Do you mean me? I said it because I think, if they wanted us to gain a stronger bond with the baby, the baby should have been Christa's as opposed to Rebecca's.
The screw-up happened in "Amid The Ruins," supposedly.
Vitali is the leader of the ambush—he fires his assault rifle in our general direction after one of our people shoots a pistol, has an episode of ammunition-wasting with Kenny, and is then killed by Jane.
Buricko is the man with the shotgun, that aims at Mike—he is shot in the leg amidst the crossfire and killed by Kenny.
There is something that doesn't make sense, though. I am fairly sure it was confirmed that the "Amid The Ruins" team was the one that made the modeling mistake, meaning that episode four Vitali was meant to be Buricko and episode four Buricko was meant to be Vitali. If this is the case, why would Arvo scream at Buricko to lay off of our group if Vitali is the one threatening to attempt to kill us?
I had talked to Blind Sniper about the potential creation of this thread before creating the poll. After witnessing the results, I manifested concern over who would create the thread, since said person's feed would explode daily, and he said he could do so with his alternate account @NoSoBlindGuy closer to the release of A New Frontier.
I know, right? It's like they noticed the screwup and instead of actually fixing it, they had the lines rerecorded to fit better.
...Unless Vitali(the leader) was actually meant to calm down a bit when he noticed the baby and Buricko(Mr. Shotgun) was the main one insisting that they keep antagonizing the group. Which, unless Arvo refers to Buricko by name while actually onscreen at one point, could still work.
EDIT: And the plot thickens!
Also, I rewatched that cutscene and while Arvo never directly refers to Buricko while on screen, Vitali and Natasha can be heard speaking Russian in the background and trying to get him to back off as well and, as if there wasn't enough confusion already, Natasha can also be heard suddenly slipping into "unused" English when the final choice with Rebecca comes up.
The screw-up happened in "Amid The Ruins," supposedly.
Vitali is the leader of the ambush—he fires his assault rifle in our general direc… moretion after one of our people shoots a pistol, has an episode of ammunition-wasting with Kenny, and is then killed by Jane.
Buricko is the man with the shotgun, that aims at Mike—he is shot in the leg amidst the crossfire and killed by Kenny.
There is something that doesn't make sense, though. I am fairly sure it was confirmed that the "Amid The Ruins" team was the one that made the modeling mistake, meaning that episode four Vitali was meant to be Buricko and episode four Buricko was meant to be Vitali. If this is the case, why would Arvo scream at Buricko to lay off of our group if Vitali is the one threatening to attempt to kill us?
Awesomely!
I had talked to Blind Sniper about the potential creation of this thread before creating the poll. After witnessing the result… mores, I manifested concern over who would create the thread, since said person's feed would explode daily, and he said he could do so with his alternate account @NoSoBlindGuy closer to the release of A New Frontier.
Wait! Oh my God, do you realize what this means? Doom!
Buricko is indeed the man who leads the ambush, carries the assault rifle, has an ammo fest with Kenny and is killed by Jane—because Buricko is the man in the green jacket and not in the beige parka! Vitali is the big bulky man who carries the shotgun and tags along and is killed by Kenny.
The fandom has had the names mixed up all along, similar to what @Deltino discovered a while ago with Bennett and Clyde.
I don't know how I'm gonna deal with this.
Looking at Vitali, and then remembering that he is Buricko.
I know, right? It's like they noticed the screwup and instead of actually fixing it, they had the lines rerecorded to fit better.
...Unle… moress Vitali(the leader) was actually meant to calm down a bit when he noticed the baby and Buricko(Mr. Shotgun) was the main one insisting that they keep antagonizing the group. Which, unless Arvo refers to Buricko by name while actually onscreen at one point, could still work.
EDIT: And the plot thickens!
Also, I rewatched that cutscene and while Arvo never directly refers to Buricko while on screen, Vitali and Natasha can be heard speaking Russian in the background and trying to get him to back off as well and, as if there wasn't enough confusion already, Natasha can also be heard suddenly slipping into "unused" English when the final choice with Rebecca comes up.
Big bald dude's model is Buricko in the game files, the other guy with the super receding hairline is Vitali. And that's carried over into the textures for episode 5. The stabbed texture is still for Vitali. The headshot textures for both of them are appropriately named, as well.
With Bennett/Clyde, their models (and textures, including wounds) are appropriately named in the files.
Someone just screwed up majorly with the Vitali/Buricko thing. I'm not sure what happened, but somewhere along the line, shit just got fucked.
And for what it's worth, there is technically a line where Arvo refers to Buricko.
If you try to bargain with Arvo ("Maybe there's something you want"), it leads to the bald russian saying to take everything, which Arvo follows up by saying "We are not here to make deals, Clementine. Buricko is saying we will take everything."
I think that's a pretty clear indication that the bald guy is Buricko, given he's the only one that talks during that specific exchange, and he actually said what Arvo said he did.
Wait! Oh my God, do you realize what this means? Doom!
Buricko is indeed the man who leads the ambush, carries the assault rifle, has an … moreammo fest with Kenny and is killed by Jane—because Buricko is the man in the green jacket and not in the beige parka! Vitali is the big bulky man who carries the shotgun and tags along and is killed by Kenny.
The fandom has had the names mixed up all along, similar to what @Deltino discovered a while ago with Bennett and Clyde.
I don't know how I'm gonna deal with this.
Looking at Vitali, and then remembering that he is Buricko.
Holy fucking shit.
This is some deep shit.
I don't think so
Big bald dude's model is Buricko in the game files, the other guy with the super receding hairline is Vitali. And that's… more carried over into the textures for episode 5. The stabbed texture is still for Vitali. The headshot textures for both of them are appropriately named, as well.
With Bennett/Clyde, their models (and textures, including wounds) are appropriately named in the files.
Someone just screwed up majorly with the Vitali/Buricko thing. I'm not sure what happened, but somewhere along the line, shit just got fucked.
And for what it's worth, there is technically a line where Arvo refers to Buricko.
If you try to bargain with Arvo ("Maybe there's something you want"), it leads to the bald russian saying to take everything, which Arvo follows up by saying "We are not here to make deals, Clementine. Buricko is saying we will take everything."
I think that's a pretty clear indication that the bald guy is Bu… [view original content]
Someone just screwed up majorly with the Vitali/Buricko thing. I'm not sure what happened, but somewhere along the line, shit just got fucked.
Well, that's one way of putting it. What a mess.
I still think it would make much more sense from a dramatic standpoint for Jane to stab Buricko since he was the one who decided to rob the group and started the gunfight in reply to Clementine/Kenny shooting Rebecca, but whatever. I guess having her stab Vitali the crazy one to help Kenny is symbolic or something.
I don't think so
Big bald dude's model is Buricko in the game files, the other guy with the super receding hairline is Vitali. And that's… more carried over into the textures for episode 5. The stabbed texture is still for Vitali. The headshot textures for both of them are appropriately named, as well.
With Bennett/Clyde, their models (and textures, including wounds) are appropriately named in the files.
Someone just screwed up majorly with the Vitali/Buricko thing. I'm not sure what happened, but somewhere along the line, shit just got fucked.
And for what it's worth, there is technically a line where Arvo refers to Buricko.
If you try to bargain with Arvo ("Maybe there's something you want"), it leads to the bald russian saying to take everything, which Arvo follows up by saying "We are not here to make deals, Clementine. Buricko is saying we will take everything."
I think that's a pretty clear indication that the bald guy is Bu… [view original content]
I'm pretty sure that was on purpose, just to show that Hershel's a bit forgetful. Some people are like that, always having a slip of the tongue; calling someone by the wrong name, etc.
He does it again after Shawn dies, although that one's justified since his son just died. He wouldn't be thinking straight.
Why did Hershel still refer to Clementine as Lee's daughter after he was told that Lee is either a babysitter, neighbor, or just some guy? T… morehat has always bugged me since I first played the episode. Was it just bad editing on Telltale's part, or was it a way of ingraining into us that we are Clem's surrogate father?
I'm pretty sure that was on purpose, just to show that Hershel's a bit forgetful. Some people are like that, always having a slip of the ton… moregue; calling someone by the wrong name, etc.
He does it again after Shawn dies, although that one's justified since his son just died. He wouldn't be thinking straight.
What do you mean? I think they always become a walker unless someone kills them with a fatal injury to the brain or they can amputate the area quickly.
When the get bitten, the saliva from the walker gets into the blood stream. The saliva has some kind of virus/bacteria that gives the host a killer fever that always kills the host. Then, once you die, you turn. It's not the bite that turns you, it just kills you. You turn when you die regardless if you're bit or not. The bite just finishes step one.
Season 3 starts right where the comics are now. The timelines are caught up. Fun fact: Clementine is actually older than Carl in the comics. So if we see him in the game (we probably won') Clementine will be a year older than Carl.
Okay, let me be clearer about this because I already know that much: What exactly happens to the people who turn in walkers? As in, their consciousness?
When the person becomes a walker only the parts of their brain that controls senses, motor skills and instinct re-animate. The parts that allow a person to recall memories or to have emotions remain dead. The "human" part of the brain remains dead so the walker is more like an animal operating on survival instinct: hunger.
Okay, let me be clearer about this because I already know that much: What exactly happens to the people who turn in walkers? As in, their consciousness?
Hmm. Okay, that much I was a little fuzzy about, so thanks.
But I was more referring to the metaphysical/spiritual connotations of their body re-animating into a walker. Does the person who turns(for example, Lee, Mark, Nick, or Rebecca) move on to Heaven/RottenWorld/wherever or is this a roboticizer situation?
When the person becomes a walker only the parts of their brain that controls senses, motor skills and instinct re-animate. The parts that al… morelow a person to recall memories or to have emotions remain dead. The "human" part of the brain remains dead so the walker is more like an animal operating on survival instinct: hunger.
I have noticed that a lot of the discussions on this forum get derailed by Kenny and Jane arguments and criticisms of the second season. What if there were a thread to discuss what people like about the games, characters, and the TWD universe and making negative comments were not allowed?
Did you watch the TWD series on television? The villain called the governor was researching that. He was interested in seeing if any part of the human aspect ...memory, emotion, sentience ...could be triggered once someone turned. The results were not promising so I guess the "soul" goes wherever you think it does based on your faith or atheism.
Hmm. Okay, that much I was a little fuzzy about, so thanks.
But I was more referring to the metaphysical/spiritual connotations of their … morebody re-animating into a walker. Does the person who turns(for example, Lee, Mark, Nick, or Rebecca) move on to Heaven/RottenWorld/wherever or is this a roboticizer situation?
I have noticed that a lot of the discussions on this forum get derailed by Kenny and Jane arguments and criticisms of the second season. Wha… moret if there were a thread to discuss what people like about the games, characters, and the TWD universe and making negative comments were not allowed?
Did you watch the TWD series on television? The villain called the governor was researching that. He was interested in seeing if any part of… more the human aspect ...memory, emotion, sentience ...could be triggered once someone turned. The results were not promising so I guess the "soul" goes wherever you think it does based on your faith or atheism.
Season 3 starts right where the comics are now. The timelines are caught up. Fun fact: Clementine is actually older than Carl in the comics. So if we see him in the game (we probably won') Clementine will be a year older than Carl.
Sam is either the cenator he killed, or his wife (assuming her name is Samantha [I think I once heard her name was Samantha] [also no no the same Samanthat from the Michonne MiniSeries]).
I was listening to some unused voice clips trying to find this line where Larry survives and I kept hearing Katjaa/Jolene/whoever bring up that Lee killed Sam.
Sam is either the cenator he killed, or his wife (assuming her name is Samantha [I think I once heard her name was Samantha] [also no no the same Samanthat from the Michonne MiniSeries]).
Where did you hear that? Sound interesting.
Not an actual question but I want a second opinion on this. When Clementine gets Sarah out of the trailer and hands her her glasses, Sarah looks at Clementine for a moment before putting them on--and then she gives her this...look. What did you think this meant?
I was listening to some unused voice clips trying to find this line where Larry survives and I kept hearing Katjaa/Jolene/whoever bring up that Lee killed Sam.
Hmm. Okay, that much I was a little fuzzy about, so thanks.
But I was more referring to the metaphysical/spiritual connotations of their … morebody re-animating into a walker. Does the person who turns(for example, Lee, Mark, Nick, or Rebecca) move on to Heaven/RottenWorld/wherever or is this a roboticizer situation?
Well, to be honest, it could be argued that Jane never specifically said she saw Jaime's death or what was left of her, so it could very well be possible that Jaime survived, but never got back into contact with Jane, who just went on her life believing her sister to be deceased. Now, in my personal opinion, I'd say she's as dead as a doornail, but really, it's unknown since we never actually saw it.
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Not you specifically, as I'm pretty sure that saw that sentiment echoed several times in other places.
True, though there is one or two little loose ends that could prove akward.
For that matter, has anyone actually played it.
The screw-up happened in "Amid The Ruins," supposedly.
Vitali is the leader of the ambush—he fires his assault rifle in our general direction after one of our people shoots a pistol, has an episode of ammunition-wasting with Kenny, and is then killed by Jane.
Buricko is the man with the shotgun, that aims at Mike—he is shot in the leg amidst the crossfire and killed by Kenny.
There is something that doesn't make sense, though. I am fairly sure it was confirmed that the "Amid The Ruins" team was the one that made the modeling mistake, meaning that episode four Vitali was meant to be Buricko and episode four Buricko was meant to be Vitali. If this is the case, why would Arvo scream at Buricko to lay off of our group if Vitali is the one threatening to attempt to kill us?
Awesomely!
I had talked to Blind Sniper about the potential creation of this thread before creating the poll. After witnessing the results, I manifested concern over who would create the thread, since said person's feed would explode daily, and he said he could do so with his alternate account @NoSoBlindGuy closer to the release of A New Frontier.
I know, right? It's like they noticed the screwup and instead of actually fixing it, they had the lines rerecorded to fit better.
...Unless Vitali(the leader) was actually meant to calm down a bit when he noticed the baby and Buricko(Mr. Shotgun) was the main one insisting that they keep antagonizing the group. Which, unless Arvo refers to Buricko by name while actually onscreen at one point, could still work.
EDIT: And the plot thickens!
Also, I rewatched that cutscene and while Arvo never directly refers to Buricko while on screen, Vitali and Natasha can be heard speaking Russian in the background and trying to get him to back off as well and, as if there wasn't enough confusion already, Natasha can also be heard suddenly slipping into "unused" English when the final choice with Rebecca comes up.
Cool!
Wait! Oh my God, do you realize what this means? Doom!
Buricko is indeed the man who leads the ambush, carries the assault rifle, has an ammo fest with Kenny and is killed by Jane—because Buricko is the man in the green jacket and not in the beige parka! Vitali is the big bulky man who carries the shotgun and tags along and is killed by Kenny.
The fandom has had the names mixed up all along, similar to what @Deltino discovered a while ago with Bennett and Clyde.
I don't know how I'm gonna deal with this.
Looking at Vitali, and then remembering that he is Buricko.
Holy fucking shit.
This is some deep shit.
I don't think so
Big bald dude's model is Buricko in the game files, the other guy with the super receding hairline is Vitali. And that's carried over into the textures for episode 5. The stabbed texture is still for Vitali. The headshot textures for both of them are appropriately named, as well.
With Bennett/Clyde, their models (and textures, including wounds) are appropriately named in the files.
Someone just screwed up majorly with the Vitali/Buricko thing. I'm not sure what happened, but somewhere along the line, shit just got fucked.
And for what it's worth, there is technically a line where Arvo refers to Buricko.
If you try to bargain with Arvo ("Maybe there's something you want"), it leads to the bald russian saying to take everything, which Arvo follows up by saying "We are not here to make deals, Clementine. Buricko is saying we will take everything."
I think that's a pretty clear indication that the bald guy is Buricko, given he's the only one that talks during that specific exchange, and he actually said what Arvo said he did.
Oh, that's right! Thank you for the information!
At this point, I am entirely lost, then.
Well, that's one way of putting it. What a mess.
I still think it would make much more sense from a dramatic standpoint for Jane to stab Buricko since he was the one who decided to rob the group and started the gunfight in reply to Clementine/Kenny shooting Rebecca, but whatever. I guess having her stab Vitali the crazy one to help Kenny is symbolic or something.
Would a topic on the Shades of Conflict be too niche?
I'm pretty sure that was on purpose, just to show that Hershel's a bit forgetful. Some people are like that, always having a slip of the tongue; calling someone by the wrong name, etc.
He does it again after Shawn dies, although that one's justified since his son just died. He wouldn't be thinking straight.
We could write a long list about Gregory's.
How far into the comics will season 3 start? I stopped reading the comics around issue 130.
I know I asked this general question before but: What exactly happens to the people who get bitten and/or pass away and turn?
Hi. Would people be interested in a positive opinion thread?
What do you mean? I think they always become a walker unless someone kills them with a fatal injury to the brain or they can amputate the area quickly.
When the get bitten, the saliva from the walker gets into the blood stream. The saliva has some kind of virus/bacteria that gives the host a killer fever that always kills the host. Then, once you die, you turn. It's not the bite that turns you, it just kills you. You turn when you die regardless if you're bit or not. The bite just finishes step one.
Season 3 starts right where the comics are now. The timelines are caught up. Fun fact: Clementine is actually older than Carl in the comics. So if we see him in the game (we probably won') Clementine will be a year older than Carl.
Okay, let me be clearer about this because I already know that much: What exactly happens to the people who turn in walkers? As in, their consciousness?
How does a thread about Character Interactions sound to you guys/gals?
When the person becomes a walker only the parts of their brain that controls senses, motor skills and instinct re-animate. The parts that allow a person to recall memories or to have emotions remain dead. The "human" part of the brain remains dead so the walker is more like an animal operating on survival instinct: hunger.
Hmm. Okay, that much I was a little fuzzy about, so thanks.
But I was more referring to the metaphysical/spiritual connotations of their body re-animating into a walker. Does the person who turns(for example, Lee, Mark, Nick, or Rebecca) move on to Heaven/RottenWorld/wherever or is this a roboticizer situation?
Hmm...maybe. What exactly would that entail?
That sounds great! More so, I believe that a thread on the characters' perceptions of one another would be even better!
You know what, that's a better way of putting it! Thanks!
I'm looking forward to that thread already!
I have noticed that a lot of the discussions on this forum get derailed by Kenny and Jane arguments and criticisms of the second season. What if there were a thread to discuss what people like about the games, characters, and the TWD universe and making negative comments were not allowed?
Did you watch the TWD series on television? The villain called the governor was researching that. He was interested in seeing if any part of the human aspect ...memory, emotion, sentience ...could be triggered once someone turned. The results were not promising so I guess the "soul" goes wherever you think it does based on your faith or atheism.
That sound pleasant!
Nope. Been considering it once or twice but too many other things to give a shit right now.
Aw. So, the Dark Purveyor's concert it is!
Thanks, Dont_Look_Back. That's a cool interesting fact.
I didn't realize Clem was older than Carl. Thought she was younger honestly.
Apparently Lee originally killed someone named Sam. Anyone know who was this supposed to be?
Sam is either the cenator he killed, or his wife (assuming her name is Samantha [I think I once heard her name was Samantha] [also no no the same Samanthat from the Michonne MiniSeries]).
Where did you hear that? Sound interesting.
I was listening to some unused voice clips trying to find this line where Larry survives and I kept hearing Katjaa/Jolene/whoever bring up that Lee killed Sam.
Not an actual question but I want a second opinion on this. When Clementine gets Sarah out of the trailer and hands her her glasses, Sarah looks at Clementine for a moment before putting them on--and then she gives her this...look. What did you think this meant?
Okay, looking at the walk back conversation from the trailer park, do you really think Jaime is dead?
DUN DUN DUUUNNNN
As I do not believe in heaven nor hell, I would say that the body drifts into a state of eternal unconsciousness regardless of how one dies.
Well, to be honest, it could be argued that Jane never specifically said she saw Jaime's death or what was left of her, so it could very well be possible that Jaime survived, but never got back into contact with Jane, who just went on her life believing her sister to be deceased. Now, in my personal opinion, I'd say she's as dead as a doornail, but really, it's unknown since we never actually saw it.