Who is your favorite villain in Monkey Island

Since we've had a lot of polls for Guybrush's crew and so forth, I'd figure we should have one for the villain. Vote and explain why you picked this villain.

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  • edited August 2009
    i have a hunch morgan is gonna win by a landslide ...only a hunch ..lets see if i am proven wrong....
  • edited August 2009
    Who's Bob?
  • edited August 2009
    LeChuck 4 ever ^^ he is the personification of evil
  • edited August 2009
    Aise wrote: »
    Who's Bob?

    detachable head skeleton that is lechuck's crew member from SOMI
  • edited August 2009
    Oh, right! Well.. I don't think he's such a villain.. Murray is much more!
  • edited August 2009
    LeChuck is THE villain, so I can't consider him in this vote. So it goes again to de Singe (see favorite secondary character poll), but some sympathy points also go to Ozzie. Of course everyone piles hate on EMI and all the characters there, but he actually had a motive, apart from the whole amusement park thing. He just genuinely hated pirates and all things piratey, and that came across rather convincing. Won't root for his comeback though.
  • edited August 2009
    Aise wrote: »
    Oh, right! Well.. I don't think he's such a villain.. Murray is much more!

    i agree that bob isnt a villain...but hes still freakin awesome and really underappreciated
  • edited August 2009
    Well, while LeChuck is important part of Monkey Island series, he is not enough cool to be TOP 1 villain in Monkey Island. Hard Competition goes with between Morgan LeFlay and Captain Rottingham. Both are very cool, but Captain Rottingham was one of the most memorable maincharacters (another one is of course Murray) in Curse of Monkey Island, so he wins.
  • edited August 2009
    I was on the fence of including Murray, but we all have to face the fact that Murray is simply not a villain. He may try to be, but he's not. He's helpful, gives information, is friendly at the bottom of it all, and just has never done anything that villainous. True he once served LeChuck, but he had no choice as LeChuck murdered him and reanimated him. Murray is an awesome character, but he's no villain.
  • edited August 2009
    LeChuck, followed by a tie between Largo LeGrande and Marquis DeSinge.
  • edited August 2009
    Pegnose Pete. I wish they gave him a bigger role in EMI. He had potential.
  • edited August 2009
    Wow, I never realized just how hated Ozzie is. I mean, I knew that a lot of people hated him, but I didn't think it was that extreme. While I didn't appreciate Ozzie taking LeChuck's spotlight, I thought he was a decent villain. He had warped values, no concern for human life (and animal life apparently), broke many laws, made deals with the worst of the worst, and did it all for money and power. Pretty villainous for me, but I think a lot of his lines threw a lot of people off his fan wagon.

    I have to go with LeChuck as my favorite villain. Not just because he is one of the most evil villains I have ever seen, but also because him and Guybrush are mirror images of each other. Both love treasure and want love from the same woman, both have become pirates to be well known, both like to be feared, and both have no common sense in the slightest. LeChuck is far more evil and sadistic than Guybrush, but both have many similarities making their battle something that cannot be compared with other villains.

    I think LeChuck may, very deep in his heart, have gained a slight respect for Guybrush for proving to be such a high threat and more than just a mere annoyance. I mean at the end of Curse, LeChuck seemed to actually enjoy Guybrush's company. Yeah, I know he partly did it to gloat, but he seemed to go an extra mile and talked to Guybrush like an old associate. Well, that was my reaction to that whole long discussion of LeChuck's various murders and schemes.
  • edited August 2009
    darknessofheart,

    I just hated that whole game. The writers wanted the commercialization thing to be a witty joke, but it completely killed the pirate adventure theme.
  • edited August 2009
    darknessofheart,

    I just hated that whole game. The writers wanted the commercialization thing to be a witty joke, but it completely killed the pirate adventure theme.

    Yeah, I understand that. I actually didn't mind the atmosphere that much and there were a lot of moments where I laughed out loud. I also found the story structure to be very clever and some of plot lines, like clearing your name, very appealing. They did go a little too far with the whole tourist attraction aspect, but they tried something new, it didn't work, and they haven't done it since. It was an honest mistake and it wasn't enough for me to hate the whole game. I thought there were a lot of good aspects that outweighed the bad ones. I can understand your point perfectly though, it was defiantly not a pirate esq game.
  • edited August 2009
    Had to pick LeChuck, of course.

    Considering so many people like him, it seems near impossible for people to spell LaGrande right.
  • edited August 2009
    I just hated that whole game. The writers wanted the commercialization thing to be a witty joke, but it completely killed the pirate adventure theme.

    As far as I see it, the only real pirate adventure themed MI games are MI2 and, to some extent, ToMI (if Chapter 2 stuff will be developed further). All other MI games were more like farce on pirate adventure theme. Not that I don't like them, I love the series, but... let's face it, SoMI is not all that piratey. Guybrush did some misdoings, yes, but it's more like a romantic adventure, and all the pirate stuff that is in there: the three trials, pirates not going out to sea, insult swordfighting, it's all pretty much absurd. MI3 - an island full of ex-pirates playing in theater, working as singing barbers and cooking chicken, an island with a hotel resort, and a damn carnival as some kind of evil pirate scheme (I actually liked how Murray said, in EfMI, that LeChuck probably was embarassed by an evil plot based on rollercoasters, it was pretty ironic), and in MI4 we have a swashbuckling adventure to meet Guybrush's wife lawyers, which even in-game Guybrush thinks is kinda absurd, and a tourist commercionalist from Australia. MI games are mostly making fun of pirate adventures, not are pirate adventures themselves (but MI2 was very much piratey, we'll see about ToMI when the season shall end). Maybe MI4 did go slightly too far, I still enjoyed it and don't see it's atmosphere so different from other MI games. Just my two pieces of eight.
  • edited August 2009
    I picked LeChuck. The only reason I didn't vote for Morgan is because I think of her as an anti-hero, not a villain.
  • edited August 2009
    LeChuck... Do I have to state the obvious? ;(
  • edited August 2009
    LeChuck! For all of his unrewarded hard work!
  • edited August 2009
    Actually i might be wrong, but when i hear or read "villain", i always understand it as "main bad guy".
    So, with the exception of mandrill in MI4, and possibly some tales character when we know the whole story, there's only LeChuck.
    Now i'm not trying to nitpick on the thread's title, just wondering if my definition of "villain" is right, or if it actually only means "eveil characters" in general ?
  • edited September 2009
    I don't think Morgan will stay as a villain in the next chapters like the cannibals in Monkey Island.
  • edited September 2009
    Sammy wrote: »
    I don't think Morgan will stay as a villain in the next chapters like the cannibals in Monkey Island.

    im pretty sure she'll end up joining guybrush at some point. probably sooner rather than later.
  • edited September 2009
    MI2 LeChuck. Largo second.

    Who voted Ozzie from the game-that-comes-after-the-third? rofl
  • edited September 2009
    Farlander wrote: »
    As far as I see it, the only real pirate adventure themed MI games are MI2 and, to some extent, ToMI (if Chapter 2 stuff will be developed further). All other MI games were more like farce on pirate adventure theme. Not that I don't like them, I love the series, but... let's face it, SoMI is not all that piratey. Guybrush did some misdoings, yes, but it's more like a romantic adventure, and all the pirate stuff that is in there: the three trials, pirates not going out to sea, insult swordfighting, it's all pretty much absurd. MI3 - an island full of ex-pirates playing in theater, working as singing barbers and cooking chicken, an island with a hotel resort, and a damn carnival as some kind of evil pirate scheme (I actually liked how Murray said, in EfMI, that LeChuck probably was embarassed by an evil plot based on rollercoasters, it was pretty ironic), and in MI4 we have a swashbuckling adventure to meet Guybrush's wife lawyers, which even in-game Guybrush thinks is kinda absurd, and a tourist commercionalist from Australia. MI games are mostly making fun of pirate adventures, not are pirate adventures themselves (but MI2 was very much piratey, we'll see about ToMI when the season shall end). Maybe MI4 did go slightly too far, I still enjoyed it and don't see it's atmosphere so different from other MI games. Just my two pieces of eight.

    Yes I get all that.. MI4 did go too far over the line imo
  • edited September 2009
    Largo - he was my first adventure game villain ever and no one has made an impression like it since.
    Plus - I love his theme song!
  • edited September 2009
    i have a hunch morgan is gonna win by a landslide ...only a hunch ..lets see if i am proven wrong....

    looks like u were wrong
  • jmmjmm
    edited September 2009
    Morgan LeChuck....erm LeFlay
  • edited September 2009
    Actually i might be wrong, but when i hear or read "villain", i always understand it as "main bad guy".
    So, with the exception of mandrill in MI4, and possibly some tales character when we know the whole story, there's only LeChuck.
    Now i'm not trying to nitpick on the thread's title, just wondering if my definition of "villain" is right, or if it actually only means "eveil characters" in general ?

    Villain can be taken as anybody who does evil or heinous things. LeChuck is best described as the main villain for the series, but that doesn't mean others like De Singe are not villains.
  • edited September 2009
    Okay, thanks ;)
  • edited September 2009
    Villain can be taken as anybody who does evil or heinous things. LeChuck is best described as the main villain for the series, but that doesn't mean others like De Singe are not villains.
    In that case Guybrush qualifies too, the evil little bastard! ;)
  • edited September 2009
    You forgot to put Mcgilicutty.
  • edited September 2009
    Jazzy wrote: »
    In that case Guybrush qualifies too, the evil little bastard! ;)

    Hmm, perhaps I should alter my definition. lol. A character just evil by nature and heart and does heinous things to achieve a goal that will only hurt numerous lives. There we go. Though Guybrush has done a lot of bad things, he's still a nice guy at the bottom of it all, so I wouldn't think of him as a villain at all. To me, Guybrush is the prime example of an anti-hero, and that title rocks in my opinion, better than just plain "hero".
  • edited September 2009
    Sammy wrote: »
    You forgot to put Mcgilicutty.

    Yeah, I know. I wasn't sure to include him as he only appeared in one chapter and there's really no indication that he will return.
  • edited September 2009
    In that case Guybrush qualifies too, the evil little bastard!

    Well, depends which side you're on, obviously ;)
    Most stories assume the reader/player/viewer/whatever will identify one side as the "good ones", but this doesn't mean those "good guys" have to be angels ;)
  • edited September 2009
    Largo, because he stole all my gold. None of the other villains have stolen all my inventory, and right at the start of the game to boot!
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