Since Trump supporters always say bullshit things like "Why arent ALL the muslims saying sorry for these terrorists attacks!" i guess im goi… moreng to use his supporters logic.
Muslims, Latinos, Women and basically all other people of color, I am sorry that there are some real fucking crazy white men out there. We are not all bad, we do not all have yearly memberships to country clubs and play in competitive golf. I am apologizing on behalf of all white men.
Muslims shouldn't feel the need to apologize nor should I. This Trump logic hurts my brain there's over a billion muslims in this world, people like Trump need to stop painting them all with one brush. I'm not an American but even i'm nervous for the possibility of him being elected. As somebody who's family was slaughtered in Europe for being Jewish and having there entry's into America denied because people in the 1940's were scared they would secretly be Nazi's.. even though my family… [view original content]
Before this portion of the thread gets deleted and the ban hammer comes out, let me just say I'm opposed to it. Outside of the whole freedom of speech debate, these are ideas that are being promoted by Republican presidential candidates - they need to be countered with logic and reason, and shown for the reactionary, hateful rhetoric that it is. (And no, you can't say 'I love it and respect you' in one breath and 'you're an immoral sinner who is going to burn for all eternity.') This isn't somebody screaming slurs in the back of the bus, this kind of talk has become a widely-held belief which numerous policians and media figures attempt to legitimize. The only sustainable hope of fighting against homophobia and bigotry is through debate, not silencing.
And by the way, quoting from the Bible isn't an argument. Sure, you can say 'see Jesus was against homosexuality!' but in a secular society designed to protect minority rights, why should I care what Jesus said if all it is is an assertion? For the sake of arguement, let's say homosexuality is a choice - guess what? What gay people do with other gay people is their choice, not yours. You have a right to your religion, you have a right to decry sexuality all you want. What you don't have a right to do is stop people from declaring each other next of kin. What you don't have the right to do is stop people from hospital visitation. What you don't have the right to do is stop people who have the financial and emotional availability to take care of children from doing so.
If only the people abides the law, the problem wouldn't even exist in the first place.
I feel like the problems of a country is always blamed on the Government, and not the people themselves. Obviously no one likes to be blamed, so we try and put the blame on others.
If only the people abides the law, the problem wouldn't even exist in the first place.
I feel like the problems of a country is always bl… moreamed on the Government, and not the people themselves. Obviously no one likes to be blamed, so we try and put the blame on others.
Please..don't be like that. Not allowing millions of Muslim people to go to USA just because they are Muslim is WRONG.
So you are a Christian, so am I if it helps this case at all, and you are supposed to love your neighbours, your enemies, it is difficult but as a follower of Jesus that is important. And what if somebody is gay? I can't think of a reason why same-sex marriage should be illegal or something.
Like I said I don't know who he is or what he represent since I'm not that interested in inner working of USA democracy. I just wanted to point out that for example theads about terrorism are getting shut down due to the famed disrespect but this one is still going on without even a warning to keep things civil.
Tell me something. On one side of the coin, you have a person who unfairly gets accused of something another has done and gets spat upon and… more on a day to day basis ridiculed for their race. On the other side you have a billionaire who unfairly treats many people around him like dirt and acts like his shit don't stink, and discriminates many people over some people who did the bad deeds. So, who deserves the backlash? The one who doesn't unfairly attack others or the one who unfairly attacks others?
There are people who deserves backlash and those who don't, the actions and words that are inflicted upon will give some weight to the one who truly deserves it. Think long and hard about that.
If the mods wants to close this thread down, then that's their choice to make. And I've made my choice to not like a man who unfairly treats many people like crap (Also Obama never done anything to piss me off from what I'm aware of).
This is why we need glorious Marxist-Leninist-Maoist-Sanderist proletarian revolution. Reactionaries like Trump will crumple like paper tigers under the weight of the peoples' hammer!
EDIT: Added IRL photo of glorious Comrade Sanders!
This is why we need glorious Marxist-Leninist-Maoist-Sanderist proletarian revolution. Reactionaries like Trump will crumple like paper tigers under the weight of the peoples' hammer!
EDIT: Added IRL photo of glorious Comrade Sanders!
This is why we need glorious Marxist-Leninist-Maoist-Sanderist proletarian revolution. Reactionaries like Trump will crumple like paper tigers under the weight of the peoples' hammer!
EDIT: Added IRL photo of glorious Comrade Sanders!
Oh, that...He must've had it tough! Sounds like he's a bootstraps kind of guy.
The "self-made man" myth that the right perpetuates is just that, a myth. Most rich people start rich, or at least comfortably middle-class. It's simple economics; the more money you start with, the less severe the risk you expose yourself to by investing capital.
This is why we need glorious Marxist-Leninist-Maoist-Sanderist proletarian revolution. Reactionaries like Trump will crumple like paper tigers under the weight of the peoples' hammer!
EDIT: Added IRL photo of glorious Comrade Sanders!
For a people who preach and promote tolerance and openness and basically ban hate speech I see a lot of hate and intolerance here. Also I do… moren't see Mods coming down on this thread because of obvious lack of repsect for that person, whoever he is. I wonder if someone made an Obama is an A******* the things would be the same....
This is why we need glorious Marxist-Leninist-Maoist-Sanderist proletarian revolution. Reactionaries like Trump will crumple like paper tigers under the weight of the peoples' hammer!
EDIT: Added IRL photo of glorious Comrade Sanders!
Maybe check your logic when using Iran as an example of all islam in the world, its not. Iranian problems are not islamic problems, they are Iranian problems. Indonesia has the largest muslim population, India has a big Muslim population, Turkey has a big Muslim population yet they are not facing the same womans rights issues as Iran.
You have 1st worlders "democrats" sticking up for them all the while beheading Westerner's as they see fit.
ISIS is not representative of Islam! Thats like saying the KKK is representative of Christianity (they're not). They are radicals who you yes you are helping right now by demonizing over a billion people. And if you are considering using Saudi Arabia as a behind excuse Saudi Arabia has never beheaded a Westerner, but what they must and will be condoned and most Muslims are condoning. Sorry if you cant use logic.
yes i sadly read that toilet paper you call a Qur'an
As someone who is not Muslim, I get it. You see the negative things in the Qur'an that are horrible and you instantly thing all muslims are bad people too, but the Qur'an does have many positive things in it also so understand how many muslims look at it from that perspective. And its the same with the bible, there are many good parts, and many bad parts. Does that mean all Christians should be demonized, no it does not. You claim to be stating Iran is like a 3rd century BC country but yet you plan to make your country no better by banning religions.
Maybe check your logic when using Iran as an example of all islam in the world, its not. Iranian problems are not islamic problems, they are… more Iranian problems. Indonesia has the largest muslim population, India has a big Muslim population, Turkey has a big Muslim population yet they are not facing the same womans rights issues as Iran.
You have 1st worlders "democrats" sticking up for them all the while beheading Westerner's as they see fit.
ISIS is not representative of Islam! Thats like saying the KKK is representative of Christianity (they're not). They are radicals who you yes you are helping right now by demonizing over a billion people. And if you are considering using Saudi Arabia as a behind excuse Saudi Arabia has never beheaded a Westerner, but what they must and will be condoned and most Muslims are condoning. Sorry if you cant use logic.
yes i sadly read that toilet paper you call a Qur'an
As someone who… [view original content]
This is why we need glorious Marxist-Leninist-Maoist-Sanderist proletarian revolution. Reactionaries like Trump will crumple like paper tigers under the weight of the peoples' hammer!
EDIT: Added IRL photo of glorious Comrade Sanders!
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Those who fail to learn from the mistakes of their predecessors are doomed to repeat them.
Before this portion of the thread gets deleted and the ban hammer comes out, let me just say I'm opposed to it. Outside of the whole freedom of speech debate, these are ideas that are being promoted by Republican presidential candidates - they need to be countered with logic and reason, and shown for the reactionary, hateful rhetoric that it is. (And no, you can't say 'I love it and respect you' in one breath and 'you're an immoral sinner who is going to burn for all eternity.') This isn't somebody screaming slurs in the back of the bus, this kind of talk has become a widely-held belief which numerous policians and media figures attempt to legitimize. The only sustainable hope of fighting against homophobia and bigotry is through debate, not silencing.
And by the way, quoting from the Bible isn't an argument. Sure, you can say 'see Jesus was against homosexuality!' but in a secular society designed to protect minority rights, why should I care what Jesus said if all it is is an assertion? For the sake of arguement, let's say homosexuality is a choice - guess what? What gay people do with other gay people is their choice, not yours. You have a right to your religion, you have a right to decry sexuality all you want. What you don't have a right to do is stop people from declaring each other next of kin. What you don't have the right to do is stop people from hospital visitation. What you don't have the right to do is stop people who have the financial and emotional availability to take care of children from doing so.
If only the people abides the law, the problem wouldn't even exist in the first place.
I feel like the problems of a country is always blamed on the Government, and not the people themselves. Obviously no one likes to be blamed, so we try and put the blame on others.
Exactly my thought
Please..don't be like that. Not allowing millions of Muslim people to go to USA just because they are Muslim is WRONG.
So you are a Christian, so am I if it helps this case at all, and you are supposed to love your neighbours, your enemies, it is difficult but as a follower of Jesus that is important. And what if somebody is gay? I can't think of a reason why same-sex marriage should be illegal or something.
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It is a logical contradiction.
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Yep.
Like I said I don't know who he is or what he represent since I'm not that interested in inner working of USA democracy. I just wanted to point out that for example theads about terrorism are getting shut down due to the famed disrespect but this one is still going on without even a warning to keep things civil.
Just wanted to point the double standards here.
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This is why we need glorious Marxist-Leninist-Maoist-Sanderist proletarian revolution. Reactionaries like Trump will crumple like paper tigers under the weight of the peoples' hammer!
EDIT: Added IRL photo of glorious Comrade Sanders!
Not even sure if that's sarcasm or not.
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Oh, that...He must've had it tough! Sounds like he's a bootstraps kind of guy.
The "self-made man" myth that the right perpetuates is just that, a myth. Most rich people start rich, or at least comfortably middle-class. It's simple economics; the more money you start with, the less severe the risk you expose yourself to by investing capital.
Sarcasm. I am a Bernie Sanders (hence: Sanderist) supporter though.
I just like using communist rhetoric to freak people out. Especially old people.
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I kno your kidding but nothing could be worse than that or a 1 world caliphate.
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I'm kidding, but I do hold socialist views.
Maybe check your logic when using Iran as an example of all islam in the world, its not. Iranian problems are not islamic problems, they are Iranian problems. Indonesia has the largest muslim population, India has a big Muslim population, Turkey has a big Muslim population yet they are not facing the same womans rights issues as Iran.
ISIS is not representative of Islam! Thats like saying the KKK is representative of Christianity (they're not). They are radicals who you yes you are helping right now by demonizing over a billion people. And if you are considering using Saudi Arabia as a behind excuse Saudi Arabia has never beheaded a Westerner, but what they must and will be condoned and most Muslims are condoning. Sorry if you cant use logic.
As someone who is not Muslim, I get it. You see the negative things in the Qur'an that are horrible and you instantly thing all muslims are bad people too, but the Qur'an does have many positive things in it also so understand how many muslims look at it from that perspective. And its the same with the bible, there are many good parts, and many bad parts. Does that mean all Christians should be demonized, no it does not. You claim to be stating Iran is like a 3rd century BC country but yet you plan to make your country no better by banning religions.
I think this guy is beyond convincing. Thread's probably getting locked now, regardless.
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Yep, that Thread Mjölnir looks feisty today.
Yeah just reading through this page is enough.