I agree. Lilly wouldn't of killed Carley (I suppose) If she wasn't so paranoid. And he killed her dad... so that gives more fault to Kenny. Also there's fault to Ben, to making the deal with the bandits. I'm sorry, Kenny lovers. I honestly like Lilly...
If Larry had lived, Carley would've too, Duck and Katjaa wouldn't have got bitten, charles wouldn't have had to die to save Clem, really, ever… moreything would've been better with just another set of hands, assuming he didn't get shot while selflessly albeit rashly resisting the initial bandit attack.
Actually no, he could've been reanimating. Telltale said themselves that the breath could mean anything, they wanted Larry's reanimation to be really ambiguous.
Honestly I can't see it being any ones fault but Lilly's in that scene SHE pulled out the gun and SHE slowly and carefully aimed it at Carley and SHE pulled the trigger.
I don't buy into the fact she was paranoid since they were actually being stolen from yes she was distressed about her dad and given her military background and training she really should of held up better then most of the group but all the survivors are suffering some form of emotional stress I mean Kenny has kept blaming himself for Shawn's death and basically says so on the train. Lee was stressed out over the things that Clementine has been seeing and says so to Carly at the end of episode2 . Carley wasn't sleeping well as a result of what happened at the drug store either. If your going to argue about Lilly's state of mind you've got to take into account she's not the only one suffering from stress as well.
As for Carly apparently sassing Lilly lets be honest no one likes being blamed for something they didn't do and would likely become defensive and even a bit aggressive and think about this the entire group had just been held at gun point and lost what little they had every one was going to be a bit emotional I mean when Lilly started accusing everyone Ben looked terrified and he even volunteered to be left behind to me Lilly clearly blamed Ben a lot during that scene and he gave her a chance to kick him out but the fact that she kept pushing for a confession tells me she was out for blood.
Kenny's main problem was he was cowardly for most of Season 1 (with very brief periods of not being a coward), up until the end where he finally did something brave.
Not helping to save Herschel's son even after Duck was safe.
Being so gung ho to kill Larry (who definitely deserves to die in a zombie apocalypse but he could have waited until he actually DIED before smashing his head in, or at least giving Lee a chance to try to save him)
The kid in the attic.
Automatically deciding he should kill Lee when they were trapped in the attic before TRYING to figure some way out of there.
How hard it is to get him to come with you to save Clementine if you ever don't go along with every single thing he asks
Wanting Lee to let Ben fall (Ben did not get Duck or Katja killed - he was trying to make sure the bandits would NOT attack).
Trying to attack Molly from behind even after it was clear that Lee and Molly were no longer fighting - which drew the horde over
He did have ONE positive moment - helping Lee up when Larry punched him in the pharmacy. Other than that, the only moment of heroism was in the end, where he either seemingly sacrifices himself for Ben, or seemingly sacrifices himself for Krista (and the walkie talkie to help Clem) - and the fact that even if you don't go with his ideas all the time, he MIGHT still go with you if you tell him to 'do it for Clem'
That's why I really hope it's Kenny who comes back - he had that moment of redemption towards the end, and it would be nice for that to be rewarded a little by living at least a little longer.
Not trying to be rude in anyway but every time I see someone talking shit about Kenny you come in a start shit talking the person that was tal… moreking shit about Kenny. Do you ever defend any other character other than Kenny? I have nothing against Kenny but lets face it he isn't the best character ever, in fact no character is the best. I know this will get like 1000 dislikes but I am just pointing that out.
hard to blame kenny, lee or ben for that situation. Ben did cause the bandit attack, but that was inevitable. the bandits were boiling over and desperate, the motor inn was no longer safe and they no longer had a good supply of food/medicine. they needed to leave. Lilly sucked from Day one. She had some organizational abilities, but that doesn't make her a leader. She didn't come up with any solutions, and she didn't take any leaps. She is partially to blame for the whole farm situation, She and Larry weren't even concerned about anything. Nobody had Seen mark for hours and they weren't even a little concerned?
I blame Lilly for what she did. that dumb hot-head can rot. though I have a feeling she is still alive...
One, I don't "start talking shit about the person that was talking shit about Kenny". I've very rarely resorted to insults here, and most of the time the other person started it if that is the case.
I do defend other characters, it's just that people hate on Kenny or Lilly the most. I'm not going to defend Lilly, so...
Not trying to be rude in anyway but every time I see someone talking shit about Kenny you come in a start shit talking the person that was tal… moreking shit about Kenny. Do you ever defend any other character other than Kenny? I have nothing against Kenny but lets face it he isn't the best character ever, in fact no character is the best. I know this will get like 1000 dislikes but I am just pointing that out.
You know what I meant man, I was just saying those two wouldn't have ended up dead, atleast not like that, he was a grumpy old man who made brash and often bad decisions, that doesn't make him a cold-hearted old fart, he was short-tempered, sure, but the reason he hated Lee so much isn't only because of his prejudice against the killer side of him, it was also because he was trying to protect his daughter AND clementine, or he wouldn't have even mentioned her in your close up of him, If he had lived Lily wouldn't have snapped and Ben would have got kicked out of the group then and there, which I resent, but it would have ended better, unless he died at the motor-inn raid.
In my opinion Larry has the most developed personality and morals of the drug-store group, in every scene he was in, he added tension, and you could see where he was coming from if you weren't just seeing a asshole old man, he wasn't so bad, just soooo grumpy, seeing that scene where he said 'It's just the hunger, its getting to me', after mark said Lee defended him, was proof enough of this.
He was the medium of the drug-store group, the truth is, the group in every sense and every way, despite what people say, would've been better off with him around, as him and lily were the first to take action in every scene they were in, even in the last one that ended Larrys life, as he desperately tried to get the group out of the locker, albeit in a stupid way.
Larry is not even close to a hero, but he can be when he needs to be, as evidenced in the axe scene, he wouldn't just 'let' anyone in the group get killed unless he had a reason to, and obviously by that scene he didn't want Lee dead as much as everyone thinks past the initial attempt on his life, he'd try to save anyone in the group as fast as anyone else.
Speaking as a huge kenny fan - yes, now that i think about it he probably did, but it wasn't just his fault - it was mostly bens (speaking as a huge hater of ben) but it also came down to the fact that lily was just a bitch, and what happened was pretty much going too happen at somepoint.
People who are saying that if kenny didn't kill Larry then Carley wouldn't die
Don't u think Larry would've killed Carley himself wanna know what u guys think about this
One, I don't "start talking shit about the person that was talking shit about Kenny". I've very rarely resorted to insults here, and most of t… morehe time the other person started it if that is the case.
I do defend other characters, it's just that people hate on Kenny or Lilly the most. I'm not going to defend Lilly, so...
Alright I guess I see where your coming from but it still doesn't give him the right to kick Duck out without him checking for bites himself. It's like don't judge a book by it's cover except in a more serious way.
You know what I meant man, I was just saying those two wouldn't have ended up dead, atleast not like that, he was a grumpy old man who made br… moreash and often bad decisions, that doesn't make him a cold-hearted old fart, he was short-tempered, sure, but the reason he hated Lee so much isn't only because of his prejudice against the killer side of him, it was also because he was trying to protect his daughter AND clementine, or he wouldn't have even mentioned her in your close up of him, If he had lived Lily wouldn't have snapped and Ben would have got kicked out of the group then and there, which I resent, but it would have ended better, unless he died at the motor-inn raid.
In my opinion Larry has the most developed personality and morals of the drug-store group, in every scene he was in, he added tension, and you could see where he was coming from if you weren't just seeing a asshole old man, he wasn't so bad, just soooo grumpy, seeing that sce… [view original content]
No it really doesn't, and I can't justify that, and wouldn't want to, i'll just put it down to desperate people make desperate choices, same as with Kenny crushing his head, another thing to mention about Larry that is overlooked, if you don't side with anyone in the duck scene, Katjaa will find no bite and Kenny will say 'You hear that? no bite, now what do you say?' and he replies 'I'm fucking sorry.'
Alright I guess I see where your coming from but it still doesn't give him the right to kick Duck out without him checking for bites himself. It's like don't judge a book by it's cover except in a more serious way.
No it really doesn't, and I can't justify that, and wouldn't want to, i'll just put it down to desperate people make desperate choices, same a… mores with Kenny crushing his head, another thing to mention about Larry that is overlooked, if you don't side with anyone in the duck scene, Katjaa will find no bite and Kenny will say 'You hear that? no bite, now what do you say?' and he replies 'I'm fucking sorry.'
Anger, Depression, Grief, Stress, all of these things can make a non-psychotic person do these things, she is not crazy, she just couldn't control herself and snapped, mentally healthy people do it every day.
It's not like Carley knew Lilly was psycho enough to shoot her, they'd been in the same group for months. If she knew how dangerous Lilly was … moreI bet you she wouldn't have said anything. I pity Lilly but it takes a special kind of person to shoot someone in the back because their feelings are hurt.
I even let Lilly back on the RV out of pity, but YOU and only YOU are the person responsible for your actions.
At the end of the day, you can't blame anyone for what YOU did, but YOU. Unless you're a moral coward.
You fuck up, you own it, at least adults do.
Lilly actions are entirely her own. Everyone has reasons to do fucked up shit. Some people give in to rage, or hate or simple ennui, others don't,
But when you fuck up, it's no ones fault but your own.
People hate on Clementine? Well, I know they do, but more so than Lilly or Kenny? I haven't seen that being the case, unless you're talking about the one "sexist" troll, or the one "Clementine should die" troll. I've learned to ignore those guys.
No, if he did refuse the bandits they'd have just kept attacking and eventually broke into the inn, and you know where that leads? no chance for resistence and everyone gets shot and killed on sight.
Not to mention they had caught Ben already, so thats someone already dead.
Well, like it or not Ben still is the one to blame for what happened at the motor inn. Now granted, Ben wasn't in a position to refuse the ban… moredits, but he could at least warn the group about it,thus giving them time to prepare in case the bandits decide to attack.
No, if he did refuse the bandits they'd have just kept attacking and eventually broke into the inn, and you know where that leads? no chance for resistence and everyone gets shot and killed on sight.
Not to mention they had caught Ben already, so thats someone already dead.
Not to mention the group was already running low on food/ammo/guns, with the bandits pinning them down theres really no hope, and they were until Ben struck the deal.
I sympathise with him too, I rather liked him and tbh I think he should've lived to the end with Christa too, as opposed to Clem/Christa/Omid, it would've made for a more shocking season 2, when Christa ends up dead and Bens still alive, LOL!
We could go on about "what if's" for hours and get nowhere. Now, i'm not hating,nor am i bashing Ben. I have just responded to the OP question… more, which in that particular scenario, Ben is to blame no matter how you put it. As i said before, a lot of us(including me) sympathize with him simply because we could be like him in the ZA. Does that change the fact that even when he tried to help things didn't end up well for the group? No, it does not.
Actually no, he could've been reanimating. Telltale said themselves that the breath could mean anything, they wanted Larry's reanimation to be really ambiguous.
People hate on Clementine? Well, I know they do, but more so than Lilly or Kenny? I haven't seen that being the case, unless you're talking about the one "sexist" troll, or the one "Clementine should die" troll. I've learned to ignore those guys.
He was sort of preoccupied with removing the ravenous living corpse from the front wheels of their only means of escape.He had no time think about this petty nonsensical arguing going on, and for as much as he disliked Lilly, he wasn't expecting her to pop somebody.
Well, if you think about it, so did Lilly. Like she said, stealing your supplies is like slipping into your room and cutting your throat at night-- you die. Well, she made a quick assumption, but so did Kenny. Kenny didn't even give Larry a chance he just smashed his face. Lilly jumped to conclusions also, and shot Carley. But if she did steal the supplies, she had a reason to do it, just like Kenny.
Lilly kinda just goes with it, though. Trying to justify it? Kenny had a purpose to kill, at least. Lilly just takes a healthy, innocent life … moreregardless on whom you chose. I wonder if people would have gotten madder if Kenny was the one shot and killed, considering his fanbase and that he had a family to care for, and his relationship with Lee. Would've been interesting, at the least.
It's called paranoia when you get agitated and start making rash and illogical decisions, and start accusing people without evidence. All the bag proved was that someone was giving the bandits supplies. IT DID NOT tell her who, or why. Lilly was paranoid. She started accusing, threatening, and insulting Carley or Ben without good evidence, tries to pressure Ben into telling her it was Carley. (Which makes absolutely no fucking sense-how would Ben know that Carley had done it if he wasn't in on it? In which case, what does shooting either of them without questioning them first solve in the present moment?)
There was no pressing reason to work out who did it at that exact moment. Then she intentionally shoots Carley in cold blood, or tries to kill a kid, but instead kills Doug due to Doug's selfless heroism.
At the RV scene, She was clearly paranoid. She was afflicted with Paranoia. It's an actual mental illness. If you don't like the word or what it implies, that's unfortunate, because it's a perfect describer of her worn down mental state in that moment.
Kenny caused Lilly's paranoia directly anyway.
Besides, I'm not sure we can call it 'paranoia'. Paranoia would be if she thought supplies were being stolen and they weren't. But they were.
He ensured that her likely to die anyway father died, in order to directly ensure the immediate survival of the entire group. I don't see how he personally betrayed her trust. Also, you have to trust someone to be betrayed. Lilly never trusted Kenny.
By the way, if you are having a heart attack, and you are weak and without medicine like Larry, you are likely to die because of CPR's strain on your body. Larry was 90% certain to be a dead man, and when he died it was a 90% possibility that a walker Larry could overpower the three of them easily, leading to everyone's deaths, including two children.
Try to kill a gigantic, terrifyingly strong walker with just a brick.
But Kenny wasn't a stranger, and he betrayed her trust (regardless of whether he was right to do so).
Thus, after episode 2, she began to trust her actual group less.
I like the part where you throw out baseless assumptions then demand that everyone prove you wrong without you proving your self right.
Then insult everyone who has decided to disagree with your unfounded idea by calling them cute.
I think you should improve yourself and the way you communicate with others by
A: providing at least a tiny amount of evidence to support your claim in the initial sentence to serve as a conversation starter, (EG 'Lilly's paranoia was exacerbated by Kenny's actions...BECAUSE he argued with her alot' (not that I believe that is a strong argument).
AND B: When people disagree with you, instead of insulting them, if they haven't provided evidence that counters or overshadows your evidence, then ask them why they disagree with you.
Keep in mind you didn't provide evidence to your initial statement, then insulted people for not providing evidence against it. This is what I am referring to. Also, I fucking hate it when people insult others merely for disagreeing.
I like how people dislike my comment without providing evidence to the contrary. Cute.
Lilly trusts people less after Kenny and possibly Lee help to kill her dad. This is logical.
But Kenny wasn't a stranger, and he betrayed her trust (regardless of whether he was right to do so).
Thus, after episode 2, she began to trust her actual group less.
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I agree. Lilly wouldn't of killed Carley (I suppose) If she wasn't so paranoid. And he killed her dad... so that gives more fault to Kenny. Also there's fault to Ben, to making the deal with the bandits. I'm sorry, Kenny lovers. I honestly like Lilly...
Katjaa was never bitten only duck was. Katjaa ended up committing suicide because she couldn't live without Duck.
How was ben to blame for Lee's death?
Actually no, he could've been reanimating. Telltale said themselves that the breath could mean anything, they wanted Larry's reanimation to be really ambiguous.
Honestly I can't see it being any ones fault but Lilly's in that scene SHE pulled out the gun and SHE slowly and carefully aimed it at Carley and SHE pulled the trigger.
I don't buy into the fact she was paranoid since they were actually being stolen from yes she was distressed about her dad and given her military background and training she really should of held up better then most of the group but all the survivors are suffering some form of emotional stress I mean Kenny has kept blaming himself for Shawn's death and basically says so on the train. Lee was stressed out over the things that Clementine has been seeing and says so to Carly at the end of episode2 . Carley wasn't sleeping well as a result of what happened at the drug store either. If your going to argue about Lilly's state of mind you've got to take into account she's not the only one suffering from stress as well.
As for Carly apparently sassing Lilly lets be honest no one likes being blamed for something they didn't do and would likely become defensive and even a bit aggressive and think about this the entire group had just been held at gun point and lost what little they had every one was going to be a bit emotional I mean when Lilly started accusing everyone Ben looked terrified and he even volunteered to be left behind to me Lilly clearly blamed Ben a lot during that scene and he gave her a chance to kick him out but the fact that she kept pushing for a confession tells me she was out for blood.
Kenny's main problem was he was cowardly for most of Season 1 (with very brief periods of not being a coward), up until the end where he finally did something brave.
Not helping to save Herschel's son even after Duck was safe.
Being so gung ho to kill Larry (who definitely deserves to die in a zombie apocalypse but he could have waited until he actually DIED before smashing his head in, or at least giving Lee a chance to try to save him)
The kid in the attic.
Automatically deciding he should kill Lee when they were trapped in the attic before TRYING to figure some way out of there.
How hard it is to get him to come with you to save Clementine if you ever don't go along with every single thing he asks
Wanting Lee to let Ben fall (Ben did not get Duck or Katja killed - he was trying to make sure the bandits would NOT attack).
Trying to attack Molly from behind even after it was clear that Lee and Molly were no longer fighting - which drew the horde over
He did have ONE positive moment - helping Lee up when Larry punched him in the pharmacy. Other than that, the only moment of heroism was in the end, where he either seemingly sacrifices himself for Ben, or seemingly sacrifices himself for Krista (and the walkie talkie to help Clem) - and the fact that even if you don't go with his ideas all the time, he MIGHT still go with you if you tell him to 'do it for Clem'
That's why I really hope it's Kenny who comes back - he had that moment of redemption towards the end, and it would be nice for that to be rewarded a little by living at least a little longer.
hard to blame kenny, lee or ben for that situation. Ben did cause the bandit attack, but that was inevitable. the bandits were boiling over and desperate, the motor inn was no longer safe and they no longer had a good supply of food/medicine. they needed to leave. Lilly sucked from Day one. She had some organizational abilities, but that doesn't make her a leader. She didn't come up with any solutions, and she didn't take any leaps. She is partially to blame for the whole farm situation, She and Larry weren't even concerned about anything. Nobody had Seen mark for hours and they weren't even a little concerned?
I blame Lilly for what she did. that dumb hot-head can rot. though I have a feeling she is still alive...
One, I don't "start talking shit about the person that was talking shit about Kenny". I've very rarely resorted to insults here, and most of the time the other person started it if that is the case.
I do defend other characters, it's just that people hate on Kenny or Lilly the most. I'm not going to defend Lilly, so...
You know what I meant man, I was just saying those two wouldn't have ended up dead, atleast not like that, he was a grumpy old man who made brash and often bad decisions, that doesn't make him a cold-hearted old fart, he was short-tempered, sure, but the reason he hated Lee so much isn't only because of his prejudice against the killer side of him, it was also because he was trying to protect his daughter AND clementine, or he wouldn't have even mentioned her in your close up of him, If he had lived Lily wouldn't have snapped and Ben would have got kicked out of the group then and there, which I resent, but it would have ended better, unless he died at the motor-inn raid.
In my opinion Larry has the most developed personality and morals of the drug-store group, in every scene he was in, he added tension, and you could see where he was coming from if you weren't just seeing a asshole old man, he wasn't so bad, just soooo grumpy, seeing that scene where he said 'It's just the hunger, its getting to me', after mark said Lee defended him, was proof enough of this.
He was the medium of the drug-store group, the truth is, the group in every sense and every way, despite what people say, would've been better off with him around, as him and lily were the first to take action in every scene they were in, even in the last one that ended Larrys life, as he desperately tried to get the group out of the locker, albeit in a stupid way.
Larry is not even close to a hero, but he can be when he needs to be, as evidenced in the axe scene, he wouldn't just 'let' anyone in the group get killed unless he had a reason to, and obviously by that scene he didn't want Lee dead as much as everyone thinks past the initial attempt on his life, he'd try to save anyone in the group as fast as anyone else.
Speaking as a huge kenny fan - yes, now that i think about it he probably did, but it wasn't just his fault - it was mostly bens (speaking as a huge hater of ben) but it also came down to the fact that lily was just a bitch, and what happened was pretty much going too happen at somepoint.
Carley? CARLEY? I choosed Doug!
People who are saying that if kenny didn't kill Larry then Carley wouldn't die
Don't u think Larry would've killed Carley himself wanna know what u guys think about this
Honestly I see more people hate on Clementine than Kenny or Lilly combined?
Alright I guess I see where your coming from but it still doesn't give him the right to kick Duck out without him checking for bites himself. It's like don't judge a book by it's cover except in a more serious way.
No it really doesn't, and I can't justify that, and wouldn't want to, i'll just put it down to desperate people make desperate choices, same as with Kenny crushing his head, another thing to mention about Larry that is overlooked, if you don't side with anyone in the duck scene, Katjaa will find no bite and Kenny will say 'You hear that? no bite, now what do you say?' and he replies 'I'm fucking sorry.'
He was still a dick about putting the word fucking before sorry.
Well okay lol, I don't really see it though, I think he was just trying to let off steam and calm down to end the tension.
Man, psycho is such a ugly word...
Anger, Depression, Grief, Stress, all of these things can make a non-psychotic person do these things, she is not crazy, she just couldn't control herself and snapped, mentally healthy people do it every day.
People hate on Clementine? Well, I know they do, but more so than Lilly or Kenny? I haven't seen that being the case, unless you're talking about the one "sexist" troll, or the one "Clementine should die" troll. I've learned to ignore those guys.
No, if he did refuse the bandits they'd have just kept attacking and eventually broke into the inn, and you know where that leads? no chance for resistence and everyone gets shot and killed on sight.
Not to mention they had caught Ben already, so thats someone already dead.
No, if he did refuse the bandits they'd have just kept attacking and eventually broke into the inn, and you know where that leads? no chance for resistence and everyone gets shot and killed on sight.
Not to mention they had caught Ben already, so thats someone already dead.
Not to mention the group was already running low on food/ammo/guns, with the bandits pinning them down theres really no hope, and they were until Ben struck the deal.
I sympathise with him too, I rather liked him and tbh I think he should've lived to the end with Christa too, as opposed to Clem/Christa/Omid, it would've made for a more shocking season 2, when Christa ends up dead and Bens still alive, LOL!
Justify it all you want, i'm not judging.
I guess we all have our opinions.
I have learned that there are many trolls. But honestly I have learned not to mess with kenny fans or they will bite ya in the ass.
He was sort of preoccupied with removing the ravenous living corpse from the front wheels of their only means of escape.He had no time think about this petty nonsensical arguing going on, and for as much as he disliked Lilly, he wasn't expecting her to pop somebody.
I would like to declare shenanigans in this topic.
Well, if you think about it, so did Lilly. Like she said, stealing your supplies is like slipping into your room and cutting your throat at night-- you die. Well, she made a quick assumption, but so did Kenny. Kenny didn't even give Larry a chance he just smashed his face. Lilly jumped to conclusions also, and shot Carley. But if she did steal the supplies, she had a reason to do it, just like Kenny.
Some of them will, absolutely. Same as how a lot of Lilly Fans will do the exact same. Can't judge a whole group by a few extreme examples.
Uh-huh, take care!
It wasn't Ben's fault. It was Lee's fault for removing their last delivery.
"This place is done. It's time to move on."
It's called paranoia when you get agitated and start making rash and illogical decisions, and start accusing people without evidence. All the bag proved was that someone was giving the bandits supplies. IT DID NOT tell her who, or why. Lilly was paranoid. She started accusing, threatening, and insulting Carley or Ben without good evidence, tries to pressure Ben into telling her it was Carley. (Which makes absolutely no fucking sense-how would Ben know that Carley had done it if he wasn't in on it? In which case, what does shooting either of them without questioning them first solve in the present moment?)
There was no pressing reason to work out who did it at that exact moment. Then she intentionally shoots Carley in cold blood, or tries to kill a kid, but instead kills Doug due to Doug's selfless heroism.
At the RV scene, She was clearly paranoid. She was afflicted with Paranoia. It's an actual mental illness. If you don't like the word or what it implies, that's unfortunate, because it's a perfect describer of her worn down mental state in that moment.
He ensured that her likely to die anyway father died, in order to directly ensure the immediate survival of the entire group. I don't see how he personally betrayed her trust. Also, you have to trust someone to be betrayed. Lilly never trusted Kenny.
By the way, if you are having a heart attack, and you are weak and without medicine like Larry, you are likely to die because of CPR's strain on your body. Larry was 90% certain to be a dead man, and when he died it was a 90% possibility that a walker Larry could overpower the three of them easily, leading to everyone's deaths, including two children.
Try to kill a gigantic, terrifyingly strong walker with just a brick.
I like the part where you throw out baseless assumptions then demand that everyone prove you wrong without you proving your self right.
Then insult everyone who has decided to disagree with your unfounded idea by calling them cute.
I think you should improve yourself and the way you communicate with others by
A: providing at least a tiny amount of evidence to support your claim in the initial sentence to serve as a conversation starter, (EG 'Lilly's paranoia was exacerbated by Kenny's actions...BECAUSE he argued with her alot' (not that I believe that is a strong argument).
AND B: When people disagree with you, instead of insulting them, if they haven't provided evidence that counters or overshadows your evidence, then ask them why they disagree with you.
Keep in mind you didn't provide evidence to your initial statement, then insulted people for not providing evidence against it. This is what I am referring to. Also, I fucking hate it when people insult others merely for disagreeing.
Wait does a month and 10 days count as necromancy?
...Shiiiet.
My bad guys.