldn't it make sense to split up from the group that Carver has the grudge against? I mean even if Carver was dead set on killing everyone wouldn't splitting off from the group that brought this trouble on you make sense? Especially because Carver would have to split his resources to find both groups making it even easier for Pete who has experience navigating through forests to lead his friends and family someplace safer?
Anyway I'll just say that I don't think that the Cabin group was part of Russell's and Steve's seven person group. I could certainly be wrong but it would make more sense to me if maybe after the cabin survivors all left Carver met Steve and joined/ took over what was left of his group after Russel ran.
Well even if they spilt up they would actually be easier to kill if each had a group of 2 or 3 carver could just send his entire team on them and kill them then go on to the next group. The reason Carver hasn't attacked yet is because there is a high chance of people in his group dying because its just about even. So their safety is in numbers.
And thats fine if you don't agree, I respect others opinions, my theory isn't perfect, there are holes, I just found a coincidence and pointed it out. I understand why you wouldn't agree though
Its ok you may have a little mind but you're big where it counts... The heart ( I know what you pervs were thinking!)
It was just a little misunderstanding. My mind is as big as my...heart.
I'm pretty sure Carver is the guy in the cammo jacket on slide for "A house Divided".
1- On preview of episode 2 the cammo guy shows up in the house they are in and Alvin mentions that they now who it was and Carlos says they were with cammo guy before. This suggest they have a history with this guy.
2- When you are passed out and when listening to their conversation through the door while sneaking, you learn that they think Carver might have sent clementine. ("Do you think Carver would come for us? He's not exactly the type to let things lie" Door conversation.). Also, when you meet pete and nick and tell them you got atacked they get riled up and ask if the atackers said what they were looking for or if they mentioned any names.(Fatc: Carver is looking for them. Probably hostile.)
Summing up: The survivor group was part of carver group, Carver is looking for them and is hostile, carver shows up in the house in cammo jacket.
If the guy in slide 2 is indeed Carver there are a couple of things that we can get together, more speculation than facts. The slide 2 background shows a ski lodge, the same one we see when Clementine says: I thought you were dead. Now, this is purely speculation, but my guess is: Carver is leader of a community, the survivors we met in episode 1 were members of this community and are now runaways (thiefs, maybe? - Alvin says: we are not here to steal anything when they get to the ski lodge, might be because they just met the group or some other reason, but Luke talking about going to the mountains suggests they knew where they were going.). I also think that Carver community(if there is any) might be Tavia's settlement, I have nothing to support this, just a guess based on what is already a pretty wild speculation. This does not contradict the OP, but adds some elements to think about who Carver is. PS: I Don't think it's steve, but I do like your theory, specially because of Carlos, Sarah, Rebecca and Alvin.
This guy holding the binoculars is named Troy
He could be carver but i honestly think he is the guy who said he is ( was) a cop
Or he could just be a new person
The guy holding the binoculars is named troy
his file was named carver on the banner
The guy holding the binoculars is named troy
Proof :
http://walkingdead.wikia.com/wiki/Troy
Proof:
http://walkingdead.wikia.com/wiki/Troy
It could be that walkingdeadwiki didn't know his idendity either
its a wiki anyone can edit it
Russell is 18+ at least, his photo is him graduating. Sarah is 15 in s2e1, she would've been 13 or 14 when he talks to Nate.
Cool theory but no way.
The Walking Dead wiki can be edited by anyone. His name could be Troy Carver, but other than that, I'll check it out.