Carl and Clem appreciation thread

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edited February 2014 in The Walking Dead

How would Carl and Clem survive in a zombie apocalypse? Would you like to see a spin-off series where Clem and Carl meet?

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  • I love Clementine. Do not care about Carl.

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    Oh god...what the hell is this? You think Clementine and Carl should be together? Oh god...

    (Clementine has more balls than Carl)

  • " My girl got more balls and all of you combined. " Sounds familiar.

    But srsly what the fuck is this thread? Clem would kick Carls little skinny ass!

    Zinthous posted: »

    Oh god...what the hell is this? You think Clementine and Carl should be together? Oh god... (Clementine has more balls than Carl)

  • Comic book Carl or tv show carl? Im pretty sure the comic book one is pretty brave

  • But Clementine-Everett i like Clem more than Carl but if (comic book) Carl and Clem fought at this point Carl would destroy her... JS

  • Someone get that psychopath away from Clem!

  • Which Carl are you talking about? If it's the tv version then..... No,no,no. Bear in mind, i don't really hate Carl. Hell, in the comics right now he is indeed pretty badass. But still.... I just don't see these two mix. One more thing, we are not talking about romance here,right?

  • It wouldn't work. Game happens in the same continuity as the comics and there Carl is Sophia's "boyfriend".

  • You can dislike Carl all you want, but he is, in fact, much more badass than Clementine (keep in mind that I like both of them).

    Carl may be younger and much more inexperienced with melee weapons than Clementine, but he does not fuck things up as much as she does and he's basically a hardened child soldier, capable to get shit done (see picture).

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    Clementine, on the other hand, tends to bring herself in situations, in which other people die trying to protect her and has the stupid habit of being unarmed.

  • You are probaply right about that...i didn't read the Comics so my opinion only counts about TV show Carl.

    MultiRienzi posted: »

    But Clementine-Everett i like Clem more than Carl but if (comic book) Carl and Clem fought at this point Carl would destroy her... JS

  • Unless the OP was referring to the comic Carl then yes, but judging from the picture he used it looks like the TV show Carl.

    You can dislike Carl all you want, but he is, in fact, much more badass than Clementine (keep in mind that I like both of them). Carl may b

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    Carl's a cool, tough kid.
    He knows how to fend for himself.
    Although I will admit, he definitely started going down a dark path, after he killed that kid in cold blood.
    However, cause of Rick's devotion as a father, I think Carl's going to develop into a fine young man.
    As Herschel once said, " We can all come back."
    In spite of the utter hell going on around him!

    Same for Clementine.
    She's a tenacious little girl, with a heart of gold.
    And, if Kenny finds her and takes her in as his own, under his watch, I think she'll become a fine young woman.
    Kenny's a good and decent man, and would be a great father figure to her.

  • I think Carl's older then Clementine.
    On the show, Carl's about 14 years old.
    Clementine looks to be about 11 yrs old.

    You can dislike Carl all you want, but he is, in fact, much more badass than Clementine (keep in mind that I like both of them). Carl may b

  • Carl in the show is 12.

    Kenny/Lee posted: »

    I think Carl's older then Clementine. On the show, Carl's about 14 years old. Clementine looks to be about 11 yrs old.

  • 14.

    DougGreene posted: »

    Carl in the show is 12.

  • I look at this thread and...

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  • He's... 12...

    14.

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    No man, he is 14.
    His voice is getting deeper, that normally doesn't happen until a kid hits there teenage years.
    So he's a fucking teenager now!
    On his way to becoming a man!
    Thanks for the support Randomz89101.

    DougGreene posted: »

    He's... 12...

  • So this thread is a toilet, seems legit.

  • Comic Carl is 9 though.

    DougGreene posted: »

    Carl in the show is 12.

  • No, Carl would shoot her right away. Not the first kid he killed.

  • carl will be clementines bitch!

  • Carl story is just starting while Clementine is just simply surviving in this world right now. Negan wasn't so wrong when he said that Carl deeply scares him, because he is going to grow into a man even more brutal and cold-blooded than Negan or the Governour together.
    Clementine needs character development, or else she will just grow into a women whose surroundings made her completely numb.

  • He was 12 in S1. There was a time skip between S2 and 3, and by the end of S3, Carl was 13. Now, he is about 14 as it's been about 2+ years since the turn in the TV Show.

    It's been 3 1/2 years in the comics, so Comic Carl is actually 10, almost 11.

    DougGreene posted: »

    Carl in the show is 12.

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    You can't compare TV Carl(Chandler Riggs) to Clementine, as Clementine exists in the Telltale/Skybound Universe, and TV Carl exists in the AMC Universe.

    So that'd mean you can only be talking about Clem and Comic Carl, if you were to be logical. And despite all the things I have against this, i'll just go with the simplest explanation.

    Comic Carl is with Sophia. ._.

    However, the picture you posted is of Clem and TV Carl, which in that case... The two characters are not in canon stories, so it's impossible for them to ever meet. Sorry about that. The only way your dream will be realized is if a TV version of Clem were introduced, which... Actually might happen since Scott M. Gimple says that he is aware of the Telltale Games and says that he is open to the possibility of using content from them...

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    While I also watch the TV-series, I don't think the game characters would add anything to the series. Especially if we get similarly butchered AMC versions of the characters, like they did to comic book characters. The comic series is often very dark and brutal, and unfortunately the AMC version has removed grittiest material, like the real reason why Michonne hates the The Governor so much and added stuff like extended Rick-Lori-Shane love triangle.

    Zyphon posted: »

    You can't compare TV Carl(Chandler Riggs) to Clementine, as Clementine exists in the Telltale/Skybound Universe, and TV Carl exists in the AMC

  • That's not true, around issue 90 Rick mentioned that they were almost 2 years into the apocalypse, the Negan arch is not much later, maybe a few weeks.

    Zyphon posted: »

    He was 12 in S1. There was a time skip between S2 and 3, and by the end of S3, Carl was 13. Now, he is about 14 as it's been about 2+ years si

  • It is up to Clem right? xD

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    No, you're wrong. The whole prison arc is say 1 1/2 after the turn by the time it ends. From there to Alexandria, another years passes. Making their time to Alexandria 2+ years. Then we get halloween, making it 3 years. We get some small time skips and story progression. By the time Negan shows up, we're at 3+ years.

    The TV show is at about 2 1/2 years after the turn, and telltale's is just a couple months behind.

    That's not true, around issue 90 Rick mentioned that they were almost 2 years into the apocalypse, the Negan arch is not much later, maybe a few weeks.

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    I think that the majority of TV Characters are better than their Comic Versions (Rick, The Governor), but we do get horribly butchered versions of characters like Andrea, possibly the worst character in the franchise(Though I partially blame her actress for that).

    Thankfully, Scott M. Gimple is now the showrunner for Seasons 4 and 5(He's the guy who wrote "Clear", one of the best episodes). So I've been putting a lot more trust into the shows writers since S4 started. I think they would make fairly satisfying alternate versions of the telltale Characters.

    That being said, I never actually said in my previous comment that I wanted them in the TV Show, only pointing out that it could happen.

    At the same time, there is a reason for them to make an appearance in the show. The TV Show has been moving much faster than the Comics (S3 and S4P1 was all of books 3-8), and if they keep going at their current rate, they might overtake the Comics. This isn't a good thing, as they use the comics as a "roadmap".

    To stop this from happening, they've got a few options. Introduce new and original content(something they've been doing a little bit at a time), or, take content from other Walking Dead Series'. They've already done this a bit with Lilly and Tara. Lilly was an alternate of April, from the prequel novel "The Rise of The Governor", Tara is an alternate version of the Tara form that same book.

    Other things they can take content from... Telltale's. Not saying that they will do this, or that I want them to, but both Scott M. Gimple and Robert Kirkman have said it's a possibility, and something they'd like to do at some point if given the opportunity.

    In short... There's a reason, there's a chance it could happen, and although I'm not sure it's a good idea, I trust them to do it, at least more so than I'd have trusted the writers for Seasons 2-3.

    While I also watch the TV-series, I don't think the game characters would add anything to the series. Especially if we get similarly butchered

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    Also, I do agree with you on the fact that it suffers a bit from having to censor some things. I mean, character's like Negan are almost "unwrittable" at this point. I wonder how they'll get around that...

    Zyphon posted: »

    I think that the majority of TV Characters are better than their Comic Versions (Rick, The Governor), but we do get horribly butchered version

  • I never claimed that you wanted to see that, I just commented why I feel uncomfortable about the idea of seeing AMC versions of the characters like Clem, Lee, Kenny and Nate.

    The series isn't all that bad, although it sometimes loses it's momentum and ends up dragging. When I watched the entire show again, I noticed this even better than when I first watched the show, especially Season 2 felt like a chore to watch.

    Zyphon posted: »

    Also, I do agree with you on the fact that it suffers a bit from having to censor some things. I mean, character's like Negan are almost "unwrittable" at this point. I wonder how they'll get around that...

  • I guess if the both grown up...they are a sexy couple i guess...who knows how they look as adults

  • Nope, in Issue 91 Rick confirms that they are almost 2 years into apocalypse:

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    That was in winter, so the Negan war is max. 2 and a half years after it happened.

    Zyphon posted: »

    No, you're wrong. The whole prison arc is say 1 1/2 after the turn by the time it ends. From there to Alexandria, another years passes. Making

  • She will live, but as what? Maybe like the women in woods in the TV version? She needs some character development like Carl, otherwise they have to create a new theme song for her with the title "Dead Inside".

  • I like both of them. But I have noticed that Carl has grown to be very arrogant and reckless lately, whereas Clementine seems to think more before she acts.
    I could certainly see a scenario where if Carl and Clementine were in a dangerous situation together, Carl would jump to the first opportunity he sees, whereas Clem would analyse the situation first before making a move. Not to mention if Carl made a reckless move, Clem would more than likely have to save him.

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    The timeline is so confusing. Robert Kirkman mentioned in the interview in the 10th Anniversary edition of #1 that it was three and a half years after the turn.... Can't blame me for thinking that the sole writer and creator was a reliable source.

    Nope, in Issue 91 Rick confirms that they are almost 2 years into apocalypse: That was in winter, so the Negan war is max. 2 and a half years after it happened.

  • It felt as if that was what you were claiming, sorry if I misunderstood you. You're opinion is totally valid, I'm not super excited about it either, well, I wasn't, but ever since "Live Bait", the episodes have just been getting better and better, and I'm kind of warming up to the idea.

    I never claimed that you wanted to see that, I just commented why I feel uncomfortable about the idea of seeing AMC versions of the characters

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