Reused character-models

edited December 2013 in The Walking Dead

I think it's totally ok, to use some of the same walkers and stuff. But it did annoy me, that the couple from the room in "No Time Left", that had killed itself on the bed, now lies in the group that was killed on the river. The man is looked at by Nick. And the woman lies on the other side in a somewhat awkward position. (to me it looked like they took her body and just put it there in the same position as on the bed, but flipped over)

Was I the only one to notice? Is that supposed to be some sort of easter-egg?

Anyway I didn't like it.

update: So, just to show what I mean, i made some screenshots

The Couple in Season 1:Alt text

The Woman in Season 2:Alt text

The Man in Season 2:Alt text

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  • I thought that woman looked like Anna Correa, the women from the Crawford tapes. :P

  • edited December 2013

    Ok maybe the female isn't her. But she seemed to me.

    The guy lies in the same poistion, that the guy on the bed in episode 5 lied. So on him I'm pretty sure.

    edit: So i went back to look, and the woman the one from the room in episode 5. And also lying in the same position.

  • Was a little bit disappointed when I saw the bed dude, but hey, the game is amazing.

  • Aaaw Made. I was so proud to have recognized Anna Correa. You crushed all my dreams.
    But good job. :p

  • Thats the price of releasing the game on basis quicker, quicker deadline in a week!!!

  • I don't mind beating in the same walker's head five times. But these two models were quite prominent. They were the center of the scene in episode 5. And therefore quite memorable. So that bugs me more than reusing walkers over and over again.

    zenonek2000 posted: »

    Thats the price of releasing the game on basis quicker, quicker deadline in a week!!!

  • yep they keep re-using models like this bandit uses re-colored model of vernon...
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  • edited January 2014

    But at least recolored. Those two on the river are exactly the same. Even the position they lie in. They could have put them in different clothes at least. Like I said, they were the center-piece of that room in "No Time Left" and therefore very memorable. And then you see them in the same position wearing the same clothes on the river.

    edit: The man even looks "wrong" on the river. He should have been recoloured simply for fitting better in the lighting of the scene.

    Vegetto posted: »

    yep they keep re-using models like this bandit uses re-colored model of vernon...

  • I didn't even notice that. They both became bandits in the end I suppose.

    Vegetto posted: »

    yep they keep re-using models like this bandit uses re-colored model of vernon...

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    Andy and Roman were the only ones I really noticed looking re used, others share simalrities but thats all.

  • The difference is though: Roman got his head shaved and the beard a little darker and different clothes. The two on the river are completely identical to the couple in episode 5.

    So I guess what bugs me is not the reuse of a "model" as such. That saves time in production and I'm ok with that. But at least put them in different clothes or something.

    Andy and Roman were the only ones I really noticed looking re used, others share simalrities but thats all.

  • Katjaa and Brenda were reused model to I think.

    Andy and Roman were the only ones I really noticed looking re used, others share simalrities but thats all.

  • They also re-used logan(zombie doctor at crawford) he is the zombie pete kills when they get to the river.

  • The bodies in Episode 5 at the river were just an easter egg,I believe.

  • I tend to think the same. Since they weren't changed at all. Unlike other re-used people. Where they put effort in at least change the clothes, the hair and tweak the face here and there a bit at least.

    Araron posted: »

    The bodies in Episode 5 at the river were just an easter egg,I believe.

  • Anna Correa and Christa used the same model. I think Russell was made using Omid's base model, as well. There's also a total of like..maybe 10 zombie models. Or so, so seeing the same zombie a lot is both funny and confusing. But twdg is a lot smaller than you'd think. If they made new models for everything and put them all in, it would lag to all hell and would also take much, much longer to make. So, all in all, I don't really mind. I find the reuse of models actually kind of entertaining. At least with reused models like the bed-couple, you're not sitting there making theories on who new characters are and how they got there. : >

  • Yeah i agree on the point totally, these are in a bit wrong place, players attention is being put to both situations by the game itsself for some stupid reason...

    Made posted: »

    I don't mind beating in the same walker's head five times. But these two models were quite prominent. They were the center of the scene in episode 5. And therefore quite memorable. So that bugs me more than reusing walkers over and over again.

  • Ctrl+c ; Ctrl+v ; Ctrl = Troll

    Made posted: »

    But at least recolored. Those two on the river are exactly the same. Even the position they lie in. They could have put them in different clot

  • Why don't you like reusing character models? I mean people look like people. This guy Siiss above me is talking about Russell was made using Omid's base model. cmon people, their not important characters if there put into the game later being dead. It isn't a big deal to me if some characters look like other characters

  • I would be tempted to say that was intended

    Vegetto posted: »

    They also re-used logan(zombie doctor at crawford) he is the zombie pete kills when they get to the river.

  • edited January 2014

    The difference is, that they are people made out of these models not just copied. Which I am ok with. They put them in different clothes with different hair and maybe tweak some minor details (eyebrows or something). So you can tell that they reused the same base model but still can point to differences they have. I don't see a need for building every character from scratch. The episodes take too much time to make as it ist.

    In that one case in my opening post however. The situation is, they changed nothing. Same clothes, same position, same hair, even same blood-splatters. And a memorable couple (because of how the scene was staged in episode 5) to be reused like this is not the same.

    They are not looking somewhat similar, like Brenda and Katjaa, Roman and Andy or Stephanie and Carley. They look exactly the same. And they don't move. The other examples of reused models are moving (meaning they have actual scenes where they do stuff). So to keep them in the same position as in their scene in episode 5 adds to the recognizability of those two.

    X3Holy3 posted: »

    Why don't you like reusing character models? I mean people look like people. This guy Siiss above me is talking about Russell was made using O

  • It's that they're the EXACT same, even that scene was used in the first trailer so it's just annoying more than anything.

    This is part of the reason why I think it isn't Roman there, just a reused model. Why else would he be up north, without anyone else from his old group.

    X3Holy3 posted: »

    Why don't you like reusing character models? I mean people look like people. This guy Siiss above me is talking about Russell was made using O

  • Glenn and Vince, Andy and Roman, Stephanie and Carley, Shel and Lilly, Marcus Crabtree and Lee, Russell and Travis/Omid, Brenda and Tavia.

    The list goes on.

  • Hmm, interesting. I didn't notice a few of these myself.

    JakeSt123 posted: »

    Glenn and Vince, Andy and Roman, Stephanie and Carley, Shel and Lilly, Marcus Crabtree and Lee, Russell and Travis/Omid, Brenda and Tavia. The list goes on.

  • Is the guy next to the girl Leland?

  • edited January 2014

    But none of those look exactly the same, as do the two people on the river.

    I don't mind those you put here, because you can tell them apart, they only use the same basic model, but change some accessoires (or whatever you wanna call it), but those two here look exactly identical, with even the same blood splatters on their faces and lying in exactly the same position. Even making the lighting on the male one look somewhat off for not adapting it to the new scene.

    JakeSt123 posted: »

    Glenn and Vince, Andy and Roman, Stephanie and Carley, Shel and Lilly, Marcus Crabtree and Lee, Russell and Travis/Omid, Brenda and Tavia. The list goes on.

  • No, he looks quite similar to Mark though.

    Is the guy next to the girl Leland?

  • Nick having a slightly reskinned version of Kenny's hair annoyed me. Especially with the possibility of Kenny returning.

  • I saw that character model in the trailer, I didn't think they'd actually reuse something so obvious in the final product.. But it's there.

  • edited January 2014

    No. There may be a similarity in the eye shape between Andy and Roman, but otherwise they're different and other than they're both older women with bob cut hair, Brenda and Katjaa have very different faces. Really, people are pretty boring. How often do you see people who look like other people you know? There's really only so many faces to go around, even in real life.

    Andy and Roman were the only ones I really noticed looking re used, others share simalrities but thats all.

  • edited January 2014

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    zenonek2000 posted: »

    Ctrl+c ; Ctrl+v ; Ctrl = Troll

  • lol humor found

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  • Here, let me help you with that...
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    hihitwd posted: »

    http://imgur.com/Zg2kwIG

  • edited January 2014

    I'm sure, we'll see much more S1 models, just look carefully.

  • How do you put the picture up? I tried to put the link with the command image and the link in the "link" part, and the picture didn't appear. Do you know what's the problem?

    Here, let me help you with that...

  • See and that's why keep saying the body of carly in 400 days was just something to mess with us. Carly is alive. 400 days body was a reused-model

  • Mark and katjaa

  • edited January 2014

    This is quite true. I think I see some similarities in some of them. For example:

    • Russell is using a retextured Omid's Head and a body quite similar to Ben's.
    • Bonnie is using Carley's jacket body.
    • Stephanie is (this could be wrong) one of the Zombies they had in one of the previous episodes, but I can't remember which.
    • That model that is a reused Vernon, as you said.
    • The couple you mentioned.
    • Roman using one of the St. John brother's heads, as mentioned by Wallcano

    Evidently Telltale likes to re-use a lot of their resources and I do not care. But in the long run it gets to the point where, just like the voices, you can tell who was the original owner. Like:

    • Shel has the same VA as Katjaa
    • Justin has (clearly) the same VA as Ben.
    • Pete has the same VA as the St. Johns brother that sits guard. (A fresh pair of organs for dinner? Mmm... Wouldn't that be nice.)

    The list goes on, of course, but I am really glad Telltale brought in new voice talents for the new season.

    Vegetto posted: »

    yep they keep re-using models like this bandit uses re-colored model of vernon...

  • edited January 2014

    Thing is, if they were clearly re-using the corpses, why would they show us the couple on the bed in the preview video?

    That makes me think that using those specific models there symbolises something, but I'm not sure what yet.

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