Having problems loading game

edited August 2009 in Game Support
Greetings all!

I've currently downloaded the demo of "Abe Lincoln Must Die" to see if my system can run the Seasons before I buy them (something I try to do as often as possible to avoid wasting my cash, you understand). Therein, however, lies the problem.
After downloading it, installing it, and running it, after pushing the "Play Now", the screen flashes, and returns me to the Desktop, and no error message is displayed. This concerns me. Could this be a fault of my own (Before posting this, I searched for other issues similar, but could find nothing. I also redownloaded the latest DirectX files, and checked to see if I was behind in driver updates. I wasn't)?

My computer stats :

Processor : AMD Athlon 64 x2 4400+
Video Card : Nvidia Geforce 6150SE
OS : Windows XP SP3
HD : 300GB
RAM : 2GB

I am ready to give any information necessary in order to help me solve this dilemma, as I really enjoyed the older Sam & Max and have only heard good things about the episodic version.

Thank you.
Dex

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  • DjNDBDjNDB Moderator
    edited August 2009
    Dexodro wrote: »
    Processor : AMD Athlon 64 x2 4400+
    Video Card : Nvidia Geforce 6150SE
    OS : Windows XP SP3
    HD : 300GB
    RAM : 2GB

    I am ready to give any information necessary in order to help me solve this dilemma, as I really enjoyed the older Sam & Max and have only heard good things about the episodic version.

    Hi Dex,

    I love the episodes too. It would help to have more detailed information on your system as provided by dxdiag this way:

    Please start dxdiag:
    Windows XP: Go to your start menu and click on run. Type in "dxdiag" and hit enter
    Windows Vista: Press the windows key on your keyboard or click on the start menu. Type in "dxdiag" and hit enter.

    Now click on the button that says "save all information".
    It will prompt you to save a file. Save it where you can find it.


    Now you have two options to make it accessible for us. Pick the one that works best for you:
    1. If you know how, you can zip the file and attach it to a message.
    2. You can upload it to Rapidshare and copy the link to the file into a new message.
  • edited August 2009
    Here you go :)

    Note : It was zipped into .ZIP w/ 7zip's LZMA format. I don't know if that might cause problems?
  • DjNDBDjNDB Moderator
    edited August 2009
    Dexodro wrote: »
    Here you go :)

    Note : It was zipped into .ZIP w/ 7zip's LZMA format. I don't know if that might cause problems?

    Not at all. I'm using 7zip too.

    Your graphics card drivers are up to date, but you could try updating your sound drivers.
  • edited August 2009
    Unfortunately, after installing the sound drivers, nothing has changed. Clicking play now still just flashes and drops me back to desktop.
  • DjNDBDjNDB Moderator
    edited August 2009
    Dexodro wrote: »
    Unfortunately, after installing the sound drivers, nothing has changed. Clicking play now still just flashes and drops me back to desktop.

    How about installing the latest DirectX?
    EDIT: Sorry, i missed you did that already, or did you download it in a different way?

    Have you tried a clean boot?

    Msconfig for Windows XP:
    To Boot Clean in Windows XP

    1. Click Start --> Run --> Type MSCONFIG --> Click OK
    2. On the General tab, choose Selective Startup
    3. Uncheck Process SYSTEM.INI file
    4. Uncheck Process WIN.INI file
    5. Uncheck Load Startup Items
    6. Click on the Services tab
    7. At the bottom, check Hide All Microsoft Services
    8. Uncheck all boxes in the window or click the button labeled Disable All
    6. Click OK
    7. Click Restart
    8. After reboot, run the game to see if it works.

    After performing the necessary steps, restore your system by doing the following:

    1. Click Start --> Run --> Type MSCONFIG--> Click OK
    2. On the General tab, choose Normal Startup
    3. Click OK
    4. Click YES, when asked to restart your computer

    Based on Will's post
  • edited August 2009
    Alright. Did it.

    On the first reboot after doing the first steps, it loaded up to the second logo screen (I'm not sure what to call those, heh), but then dumped me back to desktop. And upon restoring normal boot, it did the same, but the second time I ran it for bother steps, it just did the 'flash and dump', as I'm starting to call it.

    Oh, and I originally installed the latest DirectX from here :

    http://filehippo.com/download_directx/

    And yesterday, I used the runtime installer from Microsoft's homepage.
  • DjNDBDjNDB Moderator
    edited August 2009
    I see :(

    At the Moment I am running out of good ideas. But after these there's still some insane stuff to try.

    What Version of Internet Explorer is installed on your system?
    The game launcher uses it.

    Does it work when you disconnect from the internet?

    Have you tried a fresh download?

    Fresh Download
    Uninstall the game and choose not to delete your save games.
    Then make a clean download as described below, and install it.

    Deleting temporary internet files:

    Before downloading it again it is generally recommended that you
    delete your browsers cache/temporary internet files so that it is not loaded from there:

    In recent Firefox and Internet Explorer you can delete the cache/temporary internet files with CTRL-Shift-Del.

    In Firefox you would only select "Cache".

    In Internet Explorer only select "Temporary Internet Files".
    Uncheck all other boxes in each case.

    After installation check if the error still occurs.
  • edited August 2009
    I'm using the latest IE8.
    It doesn't work when I d/c my connection.
    I had deleted it (it being S&M:ALMD) last night after 2 hours of searching for ways to fix it, and reinstalled it this afternoon when I saw you replied, so it's a fresh install.
    Aaand, I clear my internet cache and temp. files with ccleaner at least once every 6 hours.
  • DjNDBDjNDB Moderator
    edited August 2009
    Now it starts getting difficult :(

    Have you tried if a different episode of S&M season 1 works, e.g. the first?

    dxdiag said you mainboard was a "Biostar N61PB-M2S", but that model doesn't exist at biostars website.
    Is your PC some brand PC such as Dell or HP? If yes, which model?

    I was about to propose that you update all your mainboards drivers from the manufacturers website (except audio, we have the newest for that).
  • edited August 2009
    I updated my motherboard drivers awhile back. I had to, because the cd that was shipped w/ the mobo didn't work with my nearly half-a-decade old dvd drive. :P My mobo is actually a MCP6P M2+.
    and :
    I built everything from scratch. I don't like prebuilt systems. I've had too many problems in the past dealing with Acer and Dell.

    Downloaded Ep.1, and same thing. White screen in the corner of my monitor, and then back to desktop. (my 1366x768 resolution can't be at fault here, can it?)

    edit :

    and, heh, it's strange that dxdiag is misreading my mobo. I can see the mcp6p m2+ written on the hardware :P
  • DjNDBDjNDB Moderator
    edited August 2009
    Dexodro wrote: »
    I updated my motherboard drivers awhile back. I had to, because the cd that was shipped w/ the mobo didn't work with my nearly half-a-decade old dvd drive. :P My mobo is actually a MCP6P M2+.
    and :
    I built everything from scratch. I don't like prebuilt systems. I've had too many problems in the past dealing with Acer and Dell.

    Downloaded Ep.1, and same thing. White screen in the corner of my monitor, and then back to desktop. (my 1366x768 resolution can't be at fault here, can it?)

    I see.
    I doesn't hurt trying a different resolution. I've seen more absurd reasons.

    But now that you mention it, you could try starting the game, after replacing the games prefs.prop by the one i attached. It's in window mode in a low resolution.
    You'll find it in the installation directory of the episode, i assume "C:\Program Files\Telltale Games\something"
  • edited August 2009
    Now my whole screen flashes white for half-a-second and drops me back to desktop. But still no game.
  • DjNDBDjNDB Moderator
    edited August 2009
    Dexodro wrote: »
    Now my whole screen flashes white for half-a-second and drops me back to desktop. But still no game.

    I fear i am running out of ideas now. you should try writing an e-mail to support@telltalegames.com and link to this thread. Maybe they have some more ideas.

    Last thing i would do is hardware tests and trying if installing a fresh windows (on a different hard disk just for testing purposes) helps. In some cases it did and noone knew what was wrong. But that's only if you're willing to try everything to get it running.

    If you're interested in hardware tests, i'll post them here.



    Testing your memory:
    Bad memory is often the reason for random crashes. In order to test your memory download http://www.memtest86.com/ and make a bootable cd or disk. Start your system from that medium to run the memory test.

    It is probably enough to run it for one pass. Look at the lower table that looks like this after one pass is finished:
    Test Pass Errors
    ---- ---- ------
    Std     1      0
    

    If there are errors they are showed in red as in this example:
    th_Photo024.jpg





    Testing your processor:
    You should monitor your processors temperature while running the processor test, just as a safety measure to prevent hardware damage by overheating. You can do that with core temp.
    Now download prime95 for 32-bit or 64-bit Windows and run it. If you see a "welcome to gimps" window choose "just stress testing".
    In the "run a torture Test" window just press ok.
    Let the Test run for at least 5 minutes. If the temperature reaches 60°C before that, abort it. To stop it use "Test/Stop" in the Menu, but keep the window open because you need the results. Just closing the window would keep it running in the systray.

    If there are no Errors listed until then, your processor should be okay.
    Errors would look like the red worker thread in this Picture.
    P95ss9.gif






    Testing your graphics card:

    Open your PC and make sure the graphics card cooler is dust free and look whether the fan runs when the PC is running.

    Download FurMark to stress test your graphics card. Start it, select "Stability Test" and "Xtreme Burning Mode" and press "Go!".
    While running you should monitor the temperature at the bottom of the screen. Run it for 10 minutes or until the temperature seems to be stable for some minutes. If the temperature exceeds 80°C, abort with Escape.
  • DjNDBDjNDB Moderator
    edited August 2009
    I was just thinking...
    You could try the Wallace & Gromit and Tales of Monkey island demos. They have a bit different engines than Sam&Max. Would be interesting to know if they work.
  • edited August 2009
    The MemTest will have to wait until I can grab my younger brother's Ubuntu LiveCD, as I have problems burning things to disk with my old dvd-writer, and I believe the livecd has memtest as an boot option.
    Well, I finished the five minutes, the first test completed without errors. I was wary, but I had alerts set for problematic temperatures, and they hit 63/61 just as the first test completed for the cpu. -phew-
    Furmark ran for 10 minutes wihout issue. My core temp idled at 52/45.
    Min.FR : 2 || Av.FR : 402 || Max.FR: 569

    Wallace & Gromit Install :

    No launcher pops up. No flashes. Nothing happens. Task manager shows processes being run, but then it shuts down. Nothing said, nothing done.

    Tales of Monkey Island Install :
    Same thing.
  • edited August 2009
    Could it be that your graphics card is somehow incompatible with Telltale games? Not sure how it would affect the computer but do you have a spare card from a different company you could test it with? I'm pretty sure I read another thread where someone with an Nvidia card was having problems of some sort...
  • edited August 2009
    I did a search for "Nvidia 6150SE" before making the thread in case that it might have happened before, but I can't find anything related to it, seeing as my thread is the only one i found with any mention :P
  • edited August 2009
    Dexodro wrote: »
    I did a search for "Nvidia 6150SE" before making the thread in case that it might have happened before, but I can't find anything related to it, seeing as my thread is the only one i found with any mention :P

    Yeah, it probably wasn't your particular card, just the Nvidia brand. Whatever it is, I hope you get it sorted, it'll be a shame if you can't play the games.

    I'm sure a representative will join in the thread in no time!
  • edited August 2009
    Yeah, it probably wasn't your particular card, just the Nvidia brand. Whatever it is, I hope you get it sorted, it'll be a shame if you can't play the games.

    I'm sure a representative will join in the thread in no time!

    I sent them an e-mail linking to this thread, so hopefully, something will come of it. :)
  • DjNDBDjNDB Moderator
    edited August 2009
    Dexodro wrote: »
    Wallace & Gromit Install :

    No launcher pops up. No flashes. Nothing happens. Task manager shows processes being run, but then it shuts down. Nothing said, nothing done.

    Tales of Monkey Island Install :
    Same thing.

    Yes, the Ubuntu Live cd usually has memtest on it.
    Okay, so good news for CPU and GPU, and bad news for finding the reason.

    Now that we knot ToMI and W&G are affected as well, we could have a look at similar problems with those games. There are more threads like that, but i didn't want to search for them all.

    There were some really crazy solutions for some people.
    - Users who had a Graphics Tablet once had to uninstall its drivers or connect it to the PC because DirectInput behaved strangely.

    - Older Graphics Card drivers made it work. That's something you could try.
    You find them in the Nvidia Driver Archive. You could start at the oldest, and when it works find the newest one that works.
    Know about binary search (computer scientists) or bisection (mathematicians)? Would be a good approach for that.

    - Some had more luck with the Omega Drivers.

    Could it be that your graphics card is somehow incompatible with Telltale games? Not sure how it would affect the computer but do you have a spare card from a different company you could test it with? I'm pretty sure I read another thread where someone with an Nvidia card was having problems of some sort...

    That's a good idea. I would also try a different one from nvidia if available.
    It's not supposed to be permanent, just to narrow it down.
  • edited August 2009
    What irritates me the most is that he doesn't get a launcher window for WnG. Maybe I'm wrong, but since the launcher is essentially a InternetExplorer wrapper, to me that suggests a deeper issue with the OS in general, rather than with his drivers. Registry, filesystem, incorrect file version of OS library... something like that.

    If you have enough space on your HDD, maybe you could try a clean OS install. There may also be tools to verify the version of your core libraries, but I sadly don't know about those.
  • DjNDBDjNDB Moderator
    edited August 2009
    What irritates me the most is that he doesn't get a launcher window for WnG. Maybe I'm wrong, but since the launcher is essentially a InternetExplorer wrapper, to me that suggests a deeper issue with the OS in general, rather than with his drivers. Registry, filesystem, incorrect file version of OS library... something like that.

    If you have enough space on your HDD, maybe you could try a clean OS install. There may also be tools to verify the version of your core libraries, but I sadly don't know about those.

    Good thinking. I suggested a fresh install for testing purposes earlier as a last resort.

    Windows XP has a tool to check its system files, but i never used that.
    There's some documentation here.
  • edited August 2009
    Try changing the colors in Windows to 32bits. That solved it for me.
  • DjNDBDjNDB Moderator
    edited August 2009
    jannar85 wrote: »
    Try changing the colors in Windows to 32bits. That solved it for me.

    Sadly that's not the reason. I had checked it in his dxdiag already.
    Also, if you have it set to 16 bit it usually gives a (useless) error message.
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