Carlos(Carver!) and Clem showdown.

With the father/daughter duo (Carlos and Sarah) mirroring Lee and Clem's relationship (to a point); there is something I really want to see come out of this. I want a conversation with Carlos and Clem where Carlos bashes Lee for not doing his job as guardian as well as he himself is doing with his daughter. The reactions from Clem could be as far ranging as tears or an angry scowl, to an all out attack on Carlos's face. Oddly specific I know, but one can hope right? :)

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  • edited December 2013

    Clem: "Bitch, what did you say!?!?!?!?"

  • I can only imagine how bad Carlos would look after Clem got a hold of him...

    Clem: "Bitch, what did you say!?!?!?!?"

  • I can't be the only one who thinks this would be an extremely powerful scene though, right?

  • That would be cool, but that would also cause Clementine to get kicked out of the group if she attacks the only doctor of the group.

  • More of a behind closed doors scene. And also by attack him I don't mean attempt to kill him, but slap him or something like that. Let him know to back off. Doubt she would be kicked out for a little overreaction (or perfect amount of reation from our point of view).

    That would be cool, but that would also cause Clementine to get kicked out of the group if she attacks the only doctor of the group.

  • CARLOS YOU DONT TALK ABOUT LEE OR I BITCH SKAP YOU MUTHAFUCKA

  • Sarah kind of reminded me of what would happen to clem if he never taught her how to shoot and just kept on dishing out hugs when he should be covering katjaa and duck, Lee's only ben moment.

  • If Carlos was smart, he would stay out of Clem's way and be nice to her.

  • But that would be boring. They can't have that :P

    If Carlos was smart, he would stay out of Clem's way and be nice to her.

  • I agree that it would be an empowering scene, it would fill us and Clementine full of rage. We would feel that he was bashing our choices and hard work as Lee in season 1 and Clem by saying the person that protected her up until his last breath was a failure. I never really lose my temper and don't stoop to the level of dicks but that would make me want to smash his old face in.

  • Exactly! 'Yeah that guy who gave his life to keep you alive, he sucks.' I would have nearly as much emotion in this scene as I did in season one's end. The reactions of Clem would be the best part though.

    I agree that it would be an empowering scene, it would fill us and Clementine full of rage. We would feel that he was bashing our choices and

  • I think she would be sad, angry but also confused. Why would anyone call this man, her protector and some might even say father a shoddy excuse of a man? After everything they have been through and she is told that it was all for nothing. Telltale really need to make this happen and write down a statistic for how everyone reacted. (?) You slapped Carlos in the face - (?) Carlos will remember that

    Viva-La-Lee posted: »

    Exactly! 'Yeah that guy who gave his life to keep you alive, he sucks.' I would have nearly as much emotion in this scene as I did in season one's end. The reactions of Clem would be the best part though.

  • Carlos putting down Lee in front of Clem would put him right at the top of my kill list.

  • You never know who's skulking around the forums ... they could be watching right now. Telltale say they love to see fan feedback so you never know.

    Viva-La-Lee posted: »

    Could start out with Clem trying to give Carlos helpful tips about how to slowly adapt Sarah to this new world and he takes it the wrong way,

  • Could start out with Clem trying to give Carlos helpful tips about how to slowly adapt Sarah to this new world and he takes it the wrong way, replying with how he is doing a better job that Lee ever did. (Of course rephrased better lol) I'm fairly sure the statistics for how many people slapped him would be astronomically one sided. I really wish their was a way for them to see this post :P

    I think she would be sad, angry but also confused. Why would anyone call this man, her protector and some might even say father a shoddy excus

  • Indeed, even if he didn't mean it in a hurtful way it would still make me furious!

    Carlos putting down Lee in front of Clem would put him right at the top of my kill list.

  • How could he say something like that WITHOUT being intentionally hurtful?

    Viva-La-Lee posted: »

    Indeed, even if he didn't mean it in a hurtful way it would still make me furious!

  • True. If only there was a way to put a star or something beside the post to catch their attention lol.

    You never know who's skulking around the forums ... they could be watching right now. Telltale say they love to see fan feedback so you never know.

  • edited December 2013

    There we go, we've got this in the bag now ;) Alt text

    Viva-La-Lee posted: »

    True. If only there was a way to put a star or something beside the post to catch their attention lol.

  • Carlos and Sarah are pretty much the opposite of Lee and Clem either way, they don't need to make it this obvious.

  • Clementine: I've seen what's out there. I lived, and I'm younger and smaller than she is.
    Carlos: You came here cold, bitten, and alone while she was warm in her bed. I don't care that you have lived, she has thrived. Whatever this "Lee" has taught you obviously pales in comparison to what I have done for my daughter!

    I'm not a writer, but it's possible :P

    How could he say something like that WITHOUT being intentionally hurtful?

  • Seriously laughing loud right now. xD

    There we go, we've got this in the bag now

  • I aim to please :D

    Viva-La-Lee posted: »

    Seriously laughing loud right now. xD

  • It would just push the already known fact that Carlos doesn't agree that Sarah should be shown what the world is, but doing it in an emotionally testing way.

    zyoxo posted: »

    Carlos and Sarah are pretty much the opposite of Lee and Clem either way, they don't need to make it this obvious.

  • edited December 2013

    Alt text

    Finally, a good place to use my GIF

  • I can definitely see Carlos being deluded enough to claim Sarah has "thrived".

    Viva-La-Lee posted: »

    Clementine: I've seen what's out there. I lived, and I'm younger and smaller than she is. Carlos: You came here cold, bitten, and alone while

  • Saved, It shall be ready whenever some disagrees with something I say :D

    JakeSt123 posted: »

    Finally, a good place to use my GIF

  • Omid and Christa had her a lot longer than Lee did. Wouldnt he be more likely to bash them?

  • Thing is, how didn't Lee do his Job. Shes still alive when 99% of the world is dead or undead, sounds like a good job to me

  • For this scene to happen it would need to take place after a conversation where Clem talks about Lee. Since we as the players (and ergo her) care more about Lee than the other two we would talk about him being the one who taught us vs Omid and Christa; where he would then say Lee didn't do a good job etc. etc.

    KCohere posted: »

    Omid and Christa had her a lot longer than Lee did. Wouldnt he be more likely to bash them?

  • That's why the scene will be compelling. We did our job of protecting her as Lee and we know what a good job we did but Carlos will bash him for not keeping her sheltered from the "real world" or leaving her alone in a world like this.

    X3Holy3 posted: »

    Thing is, how didn't Lee do his Job. Shes still alive when 99% of the world is dead or undead, sounds like a good job to me

  • He did from our point of view, which is one reason Clem would react the way she would (with anger). From Carlos's point of view she was walking alone in the woods fending off walkers by herself, hungry, got attacked by a dog, and again completely alone. That could be viewed by Carlos as not being able to keep her safe like he himself has done with Sarah.

    X3Holy3 posted: »

    Thing is, how didn't Lee do his Job. Shes still alive when 99% of the world is dead or undead, sounds like a good job to me

  • You do realize Lee's been dead for over a year now,

    Viva-La-Lee posted: »

    He did from our point of view, which is one reason Clem would react the way she would (with anger). From Carlos's point of view she was walkin

  • How do you save it?

    Saved, It shall be ready whenever some disagrees with something I say

  • Right click, save image as.

    Viva-La-Lee posted: »

    How do you save it?

  • And if he had been a good guardian (Carlos's PoV) she would be in a cabin with candles, medical supplies, and a bed with blankets.

    X3Holy3 posted: »

    You do realize Lee's been dead for over a year now,

  • Thanks :D

    Right click, save image as.

  • I really like this idea. It'd be great if Carlos could call back to specific things either from a Season 1 save or to choices you've made as Clem so far, like Campman did.

  • edited December 2013

    Campman?

    EDIT: Oh, the Stranger, the guy who kidnapped Clem in Season 1. My comment now has no purpose for existing.

    I really like this idea. It'd be great if Carlos could call back to specific things either from a Season 1 save or to choices you've made as Clem so far, like Campman did.

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