Popular Questions: What type of man is Carlos to do what he did to Clem?
I felt bad for Clem when she got locked in the shed like a prisoner. I know they thought she was bitten, but damn they could have brought her in the house and put her in a different room. The other scene is when she had to perform surgery on herself. That was very hard to watch. I was thinking Clem wouldn't have to go through that shit if Carlos brought her in. And yes I will stay away from his daughter for my first play through...
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A very paranoid and cautious man, really. He was a bit brash about how he did it, but he was protecting his group and his daughter. Let me compare it to the murder of Larry in the freezer- Kenny (and Lee, depending on your choice) smashed his head to mush to protect themselves and their group. Would you want to be trapped in a house with a walker? I think we're supposed to view him as an asshole at this point, and I have a feeling that will come into play later.
totally understandable reaction, to a point.
If I try to imagine myself in a similar situation, and also having an, argueably, slightly simple minded/ naieve young daughter (although this hasn't been established) and a very varied group to look after, I'd prefer to lock her in an outside shed also.
Also the shed was relatively safe from walkers, and suited to keep one in if turned.
Then again, my conscience would come into play and I probably would have lots of difficulty wrapping my head around actually locking a wounded young girl into a shed, however giving a person the benefit of the doubt in this particular case can be lethal.
All in all, depending on the past situations encountered with the group and structure of it, I likely would've done the same as Carlos.
Would you have invited the girl that shot Omid into the house? She was just a kid too.
There's no reason for the group to trust Clem.
I would have probably brought her a blanket or something though.
It is understanble to be cautious in such situation (it's the zombie apocalypse after all). However, I still don't like it. Keeping her in locked up in a shed, all alone like that, just to save some bandages and a few drops of antiseptic on the wound. He could still treat the wound and left her to her chances, that'd be much more humane. BUT I'm sure their initial mistrust has to do something with the past of the group that will discover in later episodes.
she was a teenager tho, and we know how unstable those can be
I'd rather deal with a screwed up teenager than a brainwashed child soldier to be honest.
Ofcourse, if iI had anything to say about it they'd both be locked up in the shed
I want to add, another reason for keeping Clementine even when you can have insist on being let go - they believe you might be with "Carver", so they had more than one reason for locking you up.
As for viewing him as an asshole, I don't get that sense. Everyone one of them says something you would find a little "objectionable" from Clementine's point of view: Luke treats Clementine a bit poorly when Luke finds out she was bitten (but not by what), Pete recommends to cut her arm off, Nick immediately wants to shoot her (even though he regretted it later), Alvin was wishy-washy (even though he really wanted to help), and Rebecca is a general pain in the butt.
Rebecca obviously isn't thinking straight - she's letting her emotions get the best of her. Nick let his emotions get to him, but he regretted it. Pete and Luke (and Alvin, though much less committed) seem to want to keep Clem alive, even though they a little wary themselves.
Carlos, unlike the rest of the group, was thinking in cold calculating terms. First, he could determine the source of the bite. Clementine says it's a dog bite. If it was a walker bite, the choice would have been obvious - you cut the arm off. But if she insisted it was a dog bite, then she can have the benefit of the doubt - somewhere locked up and away, to wait until time passes. If it was a walker bite, he can't waste resources on her.
Under the circumstances, he did the best he could. He didn't seem too angry that Clementine actually took supplies (except for manipulating his daughter, but that's another topic), considering that, she wasn't actually bitten by a walker AND she needed it. In fact, none of the others seem to broken up about the used supplies (considering there was a good chance, if she wasn't bitten by a walker, they would have used it on her anyway).
In any case, Carlos is not a very emotional person - except about his daughter. I doubt he will be a problem unless something comes up with his daughter.
Doesn't matter what he did, he gave Clem a death sentence. I think that if you hear them talking in the kitchen, Carlos says that Clem's wound will infect and she will be dead by morning. Carlos knew this perfectly well, being a doctor, and was still gonna let Clem die and rot. I surely know, I hate Carlos by now.
An old fashioned field trip dad
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sorry sir I try to. I will try to keep my posts spoiler free
No no, you misunderstand. Your posts are fine... it was just the thread title, which I've changed for you. You can say what you like in the thread itself!
I think he meant that if it was a walker bite, she would be dead or very sick by morning b/c if you are bitten by a walker you will get very weak/sick and die within a day.
I find his daughter fine.He said if she knew the world out there she would cease to function.You get the option of showing her your bite, she will ask if one of THOSE THINGS took a bite out of her.And when she sees the bite she will be shocked and act normally .I think Carlos is being paranoid and over protective of his daughter a little bit and i think he is a reasonable man .But Carlos didn't threatened her he asked to stay away from his daughter.
i dont trust puke.
I felt that it was completely unnecessary to lock a child in a dirty shed and not treat the wound. Being a doctor he should have known that an untreated wound that big would cause an infection and a fever anyway, be it a walker bite or not, which would make his fail-safe plan redundant unless that's the outcome he wanted in the first place.
Granted I'm be biased because we playing as the said child and not as someone from the group, but she had a lot happen to her in a single day (barring Omid's death in the beginning due to being several months ago) and locking her up in the shed with no help was the final straw for me.
In the end, I guess there's no right or wrong way of dealing with the situation, considering what the apocalypse can bring out in people, especially the kids.
I think he's season two's equivalent of Kenny. He'll do whatever it takes to keep the outside world away from his family - meaning zombies, and other survivors.
I understand that he/they want to cover their asses and decide to lock her there. I understand he didn't want to let her go because Carver. But why keep her there and make her go through all that when he knew she was probably going to die? He says so during the kitchen meeting, if you stick around long enough to hear it. Trying to see things from his POV, if he didn't care about her and was counting on her dying, why not kill her in the first place instead of letting her die from a nasty infection? Even if part of the group didn't agree, they'd still probably go along with it after the other incident with Nick's mom. So yeah, I don't like that guy at all. Unnecessarily cruel of him. I've come to a point that I no longer regret pinky-promising Sarah to be her friend just so I can piss him off by not staying away from her.
I agree completely. Carlos was probably a good guy before everything went down, and I think there's a chance he can come back from it, should he learn to trust Clementine. That's all up to you, though - will you give him a reason to trust you?
Infections very rarely kill that quickly.
I think that he's convinced that an infection will kill her if it's a walker bite, and is also convinced that it's a walker bite. Even if the dog in question has been eating out of a bucket of ebola, it's not going to kill you by morning.
Well, they eventually did come back before it was morning. So, I'm guessing after the meeting they did decide to help Clem.
It could be that they heard noise and came to investigate, but it didn't seem like that to me.