Speculation from Lair of the Leviathan to Rise of the Pirate God
Attention to everyone reading!: This thread contains spoilers, for people who finished Episode 1, and 2. AND, I will not be using spoilers in this thread, you've been warned.
So, as many people guessed, most of the game will be set, in *ahem*... Hugh, and Morgan and Guybrush might be getting closer together, but in the end, the trio gets out, and they'll be back on
Flotsam where the court house is open, and a trial is up....
horrible and most powerful pirate ever! (LeChuck was trying to do this in Episode 1).
Well, that's the end. Go ahead and reply what you think of my speculations, if you think they're right, or false.
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Lair of the Leviathan
So, as many people guessed, most of the game will be set, in *ahem*... Hugh, and Morgan and Guybrush might be getting closer together, but in the end, the trio gets out, and they'll be back on
Flotsam where the court house is open, and a trial is up....
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The Trial and Execution of Guybrush Threepwood
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Rise of the Pirate God
horrible and most powerful pirate ever! (LeChuck was trying to do this in Episode 1).
Well, that's the end. Go ahead and reply what you think of my speculations, if you think they're right, or false.
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Something Telltale are very adept at, even after only 2 chapters is something that other MI games have lacked, an Emotional connection to the characters. I'm almost sure that 90% of the people who have played the whole of chapter two winced when Elaine said
And I think to have the pay off be.. no pay off at all would cheapen that quite a bit
Guybrush, Morgan and Winslow are in the Manatee right now (also known as "the mouth"). The next chapter will probably start with the Manatee spitting them out by it's lair, an underwater cave or something - possibly beneath (or on) the rock of Gelato - which also happens to be the home of La Esponja Grande!. There they will find De Cava (who may be related to Morgan).
De Cava's story is as follows: he was working on a submarine to take him to the Lair of the Leviathan and La Esponja Grande!, but decided that the idea could never work because there wasn't going to be enough air for him in the sub, so he decided to make the golden animal thingmabobs out of fool's gold and summon the mouth (the manatee, that is) to take him to the lair. What he didn't think about was getting back; he's now stranded. This may be due to the mouth being a one-way deal, or it may be due to the fact that he used fool's gold to summon it.
Luckily, Morgan LaFlay was working with a modified version of the sub co-designed by De Singe in exchange for her skills (or maybe just designed by her), and if she can get the right parts (with help from us, of course), she can make a new one and take everyone back above water, with a big wad of La Esponja Grande! in hand to cure everyone.
Meanwhile... LeChuck and Elaine are out putting the monkeys back in their natural habitat. OR ARE THEY?! Maybe. I'm not sure, I haven't thought into this one much. What I do know, though, is that LeChuck has a hidden agenda, or will by the end of it, and wants to restore himself to his former undead glory, winning back Elaine in the process. Elaine is wise to this, however, and she's given Guybrush her ring as a "deposit" to show that she'll be back.
Upon returning to Flotsam, it becomes apparent that McGillicutty and/or De Singe have framed Guybrush. McGillicutty because he doesn't want the sponge to get out, and De Singe because he wants Guybrush's hot pirate body (and who better to experiment on, in the eyes of the law, than a prisoner - or one's corpse?). Guybrush will be executed promptly, but resurrected as a PIRATE GOD! shortly thereafter, by De Singe (inadvertently?), De Cava, the Voodoo Lady or (maybe) LeChuck. Either he will have to use his new awesome title to defeat the now more powerful than ever LeChuck, or he will have to use it to defeat De Singe (depending on who LeChuck is siding with - he may have resurrected Guybrush in order to get him to rid the world of De Singe, who would be a threat to his voodoo power).
Very likely, although The Mouth spitting them out, is unlikely, it's more likely, they find there own way out, and LeChuck will probably go back to being Mister: Horrifying Voodoo Man, by the end of the series.
I'm also a bit annoyed to realise that we probably won't get to revisit some island from previous games. Watching Scabb in all 3d glory would have been cool, but maybe it's for the better. Too many bad memories from EFMI and its revisits...
One thing I'm sure is that episodes will get gradually better as is usual in Telltale seasons.
I'm guessing Guybrush and Morgan will bond, seemingly, and the trio in the Leviathan will escape by DeCava's 'submarine', which just happened to have been swallowed up in its belly, with or without a DeCava to go with it.
And then Morgan will double-cross Guybrush and bring him back to Flotsam's Court. Once he's been put to 'death' [for all his Caribbean crimes], DeSinge is free to do with him as he wishes [i.e. I think De Singe will set Guybrush up here so he can continue his work without fear of discovery of the locals, authorities etc].
I'm not worthy enough to speculate on Chapter 5, but hopefully it'll be a bit longer than the typical endgame chapters in Monkey Island games are. :cool:
Now that, seems very logical. Hope it's real!
LeChuck is revealed to be behind everything. He planned to be turned into a human and spread his evil so that he can control others and use the pox to make Elaine fall in love with him. The flower he gave her was infected with the pox and Elaine breathed it in, allowing it to affect her mental state, but not her body. LeChuck controlled all the poxed pirates and monkeys to do his dirty work in order to appear good to Elaine.
He manipulated the pirates to attack spinner cay to collect the artifacts. When Guybrush arrived, he altered his plans and had him get them to summon the sponge. His plans were for the sponge to reveal itself so that he could use to gather other voodoo powers, not from the poxed pirates, but from all other voodoo wielding people such as the voodoo lady. He would use it to become a pirate god, but still have an army of poxed pirates under his command, Elaine fully under his control and at his side, and all the seven seas. While Guybrush summons the sponge, LeChuck further tightens his hold on Elaine and makes deals with De singe to kill Guyrbush once he gets what he wants from him.
Once the sponge is summoned and brought above the ocean, LeChuck and the poxed pirates subdue it while LeChuck arrives on Guybrush's ship with Elaine, now under his complete control, and De Singe. Morgan allows them to capture Guybrush for her gold, but feels horrible. LeChuck explains his whole plan, but then mentions that Guybrush can not be killed because the pox is in his essence. To counter that, LeChuck plans to have De singe extract Guybrush's essence to make his elixir and insure Guybrush will die when the time is right. Morgan goes with De Singe to Flotsam with Guyrbush and Murray, who is in his pocket, as prisoner. LeChuck locks up Winslow and Decava in the brig of his ship and uses the sponge to extract enough power to become a pirate god. He takes the sponge and his entire fleet of ships to the Rock of Gelato, as it's the prefect place to extract all the power from the Caribbean and that site and conquer all the seas.
On Flotsam, De Singe reattaches Guybrush's hand, extracts Guybrush's essence, ridding him of the pox, prefects his elixir, and gives Guybrush over to the court house where a trial and execution is set up. Morgan interferes and sacrifices her life to save Guybrush. Guybrush tries to save her but Murray will tell him to go on with his journey. Morgan will say that the skull is right and that there is no escaping his fate before dying. Guybrush is infuriated and attacks De Singe who gets gravely injured by one of his weird scientific experiments in his lab. In a last ditch effort before dying, the doctor drinks his own elixir and becomes an undead monster.
Guybrush flees and, with the help of the voodoo lady, who goes with him to find Decava, catches up to LeChuck back at the rock of gelato. He frees Winslow and Decava from LeChuck's brig and they help him free the sponge. The sponge gives the power to counteract LeChucks' by making Guybrush another god. De Singe appears and joins in the battle, aiding LeChuck's pirates. After Guybrush defeats LeChuck, the sponge takes away both their god forms and sucks up all of the pox from everyone, including De Singe. This makes all the poxed pirates return to regular, non evil, grog swinging pirates.
De Singe dies as a result, the pox is put back into LeChuck who is infuriated, and Elaine is returned back to normal. The voodoo lady gives Guybrush the sword from chapter one and Guybrush and LeChuck go into an epic sword fight. Through a very clever series of events, Guybrush stabs the sword into LeChuck and destroys him. LeChuck's corpse is destroyed and his voodoo essence is sucked into the sword, trapped in an eternal limbo. Decava and the voodoo lady start anew and Guybrush and Elaine sail off to the open sea with their new crew of Winslow and Murray. The last scene is Guybrush giving Elaine back her wedding ring.
Oh, nice touch.
Oh, and an eyepatch!
And Meathook could keep Guybrush's parrot!
Think about it.
I was right with you up until that last bullet point. Totally agree on the first two though. They sound right in line with where the story has been going so far. But I really can't see the whole Pox God thing happening. My guess is Guybrush starts some kind of mythology to get ahead somehow or to gain authority. Can't you see Guybrush Threepwood, Head Priest of the Order of the Pirate God?
I know I sure gasped when she said that. Didn't realize I was so attached to the characters until that moment, actually. I think that there will be some mischief afoot while Guybrush and Morgan are trapped in the Manatee, resulting in more tension and accusations once they get out. There's bound to be some kind of misunderstanding whilst Elaine is away. At least, I'd like to think Telltale is developing the characters like that.
Of course, after all, he did tell Elaine, Morgan was a boy, not a girl. So Elaine might jump too a conclusion, she'll yell at Guybrush, and she'll stomp off in a fowl temper, leaving Guybrush to yell into the distance telling Elaine: "You're over-reacting!"
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Hint? Or just the way they have decided to name all the Monkey eps?
It's just a coincidence what you speak of
Gosh, that sent shivers down my spine! :eek: And the whole deal of
As for my own speculations, only thing that really came to my mind would be that "Rise of the Pirate God" - IF Guybrush really was executed - would refer to him.
All the scenarios would not be exciting enough. The game should end with a conclusion that can make you look at all the chapters in a different way. Ex: LeChuck planned the whole thing. That could add a lot to the other chapters because you can look for hints of his plans in each chapter. Him really being nice is way too dynamic for LeChuck and wouldn't really make much sense given all these lines spoken in the first two chapters. A lot of lines seem to be hinting at an insidious plot, and if there isn't one, then well those lines are pretty meaningless.
And, by the way, he was killed by insane, demonic doctor who loves cutting peple's limbs...
Or maybe it had something to do with Guybrush humming Largo's theme and saying something like "I wonder why that's in my head". And... Largo LaEsponjaGrande
You mean, Largo is La Esponja Grande? Well, as long as it's not Spongebob Squarepants, that's fine with me.
Now wait, you forgot the "pantalones cuadrados." Bob Esponja Grande Pantalones Cuadrados is what you meant. I can't wait to see Guybrush find the Bob Sponge Big of Pants Square.
Rise of the pirate god doesn't refer to a person but a ship rising from the ocean, possibly De Cava's submarine modfied by lechuck.