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Snapping?

hplikelikehplikelike
edited October 2009 in Tales of Monkey Island
Did anyone else realize an unusual amount of snapping in ToMI? It's like the developers spent a week working on getting the characters to snap, then, when it finally worked, decided to milk it for all the hard work they put into it. [just a theory. Your's?]

I'm not annoyed by it, but it certainly stands out.
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  • hansschmuckerhansschmucker
    edited July 2009
    Not sure what you mean by snapping... do you mean the characters automatically returning to their previous position after another animation has played? I only ever really noticed it on the glassblowing pirate.
  • IrishmileIrishmile
    edited July 2009
    I didn't even notice it
  • lawrenceklawrencek
    edited July 2009
    I know what you mean hplikelike. I didn't mind it, but I remember seeing the newspaper editor and the man with power pirate toys (Sorry, not good with names yet!) do it. Did every other character do it?
  • light_riseslight_rises
    edited July 2009
    Haha, I definitely noticed it. ^^ I'm pretty sure the snapping is a stock animation "gesture" that's being applied to the characters through the Telltale Tool. If you've played Telltale's Sam & Max games, you may have noticed that all the characters have individual sets of gestures they'll repeat periodically which are unique to him/her. TMI seems to be a bit different in that the "snapping" is something almost all the people on Flotsam do, as opposed to just one of them.
  • NimeniNimeni
    edited July 2009
    I noticed it. I'm not sure its significant, but I do remember thinking, "why do they keep snapping while they talk?" I understand one character snapping to emphasize points, but that many was just confusing. It must be part of the Flotsam dialect. j/k
  • hplikelikehplikelike
    edited July 2009
    lawrencek wrote: »
    I know what you mean hplikelike. I didn't mind it, but I remember seeing the newspaper editor and the man with power pirate toys (Sorry, not good with names yet!) do it. Did every other character do it?

    Guybrush does it a few times

    {I mean the finger snapping. verb. as in "I got a great idea! I'll show it with a snap"}
  • lawrenceklawrencek
    edited July 2009
    Oh, never even thought of that haha! Well, I guess snapping is better then them standing around as stiff as a board huh? A little variety wouldn't hurt, but then I've never done 3D animation before, so I'd have no idea how in depth that could get!
  • JakeJake Telltale Alumni
    edited July 2009
    Those guys love snapping too much, probably. Hopefully that fad will pass in the later episodes.
  • EduardoEduardo
    edited July 2009
    Yes, I noticed.

    I almost wonder if it was a part of the Pox... ;)
  • hplikelikehplikelike
    edited July 2009
    I think the joke where Guybrush tries to snap with his evil hand would have been funnier if everyone else was snapping right before he tried.
  • coolsomecoolsome
    edited July 2009
    I hope this isnt the bigging of snap kombat
  • hplikelikehplikelike
    edited July 2009
    Sailorcuteness wrote: »
    I hope this isnt the bigging of snap kombat

    Nah, probably the QUEST FOR THE ULTIMATE SNAP. It requires a ton of legendary fingers.
  • coolsomecoolsome
    edited July 2009
    hplikelike wrote: »
    Nah, probably the QUEST FOR THE ULTIMATE SNAP. It requires a ton of legendary fingers.


    theres a few we can use on the flotsum wind idol
  • Edgy_McSpoonEdgy_McSpoon
    edited July 2009
    Perhaps it's a secret code that when you play all the snap animations together, you get a morris code explaining the whole plot.

    I didn't notice the snapping myself, but I do agree that any ambiguous (animated) statement, no matter how effective it is in a moment, can get monotonous after seeing it many times. They're kinda like chase scenes: if that's all a movie has and no story, then are they truly effective, or just confusing? If you're all snap and none of that, then what are you really saying?
  • IrishmileIrishmile
    edited July 2009
    Hmmm now that I think about it...... I think I might snap a lot for no reason.... Maybe that is why I didn't notice
  • coolsomecoolsome
    edited July 2009
    Irishmile wrote: »
    Hmmm now that I think about it...... I think I might snap a lot for no reason.... Maybe that is why I didn't notice

    I cant stop doing it now
  • IrishmileIrishmile
    edited July 2009
    I wont stop
  • MusicallyInspiredMusicallyInspired
    edited July 2009
    I noticed that the newspaper guy snapped a lot, but I didn't notice anybody else.
  • ShoelipShoelip
    edited July 2009
    hplikelike: I think you just affected the course of the game's development. Also, how do you pronounce your name?
  • hplikelikehplikelike
    edited July 2009
    Shoelip wrote: »
    hplikelike: I think you just affected the course of the game's development. Also, how do you pronounce your name?

    H P like-like. I made it when I was younger. It's a combination of Harry Potter and the likelike enemy from the Legend of Zelda. Just curious, why did you ask how it was pronounced? Technically, on a forum, someone could have the username {:c)+</: despite the fact it's impossible to pronounce.
  • Armand1880Armand1880
    edited July 2009
    When the newspaper guy, Nipperkin, snapped, I thought it went with his character.
    Then all the other "Nipperkin Look-a-likes" started snapping, and I realized it was just a stock animation in the character model.
  • IrishmileIrishmile
    edited July 2009
    Im pro snapping I think the whole game should be snapping in morse code In fact.

    .. -. / ..-. .- -.-. - / .. / .- -- / --. --- .. -. --. / - --- / - -.-- .--. . / .. -. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. . / ..-. .-. --- -- / -. --- .-- / --- -. / .... --- .-- / .- -... --- ..- - / -.-- --- ..-
  • coolsomecoolsome
    edited July 2009
    Armand1880 wrote: »
    When the newspaper guy, Nipperkin, snapped, I thought it went with his character.
    Then all the other "Nipperkin Look-a-likes" started snapping, and I realized it was just a stock animation in the character model.


    darn you stock *shake fist*
  • QwazinQwazin
    edited July 2009
    While on the topic of emotes and movements from the characters, I think the animations in general could use a bit of work. Maybe it's because I'm an oldschool CMI fan, but I gotta say I'm no big fan of the "raise eyebrow and give 'em some 'tude" animations. I always thought especially Guybrushes' lines came off funnier when he looked completely neutral and expressionless. He seemed more bitter and sceptical about his whole situation then. TMI's expressions sometimes seem too over the top and "cool/hip" to really fit the Monkey Island style.
  • ShaleShale
    edited July 2009
    Guybrush was ticked off when he couldn't snap his fingers after washing ashore on Flotsam, and is making up for lost time. His zeal in doing so started a fad amongst the Flotsam population, who think that's just the piratey style of the time in the world at large.
  • Rather DashingRather Dashing
    edited July 2009
    Qwazin wrote: »
    While on the topic of emotes and movements from the characters, I think the animations in general could use a bit of work. Maybe it's because I'm an oldschool CMI fan, but I gotta say I'm no big fan of the "raise eyebrow and give 'em some 'tude" animations. I always thought especially Guybrushes' lines came off funnier when he looked completely neutral and expressionless. He seemed more bitter and sceptical about his whole situation then. TMI's expressions sometimes seem too over the top and "cool/hip" to really fit the Monkey Island style.
    Huh. I love the facial animations. You can get away with it when you're a sprite, but I felt like the Guybrush in Curse was FAR too expressionless, the few facial animations being a delight.

    It wasn't a stylistic decision to have him give off all the emotional expression of a log. It was a technical limitation.
  • anthalontanthalont
    edited July 2009
    I liked the facial expressions in chapter1 but I do noticed this snapping also. Guybrush does it several times also :)
  • LeakLeak
    edited July 2009
    So it's official - Guybrush finally has snapped.

    Not that I can blame the guy after those five games - particularily the fifth one... :D

    np: Tosca - Chocolate Elvis (Bullitnuts Version 2) (The Chocolate Elvis Dubs)
  • hplikelikehplikelike
    edited July 2009
    Shale wrote: »
    Guybrush was ticked off when he couldn't snap his fingers after washing ashore on Flotsam, and is making up for lost time. His zeal in doing so started a fad amongst the Flotsam population, who think that's just the piratey style of the time in the world at large.

    I like this theory. :D
  • corruptbigginscorruptbiggins
    edited July 2009
    Just been playing Sam & Max season 2 (specifically episodes 4 & 5) and I've noticed a fair amount of finger snaps from them both.
  • pilouuuupilouuuu
    edited July 2009
    Rather Dashing wrote: »
    Huh. I love the facial animations. You can get away with it when you're a sprite, but I felt like the Guybrush in Curse was FAR too expressionless, the few facial animations being a delight.

    It wasn't a stylistic decision to have him give off all the emotional expression of a log. It was a technical limitation.

    I also love the facial and physical animations! I even liked snapping even if I haven't noticed it too much in the game as you, guys. Please give us snap insult fighting in a new chapter!

    Even if Guybrush was pretty unexpressive in the first game, it has been much enhanced in LeChuck's Revenge. I found so funny when Guybrush had his eyes wide open in surprise when the skeletons started dancing. Ans yes, while COMI is pretty amazing graphically with its hand painted backdrops, I agree that animation could be even better.
  • LuigiHannLuigiHann
    edited July 2009
    Maybe each island in the game will have a gesture-sound associated with it (clapping, knee-slapping, etc) and that will form the basis of a puzzle in the last episode
  • ShoelipShoelip
    edited July 2009
    hplikelike wrote: »
    H P like-like. I made it when I was younger. It's a combination of Harry Potter and the likelike enemy from the Legend of Zelda. Just curious, why did you ask how it was pronounced? Technically, on a forum, someone could have the username {:c)+</: despite the fact it's impossible to pronounce.

    Like like is the name of a road on Oahu that mainlanders always mispronounce. They pronounce it like your screen name. Just curious.
  • QwazinQwazin
    edited July 2009
    I don't mind him actually making expressions, I just don't like some of those that are in TMI. They're way too exagurated and "cool". I thought CMI's animation was perfect, and even if it was limited it had expressions that were pleasing to look at. What I'm trying to say is...

    ;= J

    I can't stand raised eyebrows in every single peice of kids-related media I see nowdays
  • guitarsareboringguitarsareboring
    edited July 2009
    I definitely noticed it but I got used to it pretty quickly
  • hplikelikehplikelike
    edited July 2009
    LuigiHann wrote: »
    Maybe each island in the game will have a gesture-sound associated with it (clapping, knee-slapping, etc) and that will form the basis of a puzzle in the last episode

    But what about the poor people who only bought the last episode because the monkey in their pocket stole all their change and that's all that they could afford.
  • SHODANFreemanSHODANFreeman
    edited July 2009
    Irishmile wrote: »
    .. -. / ..-. .- -.-. - / .. / .- -- / --. --- .. -. --. / - --- / - -.-- .--. . / .. -. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. . / ..-. .-. --- -- / -. --- .-- / --- -. / .... --- .-- / .- -... --- ..- - / -.-- --- ..-

    -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. . / ..-. --- .-. / - .... . / .-- .. -.
  • priznaprizna
    edited July 2009
    pale man wrote: »
    -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. . / ..-. --- .-. / - .... . / .-- .. -.

    -.-. .- -. / ... --- -- . --- -. . / .--. .-.. . .- ... . / - . .-.. .-.. / -- . / .... --- .-- / - --- / .-. .. --. .... - / .. -. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. . --..-- / .. / .... .- ...- . / .- -... ... --- .-.. ..- - . .-.. -.-- / -. --- / .. -.. . .- / .... --- .-- / - --- / .-- .-. .. - . / .. -. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. .
  • Super BoscoSuper Bosco
    edited July 2009
    Yeah, I commented this on another thread. It happens 3 times when Guybrush gets on the first island. I thought it was strange
  • Crono3Crono3
    edited July 2009
    LOL, glad I'm not the only one who noticed that! I thought it was hilarious. :)
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