You wouldn't want to stop playing after episode1 what with the story having just begun and all, would you?
The 35 bucks are a good investment, even if they decided to take our money and spend the rest of their lives in the carribbean with it the first episode alone would be well worth the money!
Otherwise you could wait until they have released all of them and then decide whether to buy.. then again, who could resist Monkey Island for that long? I know I couldn't..
Anyways, I'm sure you won't regret buying the whole thing!
Sorry I've searched the answer for this but couldn't find it. I don't know if the game will be translated, and if it was to happen, if it would be translated in French. But let's say I buy the whole game at 35$ in English, does this mean when the translation is out(if it is made) I should pay the whole game again? Or would there be a solution to have the translation for free, or just a extra fee?
I'm going to guess "after episode 2" or MAYBE "after episode 3". Telltale is under the assumption that the confusion of the episodic format can be mitigated by removing an important option from the equation. I think the "Season Upgrade" is incredibly important though, and to cut the option out ENTIRELY rather than find a way to better explain it is a disservice to new customers.
I'm going to guess "after episode 2" or MAYBE "after episode 3". Telltale is under the assumption that the confusion of the episodic format can be mitigated by removing an important option from the equation. I think the "Season Upgrade" is incredibly important though, and to cut the option out ENTIRELY rather than find a way to better explain it is a disservice to new customers.
I completely agree. Not providing this option pretty much kills anything "episodic" about their games. This can especially be said with Tales of Monkey Island where the first part ends in a major cliffhanger and is not a self-contained adventure in any sense of the word. I guess that is why they named it "Chapter 1" instead of "Episode 1" like they have with previous titles.
Honestly at this point they are pretty much demanding that their customers pay now for a product they will receive later and in installments. I don't think this will go down well with most people as there really aren't any other companies out there that think they are special enough to do this.
I honestly find it hard to believe that this business model is helping Telltale either. I have seen a lot of people on forums who wanted to pick this up on Steam come complaining that Telltale is crazy to be charging $34.95 per episode. The concept of paying for a video game in advance only to receive the content in installments is so foreign to most people that they come to the conclusion that each episode is $34.95. I can't imagine how many people have been confused in a similar way and not picked up the game because of it. In fact, I doubt there have been many people who purchased this who weren't fans of the old Monkey Island games and weren't familiar with Telltale. A lot of these people would definitely have jumped on a $8.99 per episode price point, though. I obviously don't have any data to back up my beliefs, but I would be seriously surprised to hear that this new pricing policy is actually helping Telltale rather than hurting them.
That said, the first Chapter of Tales of Monkey Island is fantastic and am eagerly anticipating the upcoming episodes. However, the only reason I bought this is because it is the Monkey Island series which I love. I was interested in buying Wallace and Grommit on Steam months ago, but I didn't want to pay for the entire season for a game I wasn't sure about (this was before I knew you could buy individual episodes via Telltale's website). I have since played through the first episode of W&G that I received with my Tales of Monkey Island purchase and went on to buy the rest of the season which is something I wouldn't have done without that first taste (the demo really wasn't enough to make a decision).
I think this is a tug of war between Telltale and us. Obviously the best system for customers would be if it were $7 per episode and you wouldn't get all this fuss. But I'm sure Telltale are hoping some people are buying the whole season where they would have just bought one or two episodes, and I'm sure it helps their cash flow to have money up front rather than having to wait 5 months. On the plus side they are giving us an extra episode of something or another to sweeten the deal of having to pay in advance, so it's not all bad.
I think this is a tug of war between Telltale and us. Obviously the best system for customers would be if it were $7 per episode and you wouldn't get all this fuss. But I'm sure Telltale are hoping some people are buying the whole season where they would have just bought one or two episodes, and I'm sure it helps their cash flow to have money up front rather than having to wait 5 months. On the plus side they are giving us an extra episode of something or another to sweeten the deal of having to pay in advance, so it's not all bad.
All telltale games, including ToMI are readily available on torrent sites. If people don't want to pay $35 dollars up front then they will inevitably go download the games free, and if they think telltale deserves $35 for the 5 games, they'll buy the season later.
I'm not saying it's necessarily the right thing to do, but I'm betting it's what plenty of people are going to do. Serves telltale right. Stop jerking your customers about and let us buy the games individually.
I don't see why the big need to buy a single episode. Playing one seems pointless without eventually playing the other four anyway.
Correct but Telltales would atrract more people to the first episode if they sell it individually. Not all people trust telltales and give $35 for uncomplete game.
I think this is a tug of war between Telltale and us. Obviously the best system for customers would be if it were $7 per episode and you wouldn't get all this fuss.
Actually, telltale charges $9 per episode. You get a discount for buying the whole season in bulk.
And.... stop complaining, all telltale games were like this at first and then they eventually allowed you to buy them individually.
Would they not be able to just have two options, say charge $7-$8 for the first episode before the rest are out, as well as have an option to purchase the entire season (With the added bonuses like the special DVD cover and free game of course)?
*I am kicking my a$$ for not getting money onto my PayPal account soon enough to get all the bonus material. Extremely depressed lol!
1. ToMI is a single game divided to five chapters rather than group of separate episodes which form a season, so there's not much point of selling single episodes.
2. LucasArts is involved as partner and owner of the Monkey Island brand, so maybe they wanted that game is sold as single packet rather than episodes. (This is just a wild guess and I have no idea what LucasArts wants).
1. ToMI is a single game divided to five chapters rather than group of separate episodes which form a season, so there's not much point of selling single episodes.
2. LucasArts is involved as partner and owner of the Monkey Island brand, so maybe they wanted that game is sold as single packet rather than episodes. (This is just a wild guess and I have no idea what LucasArts wants).
Having 5 individual games and not sell them individually doesn't make much sense...
The best way in my opinion is to sell only the first episode individually and then if you like it, upgrade. I don't see the reason to have the other episodes for sale since no one is going to start playing from episode 2.
If they don't want to sell it as episodic content then maybe they should put out the game when it is finished? I am perfectly happy paying for Monkey Island, but like I said in my above post, I only did it because I love the Monkey Island series. I would never pay up front for an entire season of a game I wasn't sure about.
Telltale's "manifest" (if you will) is to provide episodic adventure games. They are going against that with TOMI. This is not an episodic game. It is simply a "pay-now-play-later" type of thing which you will find nowhere else in the video game industry. The way they word it on the TOMI page, using expressions like "the deal" and "get them all" implies that they are seperate entities and the customer is somehow getting a bargain by paying for them all up front even though there is no other method.
Well its still episodic content being released like that far better then waiting ages comming out now in parts and they are chaptors with 1 story line not really playable as single episodes. And well they are the best selling game on steam and i'm pretty sure selling well on their site so no point saying that this way wont sell been buying all their games as complete seasons.
I think what everyone is missing here is what happened in the past.. Basically a huge number of people would only buy the first episode..I'm guessing like 85-90% take the first episode if Sam and max as an example now a lot of the reasons these people didn't buy the rest were because of complaints that were eventually fixed in later episodes..people don't realize that telltales best episodes are episode 4 and 5 and that they listen to fan feedback and make each episode better than the next.. It's one of the reasons they gave away abe Lincoln for free.. It's like hey you bought episode 1and not the rest but look how much we improved.. So only offering the season pass is just a really good business decision.. If someone is interested in monkey island get em to buy the whole season..it benefits them but also the customer because they really get to see how this whole episodic model works which is still pretty new to people.
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The 35 bucks are a good investment, even if they decided to take our money and spend the rest of their lives in the carribbean with it the first episode alone would be well worth the money!
Otherwise you could wait until they have released all of them and then decide whether to buy.. then again, who could resist Monkey Island for that long? I know I couldn't..
Anyways, I'm sure you won't regret buying the whole thing!
I completely agree. Not providing this option pretty much kills anything "episodic" about their games. This can especially be said with Tales of Monkey Island where the first part ends in a major cliffhanger and is not a self-contained adventure in any sense of the word. I guess that is why they named it "Chapter 1" instead of "Episode 1" like they have with previous titles.
Honestly at this point they are pretty much demanding that their customers pay now for a product they will receive later and in installments. I don't think this will go down well with most people as there really aren't any other companies out there that think they are special enough to do this.
I honestly find it hard to believe that this business model is helping Telltale either. I have seen a lot of people on forums who wanted to pick this up on Steam come complaining that Telltale is crazy to be charging $34.95 per episode. The concept of paying for a video game in advance only to receive the content in installments is so foreign to most people that they come to the conclusion that each episode is $34.95. I can't imagine how many people have been confused in a similar way and not picked up the game because of it. In fact, I doubt there have been many people who purchased this who weren't fans of the old Monkey Island games and weren't familiar with Telltale. A lot of these people would definitely have jumped on a $8.99 per episode price point, though. I obviously don't have any data to back up my beliefs, but I would be seriously surprised to hear that this new pricing policy is actually helping Telltale rather than hurting them.
That said, the first Chapter of Tales of Monkey Island is fantastic and am eagerly anticipating the upcoming episodes. However, the only reason I bought this is because it is the Monkey Island series which I love. I was interested in buying Wallace and Grommit on Steam months ago, but I didn't want to pay for the entire season for a game I wasn't sure about (this was before I knew you could buy individual episodes via Telltale's website). I have since played through the first episode of W&G that I received with my Tales of Monkey Island purchase and went on to buy the rest of the season which is something I wouldn't have done without that first taste (the demo really wasn't enough to make a decision).
All telltale games, including ToMI are readily available on torrent sites. If people don't want to pay $35 dollars up front then they will inevitably go download the games free, and if they think telltale deserves $35 for the 5 games, they'll buy the season later.
I'm not saying it's necessarily the right thing to do, but I'm betting it's what plenty of people are going to do. Serves telltale right. Stop jerking your customers about and let us buy the games individually.
You just keep winning Best Post awards!
Correct but Telltales would atrract more people to the first episode if they sell it individually. Not all people trust telltales and give $35 for uncomplete game.
Actually, telltale charges $9 per episode. You get a discount for buying the whole season in bulk.
And.... stop complaining, all telltale games were like this at first and then they eventually allowed you to buy them individually.
*I am kicking my a$$ for not getting money onto my PayPal account soon enough to get all the bonus material. Extremely depressed lol!
1. ToMI is a single game divided to five chapters rather than group of separate episodes which form a season, so there's not much point of selling single episodes.
2. LucasArts is involved as partner and owner of the Monkey Island brand, so maybe they wanted that game is sold as single packet rather than episodes. (This is just a wild guess and I have no idea what LucasArts wants).
Having 5 individual games and not sell them individually doesn't make much sense...
The best way in my opinion is to sell only the first episode individually and then if you like it, upgrade. I don't see the reason to have the other episodes for sale since no one is going to start playing from episode 2.
Telltale's "manifest" (if you will) is to provide episodic adventure games. They are going against that with TOMI. This is not an episodic game. It is simply a "pay-now-play-later" type of thing which you will find nowhere else in the video game industry. The way they word it on the TOMI page, using expressions like "the deal" and "get them all" implies that they are seperate entities and the customer is somehow getting a bargain by paying for them all up front even though there is no other method.