Significance of Luke
I think that there might be a possibility that Luke will be one of, it not the most, important characters in Season Two aside from Clem. First off, in the credits at the end of S2E1, he's listed second right underneath Clem and is even higher up than Christa. Pete is even listed way, way further down. Second, he and Clem are the only two individuals in the cabin group that don't have any family members or significant others with them, they both also lost their parents. Because of these points, I'm thinking that Luke and Clem will develop a special bond with one another that might parallel something that Lee and Clem had in Season 1 (though maybe not to the same emotional level). What do you guys think?
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What I kind of wonder is how sincere Luke actually is. He wasn't going to give Clementine the benefit of the doubt until Pete endorsed her. For those that chose to leave Pete, I can't help but think it'll probably change Luke. It's too early to know that group's dynamic, but it sure seems like either he or Carlos would be next in charge after Pete. I think it'll play out a lot like it did in season 1 with Lee. You weren't guaranteed a connection with Clementine based on gameplay. Yeah, the special bond formed regardless, but you had the options to piss Clementine off with several decisions along the way. Willing to bet you can piss Luke off with several as well.
I've thought that Luke would be the deuteragonist for a while. From being second in the credits, to getting so much screen time, to being relatable to Clem, I'm almost sure he will make it to episode 5.
If you didn't know, in season 1, the initial plan was to play as Clementine's older brother. Maybe we will see somewhat of the same dynamic develop over the course of season 2 between Luke and Clem.
My guess is that he will probably die in the final episode.
If not, sooner!
(Please note that there are also spoilers for Episode 1 of Season 2 in this comment).
Although I feel that there is potential for a relationship similar to to the one between Clemintine and Lee to develop with regards Luke and Clemintine, I can't shake off the feeling that Luke could be quite similar to Carley in the sense that he is a character that develops a very strong relationship with Clem and, very much like Carley, he gets killed off during the mid-point of the Season, especially since he is the most likable character barring Pete (I could be wrong though). However I will say that the final decision of Episode 1 of Season 2 could affect how Luke sees Clemintine as he could either show off his bad side, like when he first discovered the dog bite, or he could try to hide his anger or disdain for Clemintine's decision to leave Pete to get devoured by Walkers.
I can see it developing into some sort of platonical brother-sister kind of relationship.
But romance? No.
Yes I stated this in another thread. I believe (and think would be good) if Luke became like a brother figure to Clem throughout the game. I'm really looking forward to the rest of the season
On a side note these trolls downvoting everyone are going to have to realise sometime that they are wasting their own time,but anyway I hope Luke does become a brother almost to Clem he also seems like the leader in episode 2 even though they claim to have a democracy (well I am only saying that because he is leading them in the "next time on the walking dead" trailer I guess you could call it).
I agree Saoralba131, i really hope Luke survives as long as possible!
As for these stupid pricks downvoting, you are right too. This is why facebook doesn't have a dislike button, it would cause arguments. No one knows who downvotes hence why they do it. Sad trolls
Luke is Clem's future husband, ofc he's significant.
I don't think he was intending to imply a romantic relationship.
Yeah, Luke is definitely going to be a major character this season. I'd be surprised if he were killed off before the final Episode. It seems like Clem will have the strongest bond with him out of anyone else in the cabin group, but I don't think he'll be stepping into Lee's role. Not exactly. He'll look out for her, but in a way that's less of a caretaker role, and more of a simple partner role. They'll have each others backs.
Betrayal is an established theme so far, given Sam.
I think Luke might end up abandoning or selling out Clementine to save his group (what Luke is convinced is the greater good and all that), that's the only conceivable way I can think of that he could betray her given his established personality.
The Sam incident showed us that we shouldn't put all our trust in a person just because they were initially friendly. Luke just seems to uncompromisingly good of a person, too few flaws, considering Telltale's character design in TWD, human beings with real flaws and virtues. For example even Lee had a violent side, and Clementine even develops manipulative traits, for example Clementine is often at least tempted to try to manipulate people when her survival is at stake, hence the option when she feels threatened.
It is possible (like a 30% chance?) that Telltale are setting us up for a fall (a betrayal of some kind, even if indirect) with Luke.
I think he accidentally drew a correlation between Clem and Luke's brother/sister relationship to a romantic relationship that he didn't realize existed (Lee/Carley, I thought their romantic interest was extremely obvious). Either all, cut the dude some slack he more than likely miswrote a paragraph, people who Ship Luke or Clem are usually trolls and are usually very overt about it to make us as uncomfortable as possible as quickly as possible before they are Ban hammered back under the bridge. (You have a good aim for a blind sniper, Blind Sniper.)
Truth is, a big brother/little sister style relationship has never been seen before by us, the fans in the series, hence why it would be interesting and why then Telltale would want to pursue it in season 2. It would be a completely different dynamic considering Clem would be the one supposedly "under care". I'm assuming Luke being distracted by the rigors of leading the group, as well as some of the overwhelming odds Kirkman's world can throw at a group would give us playing as Clementine enough room for independent action even when Luke is nearby, assuming he hasn't had to go off-screen to deal with something.
I agree but I feel Pete was more of that charcater that is too perfect. Luke does have his flaws and I think until after epiosde 2 we wont have a good read on most peoples personalities
Or a betrayal from another character
That is true. I mostly skimmed his post due to sudden rush in real life and I'm sorry for jumping in conclusion. Should've read more carefully.
I'm pretty sure they are setting up Luke to be the ultimate good guy, then have him have to betray Clementine or sell her out for the good of the group. That or they are making Luke out to be the ultimate good guy so they can slowly destroy everything good about him as he sinks to lower and lower depths to keep the group alive.
EG Some situation where the group either needs to abandon her to save more of their own, or Carver's or Kenny's or Lilly's group (when we don't know it is the season 1 character at the time) demands Clem as payment for them to leave the Cabin group alone.
Sam's betrayal kind of tipped me off to this, if someone seems to good to be true, they probably are. Telltale likes putting these kinds of 'warnings' into the game, EG Herchel about lying, Kenny about building loyalties to specific camps within groups, Kenny again about acting as a father figure for Clem, Pete about the necessity of "Play(ing) a roll within a group, even if the people you love hate you for it.
you dont know what to expect from telltale
luke,pete and alvin are my favorite thus far
in the end everybody dies and there isnt going to be a season 3
Pete is flawed due to his overdependance on playing as the 'bad cop.' He just seems like a realistically wise older man. His judgement isn't perfect; he is the one that suggests amputating Clementine's dog bitten arm.
The reason he is 'too perfect' is because he more than likely dies in episode 2 if you save him. If you save Nick, Pete gets eaten, if you save Pete, Nick gets away, and is closer to the Cabin than them due to the side of the river he is on (though he does has to go through the forest a ways). The scenes we have been given imply that Nick will always make it back, and Pete will likely die of a too-late amputation or mundane infection or blood loss. This will be rather sad considering my Lee cut his arm off. Clem has a bad time when amputation as a topic gets brought up it seems.
Luke wouldn't have to act alone, Rebecca and Carlos would jump at the opportunity to secure their own interests; Alvin would be suppressed by Rebecca, Sarah by Carlos, only Nick would protest, and only if you forgave and chummed it up with him up to that point.
I keep bringing up betrayal by the way because I think it is how Clementine could end up with Kenny or Lilly's group. TL:DR, Luke's group might sell Clementine out in return for not being attacked, Clementine finds out it is Kenny or Lilly only after you get hit in the feels at maximum betrayal tier velocity,
I don't know, I think Luke will be a second protagonist in this season because he seems important. I don't know if it would be good if he turns out be a psychopatic mastermind who wants to hurt Clem because he is evil. Maybe he isn't evil, maybe he is just a normal guy. Hell, Doug, Carley, Omid, Mark, Chuck and Christa were nice people and they weren't evil monsters who pretended to be good guys.
we know clem is with lukes group until ep 4 where we see the 400 days group.perhaps lukes group is attacked by bandits and she goes to wellington with tavia and the others
My guess is that only one of the following will make it through the whole season and be with Clementine at the end.
Luke, Kenny, and Eddie.
I think what Pete meant was by saying: "Sometimes you gotta play a role, even if people you love hate you for it." is a reference to not making sarcrifices for the good of the whole but to act as a rolemodel for a single individual. Telling hard truths ("nobody is going to give a damn if you like something or not"), encouraging them to perform distateful yet necessary acts (killing a deer), thinking ahead whats best for them even if they don't like it.
It does not imply betraying the people you love for the good of the group, at least not for me it doesn't.
I can see how Luke might end up having a big role in Clems life in the future. Jury is still out on what kind of a person he truly is. First impression is good though and that usually counts for a lot.
I think Luke is listed so high in the credits simply because he is voiced by Scott Porter, a famous actor.
A bit like Robert Kirkman is at the very top of the 'Special Thanks' section.
Hmm. Maybe I should have worded myself more clearly, I never meant to imply that what Pete said meant that. I know what he says is about hard truths.
My point was there, with all of it, was that it shows how Telltale hints at what might happen later in the early episodes, and gives you warnings about some actions you may take (for example, us forgiving Nick might actually lead to him shooting someone later, whereas chastising him gets him more focused. This is hinted at in the 'play a role' speech.
Inb4 Luke is a mastermind manipulator, and is being nice to Clem to get her loyalty, and actually cares nothing of her safety.
Well, I drew that correlation between first and last sentence. Don't judge!
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Regarding Nick:
Perhaps. If he lasts long enough to shoot anyone.
If memory serves there was no sign of either Pete or Nick after the cutscene where they and Clem managed to escape the walkers. This could indicate they both die regardless. Pete is probably going to die of the presumed walker bite. And judging from previous experience (Doug&Carley), if either one dies, so does the other, eventually. Of course the situation this time is different, since Nick presumably escapes the walkers by foot if you go with Pete but Pete gets chewed up if you go with Nick.
Oh, and I totally agree on 'Telltale hints at what might happen later in the early episodes'.
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"A pinky swear is forever." Something bad is going to happen to someones pinky, I just know.
Just to clarify; I was trying to say that it is likely that Luke and Clemintine will develop a strong bond in the sense that his character appears to be very likable and he is the most approachable member of the group. Perhaps I should have compared the bond between Lee and Doug instead of Lee and Carley, so sorry for giving the wrong idea with my post.
The funny thing is that the name Luke means light (it comes from lux, the Latin word for light). Light almost always has positive and good connotations...... Except for one major exception.
The name of Satan before he fell was Lucifer, the angel of light. When light falls, it falls hard. I'm hoping Luke doesn't do something similar.
Pretty cool connection, though the walking dead game doesn't take as many themes from Christianity and religion in general as the show and comic. That could change (spiritual themes in general however, less likely it is Christianity themes) given the episode 4 slide. I'm guessing more native american spirituality themes.
Shaundi?
I'm just saying that light usually has good meanings, but felt inclined to point out that one major exception.
youre right
luke is not a pedophile lol
it's already been pointd out before that Luke is the only one bar Clem to have no relatives within the cabin group. I think that will be hugely important but makes it even more probable that Luke will soon be put in danger. The people with families will always try to save their own first in the midst of an attack, and that puts Luke in a dangerous situation. If it goes down to the wire, who would run to save him when their own relative is struggling, apart from Clem/Nick? But, on a more optimistic note, I think his detachment from the group will make him the most rational of the group when it hits the fan, and would be a better leader than Carlos because of it (despite his initial treatment of Clem). He generally seems like a good person, and so I can see him caring for Clem. Beyond Episode 2, I'm 50/50 over whether he will still be present in the story.