Problems that people with Aspergers Syndrome face.
I have been reading about this condition. And I have taken an interest in how these people function.
Here are some traits that Aspies are known for:
"They tend to be sincere, positive and genuine, which make them loyal and dependable friends.
Speaking their minds regardless of the social context is true of many adults with Aspergers.
Adults with Aspergers tend to be trusting of others, even charmingly naïve. They are compassionate and caring, and many maintain the belief in the possibility of positive relationships.
They are often direct, speak their mind and are honest. Many have a strong sense of social justice.
They are persistent, and when they set their minds to something or make a promise they can usually be trusted to follow through.
Relationships with someone who has Aspergers tends to be free from bias and discrimination based on race, gender, age or other differences. They judge people based on their behavior not the color of their skin, socioeconomic status or political influence.
They are not inclined to be bullies, con artists or social manipulators."
Obviously, people with Aspergers have some very positive traits. But the ones that will get them into trouble a lot of times are:
"They tend to be sincere, positive and genuine, which make them loyal and dependable friends.
Speaking their minds regardless of the social context is true of many adults with Aspergers.
Adults with Aspergers tend to be trusting of others, even charmingly naïve. They are not inclined to be bullies, con artists or social manipulators."
Having a tendency to naïve, and trusting, they will often times be taken advantage of. Unfortunately, we live in a world that is full a takers and manipulators.
And because of not reading social cues like average people are able to do, they will often miss the signs that they are being played.
And unfortunately, people in general have a strong tendency to target those who are different, even if the person in question is not that much different, and they will make them the subject of bullying and ridicule.
And I said before, because of not being able to recognize the social cues and alike the way average people can and do, they will often not realize when they are the victims of such treatment, until they get seriously hurt, or used up and thrown away.
Also because of not bring good in the tact department, they often times come off as offensive, even though they do not mean to be. And as a result, they sadly are at risk for not having many friends, despite their positive traits, or being able to keep friends.
So what my question is, and I am far from an expert, but are people with Aspergers Syndrome destined to always be naïve and gullible?
Or can they in fact learn to become "street smart"? Can they learn how to spot the social cues others give off and thus be able to protect themselves and make real genuine friends in a world that is largely populated by users and manipulators?
Can they learn how to demonstrate good social skills and behavior, both verbal and non-verbal?
Or are destined to end up alone and unwanted by society in general?
(I do not write this thread to offend anyone, but rather I am sharing what I know about Aspergers Syndrome, and what life is like for people who have it.
And I am hoping that if there is anyone here who is familiar with the subject, that you will share what you know, and be able to answer the questions I have raised.
And even if after you decide not to comment after having read this lengthy thread, allow to at least thank you for taking the time to read this.)
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After reading all of that, I'd imagine that it can be annoying at times to those that have it. It reminds me of the Justicar from Mass Effect. There are countless ignorant people out there that cannot take true advice as they get defensive and rude, potentially violent. I try to be nice to everyone as a technique of human pattern studying. In the similar manner that Data observes humans, I do also. When I'm one on one with someone, I can tell from their voice and body language if they are a nice person or not. Many times in work scenarios I have encountered rude people that try to bully others. This isn't just from managers, this is mostly from Co workers. For this reason I hate working with men at the workplace. I'm a man that can see arrogance in my fellow man. I then have to show them that I'm not someone to mess with, usually by threatening them and showing my angry self in a calm manner. I'd rather work with women as they do not tend to show aggressiveness in the work place and if you help them, they will try to help you most of the time. In truth, I'd feel pity for the people that have this disease. Most of the world is cruel and will eat you up and spit you out if you let it. From what I've seen, people tend to be self centered and will only help those that will return the favor. I'm not like that and I try to be good to everyone to be in a small minority of this planet. Most people also have little to zero patience and they react in a terrible manner to others as a result of it.
People with aspergers can be assholes just like anyone else your quotes seem to paint them as golden when they can be condescending self centered bastards like all of mankind and pretty damn rude in my experience
Edit they can also be lovely I dont mean to be such a cunt, its just I feel like this was written by the mother of a aspie or something because its so speshul
Most with asperger don't want to be rude or assholes.
Want to know why I know this?
I had a hard time before I got help. Still sometimes I do stupid stuff that upsets people without me knowing what would happen before hand. I don't want to be rude. But sometimes I am without me knowing it. That's when I need a correction and I often don't understand right away. I love the people that correct me, they help me survive around other people.
But of course, we can be assholes when we want it like normal people
Fellow Aspie here.
It really depends on the person, not necessarily their Aspergers.
But yes, some of us genuinely do speak our minds and can be offensive without realizing it sometimes.
Social life wise, I like to think that I do pretty well given my circumstances. Tts different for everyone. Some Aspies have a lot of friends, others don't. Just like people without Autism. Some people just genuinely suck at social involvement, Austism or not. And there's absolutely nothing wrong with that.
I'm just like any other brick in the wall. (Lol.) Except the chemicals in my brain release a little bit differently than yours. People overthink Aspergers syndrome just a little bit too much.
ANYBODY can be an asshole.
Another Aspergers sufferer here, you read my previous post/topic regarding my recent problems!!!
Just adding links for convenience:
https://www.telltale.com/community/discussion/110041/last-night-was-very-very-depressing
https://www.telltale.com/community/discussion/109622/last-night-was-fantastic-finally-talked-to-a-lass-socially
Early intervention probably helps, and. I imagine the same applies to intervention done later on in life. Unpleasant side-effects of disabilities (of course, some might disagree Aspergers is a disability) can often be mitigated with the right tools and professional assistance.
I had a lot of mental/behavioral problems as a kid, mostly linked to my vision impairment. A lot of developmental therapy of my first several years was a godsend. Course, it ruined my family financially and a lot of people can't afford it at all, which sucks.
If you can't get professional help or don't think you need it, I'd recommend reading up about it and taking a look at coping strategies that have worked for others.
I have known Aspergers people, and yes I will admit that they can be assholes just like everybody else.
However I have also seen how many of them are treated. I have a cousin who has a high functioning form of autism, and I have seen over the years how he has been treated.
People with Aspergers are often used and abused. And as a result of such treatment it's understandable if some of them perhaps have a chip on their shoulder.
It was suspected that i can have Aspergers.
I'm very anti-social, and i stress easily in that kind of situations.
I'm also painfully honest. I know what i say can possibly hurt people, but i go with the logic that there are things that have to be said, even if they are gonna hurt.
Am i naive? Well... I'm cautious when it comes to people i don't know, but yes, you could say i'm kind of naive. I trust people too much, and rely on them too much. I often feel like i'm always for them when they need me but they are not there for me when i need them.
I'm friendly but i avoid strangers.I'm really open to my friends. Probably too open, considering how many times i was ready to talk about something heavy but they weren't.
I also try to be funny too much.
As someone with Aspergers, I can confirm that not only is a lot of this bullshit, but even the parts of it that aren't bullshit aren't correct for everyone. Aspergers is like depression or OCD. There are different forms of it. Nobody is in the exact same situation or have the exact same issues. Something people who DON'T have disorders like that tend to forget quite often.
EDIT:
Liking people and trying to be a good fucking person doesn't make you "naive and gullible". You're only naive and gullible when someone is genuinely trying to take advantage of you, and even then, many people, including me, can see the manipulation coming, so they break shit off.
Ahhh, perpetuating the "all human beings are cunts" stereotype, are we? I've interestingly enough met more good people than bad people. Just because someone makes a large mistake or ask you for something, does not mean they are "users" and "manipulators".
Huh... for someone who made this thread for the point of not offending anyone, that was pretty offensive.