Does anyone really want monthly release over full game?
I love walking dead played when came ps vita played full game loved the story and was happy with my purchase.
First time this season I bought game with episodes and dont feel makes story any better or make people enjoy story more or even increase profit
Buying episodes monthly doesnt get me more excited just frustrates me and added on to this constant delays then next chapters have more delays and end up forgetting the story
Internet and friends all play the games so even when wait for full release whole story will already be spoiled
Also chapters wait month for hour and half chapter rather just wait for full release
Im big fan just hope telltale releases full games anyone agree
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No, but you take what you are given.
I quite like the episodic thing, its a big reason why this community grows so quick. I like discussing things between episodes. Thats just me though
Good point not saying its wrong just opinion
Sort of. I think what would be best is if telltale finishes the game first, then slowly releases an episode every two weeks. That way we still get to discuss everything but there won't be any of these awful delays
. If I had to choose I would pick full release though, then I wouldn't waste so much time on here lol 
It depends, ttg just doesn't have 1000's of developers to make full games fast enough and by the time they get all 5 episodes done to make the full game to release they would be using an outdated engine possibly anyways, I didn't really check what engine TTG is using, if they are using their own engine then theirs would just be compared against other companies developers. For those that play Bioshock series you would know why Bioshock inf got delayed so much (by the time they got their game originally done they had to revamp it as the engine they were using was outdated and their game could of been so much better, so they spent more time upgrading the game to make it the best it could be before they released it. Which TTG could possibly do as well.) Now the good thing about ttg releasing their games in episodes is that we can see the improvements per episode and they wouldn't need to totally remake the game if they do upgrade their engine. As long as a major change isn't made the changes they make in newer episodes wouldn't make it incompatible with other episodes, but they could always do bug fixes and update older episodes much faster than remastering all of them.
What could also happen is it takes too long for a release and they lose the fanbase they already have because people will get tired of waiting for a year or longer for the games to be released to the public. I personally program in C++ and made a few simple games but nothing like what ttg does and it is a lot of work to make good appealing games and what they have going for them now is good for a small development team as you all hate waiting right? Would you really want to wait 1-2 years for a full release or be able to play per episode and have chats about the games? I would prefer being able to play the games by episodes and maybe our opinions on what we like/didn't like and what we want to happen would be taken into consideration and we can help ttg by giving out opinions so that they can make the games more desirable (Although it is impossible to please everyone so they will just do their best.)
I've always been quite fond of episodic release as long as it's not a ridiculous wait. People complain about episode 2 not being out but I remember waiting this long for season 1 episode 2.
3 and 4 month waits are another thing. I'm fine with 1 or two month waits, but after 4 months though, I'm a busy guy, I have to replay to remember what happened.
Except how short S2E1 was, I've never had a problem with episodics, although I would've probably got the Wolf Among Us by now if it wasn't for that huge wait.
Nice great answer
Agree
Thanks. I just put my two cents in. I can sympathize with TTG as it is a lot of work to make good games and it is a huge competition and they have to always upgrade their engines to keep up with other companies which isn't that easy to do especially if they made their own engine as they have to program it themselves which takes a lot of time and skill to do. I use UDK to make games and Unity 3D but I am just horrible at 3D gfx and story making xD. I am just a programmer and it takes way too long to make games with very few developers but it is a lot easier for the big companies to do as they can hire 1000's of developers to all work on it at once.
Everyone saying its make games better quality but with how short s1 ep1 was and delays i think is that taking on to many projects at once get WAU finished and TWD before concentrating on sorting out games of thrones or borderlands probably wrong
that is true but they have a lot of great ideas and us programmers/developers tend to get carried away and take on too many projects at once as we want to do all the projects we take on. But I do think that ttg should hire some more skilled developers so that they can push out these wonderful games a bit faster, but I can see it from their side as well. It is often hard for smaller companies to get skilled developers to join them and they tend to get a lot of applicants that don't have the skills they claim to have (At least I had to deal with those type of people before.)
I think that's the best summary so far.
One side point though on forgetting the story. I would argue that some episodes fair better than others, based on how interesting it was as a standalone story. For me TWD episodes have always been memorable enough to stand up to the wait.
true thanks for answering but will marketing not affect the choice as in picking a particular time GTA V was delayed couple months just to release on perfect time for game sales but also have rushed effect as in battlefield being release early to beat COD leaving a bugged full game
They need to complete it and release every 2 weeks. By the time the next ep comes, I've already played at least 10 games and forgot some of the important small things, and when it comes out I start to freak out and try to remember everything. Could you imagine if the tv show coming out every 3-4 months?
I really find it hard to believe some of you prefer the wait in between, because if you're like me, and I know you are, you complete it all the way thru as soon as get it.
Actually they don't need to do shit.
Yeah that is how competitions between developers get at times, they all try releasing their games faster then the competition and that tends to make the games suffer but bug fixes can always be applied.. but yeah it is better to take your time when developing games and get them perfect rather then releasing a crappy one and getting your fans pissed. But the companies that made the games you said all have tons of developers. They have at least 10x or more than TTG has.
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I forgot to say your welcome so I will say it now: Your welcome and thank you for taking the time to reply to my message.
You kid have just made me LMFAO.. "They need to complete it and release every 2 weeks." Yeah you don't know anything about making games do you? No offense intended but it isn't so simple to make a game every 2 weeks even crappy games take a lot of coding to make and a lot of classes for controlling animations of the characters etc. I assume that ttg reuses their classes from previous games and just upgrade them and improve them and add onto them as most people do that anyways as there isn't much point in re-coding everything from scratch. If you can reuse it then it is best to do so as it makes less work to do.. I kinda got off track but what I am trying to say is it takes a lot of time and effort into making games, ttg is a small company so they just don't have the money to hire 1000s of developers like the huge companies do so I think we should consider ourselves lucky we get such high quality games cheaper than those 1-hit wonder games that we all beat the very first day and talk about for a week or so afterwards and then never touch again.. At least with TTG their games are replayable and are unique and enjoyable. I understand how hard it is to make a game so I am willing to just chill and wait for it to be released. I beat all games the first day I get them and grow bored of them, at least with TTG it kept me interested and had good replay value.
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I like the whole episodic thing better. With each episode TT can make decisions based on the community and it could change the impact on the next episode which is a huge win for me because they can actually see how we feel about certain things and even the smallest changes to the story can make it better. However, a full release would just keep the original view of their story without seeing how the community feels about this person or that episode. That's just what I think :P
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You 'kid' make me laugh to. I don't know how old you are, but looking at the way you type, your expressions and language I would bet I am alot older than you.
I have used computers ever since the ZX80-81, Apple, Atari 400 and BBC Micro were first available. That was proper encoding, which took hours, even days to get the simplest games to run. Just to lose everything when the extra memory cartridge worked its way loose and the computer crashes. Remember, there was no backup as such. No hard drives, no disc drives only old fashioned cassette tapes which were about as reliable as Windows 98.
I was writing and selling games for a popular company. And when the likes of the Commodore 64, Spectrum 48k and Atari 800XL came around, I couldn't design, write and get games out fast enough. It was easier though, as at least then the disc drive became affordable.
So I do know a little about writing games.
In my experience, customers will wait as long as you keep them updated. This is something that is totally alien to telltale though and it can only end badly.
I have been around long enough to see dozens of gaming company's go under, that did brilliant games but treated their customers terribly. In the end, people deserted them.
If telltale aren't careful, history will repeat itself. Yes they may have a game which right now people are crying out for and want really badly. But it won't last forever and people won't wait forever.
No.
I am 21 and I teach people that are twice my age or older how to code. I code mainly in C/C++ but I dabbled in just about every programming language and they are all way too similar, you learn how to code properly and you can easily pick up other languages. I know I am not old but age has nothing to do with skill. I commented on that guys post because he was acting like 99% of kids I deal with all the time, shit gets done when it gets done. You cannot rush perfection but I do agree with you as TTG needs to at least have some people for support for keeping people up to date and helping them out and advertising so they get their name known as a lot of people I know don't even know even know TTG exists.
I can sympathize with them though as I have a small development team of 20 programmers and we all do freelance work and odd jobs and stuff we like to do and it is hard to get a proper game company going and getting motivated staff especially since they aren't that big of a game company but they do great work but they do tend take on more than they can handle. They have too many projects going on at once which is slowing them down and causing delays and getting all these butt-hurt people complaining and whining all the time about the delays, I honestly rather have a delay than have a buggy game as honestly you are making it seem like you know a lot about the business so what is better for sales? Making delays to get the game just right or releasing a buggy game that is nowhere near finished just to keep on schedule?
A lot if not all development companies do the same thing TTG is doing except the only difference is the bigger ones have the money to make a lot of teaser videos that get their game known and keeping their customers interested and providing updates and information on what is going on which they can do since they have the money to do so. TTG could post progress updates on the forum/blog just letting us know about why the delays are happening. For example: "We are going to have a 3-4 week delay because we need to do some last minute debugging as we just found a memory leak in our game and need to fix that up." or something along those lines. But like I said I can sympathize with them as they are obviously busy with all their projects and trying to get everything done as fast as they possibly can and they just don't have the money to hire people to just give progress updates and everything that the larger companies do have and they are most likely wanting people with actual skill to join (and the ones with all the pretty degrees get snatched up by the bigger companies.. not all of them but quite a few of them do. I have buddies that work for Nintendo, MS, Sony and all of them have degrees and that is the only way they got their jobs but they all started out modding the companies work which landed them jobs.) only as I checked out their job forms and I know I have the programming skills but there is no way I have those degrees but I am working on getting them now since it is very hard to find a job without those degrees but it takes a lot of time and money to get them.
I agree with what you said because what they are doing will certainly piss off their customers but everything costs money which if you didn't know there are quite a few people just using pirated copies of the game. Example: TWAU Episode 2 got uploaded on all the private torrent websites nearly instantly after it was released and you can bet those leechers aren't going to pay for the game. I will admit I know ASM and have cracked my share of games but mainly for educational purposes as I am not like those leechers that rather get the games illegally rather than pay the minor fee to obtain a legit copy of the game. I support the creators of the games by purchasing their games and those that don't do that are the main reason as why game companies go under especially since TTG is releasing on PS3, XBOX 360 + PC.. Hell every platform they are releasing on you can easily crack their software and get for free and that makes it very hard for developers to earn a living off their games as there are too many thieves then there are legitimate customers. What really makes all the smaller companies go under is the people pirating their games but when the company does what you said then yeah that makes their legitimate customers that are actually paying for the games mad which is never good.
Sorry I don't write all neat as I am used to talking over instant messengers and sending text messages it makes it hard to get out of the habit and I tend to blather on and on and getting off topic. Anyway I am neutral and can see why both sides say what they say but I had to say my two cents on the topic if you don't like it then that is fine. I am not here to please everyone and I honestly don't care about the trolls that go around disliking all the comments like really do you have nothing better to do than hitting that dislike button?
I'd only like the episodic method if they actually kept to their schedule. Or at least giving a more accurate schedule.
If they said 'every 3 months' - then at least they'd never be later than they claim, and might even occasionally come out with the episode earlier and look like they're rushing to get stuff out ahead of schedule. When they say 'every 6-8 weeks then it's longer, it makes them look like they don't care about their customer base.
Otherwise, I'd prefer them just coming out with all 5 episodes at once.
Unless you have a staff the size of EA you'd be a goddamn miracle worker to get a working Alpha in 2 weeks. Fuck coding Can you imagine just having to factor in all the variables even for different character outcomes just from 400 Days in two weeks? I remeber reading there are like 16 different combinations of people you could have in Tavias or the camp group.
For games of this quality Tell Tale are miracle workers but you can only do so much unless you have big studio resources to throw at it.
I like the fact that Telltale take in feedback after each episode so that if they get something wrong, they have time to fix it. If you look at the TV Show, everything after Season 1 is a perfect example of the creators not paying attention to criticism. The quality of the show just dropped because they only listened to the positive feedback.
Is a long wait good? No.
Is it better than the alternative? Yes, without a doubt.
Love the idea of episodic releases, but I feel the wait in between episodes is too long. I played through season 1 in a couple of sittings over the course of three days, and I will always remember it as one of the best experiences in gaming that I've ever had. I was so hyped for season 2, and after playing the first episode and waiting this long, my excitement is withering. Just my two cents.
I would like MOHNTLY release, but still...
I would be fine with monthly releases, if they were really monthly. Alas, that's not the case, so no, I am not fine with the way things are right now.
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I played Season 1, when it was released on CD. Never played it before.
Sure, I loved it. It was THE Best Game I ever played storywise, period!
But after each episode, with every "Next on The Walking Dead" I thought "Alrighty then, lets play the next one".
Now, with TWAU and TWD S2 it is something entirely different. I am part of the Community of people anxiously waiting for the next episode.
In my opinion the suspense created by waiting for the next episode, waiting for the story to continue is one of the main aspects as to why Season One won over 90 GOTY Awards!
Playing it in One Sitting of approx. 10hours is... Great.
Waiting, a year before having the story told is... Unbelievable!
Don't like waiting 2-3 months in-between episodes or always forgetting the story? Wait to play it.
Don't mind waiting, or don't mind replaying the episodes to refresh your memory? Play them as they are released.
This method gets you both ways, it is in all ways superior to having only the option of waiting a year for all 5 episodes. Not to mention this method lets TTG see what the community thought of an episode, and change story elements in the future episodes before it's too late. I do not feel S1 would of been as good as it was without community feedback as the episodes were being made.
I like the idea of it but when you have to wait more than 6 weeks it gets annoying, especially when it doesn't let you download it when the time finally comes.
Plus with them being episodic I think the episodes should be a 2 hours at least for each one.
Yeah I agree 100% it takes way too much time to make a game and even longer to make a good one. I made plenty of shit games for fun and testing my skills but there is no way in hell you could do it within 2 weeks. Maybe 2 months but even then it isn't that easy. Unless you have a team of skilled GFX artists, Programmers, Script Writers, Voice Actors that never sleep and work 24/7 and have no lives then it isn't possible to make a decent game within the timeframe TTG said they would release their games unless like you just said you have to have a staff the size of EA.
Maybe if the 'monthly' thing was actually reliable.
If a game is complete, why would it be hard to release the eps. every two weeks? Listen next time dummy. I didn't say anything about making anything in two weeks. I can tell ur one of those people who looks for ways to tell others that he's smart and the rest of us our idiots. It's cool, I was young once too. Hopefully you'll grow out of it. But then again, you could be right. I mean you teach people twice ur age, what do I know.
Lol back up since made this thread my opinion has changed i like episodes as think separates the game from others very unique and i enjoy the banter from the community leading up to each episode and general discussion and prediction adds to the excitement for me think though happy episode games is exclusive to telltale games and not others still feel that's what makes them special oh and love being teased
Listen? How do I listen to text? I think you mean READ and that makes even less sense as fans would have to wait years before the games are finished and my point was made the time they finish it their engine would most likely be outdated (Especially if they are using Unity 3D or one of the other public engines that get updated quite often.) and we would be seeing the same sh*t that happened to Bioshock infinite and many other games that took too long to finish and then had to be updated and improved before they were released to be the best they could be. So next time before questioning others intelligence you may want to use your brain as what your saying would cause us to have to wait way longer than we already have to wait and just isn't a very good idea anyways. I made it quite clear on why ttg does what they do and you need to grow up and stop being so immature. I admit I didn't notice the complete the game part but if you read my comments I explained why that wouldn't ever happen anyways, and your the one calling others "dummy" like a little kid. I mean seriously what kind of insult is that? Your just making yourself look like an unintelligent little kid that got butthurt because someone else's opinions come from real life experience and yours comes from not knowing a thing about game development, game engines, programming in general etc. etc. If you knew even a little bit about making games you wouldn't be making the comments your making, Now peace I am not going to argue with an immature little kid that likes calling others "dummy".
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and yeah I know I type a lot but I made my point quite clear.
Well said, sir