"I Thought You Were Dead" Predictions
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These are MY predictions on who the mystery "I thought you were dead" person is. There are many theories out there, and I want to share my own. Feel free to post your theories/predictions and what YOU think on this thread.
This post contains SPOILERS. If you haven't played TellTale's Walking Dead Season 1 or Season 2 Episode 1 and you plan to, please do not continue to read. (Also spoilers of comics, issues 98-100).
The people most people think the mystery person is:
Kenny |
Lilly |
Christa |
Lee |
Molly |
Glenn |
Stranger's son |
I'll go through my ideas on each person and discuss why I think that person can/cannot be the mystery person. I'll put what number they are on the list of the 7 people on how likely they will be the mystery person. 1 being the most likely, 7 being the least likely. I also want to state that knowing TellTale, the scenes in the trailer don't actually happen in the game in the same way. Knowing this, that means that Clementine's approach to the mystery person could have been different. For example, she's shocked/scared in the trailer (to make the whole scenario seem better), but she can be happy or sad in the game.
Kenny: Kenny is by far the most suggested person. I can see why. Kenny is loved by pretty much everyone. Now, we never actually see Kenny die. We don't hear him getting eaten or make any sounds of pain in both of his "deaths." On the TellTale's Walking Dead wiki, if you go to "characters" and click on "Kenny" and scroll all the way to the bottom, the sentence "Kenny's fate will be explored in season 2" can be seen. This can mean many things. This can mean that Kenny can be back as a walker or he can still be fine. He may even be part of an evil group and end up being the antagonist. I doubt that we'll see him as a walker because season 2 takes place in North Carolina, while the Kenny incident took place in Savannah, Georgia. I don't think walker Kenny could have made it ALL the way to North Carolina without something happening to him. And the result of finding him as a walker is just very low. Now, I can honestly see him being an antagonist. Ever since his family died he hasn't been the same Kenny we knew through episodes 1-3.5. He's been in a depression ever since and got angry a lot easier. I can see him being the antagonist, but I don't think it's likely enough. TellTale knows we all love Kenny. I mean in the "All That Remains" trailer, they showed the back of Nick's head to mess with us and make it think it was Kenny. Why else would they do that? Maybe they are preparing us for his arrival. Or TellTale's mind can be on the different side. They know we want Kenny back, and for that reason, they won't make the mystery person be Kenny because they're TellTale. Another thing is that Clementine doesn't know what happened to Kenny. She wasn't there when the whole thing happened. And we don't see Lee tell her about it in the game. But when Clementine finds Omid and Christa for the first time after Lee's death, I'm sure she would have asked about Kenny (and Ben if you didn't drop him). Omid and Christa don't exactly know Kenny much, and I don't think they would be in denial about Kenny, and they could have easily told Clementine that Kenny died. All in all, I think the chance of Kenny being the mystery person is likely. 2/7
Lilly: I think the mystery person will be Lilly. It makes the most sense to me. Well let's see. We don't see her die, heck she doesn't even die in the main story. She could have been left on the side of the road or she could have stole the RV. If she stole the RV, the chances of her surviving is a lot higher than her being left on the side of the road. Knowing Lilly, she's a woman who can get angry very easily, and I just think that Lilly could have survived on her own when you think about it. I know I said at the beginning that the approach COULD have been different, but if the approach in the trailer is the one that will be in the game, it would make the most sense to be Lilly. Clementine knows that Lilly shot Doug/Carley, and that made Clementine consider her a bad person. She doesn't say it, but we can easily assume it. And with Clementine still being at a young age when the incident happened, I think Clementine could have thought Lilly died. Clementine could have easily seen her as dead either way, ESPECIALLY if you left her on the side of the road. We also haven't seen Lilly in a long time. I mean we've been without Kenny for only 1 episode, and we've been without Lilly for 3 and a half episodes. It just seems like something TellTale would do. Take something that's been gone for a while and bring it back. I also want to point out the the Lilly in the comics and the Lilly in the game are different. It was already confirmed by TellTale. Anyways, my money is on Lilly. If you disagree, you can post who you think has the highest chance of being the mystery person. 1/7
Christa: I think Christa is up on the list. But not way too high. There's just too many reasons for why Christa can't be the mystery person to make her on the top of the list. Not even above Kenny. Let's start with why she CAN be the mystery person. Well, we don't see her die, obviously. And we haven't seen her the the entire episode, except for the beginning. But again, we were without Christa for not even a whole episode yet. But as Clementine is running away from the attacker a gunshot can be heard. That gunshot may make Clementine think Christa has died, but there's something to prove that wrong that I'll explain later. Here are the many reasons why I think the mystery person WON'T be Christa. First of all, I think it's too anti-climactic. It would be too "boring" if it was Christa. It wouldn't be anything new or a surprise. Second of all, Clementine considers Christa as "lost," not "dead." This is what proves the gunshot theory wrong. I think the gunshot may have penetrated her leg because if you choose to sneak away, Christa yells "Clementine RUN!" One of the people stab her in the leg, and knowing TellTale, that means that Christa was meant to be damaged in the leg, which is why she could have been shot in the leg. Clementine even says multiple times in the game that she wants to LOOK for her friend Christa, and she doesn't say anything about Christa being dead at all. Well, that wasn't MANY reasons, but these are good reasons why Christa won't be the mystery person. But I wouldn't be shocked if she WAS the mystery person. 3/7
Lee: Guys, no. I'm sorry, but the mystery person is NOT Lee. What you're about to read aren't my thoughts and ideas. I'm getting these from other people's theories. They say that if you have Clementine shoot Lee, she flinches to the right as she shoots, causing her to miss. I CAN see the flinch, and maybe yeah she missed him, but even if that was the case, he would have died from the infection. But then people say people came and cured him. I don't think so...I mean if that was the case I feel like a LOT more people would be alive. First of all, I don't think you can cure walkers, so this means that if you left Lee or if Clementine missed the shot, that means he would have became a walker. But then people are saying that people came BEFORE he became a walker and fixed him. But when people die they become walkers within like 5 minutes, maybe even less. So that means that people had to come as SOON as Clementine left. And then if Lee was to be fine I think Lee would have quickly went back to find Clementine. I mean I don't think Clementine would have went far in 5 minutes or less, meaning that Lee should have found her right away and they would be reunited again. The only way I can see Lee coming back is if Clementine finds an antidote for something and revives Lee from the infection or something. BUT, there's something else that have people thinking that the mystery person is Lee. Dave Fennoy (voice actor of Lee) posted a picture on his instagram account of him doing some voice acting, and the description read "Working on a super secret script that even my fellow employers can see!" This has people thinking that the mystery person can be Lee. However, I think Lee WILL make an appearance in season 2, but probably as Clementine dreaming or something. But anyways, I think Lee is dead unfortunately and is definitely NOT the mystery person. But I don't think he's the least likely. 6/7
Molly: I don't think the mystery person is Molly either. One big reason: Clementine would NOT think she's dead. Molly didn't die or anything, she just simply left the group. We all know Molly, she would probably survive the entire apocalypse and her death would probably be because of old age. Another reason why I think it's not Molly is because when Clementine met up with the mystery person, there was a group, meaning that the mystery person is in a group. Well, knowing that, Molly stated that before she left that she's better on her own. I don't think Molly would want to be in a group anyway. The only way I can see Molly in a group is if something really bad happened, and if Molly were to be in the group, I'm sure TellTale would be able to think of a good reason why. So I think she's an "eh" person. I think she's more unlikely than likely. When she's against Kenny and Lilly, the chances of the mystery person being Molly is just not high. But I know if the mystery person WAS Molly, I know TellTale would be able to think of a good reason why. 5/7
Glenn: I think Glenn is the least likely contender here. Even lower than Lee. Hear me out. First of all, Clementine doesn't think he's dead. He just drove away. Clementine doesn't even probably remember Glenn, since he was a pretty minor character. But here's the main reason. I think that the Glenn in the game is the same Glenn in the comics. They both resemble each other. They both are the same. If they are the same, Glenn would be dead. In the comics, Glenn's head is smashed by Negan multiple times, and he dies in the comics. Even if there is an antidote, Glenn wouldn't be able to be revived. His head is practically splattered. But even if they aren't the same Glenns, the possibility is still unlikely. Like I said before, Clementine probably doesn't even remember Glenn. If I knew that the Glenns were different, than Glenn would be higher on the list than Lee. At least Lee has even the slightest chance of coming back at all, but as of this list I'm going to count as the Glenns being the same as the comics, so I don't think it's Glenn at all. 7/7
Stranger's Son: Well, this is a different prediction. I've seen people say that the mystery person can be the stranger's son, and I can tell where they're coming from. Let's put it like this. The reason why the stranger took Clementine was because he wanted a kid. And when the whole incident when his son got lost happened, he became a broken man. And remember, the stranger never found his son. He just got lost, and he didn't die. I'm sure the stranger told Clementine everything about his son, what happened to him, and showed her pictures. So knowing this, Clementine knows what the stranger's son looks like, and I don't think he would look TOO different over the course of 2 years. I can also see why Clementine might think that he is dead. But the reason why I don't think it's the stranger's son is because it wouldn't be "good." As much likely as it can be, I don't think any of us want it to be him. Us, the players, barely know anything about his son, and it would be more anti-climactic than if it were Christa. We all want some of season 1 back, and even though the stranger and his son were part of season 1, they were just a small part. I just think most people, including me, would be disappointed if the mystery person were to be the stranger's son. But the despite that, the chances are still pretty decent. 4/7
Well, here's my list in order, again, 1 is the most likely, and 7 is the least likely.
1. Lilly |
2. Kenny |
3. Christa |
4. Stranger's son |
5. Molly |
6. Lee |
7. Glenn |
Well, that took me about 2 hours with some short breaks every now and then. I hope you found these predictions somewhat helpful, If you think I'm totally wrong on any of my theories, feel free to correct me and tell me your predictions. Who do YOU think the mystery person is?
Comments
Stranger's son is a minor character, plus he was like 10, how could a little kid lead a group of bandits? Glenn is with Rick, Lee is dead, and Molly said herself she doesn't like groups.
Although I do think that we haven't seen the last of Kenny ( I hope! ) I agree with you that Lilly is the mystery person. Clem does not seem at all pleased when she sees this mystery person..she never had a problem with Kenny. The fact that she still carries a drawing of him in her backpack..wouldn't she be happy to see him? Lilly however, everybody knew she was a jerk, including Clem. She was there when Lilly murdered Doug/Carly..she knows that this woman is unstable, which would lead to her more contemptuous reaction of "I thought you were dead." She seems to be frowning when she says it. Also, it would make more sense that Lilly would run a violent gang than Kenny. Kenny's last moves were sacrificing himself for his friends. Lily is a scorned woman who's father was killed, and was either left on the side of the road, or stole an RV to escape having to face what she'd done. It would make sense if Kenny appears later in the episodes and he and Lilly have a final showdown.
It's just a trailer, her facial reaction could be changed. Also, we only her face for 2 seconds, she could be shocked for a second, and then happy. Also, Clemmy has no reason to believe Lilly is dead
I agree with most of what you wrote here, But i Find it odd that you didn't even put Victor on the list and he is one of the people who make the most sense
Why not Larry? Surely he can survive with some duct tape
True, but the tone of her voice doesn't just sound like someone in shock.. It sounds kind of negative? Maybe Clementine had just assumed Lily was dead.. Kenny's "death" was never mentioned to her either, at least by Lee in the scenes that we witnessed. Also, looking forward at the stills for future episodes it almost looks like Clem's been captured, or something. That smells more like Lily to me.
Yeah, I mean Its just A Saltlick anyone can survive that !
Lilly makes almost as much sense as Lee when you think about it logically, juts becuase Lee didn't tell her, doesn't mean BrOmid or Christa didn't
If Kenny can survive the alleyway, Larry can survive a salt lick
I agree, I'm a Kenny fan, but I think Lily is the "I thought you were dead" person and that Kenny is going to appear somewhere very dramatic.
How can we be sure that they lead the bandits, or that those people are even bandits? We only saw their faces, and we only saw two of them.
It´s Kenny´s Mustache obviously
How can we be sure they DON'T?
Kenny bear
While yes it could be Lilly she was originally the comic book Lilly until they retcon'd it so I don't think they would want to go anywhere near this character again. There really is no real reason why Clem would think she is dead at all and if it was her I think she'd have a more horrified expression on her face in that preview scene compared to being shocked to see whoever it is.
Right, that's why I said "in the scenes we witnessed." And it's very possible that it's Lily as we never saw her bitten or swarmed, etc. The closest we saw were a few walkers trailing behind her if you left her on the road. Lee? Well, c'mon. Dude is dead. Period.
Clementine doesn't think she is dead
It's the zombie apocalypse. that's a pretty safe reason to assume that she's dead. a lone, unstable woman, left by herself.
I know that If I was Clementine I would think she was a goner.
Do I have to repeat myself?
Both of you have points. While Lilly remains at the top of my list, Kenny is a close second. I agree that Clementine definitely has a reason to consider Lilly dead, but I think that Omid and Christa told her about Kenny as I said in my post. It's just a close match up between Lilly and Kenny. I still think the mystery person is Lilly though.
Lilly in the comic book isn't the Lilly in the game. TellTale confirmed it.
I agree with that too. I think Clementine will probably run into a group of bandits and Kenny will be in that group or something like that.
That's because I haven't seen anyone else suggest Victor. I may add him later.
It's kenny for sure, in the games files it says "kenny202" and "a house divided"
It's be cool if both kenny and lily show up in the same episode
Oh, I forgot about that. I think that the mystery person is Lilly though and Kenny will make an appearance later.
Yeah, but I don't think it would happen knowing TellTale.
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I think it will be our beloved old buddy Kenny.
Also, I don't think Kenny will be an antagonist.
Here's why!
Kenny's spirit is extremely resilient.
Of course he's depressed and angry, after the loss of his family.
Anyone would be!
However, he keeps going on.
And even though Kenny admitedly acts like a jackass for a while, by the end of the game, he does redeem himself.
After Ben falls, Kenny puts his anger aside and tries to save him.
Showing that even though he's understandably pissed off at Ben, who caused the death of his family, he still shows how strong his humanity is, by trying to help him.
Or, if Christa gets trapped in that walker infested building, Kenny rises to the occasion and jumps in to save her, proving that even though he's grieving, he's still willing to put others ahead of himself.
Either way, Kenny shows that he's a good man through and through!
So as far as Kenny being a antagonist, doesn't seem likely.
Possibly a hermit, until running into Clementine.
But not an antagonist!
Now Lilly, on the other hand, I could definitely see as an antagonist.
She was all about survival.
She was not only willing to let innocent people die, ( when Lee, Clementine and Kenny and his family arrived in front of the drugstore in Macon), but also murdered Carly in cold blood, without a hint of remorse.
It was for those reasons I personally left her bitchy ass on the side of the road!
On a side note, even though it's impossible, if it is Lee, I'll be like: "Holy Shit!"
Honestly, I never for once thought Lee could come back, until you mentioned it.
And I still don't!
Lee was fucked the minute he got bit, even after Kenny cut his goddamn arm off, cause at that point is was already to late.
Case and point, Herschel on the tv show!
Lee is gone.
Yeah, I don't think he will be an antagonist either. It's just a common thought of the TWD community, which is why I mentioned it being a possibility in there.
Why would CLementine think that Glenn or Molly are dead?... How the F*ck would Clementine know who the stranger's son is? From my point o view it has to be Kenny, I mean is the only charatcher that she thinks may be dead that may not be... Unless Clementine explain why she thinks Lilly is dead there's no reason for her to think that... Also yes, I see she thinking that Christa may be dead, but her reaction would be of joy and not surprise if the person was her, since she still hopes Christa is alive.
So for me it's Kenny or a miracolous Ben escaped (this part of Ben was a joke...)
What evidence is there that clementine doesn't think lilly is dead? lilly has been left by her own and as clem seems to think that being in a group is how you do well in the world now (the whole conversation with christa after omid dies) and so clem probably does think lilly is dead.
If you leave her or ifshe takes the rv, Clem knows she can take care of herself because of her military past.Plus, Clem saw her kill Doug/Carley, therefore she would want to forget about Lilly, that doesn't mean she thinks she's dead
Thats what the guy put. Derp.
maybe because she saw Lilly kill Doug/Carley she wants Lilly to be dead which makes her think she is (as, like others have said she was younger when it happened so if she got it into her head then that may have influenced how she thinks now.)
Nobody told her Lilly was dead, however she was likely told Kenny was
Derp