As for the thread itself, as with most things in TWD, it depends on the situation, and with that in mind sometimes sacrifices must be made for the greater good. Rebecca has clearly shown she doesnt like clem, dispite the circumstances. Depending on the events that take place, it will be completely acceptable, or very wrong. Regardless, as Riadon said, no one should get off easy, everyone is equal in this world.
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1) Always. They should be treated just the same as anyone else. post ZA there's no time for sympathy and i think it would be a pretty dumb thing to go getting pregnant with walkers everywhere anyway.
I just hope they don't put me in a scenario where Rebecca just birth and is in too much pain to walk. Walkers are coming, do I rip the baby out of her hands and run or leave both to die.
1) Always. They should be treated just the same as anyone else. post ZA there's no time for sympathy and i think it would be a pretty dumb thing to go getting pregnant with walkers everywhere anyway.
Actually i think that would be a very interesting choice for the player to make, some would use it as an act of revenge against her, some would have pity on her and help her, and some would leave them both to die. This has the chance to be a very interesting choice for the player to make, useally its either choice A or B, this would make it between choices A, B, and C.
I say do it, im all for multiple choices, the outcome of that would be quite interesting.
I just hope they don't put me in a scenario where Rebecca just birth and is in too much pain to walk. Walkers are coming, do I rip the baby out of her hands and run or leave both to die.
My guess that future generations in The Walker World, although may be few, would be the 'pure bloods' at surviving, since they are literally BORN into this kind of world. A whole generation of badass... think about it....
Nope, we would be killing pregnant mothers to survive. The baby dies as a result, but a baby is not an "active" threat, meaning that you need… moren't kill the baby itself because that is just pointless. Being pregnant does not mean that someone is docile and harmless. Obviously it is not a good long-term view for humanity as a whole to adopt, but it is beneficial for the survival of our specific group. Also, from a gameplay perspective, taking care of a baby would be one of the most annoying things that could be put in the game
Also, are your comments being cut off? I have to keep editing to have my entire comment displayed.
Not that extreme. I only contend that pregnant women shouldn't be elevated above other members of the group just because they are pregnant. If Rebecca is holding another member of the group as a hostage, you can be sure that I am going to shoot her. I am not going to promote pointlessly killing babies, but I sure as hell don't want to have to take care of one as a gameplay mechanic.
Well, they could treat the baby like they treated clem in season 1, which could work..... I think.... Surely theres a way they could implement it to make it work and not be nothing more then annoying. We will be involved somehow, im sure alvin will take care of the kid, assuming its his, atleast. But if not, i dont see why clem would, considering how Rebecca has treated her (thus far) chances are it may be an option and not a important part of the story.
Not that extreme. I only contend that pregnant women shouldn't be elevated above other members of the group just because they are pregnant. … moreIf Rebecca is holding another member of the group as a hostage, you can be sure that I am going to shoot her. I am not going to promote pointlessly killing babies, but I sure as hell don't want to have to take care of one as a gameplay mechanic.
maybe if she was bit? what kind of fucked question is when is it acceptable to kill a pregnant women psycho? geez people come up with some stupid topics to talk about between episodes.
This thread is sick. It would not be acceptable to kill a pregnant woman. Only time this is acceptable is if she's infected, getting ready to die from C- Section (Lori Walking Dead Show), or if she wants you to end her life. Killing a woman who's with child because anger issues is wrong. There's no need to say Rebecca should die. She's just trying to do what's best for her and her group. She does not trust new people in the group because they might be infected and put the baby at risk. She can be a nice person once you get to know her. She is harsh because when she seen that bite on Clem's arm first thing to come to her mind was,'' Oh no she's bite, this could put the baby and group at risk. When your with child you go through anger issues and emotions. According to episode 2 Rebecca seems to be nice to Clem now that she knows she was not bitten. Depending on what you chose when you met her will determine if she's still mean or not. In conclusion it is not acceptable to kill any with child women. Mods this thread is sick.
This thread is sick. It would not be acceptable to kill a pregnant woman. Only time this is acceptable is if she's infected, getting ready to … moredie from C- Section (Lori Walking Dead Show), or if she wants you to end her life. Killing a woman who's with child because anger issues is wrong. There's no need to say Rebecca should die. She's just trying to do what's best for her and her group. She does not trust new people in the group because they might be infected and put the baby at risk. She can be a nice person once you get to know her. She is harsh because when she seen that bite on Clem's arm first thing to come to her mind was,'' Oh no she's bite, this could put the baby and group at risk. When your with child you go through anger issues and emotions. According to episode 2 Rebecca seems to be nice to Clem now that she knows she was not bitten. Depending on what you chose when you met her will determine if she's still mean or not. In conclusion it is not acceptable to kill any with child women. Mods this thread is sick.
Yea I'm disgusted by the thread and some posts here. Calling Rebecca a slut is just wrong.... They wouldn't like it if their mom was with child and was like Rebecca and called her a slut and say she should die. We just started the season so people don't know shit about Rebecca. All we know is she's with child and is a strong woman who will do and say anything to protect the group. There is no evidence she's a slut. She never once tried hitting on Pete, Carlos, Luke, or Alvin. She's a loyal woman who just made mistakes in her life. She's also loyal. So people need to leave Rebecca alone geesh. Lori was the same way but that doesn't mean she's a slut. Lori and shane thought Rick was dead that's why they did what they did. Lori was confused who the baby was. I think the baby was Shane's because rick was in the hospital for awhile. Anyway people who hate Rebecca needs to leave her alone....
Clementine worked because of her personality and the way Telltale made her interact with you. What is a baby going to do, outside of screaming and crying? What is going to distinguish a baby and make it a good character of its own? You can't really even give a baby a unique personality, or even distinguish between personalities outside of the generic "loud baby" and "quiet baby". Not to mention that most people are annoyed by babies in general that are not their own, and even those that are their own for many.
Anyways, as I said earlier, I don't care if there is a baby in the group. I just don't want to be forced to take care of it as Clementine.
Well, they could treat the baby like they treated clem in season 1, which could work..... I think.... Surely theres a way they could implement… more it to make it work and not be nothing more then annoying. We will be involved somehow, im sure alvin will take care of the kid, assuming its his, atleast. But if not, i dont see why clem would, considering how Rebecca has treated her (thus far) chances are it may be an option and not a important part of the story.
Yea I'm disgusted by the thread and some posts here. Calling Rebecca a slut is just wrong.... They wouldn't like it if their mom was with chil… mored and was like Rebecca and called her a slut and say she should die. We just started the season so people don't know shit about Rebecca. All we know is she's with child and is a strong woman who will do and say anything to protect the group. There is no evidence she's a slut. She never once tried hitting on Pete, Carlos, Luke, or Alvin. She's a loyal woman who just made mistakes in her life. She's also loyal. So people need to leave Rebecca alone geesh. Lori was the same way but that doesn't mean she's a slut. Lori and shane thought Rick was dead that's why they did what they did. Lori was confused who the baby was. I think the baby was Shane's because rick was in the hospital for awhile. Anyway people who hate Rebecca needs to leave her alone....
I agree, though i do think we will be involved in a way, im pretty sure it wont be a huge part, probably something minor, and thats assuming Rebecca even succeds in having a child, which for all we know might not even happen. It might be dependent on the choices the player makes, which could make things interesting i suppose. How do you think/hope they will handle this "Rebecca's child" situation?
Clementine worked because of her personality and the way Telltale made her interact with you. What is a baby going to do, outside of screamin… moreg and crying? What is going to distinguish a baby and make it a good character of its own? You can't really even give a baby a unique personality, or even distinguish between personalities outside of the generic "loud baby" and "quiet baby". Not to mention that most people are annoyed by babies in general that are not their own, and even those that are their own for many.
Anyways, as I said earlier, I don't care if there is a baby in the group. I just don't want to be forced to take care of it as Clementine.
How about this: Would you be willing to sacrifice Clementine's life to save Rebecca and her unborn child? I don't think it will come to that, but I will do whatever it takes to keep Clem safe.
You're right; humanity probably wont survive, but in all honesty I care more about Clementine than the rest of humanity.
How about this: Would you be willing to sacrifice Clementine's life to save Rebecca and her unborn child? I don't think it will come to that, … morebut I will do whatever it takes to keep Clem safe.
You're right; humanity probably wont survive, but in all honesty I care more about Clementine than the rest of humanity.
I really think people are jumping on the Rebecca hate train way too soon. I mean, I get it if you're a bit upset with her, but to the point of… more wanting to kill her and the baby?
I'm giving her a chance regardless of her pissy mood. She IS pregnant and in a stressful situation, after all.
I tried to be as nice as I could to her in my playthrough.
You both forget one key thing, this is the ZA, and sure, in the real world it wouldnt be right, but this is The Walking Dead, there is a time for everything, including this. And "professional help"? hardly, seeing how this is opinion based, (though i suppose he could have changed the title a bit to make it specificly about rebecca) It all depends on the situation, thats the key element to this. Child or not its no excuse for her to act that way. And why would she even think of having a child in a world like this, is she crazy? i will give her the benifite of the doubt and say it wasnt intentional, but still.
You cant possibly believe that there is absolutely no time, reason, or situation in TWD where thats acceptable? what if your LIFE is at stake and she stands in your way? what about clem, if rebecca turns on clem and tries to kill her, is clem wrong for defending herself? or rebecca for starting this crap in the first place? everyone is equal in this, rebecca is no exception. Sure, its wrong in our world, but in TWD, there is surely a point where enough is enough.
Someone is taking this thread too literally. In real life it's unacceptable to kill ANYONE unless they are trying to harm you or anyone else. And I would like to think humanity would eventually develop some kind of community and be able to live semi-normally again. Of course in fiction these always fall but using TLOU as an example, there are "safe" zones where humans can repopulate and grow.
This thread is sick. It would not be acceptable to kill a pregnant woman. Only time this is acceptable is if she's infected, getting ready to … moredie from C- Section (Lori Walking Dead Show), or if she wants you to end her life. Killing a woman who's with child because anger issues is wrong. There's no need to say Rebecca should die. She's just trying to do what's best for her and her group. She does not trust new people in the group because they might be infected and put the baby at risk. She can be a nice person once you get to know her. She is harsh because when she seen that bite on Clem's arm first thing to come to her mind was,'' Oh no she's bite, this could put the baby and group at risk. When your with child you go through anger issues and emotions. According to episode 2 Rebecca seems to be nice to Clem now that she knows she was not bitten. Depending on what you chose when you met her will determine if she's still mean or not. In conclusion it is not acceptable to kill any with child women. Mods this thread is sick.
Okay I'm done commenting now because people are just gonna try to put me down lol. if you thibk its okay to kill pregnate women then that's what you think XD. I respect your thoughts.
Someone is taking this thread too literally. In real life it's unacceptable to kill ANYONE unless they are trying to harm you or anyone else. … moreAnd I would like to think humanity would eventually develop some kind of community and be able to live semi-normally again. Of course in fiction these always fall but using TLOU as an example, there are "safe" zones where humans can repopulate and grow.
How about this: Would you be willing to sacrifice Clementine's life to save Rebecca and her unborn child? I don't think it will come to that, … morebut I will do whatever it takes to keep Clem safe.
You're right; humanity probably wont survive, but in all honesty I care more about Clementine than the rest of humanity.
That's one way to look at it. I take her personality into consideration when I make decisions, but it isn't the deciding factor. I play as myself, meaning that I am nice until it is time not to be nice.
Anyways, I don't think Clementine would sacrifice herself to save a pregnant woman who was a complete bitch to her, baby or not. Lee wouldn't want it, and nothing in Clementine's personality suggests that she would go that far. She is focused on her own survival, not that of total strangers. It's easy to take the moral high ground when you aren't involved in the situation.
If it is born successfully, I hope that it serves mainly to add some depth to Rebecca's character. She is severely lacking in any sort of depth at the moment, so the baby could be her redemption. We may be shown that she possesses the capacity to be a good mother, that she isn't just a straight up cold-hearted bitch. I don't mind interacting with it as Clementine, but not for extended periods of time and not in a negative way (changing diaper? fuck that).
What I hope they DON'T do is make the baby a central character. Oh, the group now exists for the single-minded purpose of protecting the baby? No, everyone needs to continue doing their own thing after the baby is born. The baby is Rebecca's/Alvin's problem, it needn't be treated like some supernatural being that the entire group must crowd around, stupefied by its very existence. So basically, I hope that the baby doesn't change the overall direction of the season.
I agree, though i do think we will be involved in a way, im pretty sure it wont be a huge part, probably something minor, and thats assuming R… moreebecca even succeds in having a child, which for all we know might not even happen. It might be dependent on the choices the player makes, which could make things interesting i suppose. How do you think/hope they will handle this "Rebecca's child" situation?
If there's gonna be a chance...I don't think I'd kill Rebecca. EVEN if she's a dick with Clem and even if I blackmailed her. I don't want the blood of a woman and an unborn child on Clem's hands.
I think Clementine would be pretty badass if she sacrificed herself for someone she once hated. Granted, I would be sad as f**k and would go on a riot, but that would be a Kenny moment for her:
Nothing else matters, I don't care that you were a dick to me, just get out of here.
I would still hate it, though, so you are kind of right; I would not be able to play any future seasons without Clementine. She probably wouldn't realistically do that anyway; she's only 11.
How about this: Would you be willing to sacrifice Clementine's life to save Rebecca and her unborn child? I don't think it will come to that, … morebut I will do whatever it takes to keep Clem safe.
You're right; humanity probably wont survive, but in all honesty I care more about Clementine than the rest of humanity.
Exactly.. So far she's just been a bit rude and has her own worries but done nothing yet to deserve being killed.
Personally I would only kill anyone, male or female, pregnant or not, if they were a threat to my survival.
In my playthrough, I didn't say anything to Rebecca about whose baby is it.. I didn't care.. Makes no difference to my Clem who just needed to sew her arm and get some food. But, the moment I feel Rebecca may try to harm Clem, then yes, whatever it takes to survive.
I really think people are jumping on the Rebecca hate train way too soon. I mean, I get it if you're a bit upset with her, but to the point of… more wanting to kill her and the baby?
I'm giving her a chance regardless of her pissy mood. She IS pregnant and in a stressful situation, after all.
I tried to be as nice as I could to her in my playthrough.
i said before the only reason that thought should even enter your head is if she is bitten. but that's common sense and doesn't need a whole thread to discuss it. the op makes it sound like "geez this ladies a bitch lets cap this hoe, mwahhahahaha and go burn puppies"
You both forget one key thing, this is the ZA, and sure, in the real world it wouldnt be right, but this is The Walking Dead, there is a time … morefor everything, including this. And "professional help"? hardly, seeing how this is opinion based, (though i suppose he could have changed the title a bit to make it specificly about rebecca) It all depends on the situation, thats the key element to this. Child or not its no excuse for her to act that way. And why would she even think of having a child in a world like this, is she crazy? i will give her the benifite of the doubt and say it wasnt intentional, but still.
You cant possibly believe that there is absolutely no time, reason, or situation in TWD where thats acceptable? what if your LIFE is at stake and she stands in your way? what about clem, if rebecca turns on clem and tries to kill her, is clem wrong for defending herself? or rebecca for starting this crap in the first place? everyone is equ… [view original content]
Okay I'm done commenting now because people are just gonna try to put me down lol. if you thibk its okay to kill pregnate women then that's what you think XD. I respect your thoughts.
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As for the thread itself, as with most things in TWD, it depends on the situation, and with that in mind sometimes sacrifices must be made for the greater good. Rebecca has clearly shown she doesnt like clem, dispite the circumstances. Depending on the events that take place, it will be completely acceptable, or very wrong. Regardless, as Riadon said, no one should get off easy, everyone is equal in this world.
I would go with 6.
Well, aren't you just Mr. Optimistic?
1) Always. They should be treated just the same as anyone else. post ZA there's no time for sympathy and i think it would be a pretty dumb thing to go getting pregnant with walkers everywhere anyway.
I just hope they don't put me in a scenario where Rebecca just birth and is in too much pain to walk. Walkers are coming, do I rip the baby out of her hands and run or leave both to die.
Well, that escalated quickly...could it be that you just want a reason to kill that slut Rebecca?
How else is humanity going to survive? Are full grown men just going to appear out of nowhere and repopulate the earth?
Actually i think that would be a very interesting choice for the player to make, some would use it as an act of revenge against her, some would have pity on her and help her, and some would leave them both to die. This has the chance to be a very interesting choice for the player to make, useally its either choice A or B, this would make it between choices A, B, and C.
I say do it, im all for multiple choices, the outcome of that would be quite interesting.
My guess that future generations in The Walker World, although may be few, would be the 'pure bloods' at surviving, since they are literally BORN into this kind of world. A whole generation of badass... think about it....
Seems you have a Crawford mentality..... they all died if I remember correctly. Over killing a baby, poetic justice I guess.
When the baby is yours and you don't want your wife to find out.
Not that extreme. I only contend that pregnant women shouldn't be elevated above other members of the group just because they are pregnant. If Rebecca is holding another member of the group as a hostage, you can be sure that I am going to shoot her. I am not going to promote pointlessly killing babies, but I sure as hell don't want to have to take care of one as a gameplay mechanic.
Well, they could treat the baby like they treated clem in season 1, which could work..... I think.... Surely theres a way they could implement it to make it work and not be nothing more then annoying. We will be involved somehow, im sure alvin will take care of the kid, assuming its his, atleast. But if not, i dont see why clem would, considering how Rebecca has treated her (thus far) chances are it may be an option and not a important part of the story.
maybe if she was bit? what kind of fucked question is when is it acceptable to kill a pregnant women psycho? geez people come up with some stupid topics to talk about between episodes.
This thread is sick. It would not be acceptable to kill a pregnant woman. Only time this is acceptable is if she's infected, getting ready to die from C- Section (Lori Walking Dead Show), or if she wants you to end her life. Killing a woman who's with child because anger issues is wrong. There's no need to say Rebecca should die. She's just trying to do what's best for her and her group. She does not trust new people in the group because they might be infected and put the baby at risk. She can be a nice person once you get to know her. She is harsh because when she seen that bite on Clem's arm first thing to come to her mind was,'' Oh no she's bite, this could put the baby and group at risk. When your with child you go through anger issues and emotions. According to episode 2 Rebecca seems to be nice to Clem now that she knows she was not bitten. Depending on what you chose when you met her will determine if she's still mean or not. In conclusion it is not acceptable to kill any with child women. Mods this thread is sick.
You want to kill someone without a salt lick? Kenny doesn't approve
thank you! this is what happens when people let their children play on the internet
Let me think.
Oh that's right, NEVER!
Yea I'm disgusted by the thread and some posts here. Calling Rebecca a slut is just wrong.... They wouldn't like it if their mom was with child and was like Rebecca and called her a slut and say she should die. We just started the season so people don't know shit about Rebecca. All we know is she's with child and is a strong woman who will do and say anything to protect the group. There is no evidence she's a slut. She never once tried hitting on Pete, Carlos, Luke, or Alvin. She's a loyal woman who just made mistakes in her life. She's also loyal. So people need to leave Rebecca alone geesh. Lori was the same way but that doesn't mean she's a slut. Lori and shane thought Rick was dead that's why they did what they did. Lori was confused who the baby was. I think the baby was Shane's because rick was in the hospital for awhile. Anyway people who hate Rebecca needs to leave her alone....
Clementine worked because of her personality and the way Telltale made her interact with you. What is a baby going to do, outside of screaming and crying? What is going to distinguish a baby and make it a good character of its own? You can't really even give a baby a unique personality, or even distinguish between personalities outside of the generic "loud baby" and "quiet baby". Not to mention that most people are annoyed by babies in general that are not their own, and even those that are their own for many.
Anyways, as I said earlier, I don't care if there is a baby in the group. I just don't want to be forced to take care of it as Clementine.
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I agree, though i do think we will be involved in a way, im pretty sure it wont be a huge part, probably something minor, and thats assuming Rebecca even succeds in having a child, which for all we know might not even happen. It might be dependent on the choices the player makes, which could make things interesting i suppose. How do you think/hope they will handle this "Rebecca's child" situation?
How about this: Would you be willing to sacrifice Clementine's life to save Rebecca and her unborn child? I don't think it will come to that, but I will do whatever it takes to keep Clem safe.
You're right; humanity probably wont survive, but in all honesty I care more about Clementine than the rest of humanity.
No reason to kill her.
She`s an adulterer and a witch, but she doesn't deserve to be killed...
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You both forget one key thing, this is the ZA, and sure, in the real world it wouldnt be right, but this is The Walking Dead, there is a time for everything, including this. And "professional help"? hardly, seeing how this is opinion based, (though i suppose he could have changed the title a bit to make it specificly about rebecca) It all depends on the situation, thats the key element to this. Child or not its no excuse for her to act that way. And why would she even think of having a child in a world like this, is she crazy? i will give her the benifite of the doubt and say it wasnt intentional, but still.
You cant possibly believe that there is absolutely no time, reason, or situation in TWD where thats acceptable? what if your LIFE is at stake and she stands in your way? what about clem, if rebecca turns on clem and tries to kill her, is clem wrong for defending herself? or rebecca for starting this crap in the first place? everyone is equal in this, rebecca is no exception. Sure, its wrong in our world, but in TWD, there is surely a point where enough is enough.
Someone is taking this thread too literally. In real life it's unacceptable to kill ANYONE unless they are trying to harm you or anyone else. And I would like to think humanity would eventually develop some kind of community and be able to live semi-normally again. Of course in fiction these always fall but using TLOU as an example, there are "safe" zones where humans can repopulate and grow.
Okay I'm done commenting now because people are just gonna try to put me down lol. if you thibk its okay to kill pregnate women then that's what you think XD. I respect your thoughts.
Always. In a ZA, no one gets special treatment
no reason to kill her
We're all doomed...
Doomed, I tell you!
The question isn't what we want anymore: We ARE Clementine now. The question is what would Clementine do?
yeah, kinda...
That's one way to look at it. I take her personality into consideration when I make decisions, but it isn't the deciding factor. I play as myself, meaning that I am nice until it is time not to be nice.
Anyways, I don't think Clementine would sacrifice herself to save a pregnant woman who was a complete bitch to her, baby or not. Lee wouldn't want it, and nothing in Clementine's personality suggests that she would go that far. She is focused on her own survival, not that of total strangers. It's easy to take the moral high ground when you aren't involved in the situation.
If it is born successfully, I hope that it serves mainly to add some depth to Rebecca's character. She is severely lacking in any sort of depth at the moment, so the baby could be her redemption. We may be shown that she possesses the capacity to be a good mother, that she isn't just a straight up cold-hearted bitch. I don't mind interacting with it as Clementine, but not for extended periods of time and not in a negative way (changing diaper? fuck that).
What I hope they DON'T do is make the baby a central character. Oh, the group now exists for the single-minded purpose of protecting the baby? No, everyone needs to continue doing their own thing after the baby is born. The baby is Rebecca's/Alvin's problem, it needn't be treated like some supernatural being that the entire group must crowd around, stupefied by its very existence. So basically, I hope that the baby doesn't change the overall direction of the season.
If there's gonna be a chance...I don't think I'd kill Rebecca. EVEN if she's a dick with Clem and even if I blackmailed her. I don't want the blood of a woman and an unborn child on Clem's hands.
I think Clementine would be pretty badass if she sacrificed herself for someone she once hated. Granted, I would be sad as f**k and would go on a riot, but that would be a Kenny moment for her:
Nothing else matters, I don't care that you were a dick to me, just get out of here.
I would still hate it, though, so you are kind of right; I would not be able to play any future seasons without Clementine. She probably wouldn't realistically do that anyway; she's only 11.
Exactly.. So far she's just been a bit rude and has her own worries but done nothing yet to deserve being killed.
Personally I would only kill anyone, male or female, pregnant or not, if they were a threat to my survival.
In my playthrough, I didn't say anything to Rebecca about whose baby is it.. I didn't care.. Makes no difference to my Clem who just needed to sew her arm and get some food. But, the moment I feel Rebecca may try to harm Clem, then yes, whatever it takes to survive.
i said before the only reason that thought should even enter your head is if she is bitten. but that's common sense and doesn't need a whole thread to discuss it. the op makes it sound like "geez this ladies a bitch lets cap this hoe, mwahhahahaha and go burn puppies"
im going to let you lead by example and follow you out of this fucked up discussion full of prego killers.