Like Larry, she is an extremely realistic and well written depiction of a terrible person.
Larry had almost no redeeming qualities. An out and out paranoid self centered asshole. However he felt like a real person, much like Rebecca, and this caused me to hate him even more.
The glimpse you get in the bathroom could be the hurt rose beneath the barrage of all those thorns that she displays during the rest of the ep… moreisode.
I want to trust Telltale to make her redeeming qualities rise to the surface soon enough, if there are any. If they don't, then oh well. Perhaps she can redeem herself through other means. Larry perhaps wasn't the most compassionate member of the group, but hey, he had charm coming out of his ass and quite frankly many still like him as a character.
It's really dependant on what Telltale makes of the whole baby business. Has she cheated on Alvin on purpose? Then they'll probabky focus on making her as hatable as possible and then force us into a situation where refusing to help her is an apparent dick move, just like with Larry. Or was she perhaps raped by someone (like Carver, as one assumption reads)? In that case, we'll probably end up understanding her hostility and symphatizing with her. I l… [view original content]
Also if you stay silent when you wake up with the whole cabin group surrounding you, Rebecca tries to take the gun from Nick and that's when it fires.
goddamn it rebecca nobody likes you
Also if you stay silent when you wake up with the whole cabin group surrounding you, Rebecca tries to take the gun from Nick and that's when it fires.
goddamn it rebecca nobody likes you
I believe she will redeem herself in some way. In the picture for episode 3 Rebecca looks like she's in harm's way (see what I did there?) and… more Clementine looks really scared. I hope she will redeem herself because if she doesn't I will be sorely disappointed.
At the drug store Larry wanted to throw Duck out just because he was marked up holding his arm. He is just as bad as Rebecca for wanting to throw Clem out. How do you even like Larry?
Because Larry never said a fucking thing to Duck after realizing he wasn't bitten. Also because he had a reason to be an asshole to everyone. Also, because he's one of the better written characters in the game.
At the drug store Larry wanted to throw Duck out just because he was marked up holding his arm. He is just as bad as Rebecca for wanting to throw Clem out. How do you even like Larry?
I still don't understand you guys thinking Larry was any better then Rebecca. When you first meet him in the drug store he wanted to throw Kenny's son out just because he was hurt with no clear bite marks. Larry was crazy.
He wanted to throw out Duck, and then he hit Lee (with some reason). Rebecca wanted to throw out Clementine, but instead of shutting up once she realized she isn't a threat, she just became a bigger bitch, and revealed that she cheated on her fucking husband. So she doesn't care about her husband, and doesn't care that she was fucking wrong. Fuck her.
I still don't understand you guys thinking Larry was any better then Rebecca. When you first meet him in the drug store he wanted to throw Kenny's son out just because he was hurt with no clear bite marks. Larry was crazy.
He did actually apologize though, am I right? I just think Larry had it really tough, he can be a real asshole, but he can show a good side if you give him a chance. Him punching Lee at the drugstore made me regret going out of my way to get him his medication, but hey, I didn't see it coming.
Because Larry never said a fucking thing to Duck after realizing he wasn't bitten. Also because he had a reason to be an asshole to everyone. Also, because he's one of the better written characters in the game.
Wait, Larry apologized for what? I agree with him being a better guy than people give him credit for. Him punching Lee made me pissed at first, but when I learned why he did it, I felt some sense of respect for him.
He did actually apologize though, am I right? I just think Larry had it really tough, he can be a real asshole, but he can show a good side if… more you give him a chance. Him punching Lee at the drugstore made me regret going out of my way to get him his medication, but hey, I didn't see it coming.
That's the thing though, Rebecca doesn't know that Clem isn't a threat. Anyone who thinks she should is imposing their player perspective on the character. All she knows is that the threat of Clem turning is gone. She could still be a spy for Carver in Rebecca's mind. As such, the viewpoint that Clem is "just a child" could prove detrimental to their group. Add on the unpleasant side effects of being pregnant in a world gone to hell and I can maintain some degree of empathy for her situation.
Regarding the issue of paternity, I'm not jumping to any conclusions on that just yet. That could be a really interesting angle depending on how they go about it. It could've been a lapse of judgment on her part or it may have been rape. Personally, I think it would be interesting to find out that her relationship with Alvin was already on the outs prior to the zombie outbreak with the baby being the only thing keeping that ship afloat now. Both of them clinging to some semblance of familiarity even if it's the toxic kind.
He wanted to throw out Duck, and then he hit Lee (with some reason). Rebecca wanted to throw out Clementine, but instead of shutting up once s… morehe realized she isn't a threat, she just became a bigger bitch, and revealed that she cheated on her fucking husband. So she doesn't care about her husband, and doesn't care that she was fucking wrong. Fuck her.
Think about that for a second. A child, spying on them. What could she possibly do without a gun, eh? She could smash someone over the head with something... But she's a child. She couldn't hit hard enough that they'd die before retaliating. She could get a knife I guess, but oh wait, they're in the top cupboard. Easy solution. No child killing, no dooming the child to loneliness (and likely death). Her being part of Carver's group indicates that Carver already knows where they live. You know what's easier than sending in a spy to get details on what a group is doing? Having somebody hide in the bushes and eat chips, waiting. On top of that, nobody would have those walkers so perfectly timed that Luke and Pete would get them. She's either retarded or a bitch. If they were sending in a spy, they wouldn't have her get bitten by a fucking dog, for another thing... Fuck there are SO MANY holes in that logic.
That would be alright, but if that were to be the case, Rebecca would not give a flying fuck if Clem told the group that Rebecca hoped the baby was Alvin's.
That's the thing though, Rebecca doesn't know that Clem isn't a threat. Anyone who thinks she should is imposing their player perspective on t… morehe character. All she knows is that the threat of Clem turning is gone. She could still be a spy for Carver in Rebecca's mind. As such, the viewpoint that Clem is "just a child" could prove detrimental to their group. Add on the unpleasant side effects of being pregnant in a world gone to hell and I can maintain some degree of empathy for her situation.
Regarding the issue of paternity, I'm not jumping to any conclusions on that just yet. That could be a really interesting angle depending on how they go about it. It could've been a lapse of judgment on her part or it may have been rape. Personally, I think it would be interesting to find out that her relationship with Alvin was already on the outs prior to the zombie outbreak with the baby being the only thing keeping that ship afloat now. Both of them clinging to some semblance of familiarity even if it's the toxic kind.
One could still argue that Larry functioned on an extreme Kenny engine, where all he cared about was Lilly, his family. Then again, he does actually seem to mention intentions of protecting Clementine from Lee at times, through thorny threats.
I guess I just need to learn that not everyone has a key for their locked hearts.
Like Larry, she is an extremely realistic and well written depiction of a terrible person.
Larry had almost no redeeming qualities. An out … moreand out paranoid self centered asshole. However he felt like a real person, much like Rebecca, and this caused me to hate him even more.
Gaining the group's trust would make Clem far more dangerous than any of the physical violence you propose. There are more subversive ways to undermine the group. And the idea is that Rebecca suspects Clem could be there under the guidance of someone she was previously acquainted with. Who knows how crafty this Carver guy is at this point? Maybe the paranoia is justified.
As far as what was said the only one Rebecca seems to actively be concerned about knowing her secret is Alvin hence why she tells Clementine to stay away from him.
Think about that for a second. A child, spying on them. What could she possibly do without a gun, eh? She could smash someone over the head wi… moreth something... But she's a child. She couldn't hit hard enough that they'd die before retaliating. She could get a knife I guess, but oh wait, they're in the top cupboard. Easy solution. No child killing, no dooming the child to loneliness (and likely death). Her being part of Carver's group indicates that Carver already knows where they live. You know what's easier than sending in a spy to get details on what a group is doing? Having somebody hide in the bushes and eat chips, waiting. On top of that, nobody would have those walkers so perfectly timed that Luke and Pete would get them. She's either retarded or a bitch. If they were sending in a spy, they wouldn't have her get bitten by a fucking dog, for another thing... Fuck there are SO MANY holes in that logic.
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But seriously, please tell me what could be accomplished with a little girl that a guy in the bushes couldn't do. Stealing? Yes. He could go in there in the middle of the night and take whatever the fuck he pleases. If they tried to get Clem to do that, wouldn't you think they'd be watching her? Or at least a little distrustful towards her? Now, Rebecca's bitchy-ness is still completely unjustified, but I would understand them not trusting her entirely. But you know what fixes all that shit? Hiding the supplies. Bam. Now she can't do shit but physical violence, which I went over.
Still, don't you think your husband would find out if you were raped? Especially if you live in a group of 6 fucking people?
Gaining the group's trust would make Clem far more dangerous than any of the physical violence you propose. There are more subversive ways to … moreundermine the group. And the idea is that Rebecca suspects Clem could be there under the guidance of someone she was previously acquainted with. Who knows how crafty this Carver guy is at this point? Maybe the paranoia is justified.
As far as what was said the only one Rebecca seems to actively be concerned about knowing her secret is Alvin hence why she tells Clementine to stay away from him.
I hated Larry, but Rebecca's worse. Larry at least had some sort of REASON to hate Lee, and to want to throw Duck out at first.
He knew Lee was a murderer - that makes him someone he shouldnt trust.
He thought Duck was bitten - that made Duck someone who was a danger. When he finds he wasnt bitten, he doesn't say anything more about Duck in any sort of negative way.
Rebecca, on the other hand, hated Clem before even knowing she was bitten (by a dog OR a walker) - it was just 'a little girl! I hate her!' I predict a C-section in the future.
Wait, Larry apologized for what? I agree with him being a better guy than people give him credit for. Him punching Lee made me pissed at first, but when I learned why he did it, I felt some sense of respect for him.
I hated Larry, but Rebecca's worse. Larry at least had some sort of REASON to hate Lee, and to want to throw Duck out at first.
He knew Lee… more was a murderer - that makes him someone he shouldnt trust.
He thought Duck was bitten - that made Duck someone who was a danger. When he finds he wasnt bitten, he doesn't say anything more about Duck in any sort of negative way.
Rebecca, on the other hand, hated Clem before even knowing she was bitten (by a dog OR a walker) - it was just 'a little girl! I hate her!' I predict a C-section in the future.
A guy in the bushes can't weaken the cabin's defenses from within. An unlocked door or a cracked window could prove invaluable during a well timed attack (say when Pete and Nick are away checking the fish traps; that may even be the reason Clem was taken with them). Obviously some degree of trust is needed but at the same time having to keep an eye on Clem means being distracted from watching what's going on outside. So even distrust could still work to Carver's advantage. As far as Clem getting her hands on a weapon, there's a number of seemingly harmless objects that can be used as weapons if you're smart enough. Or hell, maybe one of those numerous candles lying about "accidentally" tips over or something.
But don't get me wrong, I don't care for Rebecca's behavior at all. I'm just trying to keep in mind her possible motivations which might be more complicated than being a bitch.
But seriously, please tell me what could be accomplished with a little girl that a guy in the bushes couldn't do. Stealing? Yes. He could go i… moren there in the middle of the night and take whatever the fuck he pleases. If they tried to get Clem to do that, wouldn't you think they'd be watching her? Or at least a little distrustful towards her? Now, Rebecca's bitchy-ness is still completely unjustified, but I would understand them not trusting her entirely. But you know what fixes all that shit? Hiding the supplies. Bam. Now she can't do shit but physical violence, which I went over.
Still, don't you think your husband would find out if you were raped? Especially if you live in a group of 6 fucking people?
He wouldn't need to weaken the defenses from within when he could just wait for two of them to come out, then shoot them both. Wait for a few people to look for them, rinse , repeat. Why would they need a cracked window when they could just hit it with the butt of their assault rifles (which the title card for episode 2 confirms they have)? With all the zilch activity they seemed to have going on, I could see them being happy they finally have something to do other than wait and worry. With Luke keeping down Clem, it seemed that Pete was still keeping watch, as he noticed that they were a goddamned beacon (or whatever it was he said). Just assigning one person to look over Clem doesn't mean that they're now defenseless. The most dangerous thing Clem found was the fucking needle, which would only be a problem inserted into someone's eye, which they'd probably see before it hit. It would be more practical to walk up in the dark and just set the foundation on fire. The cabin survivors wouldn't notice it until it's a million times bigger than it would've been if it had been set from within, and it would be harder to stop, since there is no running water on the outside of the house. Rain might be a problem, but look at the fucking sky before attempting. Problem solved.
I am keeping in mind all possible motivations, and they don't make any fucking sense.
A guy in the bushes can't weaken the cabin's defenses from within. An unlocked door or a cracked window could prove invaluable during a well t… moreimed attack (say when Pete and Nick are away checking the fish traps; that may even be the reason Clem was taken with them). Obviously some degree of trust is needed but at the same time having to keep an eye on Clem means being distracted from watching what's going on outside. So even distrust could still work to Carver's advantage. As far as Clem getting her hands on a weapon, there's a number of seemingly harmless objects that can be used as weapons if you're smart enough. Or hell, maybe one of those numerous candles lying about "accidentally" tips over or something.
But don't get me wrong, I don't care for Rebecca's behavior at all. I'm just trying to keep in mind her possible motivations which might be more complicated than being a bitch.
Not sure how you know what he would or wouldn't need when the story hasn't gone into Carver's abilities or his situation at all. Rebecca, unlike us, is familiar with him but the cabin group may not know what's currently up with him which may be part of what's putting them on edge. He could have a group capable of pulling off what you say or not. I also never said watching Clem will leave them defenseless but it could be a distraction short of them tying her up.
He wouldn't need to weaken the defenses from within when he could just wait for two of them to come out, then shoot them both. Wait for a few … morepeople to look for them, rinse , repeat. Why would they need a cracked window when they could just hit it with the butt of their assault rifles (which the title card for episode 2 confirms they have)? With all the zilch activity they seemed to have going on, I could see them being happy they finally have something to do other than wait and worry. With Luke keeping down Clem, it seemed that Pete was still keeping watch, as he noticed that they were a goddamned beacon (or whatever it was he said). Just assigning one person to look over Clem doesn't mean that they're now defenseless. The most dangerous thing Clem found was the fucking needle, which would only be a problem inserted into someone's eye, which they'd probably see before it hit. It would be more practical to walk up in the dark and just set the fou… [view original content]
Everyone has their good points and bad points. I like how TWD's characters are so different and real. Rebecca is going to be a real interesting character.
I believe the real question here is: Who doesn't think Rebecca is a huge bitch?
Hopefully, Telltale has something up their sleeves for her, as-is she has to be the most 1-dimensional character we've seen in this series so far. If her role in this game is just to be the biggest bitch possible, my Clem is going to handle her as soon as that opportunity presents itself.
Perhaps Clem will take a page from Kenny's book and take her out with a salt-lick of massive proportions. We can dream right?
Rebecca is now my most hated character in the games. She cheated on her husband, is unsure about who's baby it is, tells the group to kill Clem then gets pissed at Nate when he nearly shoots her, gets mad when she steals medical supplies (you leave an eleven year old with a possibly infected, open wound in a shed outside, what the hell do you think she is going to do?), she acts like she has control over Alvin, and she doesn't even say sorry. If she wasn't carrying that baby and I didn't feel sorry for Alvin I would have had Clem beat her to death with her hammer.
Like Larry, she is an extremely realistic and well written depiction of a terrible person.
Larry had almost no redeeming qualities. An out … moreand out paranoid self centered asshole. However he felt like a real person, much like Rebecca, and this caused me to hate him even more.
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''Who here think Rebecca is a bitch?''
Everyone?
Really hate her, compared to Larry who I never really disliked; I got his reasons
Like Larry, she is an extremely realistic and well written depiction of a terrible person.
Larry had almost no redeeming qualities. An out and out paranoid self centered asshole. However he felt like a real person, much like Rebecca, and this caused me to hate him even more.
She tries to take the gun to shoot Clem with it. Play the scene again and look at what she is saying to Nick, and look at how she is acting.
I can't stand her. The second Telltale gives the chance, I am getting rid of her
We can only hope.
What kind of question is that? I don't see who doesn't.
I didn't even know that. What a fucking bitch, my god.
I saw what you did there
Ditto.
At the drug store Larry wanted to throw Duck out just because he was marked up holding his arm. He is just as bad as Rebecca for wanting to throw Clem out. How do you even like Larry?
It was kind of a stupid question, lol. Only character in the whole series I hate more is Michelle.
Because Larry never said a fucking thing to Duck after realizing he wasn't bitten. Also because he had a reason to be an asshole to everyone. Also, because he's one of the better written characters in the game.
I still don't understand you guys thinking Larry was any better then Rebecca. When you first meet him in the drug store he wanted to throw Kenny's son out just because he was hurt with no clear bite marks. Larry was crazy.
He wanted to throw out Duck, and then he hit Lee (with some reason). Rebecca wanted to throw out Clementine, but instead of shutting up once she realized she isn't a threat, she just became a bigger bitch, and revealed that she cheated on her fucking husband. So she doesn't care about her husband, and doesn't care that she was fucking wrong. Fuck her.
He did actually apologize though, am I right? I just think Larry had it really tough, he can be a real asshole, but he can show a good side if you give him a chance. Him punching Lee at the drugstore made me regret going out of my way to get him his medication, but hey, I didn't see it coming.
Wait, Larry apologized for what? I agree with him being a better guy than people give him credit for. Him punching Lee made me pissed at first, but when I learned why he did it, I felt some sense of respect for him.
That's the thing though, Rebecca doesn't know that Clem isn't a threat. Anyone who thinks she should is imposing their player perspective on the character. All she knows is that the threat of Clem turning is gone. She could still be a spy for Carver in Rebecca's mind. As such, the viewpoint that Clem is "just a child" could prove detrimental to their group. Add on the unpleasant side effects of being pregnant in a world gone to hell and I can maintain some degree of empathy for her situation.
Regarding the issue of paternity, I'm not jumping to any conclusions on that just yet. That could be a really interesting angle depending on how they go about it. It could've been a lapse of judgment on her part or it may have been rape. Personally, I think it would be interesting to find out that her relationship with Alvin was already on the outs prior to the zombie outbreak with the baby being the only thing keeping that ship afloat now. Both of them clinging to some semblance of familiarity even if it's the toxic kind.
Think about that for a second. A child, spying on them. What could she possibly do without a gun, eh? She could smash someone over the head with something... But she's a child. She couldn't hit hard enough that they'd die before retaliating. She could get a knife I guess, but oh wait, they're in the top cupboard. Easy solution. No child killing, no dooming the child to loneliness (and likely death). Her being part of Carver's group indicates that Carver already knows where they live. You know what's easier than sending in a spy to get details on what a group is doing? Having somebody hide in the bushes and eat chips, waiting. On top of that, nobody would have those walkers so perfectly timed that Luke and Pete would get them. She's either retarded or a bitch. If they were sending in a spy, they wouldn't have her get bitten by a fucking dog, for another thing... Fuck there are SO MANY holes in that logic.
That would be alright, but if that were to be the case, Rebecca would not give a flying fuck if Clem told the group that Rebecca hoped the baby was Alvin's.
Hmm. True, I suppose.
One could still argue that Larry functioned on an extreme Kenny engine, where all he cared about was Lilly, his family. Then again, he does actually seem to mention intentions of protecting Clementine from Lee at times, through thorny threats.
I guess I just need to learn that not everyone has a key for their locked hearts.
Gaining the group's trust would make Clem far more dangerous than any of the physical violence you propose. There are more subversive ways to undermine the group. And the idea is that Rebecca suspects Clem could be there under the guidance of someone she was previously acquainted with. Who knows how crafty this Carver guy is at this point? Maybe the paranoia is justified.
As far as what was said the only one Rebecca seems to actively be concerned about knowing her secret is Alvin hence why she tells Clementine to stay away from him.
But seriously, please tell me what could be accomplished with a little girl that a guy in the bushes couldn't do. Stealing? Yes. He could go in there in the middle of the night and take whatever the fuck he pleases. If they tried to get Clem to do that, wouldn't you think they'd be watching her? Or at least a little distrustful towards her? Now, Rebecca's bitchy-ness is still completely unjustified, but I would understand them not trusting her entirely. But you know what fixes all that shit? Hiding the supplies. Bam. Now she can't do shit but physical violence, which I went over.
Still, don't you think your husband would find out if you were raped? Especially if you live in a group of 6 fucking people?
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Total bitch. Mess of hormones. My main goal in TWD S.2 is going to be to make her trust me.
My main goal of season 2 is to make sure she gets lockjaw. After the baby's out, of course. I'm not a monster.
I hated Larry, but Rebecca's worse. Larry at least had some sort of REASON to hate Lee, and to want to throw Duck out at first.
He knew Lee was a murderer - that makes him someone he shouldnt trust.
He thought Duck was bitten - that made Duck someone who was a danger. When he finds he wasnt bitten, he doesn't say anything more about Duck in any sort of negative way.
Rebecca, on the other hand, hated Clem before even knowing she was bitten (by a dog OR a walker) - it was just 'a little girl! I hate her!' I predict a C-section in the future.
Thank you...
I mean, I really liked Larry, but you display my points beautifully.
A guy in the bushes can't weaken the cabin's defenses from within. An unlocked door or a cracked window could prove invaluable during a well timed attack (say when Pete and Nick are away checking the fish traps; that may even be the reason Clem was taken with them). Obviously some degree of trust is needed but at the same time having to keep an eye on Clem means being distracted from watching what's going on outside. So even distrust could still work to Carver's advantage. As far as Clem getting her hands on a weapon, there's a number of seemingly harmless objects that can be used as weapons if you're smart enough. Or hell, maybe one of those numerous candles lying about "accidentally" tips over or something.
But don't get me wrong, I don't care for Rebecca's behavior at all. I'm just trying to keep in mind her possible motivations which might be more complicated than being a bitch.
He wouldn't need to weaken the defenses from within when he could just wait for two of them to come out, then shoot them both. Wait for a few people to look for them, rinse , repeat. Why would they need a cracked window when they could just hit it with the butt of their assault rifles (which the title card for episode 2 confirms they have)? With all the zilch activity they seemed to have going on, I could see them being happy they finally have something to do other than wait and worry. With Luke keeping down Clem, it seemed that Pete was still keeping watch, as he noticed that they were a goddamned beacon (or whatever it was he said). Just assigning one person to look over Clem doesn't mean that they're now defenseless. The most dangerous thing Clem found was the fucking needle, which would only be a problem inserted into someone's eye, which they'd probably see before it hit. It would be more practical to walk up in the dark and just set the foundation on fire. The cabin survivors wouldn't notice it until it's a million times bigger than it would've been if it had been set from within, and it would be harder to stop, since there is no running water on the outside of the house. Rain might be a problem, but look at the fucking sky before attempting. Problem solved.
I am keeping in mind all possible motivations, and they don't make any fucking sense.
Not sure how you know what he would or wouldn't need when the story hasn't gone into Carver's abilities or his situation at all. Rebecca, unlike us, is familiar with him but the cabin group may not know what's currently up with him which may be part of what's putting them on edge. He could have a group capable of pulling off what you say or not. I also never said watching Clem will leave them defenseless but it could be a distraction short of them tying her up.
Everyone has their good points and bad points. I like how TWD's characters are so different and real. Rebecca is going to be a real interesting character.
As of episode one, I rather dislike her. Haven't revealed that I know her secret. Refused to speak to her actually.
"Hey, Rebecca is pregnant and her hormones are just acting up. I'm pretty sure she's a good woman!"
Just kidding. I hate her.
The worst part is, Nicks still gets the blame for the gun going off.
As he should. There's a reason Pete keeps telling him to keep his finger off the trigger. The gun never would've gone off otherwise.
I believe the real question here is: Who doesn't think Rebecca is a huge bitch?
Hopefully, Telltale has something up their sleeves for her, as-is she has to be the most 1-dimensional character we've seen in this series so far. If her role in this game is just to be the biggest bitch possible, my Clem is going to handle her as soon as that opportunity presents itself.
Perhaps Clem will take a page from Kenny's book and take her out with a salt-lick of massive proportions. We can dream right?
Rebecca is now my most hated character in the games. She cheated on her husband, is unsure about who's baby it is, tells the group to kill Clem then gets pissed at Nate when he nearly shoots her, gets mad when she steals medical supplies (you leave an eleven year old with a possibly infected, open wound in a shed outside, what the hell do you think she is going to do?), she acts like she has control over Alvin, and she doesn't even say sorry. If she wasn't carrying that baby and I didn't feel sorry for Alvin I would have had Clem beat her to death with her hammer.
I am still pissed about that!
Great point Qupoi. Every story (not just Telltale) seems to have a villain/annoying type who the fans root against just to make things interesting.
You shouldn't judge looks, it may come back to bite you in the A** if you do.