TWD2 Semi spoiler: Opening that back entrance may come back to bite us.
Or someone else, literally.
My point is they make no mention of Clementine or anyone else nailing back up the back entrance to the house or resealing the entrance. My guess is that at some point a walker or bandit might sneak in through that way.
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Nah, I'm sure it will be fine.
A walker would be too dumb to do that, it would just go for the house; A person getting in can hardly be blamed on Clem, she got in easily enough and shes a little kid.
Well if they don't go checking to see how Clem got in they are pretty dumb. I'd like to know how an 11 year old girl breached my fortress if I lived there.
Somet5hing like that would be good to know, and I couldn't sleep knowing someone like Nate could climb in...
They blamed her for escaping and saving herself with their supplies when they locked her in a shed to die, I'm sure CARLOS and Rebecca would be more than happy to blame it on Clem. Everyone else, not so much.
EDIT: sorry, I meant Carlos not Alvin I changed it to reflect this.
Also, walkers take the quickest rout they can see in the moment, if it heard noise or saw light in the house and happened to be next to the hole, and it couldn't see the door (you can only see the door from the front) it would go through the hole as a part of the Walkers crude common sense would make it head through the hole as the quickest path to the noise (since it can't see any other entrances).
But then it might just sit there not noticing the trapdoor on the other end of the attic and headbutt the floorboards trying to get in, get heard by everyone, and get a machete to the head. Walkers are smart like that.
My point is it's a possibility, there are plenty of ways it could go wrong for the walker though.
Good point, but this group so far hasn't demonstrated an overabundance of foresight what with the locking Clem in the wet damp shed with an open arm wound with the plan to assume she is walker bitten if she has a fever by the end of the rainy night. Because as a doctor he should really know or care about how fast normal arm wounds get infected mundanely.
Also by the looks of things they are running from someone, but still camping near his territory instead of staying on the move until they are far enough away, simply because they found a cushy cabin where they could set up river fishing traps.
Also, Pete and Nick don't take melee weapons with them even though they are low on ammo, they also don't think that 'Maybe' in a field of dozens of people felled by gunshots that some of them may be sleeping/stunned walkers. They also don't take care to avoid stepping near bodies which may be walkers (how Pete gets bit). Pete doesn't think to take the spear he picks up with him.
Overall the group is bad at prior preparation (no melee weapons while at the same time out of ammo), bad at in the moment survival decisionmaking (Pete stepping near potential walker heads, not keeping the spear, separating himself from the group when they are in hostile territory) as well as being bad at opportunistic scavenging (as far as we know they didn't get anything useful from the bodies, Pete didn't grab that sturdy and useful looking spear). This implies that they are not particularly bright in the areas of ensuring their own survival.
TL:DR the Cabin group makes tons of mistakes, all the time. It wouldn't surprise me if they assumed that Clem got in through a door or window, and never thought to ask. It is also possible (though unlikely) they never knew about the trapdoor, and the board was there when they arrived.
Also that place was hardly a fortress. Multiple unfortified access points, made of flammable wood, easily visible in it's clearing, easily visible and accessible covert passage into the heart of the building, non fortified main access point (door) which could be breached by a determined attacker.
It's a place of residence, not a fortress.
Sort of amazing that group has survived as long as it has, given their total lack of common sense in how to survive. It would be understandable if the zombie apocalypse had just started, but it's been at least 2 years since it started, if not longer (16 months for the time skip, and 4 months in the inn) + another few miscellaneous weeks + however many months it was between Season 1's end and Season 2's beginning - since Krista is noticeably pregnant by the beginning of Season 2, while not showing at all except for morning sickness at the end of Season 1)
Well I don't know if it will really matter,it doesn't look like they'll be there too long anyway,in the next episode they seem to be heading for the mountains pretty early on.
Well lets put it this way, apparently not too long ago, recent enough for Nick to be nearly killing wounded hostages over it, Nick's mum got killed because she tried to cure a bite victim.
Lee's group, who survived only a few months even though they had good leadership (both technical-Lilly, and Inspirational-Kenny), planning (both short and long term), and having some very present of mind people, as well as Lee and Clementine's wit which had gotten them out of many bad situations. Meanwhile it seems the Cabin group has survived of sheer good fortune. I don't think this is unrealistic, it makes sense that a few people would be bad at surviving, but be lucky enough to survive for two years before they are all killed around Clementine. Jokes aside, at the rate of the Cabin groups performing, everyone from episode 1 of season 2 will be dead besides Clementine and whoever she picks up (Kenny, Eddie, Lilly, etc) because they can actually think smartly across all areas.
Wait wait here's something I don't buy. How come Carlos, as a doctor hasn't diagnosed Nick with some kind of anxiety disorder that he clearly has, and try to talk him through it or get some medicine for it before Nick kills someone? He is a doctor, GP's have the skill's to diagnose and give preliminary treatments/recommendations for most kinds of illnesses including anxiety.
Well it's obvious by now that Carlos isn't a full doctor. I'm starting a thread either today or tomorrow, on Carlos's legitimacy as a doctor (as in I think he is lying), I'd appreciate your input.
Alvin? What? Alvin doesn't share Rebecca's opinion of Clem.
Alvin ?
Are you serious?
First, why do you respond to yourself? It's weird!
Second, I'd like to think they would be curious how she got it and Clem would tell them.
They've still shown an amazing lack of common sense regardless, given that the game takes place at least 2 years after the outbreak started.
And anxiety isnt exactly going to be something that 'sticks out' in one particular person in a zombie apocalypse. Pretty sure EVERYONE has anxiety in a zombie apocalypse.
You know.... because it's the ZOMBIE APOCALYPSE. Carlos might very well be a doctor. Probably is a doctor. I'm assuming he's not a psychiatrist though. And I'm pretty sure during the ZOMBIE APOCALYPSE.... the last thing anyone cares about is treating anxiety disorders... rather than stuff like broken bones, infection, doing basic first aid, amputations, delivery of children, etc.
Nick doesnt have an anxiety disorder. He has a ITS THE ZOMBIE APOCALYPSE disorder. Which I think in the Walking Dead is quite infectuous among survivors in general
Because when I triple post like a stooge I might as well not flood a single persons inbox with messages leading them to the one reply. I'll try to reply to other people more often so it makes a bit more sense, and maybe not triple post like a scrub lord and fill up forum space.
Shit I meant Carlos. I edited it, nice catch, thanks for pointing that out.
No-one else is paralyzed by it or driven to acts of temporary instanity by it like Nick is. That is what is called an anxiety disorder.
Carlos is pragmatically focused on his own and his daughters survival, and Rebecca is just a horrible human being.
Only Nick's negative actions are driven by sheer terror.
Nick is actually an okay guy when he isn't gripped by terror and when people give him a chance, as can be seen when Luke tries to get Nick and Clem to make peace. I guess a tiny bit like season 1 Kenny in one personality factor, (I am team Kenny btw), Nick doesn't respond well to criticism and gets mad at people who disagree with him (Pete) but is very friendly and and possibly (ep2 will probably determine this right or wrong) loyal to people who support him.
Mind you Kenny WAS actually always right. So that's the key difference right there. (#Unbiased)
If you want to add more to the post before anyone has responded to it I suggest editing it. That's just me though. Not trying to be snobby about it, hope it doesn't sound that way!
Pete says don't be too close in case any are walkers. I suppose he was overconfident after they all seemed safe to stand next to
Maybe a zombie herd is coming causing them to leave. If anything they can use it to escape if they house becomes surrounded while all the zombies are up on the porch.
Hell when you put it like that I'm amazed any of them have made it this far. You'd think after 2 years in that thinks like you mentioned would be second nature...
lol yeah I meant retorically
I'm still surprised Carlos didn't want to choke Clem to death after she dropped that whole bottle of peroxide, what with how zealous he was over his supplies.
I was like... Clem... "you dun' goofed" when she dropped it. But then no one cared. Oversight by telltale or did the cabin members just not care?
Either way... I guess that's good...?
You can hardly blame her. It's not like Clem has medical experience unlike a certain-can't-tell a-human-from-a-dog-bite-doctor.
She couldn't have known how to use it properly, and you can't blame her for dropping the bottle when in intense pain.
I challenge you to pour peroxide directly into an already painful open arm wound and not drop the bottle.
EDIT: also, wanting to Choke a child to death over accidentally spilling some medicine due to being in intense pain? Man. That's a bit of an extreme thought. I know Carlos isn't a good person, but I don't think he's THAT bad.
They cared about the supplies, Telltale just didn't spell it out exactly what part of the supplies they cared about. "Hey! She stole from us!" -Nick, also similar reactions from everyone not Pete, Luke or Alvin.
Derp, I was just exaggerating for comedic effect with the choking part!
I'M not blaming Clementine for dropping the bottle, but I'm surprised Carlos or Rebecca didn't give her a hard time over it. Come on. You know how they are.
I'm just saying, for someone who was so against wasting a tiny bit of his suppiles to treat her bite wound to the point of leaving her to die in the shed, he sure was calm when she accidentaly ended up wasting all of it. It didn't make sense to me, but whatever.
Yeah, there's kinda no point keeping the cabin secured any longer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhckuhUxcgA
Actually tha twould be a problem with intruder if they weren't going to leave the house in the enxt episode. (aparrently)... Since they are they don't have to worry about the house, but yes that is a good point, if Clem could got in than any other person who searches for an alternative entrance would find that hole (it was pretty obvious)
This sounds more like issues with the writing (and how much you're willing to suspend disbelief). I'm pretty sure there is a lot of stuff we could nitpick regarding the season 1 group's lack of foresight. Or maybe I'm in the minority in thinking standing guard on top of the RV was dumb. Alternatively, it may be that the cabin group was more used to being on the offensive when Carver was around and have yet to properly master being on the defensive.
If that entrance in the cabin is used for anything else I'd hope it's as a means of escape should the house come under siege and they can't escape through the front or side doors. Or just to gain a tactical advantage.
Lol, sorry about that, Good point.
Yeah you would think he would be all like YOU WASTED THE WHOLE BOTTLE! But I guess Luke and Pete might have been pissed at them if they gave Clem a harder time than they already had.
I do hope they bring it up in the future though. EG Someone else gets injured, they have no peroxide left, Carlos and Rebecca start harassing Clem, Luke and Nick (determinant) tell them to back off, group argument starts. [I'm almost certain that Pete dies and Nick lives either way BTW.] I do love the group arguments in Telltale games. They are so tense and awesome, and they really force you to rapidly make multiple decisions on who to back, who you think is right, etc.