343 signatures and counting......
https://www.change.org/petitions/telltalegames-provide-weekly-status-updates-in-their-official-forum-for-customers-who-have-already-purchased-a-season-pass-to-a-current-game-in-production
For all of you folks who think telltale games has different teams working on these projects...They do not.... I thought they did but after reading this article out of polygon I was wrong,
"Currently, Telltale has four series in the cooker: The Walking Dead, which just began its second season; The Wolf Among Us, based on the Fables comic series; Tales from the Borderlands; and Game of Thrones. Allison clarified that although the studio has all these projects under its belt, they are not all in development at once. As The Walking Dead and The Wolf Among Us wind down, fans can expect to hear more about Borderlands and Game of Thrones."
"We all work in the same office and we don't outsource our work," Allison explained. "People who come to Telltale from other video game companies struggle with how we make games because it's so different from working at other studios. The concept of teams here doesn't necessarily exist; we have groups doing certain things like building sets or animating scenes, and a leadership team that has producers to keep people in check and directors to direct episodes."
"Allison explained that studio members will move between projects as needed. Animators and other developers could work on one episode of The Walking Dead before moving on to create scenery for The Wolf Among Us and then back to Walking Dead again. The team is a series of moving parts that build where things need building at any given time."
It appears that TTG has a core group of programmers and that conveyor belt brings their intellectual properties to that group like a assembly line.
That conveyor belt core group works on 1 thing at a time,
There are maybe some smaller groups more or less the clean up team that floats around but the concept that TTG a is working on TWAU and TWD at the same time with separate developments teams is just not true. The fact is if this article is true TTG has been working on TWAU for since TWD ep 1 was released back in December. Lord knows where TWD EP 2 is on that conveyor belt.
Just like the link says all the games are on the same conveyor below. It's just right now that belt is stopped on TWAU until it released then it moves on to TWD.
343 signatures and counting......
https://www.change.org/petitions/telltalegames-provide-weekly-status-updates-in-their-official-forum-for-customers-who-have-already-purchased-a-season-pass-to-a-current-game-in-production
Just a note that I just unstickied this so that it will show up on the main forum page, so all people who want to talk about the wait for the release will be able to find it.
...Telltale never fails to surprise me, in both good and bad ways.
But I doubt this article is legit. If they don't have two teams they will never make up to their time table, and they would never work on more than one game at a time if they don't have more than one group working on the games.
For all of you folks who think telltale games has different teams working on these projects...They do not.... I thought they did but after rea… moreding this article out of polygon I was wrong,
"Currently, Telltale has four series in the cooker: The Walking Dead, which just began its second season; The Wolf Among Us, based on the Fables comic series; Tales from the Borderlands; and Game of Thrones. Allison clarified that although the studio has all these projects under its belt, they are not all in development at once. As The Walking Dead and The Wolf Among Us wind down, fans can expect to hear more about Borderlands and Game of Thrones."
"We all work in the same office and we don't outsource our work," Allison explained. "People who come to Telltale from other video game companies struggle with how we make games because it's so different from working at other studios. The concept of teams here doesn't necessarily exist; we have groups doing cert… [view original content]
The release time between A New Day. and Starved For Help was about 64 days.
If we count 64 days from December 17, we'll end up on Fabruary 18. And that is what? About three weeks from today?
Sounds like a legit date to me; a Tuesday. I for one will put this as my next mile stone for A House Divided. And if I'm not wrong the longest wait was between Episode One, and Episode Two.
If someone can enlighten me, why CAN'T Telltale release the 2nd episodes of TWAU and TWDS2 on the same month? Did they already give an explanation about it?
The release time between A New Day. and Starved For Help was about 64 days.
If we count 64 days from December 17, we'll end up on Fabruary … more18. And that is what? About three weeks from today?
Sounds like a legit date to me; a Tuesday. I for one will put this as my next mile stone for A House Divided. And if I'm not wrong the longest wait was between Episode One, and Episode Two.
Oh Holy February 18 -- Be our day of days.
If someone can enlighten me, why CAN'T Telltale release the 2nd episodes of TWAU and TWDS2 on the same month? Did they already give an explanation about it?
TWAU encountered some unknown delays that Telltale have promised probably won't happen again.
TWD just isn't ready yet by the looks of it. It hasn't really been that long.
If I was a betting man I'd say Wolf will dominate early February and then once the dust settles on that, Dead will start to ramp up for a March releases then Wolf in April and Dead in May.
If someone can enlighten me, why CAN'T Telltale release the 2nd episodes of TWAU and TWDS2 on the same month? Did they already give an explanation about it?
It could be so one won't overshadow the other. Both so close together could mean one is overshadowed or people aren't willing to purchase both at the same time so there'd be less immediate sales. Immediate sales seem to be more important than general sales. That said I'm sure both fanbases would purchase them asap but Telltale could see it as too risky right now
If someone can enlighten me, why CAN'T Telltale release the 2nd episodes of TWAU and TWDS2 on the same month? Did they already give an explanation about it?
I have to admit, since there is no info within their 6 week frame, by today I have lost most of my hype for A House Divided, I'm so focused on everything else I'm almost completely forgetting a new episode is supposed to come out. I wait till it comes out.
The thing is, I would have honestly thought they would have made the entire game but don't release them so that fans have something to look forward to and don't play it all at once. Plus it gives TT chance to add or cut things from the final version before they release it. After the release of episode 1, I cannot see them constantly making episode 2 in just 4-6 weeks. It would take longer to make an episode surely? It would be too rushed otherwise, that's why I feel they've probably already made all the episodes but just holding out on the releases
TWAU encountered some unknown delays that Telltale have promised probably won't happen again.
TWD just isn't ready yet by the looks of it. … moreIt hasn't really been that long.
If I was a betting man I'd say Wolf will dominate early February and then once the dust settles on that, Dead will start to ramp up for a March releases then Wolf in April and Dead in May.
They probably don't have all the episodes finished as thats not how they work, as the season goes along they sometimes make changes to the story depending on player choices and feedback, It's more likely they they have a large team working on the current episode with a smaller team starting some work on the next one so they can make their "next time on the walking dead" preview, once episode 2 releases all the workforce goes into episode 3 and again a small team starting on episode 4, The entire season plot is worked out and story boarded months before episode 1 but minor changes happen while they work on the individual episodes, Some staff are probably working on scenery and characters for future episodes and they will also need to record voices for the all future episodes which apparently takes a while per episode.
The thing is, I would have honestly thought they would have made the entire game but don't release them so that fans have something to look fo… morerward to and don't play it all at once. Plus it gives TT chance to add or cut things from the final version before they release it. After the release of episode 1, I cannot see them constantly making episode 2 in just 4-6 weeks. It would take longer to make an episode surely? It would be too rushed otherwise, that's why I feel they've probably already made all the episodes but just holding out on the releases
Yeah I'm gathering that seems to be the sort of process they do with these games. It's certainly not like they had episode 2 of wolf and dead all ready months ago and are just holding it off to mock us or anything.
I'm told one of the benefits is that they can incorporate story moments or even entire gameplay elements based on player feedback using this model.
The downside is of course, the waiting. But they do make the wait ever so worth while.
They probably don't have all the episodes finished as thats not how they work, as the season goes along they sometimes make changes to the sto… morery depending on player choices and feedback, It's more likely they they have a large team working on the current episode with a smaller team starting some work on the next one so they can make their "next time on the walking dead" preview, once episode 2 releases all the workforce goes into episode 3 and again a small team starting on episode 4, The entire season plot is worked out and story boarded months before episode 1 but minor changes happen while they work on the individual episodes, Some staff are probably working on scenery and characters for future episodes and they will also need to record voices for the all future episodes which apparently takes a while per episode.
It's also, like, why blow through your two major titles by releasing them both within a week of each other? They'll bleed out these two until summerish, which'll clear the way for a october/november launch of GoT and Borderlands.
It could be so one won't overshadow the other. Both so close together could mean one is overshadowed or people aren't willing to purchase both… more at the same time so there'd be less immediate sales. Immediate sales seem to be more important than general sales. That said I'm sure both fanbases would purchase them asap but Telltale could see it as too risky right now
I see your point, but heck I'd still be anticipating the episode, even if they delayed the game a year. Thankfully it won't, but it has proven it requires great dedication to be a fan of Telltale Games.
I have to admit, since there is no info within their 6 week frame, by today I have lost most of my hype for A House Divided, I'm so focused on… more everything else I'm almost completely forgetting a new episode is supposed to come out. I wait till it comes out.
For all of you folks who think telltale games has different teams working on these projects...They do not.... I thought they did but after rea… moreding this article out of polygon I was wrong,
"Currently, Telltale has four series in the cooker: The Walking Dead, which just began its second season; The Wolf Among Us, based on the Fables comic series; Tales from the Borderlands; and Game of Thrones. Allison clarified that although the studio has all these projects under its belt, they are not all in development at once. As The Walking Dead and The Wolf Among Us wind down, fans can expect to hear more about Borderlands and Game of Thrones."
"We all work in the same office and we don't outsource our work," Allison explained. "People who come to Telltale from other video game companies struggle with how we make games because it's so different from working at other studios. The concept of teams here doesn't necessarily exist; we have groups doing cert… [view original content]
Well that Article explains a lot. Talking about the Things which worked against them. That Thing is one Team. And then they will realize two other Franchises? Also this Year. I think Telltale is like a Kid on a sugar Shock or something with their Ideas at times lol.
For all of you folks who think telltale games has different teams working on these projects...They do not.... I thought they did but after rea… moreding this article out of polygon I was wrong,
"Currently, Telltale has four series in the cooker: The Walking Dead, which just began its second season; The Wolf Among Us, based on the Fables comic series; Tales from the Borderlands; and Game of Thrones. Allison clarified that although the studio has all these projects under its belt, they are not all in development at once. As The Walking Dead and The Wolf Among Us wind down, fans can expect to hear more about Borderlands and Game of Thrones."
"We all work in the same office and we don't outsource our work," Allison explained. "People who come to Telltale from other video game companies struggle with how we make games because it's so different from working at other studios. The concept of teams here doesn't necessarily exist; we have groups doing cert… [view original content]
i think im in the minority here,i still need to play through it again to get a better handle of things so i don't really mind it being slightly late from what was predicted. Still can't believe Omid.... lol
I don't know why people are expecting an update right now when they're in the middle of promoting TWAU. After next week is when we can start to expect news.
How could Christa possibly NOT tell Clementine about Kennny's 'death'?
I think Clem cared that much about Kenny that she would at least ask her where Kenny is, don't you think?
Yeah I'm gathering that seems to be the sort of process they do with these games. It's certainly not like they had episode 2 of wolf and dead … moreall ready months ago and are just holding it off to mock us or anything.
I'm told one of the benefits is that they can incorporate story moments or even entire gameplay elements based on player feedback using this model.
The downside is of course, the waiting. But they do make the wait ever so worth while.
The conveyor belt system of developing episodes makes perfect sense with how slow TTG has pushed out updates. Maybe over time that core team referenced in the article above will get moving faster but I find it completely legit that TTG has a single core team of developers working on one project at a time.
On another note I miss the good old days of how TTG used to interact with the fan base. They were a fun company to follow and interacted with customers by posting what seemed like actual conversations.
Yeah there's two different teams of about 90 or so people working on both games and both are unaffected by the other. The Walking Dead's schedule is probably still going good, I expect we'll see it after February 17, last season the max anyone ever waited was two months and two days so the wait won't be much longer.
We've gone through the bulk of the wait most likely so I think everyone here can hold off for a few weeks and go play TWAU to pass the time.
They have two teams but the animators may double up on both games. It's an office of 180 people, about 70 people working on TWD and TWAU each, some double up and the rest do pre-production work on Borderlands and GOT and those two have like ten people each for now.
It's not one team, that would be a huge clusterfuck and that article contradicts several things Telltale has said in the past. On their AMA on Reddit, Telltale said that they typically work on two episodes of each game simultaneously. Switching between the two like that would be way too difficult to have work. Besides, what kind of work could 150 or so people be doing on one episode? It's impractical to have that many people on one installment.
Summary: The article is not accurate, not only would it not make any sense from a development perspective, but it contradicts previous statements made by Telltale.
For all of you folks who think telltale games has different teams working on these projects...They do not.... I thought they did but after rea… moreding this article out of polygon I was wrong,
"Currently, Telltale has four series in the cooker: The Walking Dead, which just began its second season; The Wolf Among Us, based on the Fables comic series; Tales from the Borderlands; and Game of Thrones. Allison clarified that although the studio has all these projects under its belt, they are not all in development at once. As The Walking Dead and The Wolf Among Us wind down, fans can expect to hear more about Borderlands and Game of Thrones."
"We all work in the same office and we don't outsource our work," Allison explained. "People who come to Telltale from other video game companies struggle with how we make games because it's so different from working at other studios. The concept of teams here doesn't necessarily exist; we have groups doing cert… [view original content]
Six weeks is crazy optimistic, as a Telltale fan you should've been aware that they would never release in that time frame at first. Some episodes do release that quickly but six weeks is not the ideal wait time. It's more like 4-8 weeks.
I would go do something else if you can't wait, by the time you check back here then the episode will be out. For Season 2's premiere I just heard about it on the radio and thought, "Oh yeah, that comes out today! Better go play it!"
I have to admit, since there is no info within their 6 week frame, by today I have lost most of my hype for A House Divided, I'm so focused on… more everything else I'm almost completely forgetting a new episode is supposed to come out. I wait till it comes out.
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What a great idea! I signed it. Let's hope it makes some sorta difference.
um, im sorry, but you have a deviantart!
maybe im not the only one? >.>
For all of you folks who think telltale games has different teams working on these projects...They do not.... I thought they did but after reading this article out of polygon I was wrong,
"Currently, Telltale has four series in the cooker: The Walking Dead, which just began its second season; The Wolf Among Us, based on the Fables comic series; Tales from the Borderlands; and Game of Thrones. Allison clarified that although the studio has all these projects under its belt, they are not all in development at once. As The Walking Dead and The Wolf Among Us wind down, fans can expect to hear more about Borderlands and Game of Thrones."
"We all work in the same office and we don't outsource our work," Allison explained. "People who come to Telltale from other video game companies struggle with how we make games because it's so different from working at other studios. The concept of teams here doesn't necessarily exist; we have groups doing certain things like building sets or animating scenes, and a leadership team that has producers to keep people in check and directors to direct episodes."
"Allison explained that studio members will move between projects as needed. Animators and other developers could work on one episode of The Walking Dead before moving on to create scenery for The Wolf Among Us and then back to Walking Dead again. The team is a series of moving parts that build where things need building at any given time."
It appears that TTG has a core group of programmers and that conveyor belt brings their intellectual properties to that group like a assembly line.
That conveyor belt core group works on 1 thing at a time,
There are maybe some smaller groups more or less the clean up team that floats around but the concept that TTG a is working on TWAU and TWD at the same time with separate developments teams is just not true. The fact is if this article is true TTG has been working on TWAU for since TWD ep 1 was released back in December. Lord knows where TWD EP 2 is on that conveyor belt.
Here is the link to the article.
http://www.polygon.com/2013/12/23/5224694/how-telltale-teamed-up-with-game-of-thrones-and-borderlands
Just like the link says all the games are on the same conveyor below. It's just right now that belt is stopped on TWAU until it released then it moves on to TWD.
I do hope this works, im really want to find out what happens to clem
They unstickied this thread for some reason, maybe it means something?
From @Jennifer
...Telltale never fails to surprise me, in both good and bad ways.
But I doubt this article is legit. If they don't have two teams they will never make up to their time table, and they would never work on more than one game at a time if they don't have more than one group working on the games.
The release time between A New Day. and Starved For Help was about 64 days.
If we count 64 days from December 17, we'll end up on Fabruary 18. And that is what? About three weeks from today?
Sounds like a legit date to me; a Tuesday. I for one will put this as my next mile stone for A House Divided. And if I'm not wrong the longest wait was between Episode One, and Episode Two.
Oh Holy February 18 -- Be our day of days.
Hello fellow artist! ^_^
No update at all? Oh okay, what's new.
If someone can enlighten me, why CAN'T Telltale release the 2nd episodes of TWAU and TWDS2 on the same month? Did they already give an explanation about it?
No, no sign of life from Telltale what-so-ever about The Walking Dead.
TWAU encountered some unknown delays that Telltale have promised probably won't happen again.
TWD just isn't ready yet by the looks of it. It hasn't really been that long.
If I was a betting man I'd say Wolf will dominate early February and then once the dust settles on that, Dead will start to ramp up for a March releases then Wolf in April and Dead in May.
It could be so one won't overshadow the other. Both so close together could mean one is overshadowed or people aren't willing to purchase both at the same time so there'd be less immediate sales. Immediate sales seem to be more important than general sales. That said I'm sure both fanbases would purchase them asap but Telltale could see it as too risky right now
I have to admit, since there is no info within their 6 week frame, by today I have lost most of my hype for A House Divided, I'm so focused on everything else I'm almost completely forgetting a new episode is supposed to come out. I wait till it comes out.
The thing is, I would have honestly thought they would have made the entire game but don't release them so that fans have something to look forward to and don't play it all at once. Plus it gives TT chance to add or cut things from the final version before they release it. After the release of episode 1, I cannot see them constantly making episode 2 in just 4-6 weeks. It would take longer to make an episode surely? It would be too rushed otherwise, that's why I feel they've probably already made all the episodes but just holding out on the releases
They probably don't have all the episodes finished as thats not how they work, as the season goes along they sometimes make changes to the story depending on player choices and feedback, It's more likely they they have a large team working on the current episode with a smaller team starting some work on the next one so they can make their "next time on the walking dead" preview, once episode 2 releases all the workforce goes into episode 3 and again a small team starting on episode 4, The entire season plot is worked out and story boarded months before episode 1 but minor changes happen while they work on the individual episodes, Some staff are probably working on scenery and characters for future episodes and they will also need to record voices for the all future episodes which apparently takes a while per episode.
Yeah I'm gathering that seems to be the sort of process they do with these games. It's certainly not like they had episode 2 of wolf and dead all ready months ago and are just holding it off to mock us or anything.
I'm told one of the benefits is that they can incorporate story moments or even entire gameplay elements based on player feedback using this model.
The downside is of course, the waiting. But they do make the wait ever so worth while.
It's also, like, why blow through your two major titles by releasing them both within a week of each other? They'll bleed out these two until summerish, which'll clear the way for a october/november launch of GoT and Borderlands.
I see your point, but heck I'd still be anticipating the episode, even if they delayed the game a year. Thankfully it won't, but it has proven it requires great dedication to be a fan of Telltale Games.
If this is true, TT sounds like a giant cluster fucker.
Well that Article explains a lot. Talking about the Things which worked against them. That Thing is one Team. And then they will realize two other Franchises? Also this Year. I think Telltale is like a Kid on a sugar Shock or something with their Ideas at times lol.
Oh my god so GoT is finally confirmed! Yaaaaaayyy
How did U Get the profile pic from season 2?
Game of Thrones was confimred in December LOL
http://steamdb.info/app/261030/#section_history
They just updated the game what could this patch mean ?
It means the Ep2 is coming in 3...2...1...d'oh.
Nah.It's coming out on february 11th .... i hope
Lulz @all of you impatient people…..
Don't you all remember Season 1?
c'mon guys…..
CHCHC CcHCC Chcchc Cha!!!
SSSHHhhhhh dont spoil anything.... says in low dark evil voice
Never happened.....
I don't know why people are expecting an update right now when they're in the middle of promoting TWAU. After next week is when we can start to expect news.
haha hi XD if you don't mind me asking, what is your deviantart account name? ehgh i understand if you won't tell
I agree! Clem would have cared for Kenny at least in some way. She was fond of Duck and Katjaa so guaranteed she would have asked about Kenny!
Yeah you guys have a point there. I'd say they probably have parts of each episode done or something and work to finish them nearer the time!
I'm confused. Why do folks think that the polygon article is not legit?
http://www.polygon.com/2013/12/23/5224694/how-telltale-teamed-up-with-game-of-thrones-and-borderlands
The conveyor belt system of developing episodes makes perfect sense with how slow TTG has pushed out updates. Maybe over time that core team referenced in the article above will get moving faster but I find it completely legit that TTG has a single core team of developers working on one project at a time.
On another note I miss the good old days of how TTG used to interact with the fan base. They were a fun company to follow and interacted with customers by posting what seemed like actual conversations.
http://www.telltalegames.com/blog/categories/blog/p16
Take a look at that link above for a preview of how this company used to act.
Look at this one below. This was a post from them joking around.
http://www.telltalegames.com/blog/49921/delete-immediately
Yeah there's two different teams of about 90 or so people working on both games and both are unaffected by the other. The Walking Dead's schedule is probably still going good, I expect we'll see it after February 17, last season the max anyone ever waited was two months and two days so the wait won't be much longer.
We've gone through the bulk of the wait most likely so I think everyone here can hold off for a few weeks and go play TWAU to pass the time.
They have two teams but the animators may double up on both games. It's an office of 180 people, about 70 people working on TWD and TWAU each, some double up and the rest do pre-production work on Borderlands and GOT and those two have like ten people each for now.
It's not one team, that would be a huge clusterfuck and that article contradicts several things Telltale has said in the past. On their AMA on Reddit, Telltale said that they typically work on two episodes of each game simultaneously. Switching between the two like that would be way too difficult to have work. Besides, what kind of work could 150 or so people be doing on one episode? It's impractical to have that many people on one installment.
Summary: The article is not accurate, not only would it not make any sense from a development perspective, but it contradicts previous statements made by Telltale.
Six weeks is crazy optimistic, as a Telltale fan you should've been aware that they would never release in that time frame at first. Some episodes do release that quickly but six weeks is not the ideal wait time. It's more like 4-8 weeks.
I would go do something else if you can't wait, by the time you check back here then the episode will be out. For Season 2's premiere I just heard about it on the radio and thought, "Oh yeah, that comes out today! Better go play it!"