Everyone who dies turns. Take the normal death toll, and then add to whatever deaths by suicide, panic, or murder would have happened in the first few days. Yeah, that's how the military got overrun.
Because there would be no story otherwise. Imagine how anticlimactic it would be if the army showed up at the end of episode 1 bringing blankets and hot chocolate for everyone.
Because writers want "Post-Apocalypse". So that's why. Actually it's easy for most of the armies. Come on, we are at 21st century and WALKING FUCKING DEADS tooooo easy. Running Zombies are really hard but, come on. Walkers? Where the hell is goddamn airforce and tanks? We got a lot of them. And lots of weapons. But you know, writers want post-apocaylpse.
Yeah but then hate our government, not our citizens! Hell I hate my government, any government actually. Power for anybody leads to corruption cause no matter how much power you have there's always somebody who has more power than you that ultimately makes your decisions for you. That's just a sad fact of life. It also doesn't help that we change our President every 4 years, so lets say President X causes 10 years of damage, how the fuck is President Y supposed to fix it in the 4-8 years he's in office. Especially when our government cant agree on shit just because "Oh no he's a republican that makes a decent point? I must disagree with him for the sole fact that I'm a Democrat" or vice versa.
I think that people hate americans because their goverment is hiding many things and now there is that Edward snowden and nsa situation. Also snakecharmerofborg´s reasons are pretty good.
This conversation will not end well. It would be better if all of you stop. We should probably keep political topics out of this forum anyway to prevent internet murders.
This conversation will not end well. It would be better if all of you stop. We should probably keep political topics out of this forum anyway to prevent internet murders.
According to the World Almanac and Book of Facts 2012, roughly 150,000 people die per day.
The U.S. possesses 2.2 million total personnel in all branches, both active and reserve.
The US has roughly the sixth largest military in the world.
In a single month, 4,500,000 people worldwide die, according to the Factbook.
In 30 days, every military on Earth is outnumbered by zombies. And that's not including the huge spike in fatalities caused by the actual outbreak.
This also isn't considering that an army, any army, can't just insta-deploy in their country. The U.S. can't muster up 1.1 million land personnel in an hour anywhere in the country. The outbreak would spread rapidly and the time to actually deploy would be lengthy. This also isn't factoring in personnel who may desert the Army or flee the country once they hear of the outbreaks.
After the outbreak got violent, it'd take time for the National Guard, then the Army, to deploy. They'd fight both zombies and looters/violent civilians.
So if this long list doesn't sum it up: in the early 2000s, when the comic/game are set, it's entirely probable that the outbreak could've overwhelmed the U.S. too quickly for the Military to react. This also could count in allies overseas calling for U.S. help or the U.S. calling for allied help, in which case the U.S. or other countries would be militarily depleted to an extent where their own country would also be susceptible.
So yeah, it's pretty likely. And if you think the armies of the world have it bad in TWD canon, holy shit, imagine how bad it is in canon with sprinting zombies like 28 Days Later.
There is actual military protocol that when faced with a no-win situation, they are told to leave, gather supplies and live on. Many would desert and many would just be disbanded out into the world. The idea is to outlive the threat. Take the years to continue the fight until civilization can return.
I'm thinking that there are military outpost strongholds still around. Military are often more disciplined than civilians, so if you have the … moreright mix of military, it's likely at least a few pockets of military could have survived rather well - the survivors in the TV show, comic, and video game just havent come across them yet - plus they've all been on the east coast.
Also, other countries, like France, apparently lasted a lot longer before infrastructure collapse (imagine that - the french not retreating first?
"Not when it's true." Well fuck you now also.
Is it worth my time? 30 seconds or so to type a simplistic statement? Yes.
I don't care if… more you like us, but mutual respect isn't an outlandish request.
I don't believe any american with an ounce of self-respect would side with you. I still disagree I am proving his point, but again, ok.
You are an ass, and with that said, shall we continue?
I don't hate your country, but there are things I and other people don't like, like that nsa spying thing. America itself is beautiful country and I also have some american relatives n there.
Yeah but then hate our government, not our citizens! Hell I hate my government, any government actually. Power for anybody leads to corruption… more cause no matter how much power you have there's always somebody who has more power than you that ultimately makes your decisions for you. That's just a sad fact of life. It also doesn't help that we change our President every 4 years, so lets say President X causes 10 years of damage, how the fuck is President Y supposed to fix it in the 4-8 years he's in office. Especially when our government cant agree on shit just because "Oh no he's a republican that makes a decent point? I must disagree with him for the sole fact that I'm a Democrat" or vice versa.
Because writers want "Post-Apocalypse". So that's why. Actually it's easy for most of the armies. Come on, we are at 21st century and WALKING … moreFUCKING DEADS tooooo easy. Running Zombies are really hard but, come on. Walkers? Where the hell is goddamn airforce and tanks? We got a lot of them. And lots of weapons. But you know, writers want post-apocaylpse.
There is actual military protocol that when faced with a no-win situation, they are told to leave, gather supplies and live on. Many would des… moreert and many would just be disbanded out into the world. The idea is to outlive the threat. Take the years to continue the fight until civilization can return.
it is going to work,despite the limited armaments,they're well trained,coordinated,and mostly are well supplied,and what they're dealing is a bunch of unorganized,slow,and dumb lifeforms,and of course the number you said wouldn't be concentrated in one location,they will be scattered around,and as long the chain of command still strong,the military can wipe that kind of threat efficiently and effectively
I always think that the Military would be the best thing Because of all those guns and amazing aim and some good strats in there as well. I always think they would be pretty well off.. And then you see only like 1 of them surviving with 1 bullet left or something
Um no, a grenade/missile kills a group, a nuke kills half the population of the U.S., The U.S. wouldn't resort to a nuke in the timespan that it took for them to fall, and they wouldn't do country-wide bombings in that time either, they at most could've started bombing 6 cities in about six/ten hours of the outbreak, it took for it to go nation-wide about five, the Military simply wasn't prepared or fit for such a situation and as such they got their ass kicked and its somewhat believable, as seen in the hospital the Military had no idea what they were doing as they shot people left-and-right to deal with walkers, with that kind of mass murder obviously they'd get constant defections and AWOL's, branches of the military went rouge, the remaining branchs got overrun from the mass loss of personnel, they pulled back to manageable bases elsewhere, they have to be around just not where rick and Co. have been. You don't get it, It was a nation-wide event, not just a couple people in certain places turned, it was everywhere, it was too spread out for the Military to do a damn thing about it, it probably took over a days time for everyone to even know it was happening everywhere and not a local occurance, I mean even on lees way to prison the police were only just starting to broadcast and we could assume it had already gone on for hours judging from the amount of walkers Lee ran into just from shooting a shotgun, by then it would just be too damn late.
The U.S. doesn't start with bombs within a outbreak, and seeing how the walkers work, a explosion brings thousands straight ontop of you, everything is against the military, even airplanes and jets and the like bring walkers back to the base when they go to refill on gas through hordes, there is no winning!
With the outbreak happening and the U.S. starting marshal law killing everyone, it's obvious, waaay obvious that branches went rouge and everything started backfiring!
I happen to agree that the fact they had tanks throughout cities and still completely lost is mind-numbingly stupid, as they would have atleast done some real damage before getting overrun in that case, but there is no evidence to suggest such, but the thing is, assuming they didn't have those tanks immediately and didn't react fast enough, it's believable, they had to prioritise certain locations, and it ended with the rest of the country getting overrun, they probably lost Washington D.C. in hours practically losing half the command of the Military already.
And for all we know, they did win, just obviously and believably in a smaller scale, they probably secured a couple certain places and have splinter groups with their own safe-zone set up out of contact with other groups, it's just without big enough numbers they really can't afford to broadcast on the radio what with all the bandits and crap everywhere they know better than to try it, I imagine they wouldn't be recluses like alot of groups though and would try to find people, what with their superior firepower, what i'm wondering is how they would go about that sort of thing, I mean a Military group would factor Bandits in faster than a regular group.
And they obviously hadn't had time to start bombing since there isn't any real carnage that supports that.
And it is possible at first the U.S. just thought it was some sort of riot or something, IDK it just seems like the police would get overrun, the cities would get overrun, then the Military would wise up and go in, by then as i've said two times now, it's just too late seeing as every city would be overrun, the Police don't keep the Military on call, they have the SWAT with the same tactics and access to the same weaponry for that.
If you want you can keep your arguments but atleast for me it's not holding up and I disagree, it was total annihilation for every city and most of the Military and any number of things could've gone wrong, they merely pulled out to certain regions, reinforced Military bases, and the like, is my theory.
You overestimate the reaction-time of the United States Military, they dont see a couple psychos killing people and think "Oh they are zombies! send the Marines, Spec Ops and start nation-wide city bombings with the Airforce!" by law they are forced to leave such things to the local Police and Riot control, they'd have reacted too damn late!
And even if they did react fast enough to get into the cities and start controlling, thats a couple units of the nearby military base, it would take HOURS for them to come in full force, dude, theres just no way, a country-wide/global zombie outbreak would take a couple hours to be beyond controllable, five at most.
Let me put this in easier terms too, you have Larry as your avatar, so do I, let's use him for this argument, he is ex military, did he once even expect the Military to roll in and save the day? he didn't even mention them, Mark was a surviving military officer too, as was Lily, they didn't expect to be saved by the Military for the same reasons i've mentioned, it took until they heard rifle shots near the end of EP-1 to wonder, did the military finally move in? because that would just take time, time they didn't have.
At a certain point when communications have ceased and when most officers have been overrun or cut off, Military bases and Hangers would just stop sending personnel/planes out until given new orders, thus reinforcements would cease and the remaining soldiers on scene get swarmed, Military bases here and there retain personnel and the C.D.C. remains untouched for the same reason they were, no communication.
It's more likely that by the time Shaun was in the hospital with Rick, that was also a splinter-group in itself, as they were in a big hurry to get the fuck out.
I know right? Civilians start out with barely no supplies and survive a long time. People with riot shields, M4s and bullet (and teeth too!) proof suits die at the beggining. Unbelievable.
What is your problem? What Utopian country do you come from that lets you generalize an entire population where you have never set a foot in? This is supposed to be a thread to analyze a videogame plot not your childish superiority complexes. Sometimes I wish people would realize the amount of ignorance and hate they vomit into this world.
Many people from different countries hate, or rather dislike Americans mainly because they see terrorists round ever corner. However it isn't … morejust that. It's their egos, ignorance, low intelligence, their belief that they invented everything, think they are bigger and better than any other country, their lack of acceptance for the gay population or any minority group, arrogance, brain washing culture, lack of respect for any other religion, colour or creed, the American corrupt political system, outrageous gun laws, money orientated, materialistic, poor education, poor health system, out of control crime, violence, gangs, drugs and murders. Need I go on? These are not just my opinions either. This is what many, many people think that live outside your supposed fantastic country.
Now I realise that there are some decent Americans out there, but on the whole they are very few and far between. I know many like to believe that everyone wants to li… [view original content]
I meant if they're going to have to kill all of the walkers. Geez, even if they're like the modern day descendants of Leonidas - that's still too much for them to chew. Eventually, organization is gonna get fucked and it'd just be factions, then groups, then individual survivors who have survived somehow...
it is going to work,despite the limited armaments,they're well trained,coordinated,and mostly are well supplied,and what they're dealing is a … morebunch of unorganized,slow,and dumb lifeforms,and of course the number you said wouldn't be concentrated in one location,they will be scattered around,and as long the chain of command still strong,the military can wipe that kind of threat efficiently and effectively
Trust me are citizens aren't happy about the nsa thing either. Like I said our government is a piece of shit. We have the illusion of freedom when we are forced to sign up for this piece of shit Obama care program. Some of us are poor and don't need another mother fucking bill.
I don't hate your country, but there are things I and other people don't like, like that nsa spying thing. America itself is beautiful country and I also have some american relatives n there.
Dude, you were the one saying other countries are worse than America because they haven't tried to stop terrorism (which isn't even remotely true anyway).
You shouldn't hate yourself for living there, you should judge the quality of your country with your own mind. However, stating incorrect facts to support your argument isn't really going to help to remove the American arrogance myth, is it?
Ok that comment came from a combination of laziness of explaining myself and some partial ignorance. I just know if I ever travel to Europe im saying im Canadian as much as you guys over there seem to hate us so much. We're already (?)trillion dollars in debt what more do you want us to do? Lol and for a country that's barely over 300 years old that's sad. But I believe in pride in ones self not in ones country. Judging somebody by where they live is the same as judging somebody by the color of their skin and really we americans are just former Europeans.
Dude, you were the one saying other countries are worse than America because they haven't tried to stop terrorism (which isn't even remotely t… morerue anyway).
You shouldn't hate yourself for living there, you should judge the quality of your country with your own mind. However, stating incorrect facts to support your argument isn't really going to help to remove the American arrogance myth, is it?
If you believe pride comes in one's self not one country, which I wholeheartedly agree with, then why on Earth were you heralding America's 'achievements'?
Also, as a side note, judging someone on where they live is not like judging someone of their race, sex or sexuality. You can move country, but you can't become 'un-asian' or 'un-gay'.
Ok that comment came from a combination of laziness of explaining myself and some partial ignorance. I just know if I ever travel to Europe im… more saying im Canadian as much as you guys over there seem to hate us so much. We're already (?)trillion dollars in debt what more do you want us to do? Lol and for a country that's barely over 300 years old that's sad. But I believe in pride in ones self not in ones country. Judging somebody by where they live is the same as judging somebody by the color of their skin and really we americans are just former Europeans.
It really pretty much is the same. If you don't think so then hating sombebody because where they just happened to be born is just as ignorant as hating somebody based on what they were born as. Im tired of this discussion and I regret commenting on it. im here to talk about The walking dead not why everybody hates us americans based on what our dumbass government has done in the past, present, and future. News flash your country isn't perfect and you don't shit out rainbows full of gold so get over yourself.
If you believe pride comes in one's self not one country, which I wholeheartedly agree with, then why on Earth were you heralding America's 'a… morechievements'?
Also, as a side note, judging someone on where they live is not like judging someone of their race, sex or sexuality. You can move country, but you can't become 'un-asian' or 'un-gay'.
I never said my country was perfect, nor that it was better than America.
Nor did I say I don't live in america.
However, you CAN EASILY move to another country if you dislike the one you're born in. You CAN'T EASILY change the sexuality, race or sex that you were born with.
It really pretty much is the same. If you don't think so then hating sombebody because where they just happened to be born is just as ignoran… moret as hating somebody based on what they were born as. Im tired of this discussion and I regret commenting on it. im here to talk about The walking dead not why everybody hates us americans based on what our dumbass government has done in the past, present, and future. News flash your country isn't perfect and you don't shit out rainbows full of gold so get over yourself.
Well I don't hate where I live I just hate how things are run. And honestly I don't want to move any where else cause the minute I say Im from America, just might be the words that lead to my downfall. I see it all the time and wish people were not so stupid. I live with racism everyday already (well since im white its for some reason called "reverse racism" here in america) cause I live in Houston and the Hispanics around where I live think I don't know what blanco or gringo means when they are clearly talking shit about me in their native language. I wish more people were like me and didn't see race but its hard not to when your the one singled out by another race, basically I gotta live with being hated for who I just happened to be born as whether its for being white or whether its for being American apparently. Im not racist I hate humans as a whole.
I never said my country was perfect, nor that it was better than America.
Nor did I say I don't live in america.
However, you CAN EASILY… more move to another country if you dislike the one you're born in. You CAN'T EASILY change the sexuality, race or sex that you were born with.
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That's kinda impossible considering there are only 7 billion people on earth...
You said the same thing as me but dumbed it down... you get 9 likes i get 1....
I dunno, I'd kind of like that.
Because writers want "Post-Apocalypse". So that's why. Actually it's easy for most of the armies. Come on, we are at 21st century and WALKING FUCKING DEADS tooooo easy. Running Zombies are really hard but, come on. Walkers? Where the hell is goddamn airforce and tanks? We got a lot of them. And lots of weapons. But you know, writers want post-apocaylpse.
Maybe because you used "your" and not "you're"?
Yeah but then hate our government, not our citizens! Hell I hate my government, any government actually. Power for anybody leads to corruption cause no matter how much power you have there's always somebody who has more power than you that ultimately makes your decisions for you. That's just a sad fact of life. It also doesn't help that we change our President every 4 years, so lets say President X causes 10 years of damage, how the fuck is President Y supposed to fix it in the 4-8 years he's in office. Especially when our government cant agree on shit just because "Oh no he's a republican that makes a decent point? I must disagree with him for the sole fact that I'm a Democrat" or vice versa.
This conversation will not end well. It would be better if all of you stop. We should probably keep political topics out of this forum anyway to prevent internet murders.
In TeeRave's defense, the average Parisian probably thinks of himself or herself as being worth about 2 million non-Parisians.
Btw, Paris only has 2.1 million people in the city.
End well? It hasn't started or continued well...
According to the World Almanac and Book of Facts 2012, roughly 150,000 people die per day.
The U.S. possesses 2.2 million total personnel in all branches, both active and reserve.
The US has roughly the sixth largest military in the world.
In a single month, 4,500,000 people worldwide die, according to the Factbook.
In 30 days, every military on Earth is outnumbered by zombies. And that's not including the huge spike in fatalities caused by the actual outbreak.
This also isn't considering that an army, any army, can't just insta-deploy in their country. The U.S. can't muster up 1.1 million land personnel in an hour anywhere in the country. The outbreak would spread rapidly and the time to actually deploy would be lengthy. This also isn't factoring in personnel who may desert the Army or flee the country once they hear of the outbreaks.
After the outbreak got violent, it'd take time for the National Guard, then the Army, to deploy. They'd fight both zombies and looters/violent civilians.
So if this long list doesn't sum it up: in the early 2000s, when the comic/game are set, it's entirely probable that the outbreak could've overwhelmed the U.S. too quickly for the Military to react. This also could count in allies overseas calling for U.S. help or the U.S. calling for allied help, in which case the U.S. or other countries would be militarily depleted to an extent where their own country would also be susceptible.
So yeah, it's pretty likely. And if you think the armies of the world have it bad in TWD canon, holy shit, imagine how bad it is in canon with sprinting zombies like 28 Days Later.
There is actual military protocol that when faced with a no-win situation, they are told to leave, gather supplies and live on. Many would desert and many would just be disbanded out into the world. The idea is to outlive the threat. Take the years to continue the fight until civilization can return.
I'd laugh if the characters reached Canada and everything was just fine.
No thank you. I pretty much gave up 1 million posts ago.
I don't hate your country, but there are things I and other people don't like, like that nsa spying thing. America itself is beautiful country and I also have some american relatives n there.
Yeah right you just don't want to be hated on here
me too,I mean it's not really an apocalypse if there are still some survivors
indeed,and apocalypse mean there will be no survivors at all,no more life form,but TWD is more like prolonged natural disaster
that's really how it's supposed to be,but some people seems pretty dense,and wanted the story setting remain apocalyptic like and chaotic permanently
it is going to work,despite the limited armaments,they're well trained,coordinated,and mostly are well supplied,and what they're dealing is a bunch of unorganized,slow,and dumb lifeforms,and of course the number you said wouldn't be concentrated in one location,they will be scattered around,and as long the chain of command still strong,the military can wipe that kind of threat efficiently and effectively
I wish there's a story from the military perspective in TWD universe
The greatest arsenal against the zombie apocalypse? Socialized health care, apparently!
I always think that the Military would be the best thing Because of all those guns and amazing aim and some good strats in there as well. I always think they would be pretty well off.. And then you see only like 1 of them surviving with 1 bullet left or something
Please tell me more about how the US has prevented the Israeli and Palestinian terrorists in the West Bank.
Right, because your argument holds validity.
Um no, a grenade/missile kills a group, a nuke kills half the population of the U.S., The U.S. wouldn't resort to a nuke in the timespan that it took for them to fall, and they wouldn't do country-wide bombings in that time either, they at most could've started bombing 6 cities in about six/ten hours of the outbreak, it took for it to go nation-wide about five, the Military simply wasn't prepared or fit for such a situation and as such they got their ass kicked and its somewhat believable, as seen in the hospital the Military had no idea what they were doing as they shot people left-and-right to deal with walkers, with that kind of mass murder obviously they'd get constant defections and AWOL's, branches of the military went rouge, the remaining branchs got overrun from the mass loss of personnel, they pulled back to manageable bases elsewhere, they have to be around just not where rick and Co. have been. You don't get it, It was a nation-wide event, not just a couple people in certain places turned, it was everywhere, it was too spread out for the Military to do a damn thing about it, it probably took over a days time for everyone to even know it was happening everywhere and not a local occurance, I mean even on lees way to prison the police were only just starting to broadcast and we could assume it had already gone on for hours judging from the amount of walkers Lee ran into just from shooting a shotgun, by then it would just be too damn late.
The U.S. doesn't start with bombs within a outbreak, and seeing how the walkers work, a explosion brings thousands straight ontop of you, everything is against the military, even airplanes and jets and the like bring walkers back to the base when they go to refill on gas through hordes, there is no winning!
With the outbreak happening and the U.S. starting marshal law killing everyone, it's obvious, waaay obvious that branches went rouge and everything started backfiring!
I happen to agree that the fact they had tanks throughout cities and still completely lost is mind-numbingly stupid, as they would have atleast done some real damage before getting overrun in that case, but there is no evidence to suggest such, but the thing is, assuming they didn't have those tanks immediately and didn't react fast enough, it's believable, they had to prioritise certain locations, and it ended with the rest of the country getting overrun, they probably lost Washington D.C. in hours practically losing half the command of the Military already.
And for all we know, they did win, just obviously and believably in a smaller scale, they probably secured a couple certain places and have splinter groups with their own safe-zone set up out of contact with other groups, it's just without big enough numbers they really can't afford to broadcast on the radio what with all the bandits and crap everywhere they know better than to try it, I imagine they wouldn't be recluses like alot of groups though and would try to find people, what with their superior firepower, what i'm wondering is how they would go about that sort of thing, I mean a Military group would factor Bandits in faster than a regular group.
And they obviously hadn't had time to start bombing since there isn't any real carnage that supports that.
And it is possible at first the U.S. just thought it was some sort of riot or something, IDK it just seems like the police would get overrun, the cities would get overrun, then the Military would wise up and go in, by then as i've said two times now, it's just too late seeing as every city would be overrun, the Police don't keep the Military on call, they have the SWAT with the same tactics and access to the same weaponry for that.
If you want you can keep your arguments but atleast for me it's not holding up and I disagree, it was total annihilation for every city and most of the Military and any number of things could've gone wrong, they merely pulled out to certain regions, reinforced Military bases, and the like, is my theory.
You overestimate the reaction-time of the United States Military, they dont see a couple psychos killing people and think "Oh they are zombies! send the Marines, Spec Ops and start nation-wide city bombings with the Airforce!" by law they are forced to leave such things to the local Police and Riot control, they'd have reacted too damn late!
And even if they did react fast enough to get into the cities and start controlling, thats a couple units of the nearby military base, it would take HOURS for them to come in full force, dude, theres just no way, a country-wide/global zombie outbreak would take a couple hours to be beyond controllable, five at most.
Let me put this in easier terms too, you have Larry as your avatar, so do I, let's use him for this argument, he is ex military, did he once even expect the Military to roll in and save the day? he didn't even mention them, Mark was a surviving military officer too, as was Lily, they didn't expect to be saved by the Military for the same reasons i've mentioned, it took until they heard rifle shots near the end of EP-1 to wonder, did the military finally move in? because that would just take time, time they didn't have.
At a certain point when communications have ceased and when most officers have been overrun or cut off, Military bases and Hangers would just stop sending personnel/planes out until given new orders, thus reinforcements would cease and the remaining soldiers on scene get swarmed, Military bases here and there retain personnel and the C.D.C. remains untouched for the same reason they were, no communication.
It's more likely that by the time Shaun was in the hospital with Rick, that was also a splinter-group in itself, as they were in a big hurry to get the fuck out.
Since EVERYONE are infected, and there is no cure, everything will fall pretty fast.
because its just a story hhhhhhhhhh
I know right? Civilians start out with barely no supplies and survive a long time. People with riot shields, M4s and bullet (and teeth too!) proof suits die at the beggining. Unbelievable.
What is your problem? What Utopian country do you come from that lets you generalize an entire population where you have never set a foot in? This is supposed to be a thread to analyze a videogame plot not your childish superiority complexes. Sometimes I wish people would realize the amount of ignorance and hate they vomit into this world.
I meant if they're going to have to kill all of the walkers. Geez, even if they're like the modern day descendants of Leonidas - that's still too much for them to chew. Eventually, organization is gonna get fucked and it'd just be factions, then groups, then individual survivors who have survived somehow...
Trust me are citizens aren't happy about the nsa thing either. Like I said our government is a piece of shit. We have the illusion of freedom when we are forced to sign up for this piece of shit Obama care program. Some of us are poor and don't need another mother fucking bill.
Ok Flog61 I get it America bad and I should hate myself because I live here. Happy?
Dude, you were the one saying other countries are worse than America because they haven't tried to stop terrorism (which isn't even remotely true anyway).
You shouldn't hate yourself for living there, you should judge the quality of your country with your own mind. However, stating incorrect facts to support your argument isn't really going to help to remove the American arrogance myth, is it?
Ok that comment came from a combination of laziness of explaining myself and some partial ignorance. I just know if I ever travel to Europe im saying im Canadian as much as you guys over there seem to hate us so much. We're already (?)trillion dollars in debt what more do you want us to do? Lol and for a country that's barely over 300 years old that's sad. But I believe in pride in ones self not in ones country. Judging somebody by where they live is the same as judging somebody by the color of their skin and really we americans are just former Europeans.
If you believe pride comes in one's self not one country, which I wholeheartedly agree with, then why on Earth were you heralding America's 'achievements'?
Also, as a side note, judging someone on where they live is not like judging someone of their race, sex or sexuality. You can move country, but you can't become 'un-asian' or 'un-gay'.
Lmao Obama care caused the zombie apocalypse I knew it. Damn you Obama!!!!
It really pretty much is the same. If you don't think so then hating sombebody because where they just happened to be born is just as ignorant as hating somebody based on what they were born as. Im tired of this discussion and I regret commenting on it. im here to talk about The walking dead not why everybody hates us americans based on what our dumbass government has done in the past, present, and future. News flash your country isn't perfect and you don't shit out rainbows full of gold so get over yourself.
I never said my country was perfect, nor that it was better than America.
Nor did I say I don't live in america.
However, you CAN EASILY move to another country if you dislike the one you're born in. You CAN'T EASILY change the sexuality, race or sex that you were born with.
Well I don't hate where I live I just hate how things are run. And honestly I don't want to move any where else cause the minute I say Im from America, just might be the words that lead to my downfall. I see it all the time and wish people were not so stupid. I live with racism everyday already (well since im white its for some reason called "reverse racism" here in america) cause I live in Houston and the Hispanics around where I live think I don't know what blanco or gringo means when they are clearly talking shit about me in their native language. I wish more people were like me and didn't see race but its hard not to when your the one singled out by another race, basically I gotta live with being hated for who I just happened to be born as whether its for being white or whether its for being American apparently. Im not racist I hate humans as a whole.