Two years? I think she would have accepted the death of her dad and moved on. Though I don't think her a 'villain' I do think she could be one to accuse people of stealing/robbery, that sounds like something Lilly would do. Besides, I think it would be much more interesting to see who forgives her or who doesn't.
Well let me ask you, if Lilly does come back in the second or third season, how do you see her?
Do you see her redeeming herself?
Or do you see her as a villain type?
I see her as a villain.
She reminds me of Shane on the tv show.
I think it's likely that Lilly could come back, personally, I wouldn't trust her one bit, but yeah, I can see that it might be her. I'm thinki… moreng that it will be Kenny in the "I thought you were dead" part, and that Lilly will come back later. In the situation, perhaps one of them will start something with the other, and the other just ignoring them. What I mean by that is that either Kenny will still not trust Lilly and she just won't care after all she's been through, or perhaps it will be the other way around. I don't think that if they both show up it will be a big thing with them being opposites once more. I'm thinking it will probably be more like one had put the past behind them, and the other still holds onto whatever was done.
Ha, on a serious note, I was thinking it would be more of something along the lines of Lilly tries to convince Clem and everyone else in the group what a horrible person Kenny is, he just says to leave the past in the past, and perhaps Clem as a choice to support Lilly or Kenny.
I'll just picture something passive aggressive for now.
Kenny: Lilly...
Lilly: Kenny...
Kenny: Your new group know how you shot someo… morene in cold blood before stealing our primary means of transportation?
Lilly: Nope. Your new group know that you butchered an old man right before you left a friend to die out of spite?
Kenny: Nope..
I don't necessarily see her as an antagonist, but I do see her as becoming much colder after her father's death. Very much like Shane in the fact that she sees things in terms o survival only, Humanity comes second. I always saw Kenny as more like rick, focused on Humanity and what was right, but in terms of protecting members of the group or his family, he'd be willing to do anything.
Well let me ask you, if Lilly does come back in the second or third season, how do you see her?
Do you see her redeeming herself?
Or do you see her as a villain type?
I see her as a villain.
She reminds me of Shane on the tv show.
I just want to say my hats off to you in your description of the two characters.
Kenny and Lilly do have Rick/Shane dynamic going on.
Never exactly thought about in that way, good comparison.
I don't necessarily see her as an antagonist, but I do see her as becoming much colder after her father's death. Very much like Shane in the f… moreact that she sees things in terms o survival only, Humanity comes second. I always saw Kenny as more like rick, focused on Humanity and what was right, but in terms of protecting members of the group or his family, he'd be willing to do anything.
There are two lines specifically that made me think of that. When Shane is talking to Rick about finding Sophia, "Sophia only matters so long as she doesn't drag the rest of us down. It's all simple math, how much food, how much ammo, how much fuel." And then basically everything that Lilly says when you first met her. The one thing that stands out in particular is when she says, "Those things out there don't care!" after Glenn points out that they have kids with them.
If Lilly does return in Season 2, then I see her returning as even colder and more like Shane, that is to say, more "practical". My reason for this would be because of how she reacted after Larry died. She became paranoid and unstable, but even then, after she killed Carley, she made excuses to try and save herself, and she betrayed Lee. Even at that point, she was worried about self-preservation. After surviving more or less on her own after two years, I'm thinking she'd be even more like that.
Kenny on the other hand, I feel like he'll return as a much more "broken" man. If I'm right, then I think that Lilly's survivalist attitude will eventually get her killed, and perhaps Kenny will eventually become the man he was before, and be the leader of the group again. Possibly after Carlos dies, because I get the feeling that Carlos WILL die.
I just want to say my hats off to you in your description of the two characters.
Kenny and Lilly do have Rick/Shane dynamic going on.
Never exactly thought about in that way, good comparison.
Thanks.
There are two lines specifically that made me think of that. When Shane is talking to Rick about finding Sophia, "Sophia only matt… moreers so long as she doesn't drag the rest of us down. It's all simple math, how much food, how much ammo, how much fuel." And then basically everything that Lilly says when you first met her. The one thing that stands out in particular is when she says, "Those things out there don't care!" after Glenn points out that they have kids with them.
If Lilly does return in Season 2, then I see her returning as even colder and more like Shane, that is to say, more "practical". My reason for this would be because of how she reacted after Larry died. She became paranoid and unstable, but even then, after she killed Carley, she made excuses to try and save herself, and she betrayed Lee. Even at that point, she was worried about self-preservation. After surviving more or less on her own after two years, I'm thinking … [view original content]
I suppose, but I specifically get the feeling that Carlos will die, leaving Sarah all alone, and then perhaps she'll be traumatized by the event or something.
You got one hell of an interesting theory, as far as Lilly and Kenny are concerned, and what their possible future could be.
I do see Lilly's survivalist mentality coming back to bite her in the ass.
Paybacks's a bitch!
And I also agree that Kenny will become the great guy he was again, actually even more so.
Kenny was a fighter, someone who was determined not to give up.
That's actually an admirable quality!
Just on a quick note on human nature.
After a person has experienced traumatic personal loss, it's quite likely that they will go into a state of depression.
And that depression can take years to overcome!
But if a person is willing to continue to take positive action in their life, ( and the main way to acomplish that is by keeping their mind busy with constructive activity), not only can they survive, but also come back better then they were before.
I know that from personal experience!
Thanks.
There are two lines specifically that made me think of that. When Shane is talking to Rick about finding Sophia, "Sophia only matt… moreers so long as she doesn't drag the rest of us down. It's all simple math, how much food, how much ammo, how much fuel." And then basically everything that Lilly says when you first met her. The one thing that stands out in particular is when she says, "Those things out there don't care!" after Glenn points out that they have kids with them.
If Lilly does return in Season 2, then I see her returning as even colder and more like Shane, that is to say, more "practical". My reason for this would be because of how she reacted after Larry died. She became paranoid and unstable, but even then, after she killed Carley, she made excuses to try and save herself, and she betrayed Lee. Even at that point, she was worried about self-preservation. After surviving more or less on her own after two years, I'm thinking … [view original content]
She will Reappear in Season 2, However shes not the one whos gonna return next episode , Even if you left her on the side of the road Eveyone knows she is a tough bi*** and can handle herself pretty well despite being a disaster at that time so Clementine has no reason to believe she died, more appropiate reaction if it was Lilly would be " You are still alive" or something along those lines
She will Reappear in Season 2, However shes not the one whos gonna return next episode , Even if you left her on the side of the road Eveyone … moreknows she is a tough bi*** and can handle herself pretty well despite being a disaster at that time so Clementine has no reason to believe she died, more appropiate reaction if it was Lilly would be " You are still alive" or something along those lines
Nah I dont think so, The way things are looking up right know im putting my money on Victor, the last time you see him he is basically dying in the river with a horde of walker approaching him, From my point of view he could be assumed dead 10 times before Lilly
Nah I dont think so, The way things are looking up right know im putting my money on Victor, the last time you see him he is basically dying i… moren the river with a horde of walker approaching him, From my point of view he could be assumed dead 10 times before Lilly
Well if someone expects Telltale to make their games based on what the fans want You are definitely in the wrong direction, how many people wouldn't like Lee alive? But back to topic, besides what I explained before Telltale also likes to throw Curveballs and everyone is expecting some big time name,From what I have seen so far I dont think its any of those people the fans are expecting but they will return later in the story when you least expect it, But thats just my opinion you know
I respect your opinions, but if you know me, you would know that I always chat about peoples opinion.
Anyway, I don't know why they would pass up the perfect opportunity to re-introduce a good character. They'd be shooting themselves in the foot if they don't. It'd be something we wouldn't expect, but does that make it good? Why would I care about some guy I met for a whole minute? Curveball indeed, but that curveball will piss people off, which isn't a smart thing to do. Granted, they still have three episodes after this one, so I'm not to worried.
Well if someone expects Telltale to make their games based on what the fans want You are definitely in the wrong direction, how many people wo… moreuldn't like Lee alive? But back to topic, besides what I explained before Telltale also likes to throw Curveballs and everyone is expecting some big time name,From what I have seen so far I dont think its any of those people the fans are expecting but they will return later in the story when you least expect it, But thats just my opinion you know
Lets Break those 3 Characters: Christa: Clementine doesn't think she died, if you choose the right dialogue choices she will say that her friend is still out there and that she's gonna find her, So cross Christa off the lost ( I dont even know why some prople actually think its her) . Lilly: Not impossible, but once again I dont think a single Line by Lee is enough to assume someone as tough as she is died, Lilly cant survive just because she is on her own but Kenny can escape a horde of walkers approaching him in a closed building or alley, doesn't make sense to me. Kenny: the only one of those people who I think could be, Im 50/50 between him and Victor but the reason I go with Victor is because it would be less predictable Since everyone is expecting Kenny, However i think Kenny will come back next episode regardless just when you thought Telltale was trolling you and he wasn't gonna return, Any of this makes sense to you?
I respect your opinions, but if you know me, you would know that I always chat about peoples opinion.
Anyway, I don't know why they would p… moreass up the perfect opportunity to re-introduce a good character. They'd be shooting themselves in the foot if they don't. It'd be something we wouldn't expect, but does that make it good? Why would I care about some guy I met for a whole minute? Curveball indeed, but that curveball will piss people off, which isn't a smart thing to do. Granted, they still have three episodes after this one, so I'm not to worried.
Yes, but each can be justified in many different ways, so many that we could be here all day talking about it. Hey, at least this conversation didn't result in any rage.
Anyway, I enjoyed our little chat. Civil and quick, just the way I like it.
Lets Break those 3 Characters: Christa: Clementine doesn't think she died, if you choose the right dialogue choices she will say that her frie… morend is still out there and that she's gonna find her, So cross Christa off the lost ( I dont even know why some prople actually think its her) . Lilly: Not impossible, but once again I dont think a single Line by Lee is enough to assume someone as tough as she is died, Lilly cant survive just because she is on her own but Kenny can escape a horde of walkers approaching him in a closed building or alley, doesn't make sense to me. Kenny: the only one of those people who I think could be, Im 50/50 between him and Victor but the reason I go with Victor is because it would be less predictable Since everyone is expecting Kenny, However i think Kenny will come back next episode regardless just when you thought Telltale was trolling you and he wasn't gonna return, Any of this makes sense to you?
Yes, but each can be justified in many different ways, so many that we could be here all day talking about it. Hey, at least this conversatio… moren didn't result in any rage.
Anyway, I enjoyed our little chat. Civil and quick, just the way I like it.
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Two years? I think she would have accepted the death of her dad and moved on. Though I don't think her a 'villain' I do think she could be one to accuse people of stealing/robbery, that sounds like something Lilly would do. Besides, I think it would be much more interesting to see who forgives her or who doesn't.
I'll just picture something passive aggressive for now.
Kenny: Lilly...
Lilly: Kenny...
Kenny: Your new group know how you shot someone in cold blood before stealing our primary means of transportation?
Lilly: Nope. Your new group know that you butchered an old man right before you left a friend to die out of spite?
Kenny: Nope..
Ha, on a serious note, I was thinking it would be more of something along the lines of Lilly tries to convince Clem and everyone else in the group what a horrible person Kenny is, he just says to leave the past in the past, and perhaps Clem as a choice to support Lilly or Kenny.
I don't necessarily see her as an antagonist, but I do see her as becoming much colder after her father's death. Very much like Shane in the fact that she sees things in terms o survival only, Humanity comes second. I always saw Kenny as more like rick, focused on Humanity and what was right, but in terms of protecting members of the group or his family, he'd be willing to do anything.
I just want to say my hats off to you in your description of the two characters.
Kenny and Lilly do have Rick/Shane dynamic going on.
Never exactly thought about in that way, good comparison.
OMG Yes!
You have done your kin proud!
Thanks.
There are two lines specifically that made me think of that. When Shane is talking to Rick about finding Sophia, "Sophia only matters so long as she doesn't drag the rest of us down. It's all simple math, how much food, how much ammo, how much fuel." And then basically everything that Lilly says when you first met her. The one thing that stands out in particular is when she says, "Those things out there don't care!" after Glenn points out that they have kids with them.
If Lilly does return in Season 2, then I see her returning as even colder and more like Shane, that is to say, more "practical". My reason for this would be because of how she reacted after Larry died. She became paranoid and unstable, but even then, after she killed Carley, she made excuses to try and save herself, and she betrayed Lee. Even at that point, she was worried about self-preservation. After surviving more or less on her own after two years, I'm thinking she'd be even more like that.
Kenny on the other hand, I feel like he'll return as a much more "broken" man. If I'm right, then I think that Lilly's survivalist attitude will eventually get her killed, and perhaps Kenny will eventually become the man he was before, and be the leader of the group again. Possibly after Carlos dies, because I get the feeling that Carlos WILL die.
Don't we all get that feeling that someone is going to die?
I suppose, but I specifically get the feeling that Carlos will die, leaving Sarah all alone, and then perhaps she'll be traumatized by the event or something.
You got one hell of an interesting theory, as far as Lilly and Kenny are concerned, and what their possible future could be.
I do see Lilly's survivalist mentality coming back to bite her in the ass.
Paybacks's a bitch!
And I also agree that Kenny will become the great guy he was again, actually even more so.
Kenny was a fighter, someone who was determined not to give up.
That's actually an admirable quality!
Just on a quick note on human nature.
After a person has experienced traumatic personal loss, it's quite likely that they will go into a state of depression.
And that depression can take years to overcome!
But if a person is willing to continue to take positive action in their life, ( and the main way to acomplish that is by keeping their mind busy with constructive activity), not only can they survive, but also come back better then they were before.
I know that from personal experience!
I think both of them going to appear in season 2 . question is which one of them is the "i thought you were dead " person ?
Got some fan art here
Don't know who the original creator is, but it ain't my work.
She will Reappear in Season 2, However shes not the one whos gonna return next episode , Even if you left her on the side of the road Eveyone knows she is a tough bi*** and can handle herself pretty well despite being a disaster at that time so Clementine has no reason to believe she died, more appropiate reaction if it was Lilly would be " You are still alive" or something along those lines
Lee did say that leaving her on the side of the road is the same as murder. Clem may have assumed she died.
Nah I dont think so, The way things are looking up right know im putting my money on Victor, the last time you see him he is basically dying in the river with a horde of walker approaching him, From my point of view he could be assumed dead 10 times before Lilly
They would be disappointing fans everywhere if it isn't:
A. Lilly
B. Kenny
C. Christa
Well if someone expects Telltale to make their games based on what the fans want You are definitely in the wrong direction, how many people wouldn't like Lee alive? But back to topic, besides what I explained before Telltale also likes to throw Curveballs and everyone is expecting some big time name,From what I have seen so far I dont think its any of those people the fans are expecting but they will return later in the story when you least expect it, But thats just my opinion you know
I respect your opinions, but if you know me, you would know that I always chat about peoples opinion.
Anyway, I don't know why they would pass up the perfect opportunity to re-introduce a good character. They'd be shooting themselves in the foot if they don't. It'd be something we wouldn't expect, but does that make it good? Why would I care about some guy I met for a whole minute? Curveball indeed, but that curveball will piss people off, which isn't a smart thing to do. Granted, they still have three episodes after this one, so I'm not to worried.
Lets Break those 3 Characters: Christa: Clementine doesn't think she died, if you choose the right dialogue choices she will say that her friend is still out there and that she's gonna find her, So cross Christa off the lost ( I dont even know why some prople actually think its her) . Lilly: Not impossible, but once again I dont think a single Line by Lee is enough to assume someone as tough as she is died, Lilly cant survive just because she is on her own but Kenny can escape a horde of walkers approaching him in a closed building or alley, doesn't make sense to me. Kenny: the only one of those people who I think could be, Im 50/50 between him and Victor but the reason I go with Victor is because it would be less predictable Since everyone is expecting Kenny, However i think Kenny will come back next episode regardless just when you thought Telltale was trolling you and he wasn't gonna return, Any of this makes sense to you?
Yes, but each can be justified in many different ways, so many that we could be here all day talking about it. Hey, at least this conversation didn't result in any rage.
Anyway, I enjoyed our little chat. Civil and quick, just the way I like it.
I enjoyed it too ! Nice back and forth chat like normal people, We still exist Lol
the dog.
the dog returns in episode 2.
Nay. Doge is kil.