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CMI Ring

HaydenHayden
edited September 2009 in Tales of Monkey Island
In the second episode, Guybrush receives the Curse of Monkey Island wedding ring from Elaine but does not use it with anything in the episode! So what is the point of having it? Unless the ring plays a huge part in the story in the latter few episodes... Does the ring have a major significance in Tales of Monkey Island, yes or no? Any theories?
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  • IgnatiusIgnatius
    edited August 2009
    An episode of Tales... is just that, an episode, part of a larger game. In adventure games you pick objects to use them later. So considering the game isnt over yet, i dont see anything odd.
  • Rather DashingRather Dashing
    edited August 2009
    "I can't use the skeleton arm with that."
  • bobdevisbobdevis
    edited August 2009
    I remember that the last time I had a diamond ring in the inventory (can't remember which game) you could use it to cut glass. So yeah, I did try to use it on stuff to see if I could maybe cut it.
    ToMI2 gives you a big hint that nothing will work with it though, as Guybrish clearly announces he will not use the ring for anything.
  • GeypiGeypi
    edited August 2009
    it's probably quite usefull. But i don't really know for what :D
  • tmfm2000tmfm2000
    edited August 2009
    I thought it would be used in the same way it was used in CMI, to cut glass (like the rubber tree, I knew it would be useful), so my guess is that it'll be used later. What I never got though is why she gave it to me in the first place? Did anyone understand the logic behind that?
  • SpadgeSpadge
    edited August 2009
    The logic is simple. "You are married, so take it. I don't want any sea wenches flirting with my idiot husband because he has no wedding ring."

    Something like that.
  • Sir PantalonesSir Pantalones
    edited August 2009
    Maybe it has the power to turn gold into flesh.

    ...

    Or maybe it is still anti-cursed, so that it can cure other curses?

    ...

    Or maybe it just cuts glass...
  • meandermeander
    edited August 2009
    I see it as a setup for a puzzle in one of the later chapters... like maybe there'll be a puzzle where the way to achieve a goal would be to bribe another character with the ring (or something else that would involve Guybrush permanently losing it) and then the repercussions from Elaine following that... could be quite funny...
  • WoodsyblueWoodsyblue
    edited August 2009
    Remember the ink ribbon in Sam & Max, that really was useless!!!

    If only I had listened to Sam the first time he said it, instead of trying it on everything! :mad:
  • GibbeynatorGibbeynator
    edited August 2009
    Maybe in a future game, Guybrush will combine the ring with the stone face that vanished from his inventory between games, and the ink ribbon from Sam and Max, so solve the final puzzle.
  • Lennie MelvinLennie Melvin
    edited August 2009
    Maybe Guybrush will have a chainsaw that runs out of gas, and unable to find any fuel he'll end up having to cut his way out of some prison cell using only Elaine's diamond ring.
  • MatakuMataku
    edited August 2009
    Elaine will become evil and only the ring will bring her back. (aww)
  • HaydenHayden
    edited August 2009
    Lennie Melvin wrote: »
    Maybe Guybrush will have a chainsaw that runs out of gas, and unable to find any fuel he'll end up having to cut his way out of some prison cell using only Elaine's diamond ring.

    Yeah! Maybe the night before his execution in "The Trial and Execution of Guybrush Threepwood" he'll be put in a prison cell with a window made out of unbreakable glass that can only be cut by the ring!... Or maybe not...
  • wispwisp
    edited August 2009
    Spadge wrote: »
    The logic is simple. "You are married, so take it. I don't want any sea wenches flirting with my idiot husband because he has no wedding ring."
    that's what i though at first, but he's not wearing it or anything. he just keeps it in his pocket. it would have made more sense when she gave it to him at the end of the episode, were they part ways, to remind him of her..
    Woodsyblue wrote: »
    Remember the ink ribbon in Sam & Max, that really was useless!!!
    i though it was a resident evil joke...that's useful enough to me.
  • hansschmuckerhansschmucker
    edited August 2009
    The ring played a major part in irritating me about the mast puzzle. I hadn't noticed the rubber palm tree (sorry, a cannonball bouncing back from a tree in a cartoon world wasn't an obvious clue to me) and thought that the logs on the island were more than just decoration.

    So I tried to make the logs more stable. OK, so gold is actually soft, but at least it doesn't crack, so I wanted to use the ring with the logs and tried dozens of different ways to do it... I got pretty frustrated when it didn't work and actually had to peek into the hints section.
  • LuigiHannLuigiHann
    edited August 2009
    Maybe he'll accidentally propose to Morgan LeFlay,
    and then have to join a country club to get out of it
  • NovotnusNovotnus
    edited August 2009
    Mataku wrote: »
    Elaine will become evil and only the ring will bring her back. (aww)

    I remember similar scene in Phantasmagoria - only it was a toy snowman. And you had to kill main character's husband after showing him this snowman.
  • The CommissionerThe Commissioner
    edited August 2009
    Maybe it's just to remind you of Elaine in Chapter 3 because she might not show up at all in that episode.
  • tmfm2000tmfm2000
    edited August 2009
    this..
    wisp wrote: »
    (...)but he's not wearing it or anything. he just keeps it in his pocket. it would have made more sense when she gave it to him at the end of the episode, were they part ways, to remind him of her..

    ..would have made alot more sense. As it is now, I'm just confused by her giving it to me. Though I do understand that it might have some use later
  • youmaycallmemurrayyoumaycallmemurray
    edited August 2009
    bobdevis wrote: »
    I remember that the last time I had a diamond ring in the inventory (can't remember which game) you could use it to cut glass.
    That was in Curse
  • Jerec84Jerec84
    edited August 2009
    Don't know about you guys, but I used the diamond ring to cut open the oyster. >_>
  • NovotnusNovotnus
    edited August 2009
    Jerec84 wrote: »
    Don't know about you guys, but I used the diamond ring to cut open the oyster. >_>

    I used crowbar : )
  • meandermeander
    edited August 2009
    I just looked at it and it opened :)

    Yeah it will definitely come into the story somewhere... even the Sam and Max ink ribbon had an explanation eventually..
  • youmaycallmemurrayyoumaycallmemurray
    edited August 2009
    haha yeah that one was clever
  • MelanctonMelancton
    edited August 2009
    I'm almost certain it will be used. It'll probably get cursed again.
  • bugzbunny90bugzbunny90
    edited August 2009
    last thing i rmbr abt that ring was when he exchanged it with the cursed ring he got a big smack on the kisser .. i wonder if the ring will be assosiated with smacks or cutting glass
  • WoodsyblueWoodsyblue
    edited August 2009
    Jerec84 wrote: »
    Don't know about you guys, but I used the diamond ring to cut open the oyster. >_>
    Novotnus wrote: »
    I used crowbar : )

    I just clicked look. Guybrush, it turns out, is capable of opening it without assistance.
  • pluizigpluizig
    edited August 2009
    Spadge wrote: »
    The logic is simple. "You are married, so take it. I don't want any sea wenches flirting with my idiot husband because he has no wedding ring."

    Something like that.

    Yeah but now Elaine hasn't got a wedding ring herself.
  • MatakuMataku
    edited August 2009
    mirocking14.gifit's aaaaaaaaaaaaaaallllllllllllllllll time travel... by the end, voodoo pirate guybrush will put a curse on the ring, and it'll become the ring that lechuck had in his treasure hold. you'll see... YOU'LL ALL SEE!
  • doggansdoggans
    edited August 2009
    Wasn't the earring just her engagement ring? Presumably she has a different wedding ring of her own?
  • ClaudioClaudio
    edited August 2009
    Maybe because she want to flirt with someone else? Maybe Lechuck?
  • wispwisp
    edited August 2009
    doggans wrote: »
    Wasn't the earring just her engagement ring? Presumably she has a different wedding ring of her own?

    they are definitely talking about this ring as a wedding ring...i mean, why should elaine get a second ring, when this thing is probably the most expensive ring in the caribbean.
  • jortlabanjortlaban
    edited August 2009
    The ring will probably have some significance in later episodes... but I do hope they don't make up somesort of weird story that messes with this rings history.

    This ring is not cursed or anti-cursed... this ring is just a plain but very expensive ring...
    remember the cursed ring just needed to be replaced by an uncursed ring of equal value and have emotional significance between both parties.
    So this ring is nothing more than a huge diamond on a gold band.
  • tbm1986tbm1986
    edited September 2009
    I thought it was pretty conceivable that it would fall out of Guybrush's pocket somehow and Morgan would pick it up, thinking it was for her. Cue Morgan being all over Guybrush before he gets a chance to react and he struggles to find the words that she wasn't meant to have it. And, of course, Elaine's reaction.

    "Guybrush!"
    "Ahhh..."
    *biff*
  • SpadgeSpadge
    edited September 2009
    tbm1986 wrote: »
    "Guybrush!"
    "Ahhh..."
    *biff*

    I can imagine a pox-infected Elaine reacting to something like this.

    Elaine:GUUUYBRUUUUSSHH THREEEPWOOD!!! WHAT IN THE #@#$%#^$^#^#^#%#%#%!!!

    Guybrush: But, snugglebunny, I- I can explai... Um, love?

    To be continued in... Episode 5: Rise of the PIRATE GODDESS!
  • MermaidMermaid
    edited September 2009
    The ring sure is of importance. When Elaine gave hers to Guybrush I had to think about the foreshadowing dialogue between Guybrush and LeChuck in EP1.

    Guybrush lifts up his hand demonstratively and says: "Listen, you see this ring? It means that Elaine and I are married (...) 'till death do us part."
    He's now lost his ring and I'm sure he'll lose Elaine's as well. Hence, technically speaking, there'll be no proof of their marriage being existent anymore.
    Now add to that the title of the fourth Episode and LeChuck's words: "Till death do you part, ey? We have to do something about that." and we might know how this plot is going to unfold...or maybe not.
  • NovotnusNovotnus
    edited September 2009
    This ring reminds me some other object of great emotional significance that (adult viewers only) saves protagonist's life (minute 04:00)
  • jortlabanjortlaban
    edited September 2009
    Novotnus wrote: »
    This ring reminds me some other object of great emotional significance that (adult viewers only) saves protagonist's life (minute 04:00)

    As long as the merpeople don't start singing "venitres in fascinum" the emotional significance of the ring can probably end up saving Guybrush life in some way without it being too corny.

    (I still LOVE the Phantasmagoria theme, to get a little off topic)
  • feverfewfeverfew
    edited September 2009
    Personally, I'd get quite pissed off if Guybrush had lost the ring. Dealing with Minnie Goodsoup and her back-story were some of my favourite parts of CMI and I thought it was really quaint for Elaine to have a passed-down-since-generations ring as an earring. It adds a nice touch of personal history.
    And now, should Guybrush just lose that ring, because the story needs him to? That would seriously spoil ToMI for me :(
  • thanatos56thanatos56
    edited September 2009
    Mataku wrote: »
    it's aaaaaaaaaaaaaaallllllllllllllllll time travel... by the end, voodoo pirate guybrush will put a curse on the ring, and it'll become the ring that lechuck had in his treasure hold. you'll see... YOU'LL ALL SEE!

    After he uses it to power his Chron-O-John, of course.
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