Hard choices
Ok, to talk about other subjects different from the release date, I remembered we could talk about decisions, more specifically your hardest ones.
My hardest decisions in the game were.
Season 1: Who to give food to (Starved for help), To kill or not to kill Larry (Starved for Help), Leave or not Lilly (Long road ahead) and what to say to Clementine in the end (No time left)
400 days: Shoot Justin or Danny (VInce story), shoot or not the chinese guy (Shel's story) and to leave the group or not (Sehl's story)
Season 2 (episode 1 obviously): Save Pete or Nick.
So what were your hardest decisions in the game, and by that I mean the ones that you took a long time to decide or you just stood there not knowing what to do because both decisions would lead to consequences you didn't want?
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Killing Larry was hard. I took the food without a second thought. It was unattended, we had kids to feed.
One was deciding to let Clem to Crawford or not, and whether to shoot Lee or not.
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And the part we get to choose one of the 3 tools from the train.
OH NO, I didn't meant that, obviously I took the stuff out of the car without blinking...
I mean at the beggining of the episode when you have to decide who you give the 4 pieces of food the group has.
yes, the tools from the train was a really hard one too :P
Dude yeah that one I mean there's two kids, so really (if you have a soul) you only had 2 food items for 8 hungry people. Yeah that was hard.
The Danny thing from 400 days. I actually shot the Wall Street dude, because fuck Wall Street.
Bioshock wrench it is then, I guess
Choosing whose ankle to shoot off in 400 Days was probably the hardest choice of the whole game. The pyramid scheme guy in the back of the bus was pretty obnoxious but nobody deserves that.
Allowing Clem to come to Crawford or not was difficult. From what we'd heard at that stage it was the last place a kid should be. At the same time I didn't want to leave her alone (well, apart from an unconscious Omid) in the house and vulnerable to walkers. Just to make it even more complicated if she comes along then Omid is left totally alone in the house and vulnerable which also seems wrong. In reality the logical choice would be Clem stays but so does someone else I can trust to look after them both – pretty much the only option being Kenny. The game didn't offer that choice, though.
Deciding whether or not to cut off the guy's leg at the start of episode 2 was another. I did it in the end but that was a tough one.
I really tried my best to keep the peace between Lilly & Kenny, not siding with either. Look how that paid off! Kenny thought I didn't have his back (I did) and Lilly shot the hot girl who was the only sensible adult in the group.
I found choosing who to give the food to easy: the kids always come first, Larry (he's old, has a heart condition, I'm trying to pacify Lilly and show Larry I can be objective even though he doesn't like me) and Mark (he's just been hunting and is doing physical work and complaining of feeling weak).
I didn't take the food although I probably would have in real life. The more I think about that whole situation the more I don't think it makes a lot of sense…
The thing about Clem, yes it would have made sense that she stayed with Omid and someone else, but who was there to stay? Christa, Kenny or Ben?
I liked Ben but wasn't going to leave Omid and Clementine alone with him, on the other hand leaving Kenny (who I wasn't a big fan off but kind of respected at the same time) or Christa would make the group that went to Crawford weaker... But I didn't said it was a hard one since I was never thinking on taking Clem with Lee to Crawford.
Now that you mention that about the car, yes, that was pretty weird... You stop your car to go hunting with your kid, AT NIGHT during a zombie appocalypse? really? I guess the group never looked for someone because they actually needed the supplies from the car... I'm pretty cold-hearted so I never thought on not taking the supplies, I need I take simple as that you want them to yourself you have to be able to fight for it.
I didn't really trust Christa enough to leave Clem with her at that point. I'd want Kenny with me in Crawford but he's also the only one I would trust to look after Clem.
Definitely not Ben. I'd probably get back to find he'd locked Clem outside to keep the walkers busy and hidden in the attic.
The way I saw it with the strangers car, I'd taken the whole group up to the St Johns on the promise of a good meal for once, then we found out the good meal was Mark and got attacked by cannibals. We got no food, we were hungry, and it was the middle of the night and I figured looking at the abandoned car with the doors wide and the lights on that the owner was dead or fucking stupid. Either way he didn't need that food as much as us. So fuck him.
I even told him he fucked up during his little rant and sob story at the hotel.
Ikr? I seriously thought they'd have a big impact
In retrospect that's absolutely the correct assessment of the situation. I think at the time I was a little shell-shocked by the whole "I just fought off a family of cannibals" thing and didn't want to be the bad guy exploiting someone else.
I'm kind off a bad guy in the game, more like an anti-hero per say :P
I'm that kind off people that protects the ones from his group, so I will shoot and roob people if I have to to protect me and my group...
I'm not saying I will not help "outsiders", I helped Ben and were glad he was alive and in the group, because he was no treat to the group he was just a lost survivor like the group was.
That was the prolbme with some decisions, they looked like they would be improtant and have huge consequences but in the end nothing happened...
The tools are a huge example, like saving Duck or Hershel's son or to leave or bring Lilly (that was a really hard one for me because I allways supported Lilly about almost everything and I thought that bringing her or leaving her would influence a lot of the story, but it looks like it didn't, unless until now)
He states he conned people from Wall street though while the other guy committed a sex crime.
I actually didn't hated or disliked any of them, but Justin seemed not so ready to make hard decisions like Danny, that even stood up to the guard when he pointed the gun at them.
Justin crime was a financial crime and by the conversation we had I wasn't sure Danny really commited the crime (wich turns out he did) so I didn't had that in count, it wsa really as I said before choosing the guy that most likely would have my back.
Giving out rations and deciding what to do with Larry were two of the hardest for me. I hate how with the latter, someone is going to be pissed at you no matter what.
Yes, my problem with that one was that I was allways on Lilly's side and so didn't wanted to kill her father without being really sure he was dead BUT at the same time Kenny's point made more sense than her's so I was conflicted, either way I ended up not killing him but Kenny did it...
And this is the make or break decision for your relationship with either charatchers, Kenny will allways ressent you if you side with Lilly to the point of not evne saving you when you are under gunpoint from Danny st.john and if you side with Lilly she'll allways blame you for her father's death, but the leaves anyways so...
The stranger lost his son, so him his wife and his daughter were out looking for him when the group took the supplies.
Was I really the only one that ffound it hard to choose between Nick and Pete? :P
Because that was really difficult for me
He commited a fucking WHAT?!? Shit I thought he'd beat up his girlfriend or something, I must've been paying more attention to the guys arguing up front.
Fuck I didn't know he was a rapist. I shot Justin because Danny seemed like he'd have a better chance of surviving, and be easier to control, plus he was gonna take a shotgun round for me. Justing seemed like white collar Nate. And as much as I love Nate, I didn't want two of them possibly meeting Clem in the future.
I wanted to save Pete but when I saw the bite I was like "dude, sorry but…"
Statutory rape. Not a good thing but he's not a full on kiddie fiddler or violent rapist.
Exactly dude. In that situation I think I would basically be the Governor without his sicko fucking necro bullshit. More like the show Governor.
Maybe Joel from TLOU is a better example, but with the Governors attachment to his family.
I'd do pretty much anything to keep my group alive, but like you said about Ben, if someone isn't a threat, I'd treat them fairly. Threats I would put down hard.
I know, and it was a shitty thing to do from his perspective a real shitty thing to do, but like the Governor said to Hershel, "they aren't mine" I had two kids and I think 9 hungry adults to feed and we'd gone through hell.
If I'd had the option, I'd've left one of the boxes for him just in case, but my priority is my group, and at the time, I knew nothing about his situation, and I don't think I was unreasonable in assuming he was dead, what with the fucking Save-Lots crew running all over those parts and the car being down the road from a family of now deceased cannibals.
Actually what I had more in account was the number of walkers surrounding them, I mean, Pete only had two walkers on him, I thought "oh well even hurt he could easily outrun them, even without ammo", so I went with Nick that had like 5 walkers on him and apparently is a very bad shooter...
That was really hard for me, I liked them both and didn't wanted any of them to die...
I didn't thought about the bite at all but that was me
No that was difficult, I mean, Pete was bit, Nick was useless. In the end, I went with Pete. We were being swarmed by walkers, and he was the more capable and more in need of immediate aid.
I know it's gonna come back and bite me, I just hope not literally
I killed the woman without blinking :P Does anyone knows if that really makes a difference on the time that you have to get supplies or that's just for show?
Yeah, killing the woman was a difficult choice. I tried to shoot the walkers off her but didn't get very far.
In ep 1 I had no problem giving the girl the gun. I'd want someone to do that for me if I was bit. I even told Carley to shoot her.
Giving Larry food was a hard choice. I only had 2 pieces for 8 people and Larry was not on my christmas card list after he tried to murder me. In the end I fed him and Mark. The kids should go without saying. I fed those two because Mark was so hungry he was willing to risk Walkers for a crow, and I wanted to try to keep the peace with Lilly.
The Larry situation was the hardest. After talking to Lilly I understood Larry, but in the end I couldn't risk having him loose in a locked room walkerized with Clem in there.
Letting Lilly back on the RV was hard, but I knew that the arguing and gun would draw walkers, and I'm not leaving someone to be eaten by zombies, if I want them dead, I'll do them the courtesy of doing it myself. I didn't know what to do with Lilly. My loyalty is to the group, and now I've got someone who's betrayed us as well as an unstable grieving woman to deal with. Lilly did me a favor taking the RV. I wasn't looking forward to shooting her.
I mulled over voting for Ben in Crawford. I was always sympathetic to him but he was trying my patience by then by putting Clem at risk. In the end, I'm not gonna leave a really immature kid to be eaten by walkers because he fucks up. Kenny said it better than I could.
Chopping off Lees arm was hard.
Killing the stranger wasn't, neither was making sure Lee didn't turn. After everything she'd been through, that was one last lesson I had to make sure Clem understood, as hard as it was for her.
KILLING LEE
I sympathized with Ben too, I mean he fucked up reak time, but he was a kid... And he was trying, I saved him for as long as long as I could.
I actually didn0t kileld Larry, I thought "well, in real life we would have time to see if he had turned or not nefore killing him, so calm down..."
I also let Lilly in the RV, gave the fun to the girl, chopped off Lee's arm, killed the stranger and told Clem to kill Lee
I might be wrong but sure the dialogue suggested it was an underage girl.
Leaving the girl was hard for about ten seconds, till she was bit, then I wasn't gonna draw that fucking herd down to the drugstore by shooting her.
Listening to her begging was cringeworthy though, I knew I'd made the right choice, but man! Those screams were putting me off collecting the meds.
Yes, it's awfull I was like "Oh COME ON!! Just die :S"
bringing clementine to crawford saves molly if youre not fast enough,but i didnt know at the time,but i still brought clem to crawford,even though it was gonna be dangerous
Yeah, that's what I mean. It also hinted that he may not have known she was underage. It's still bad, of course, but given the choice between Danny who is kind of an idiot & tends to think with his dick but at least has some humanity underneath (he tries to get you to break up the fight, he obviously has feelings for his girlfriend even though it's 100% his fault she hates him) and Justin who has no empathy & is completely selfish (his excuse for his crime: "other people did worse things and got away with it"… er, it's still wrong, dipshit) I know who I'm down with. Of the two of them who is more redeemable & who is more likely to have your back in a tight spot?
Yeah it's still kinda fucked up. For a second I thought I'd let a fucking pedo loose where he could run across Clementine. I don't replay choices during the same game so that would suck.
Justin was a dick though. He seemed like a guy who would fuck over his own group if he thought it would benefit him and as such made better use as walker bait.
Cutting Lee's arm off. Very very difficult but I ended up doing it just for the slight chance that it would save his life but we all know how that ended.....