David *spoiler*

I see some people discussing that AJ could be carvers kid after that last scene in ep 1. I dont think AJ is carvers kid but a lot of people forgot that David took care of AJ for awhile after he kicked Clem out of the group and we all know how David was. Just saying that AJ could've learn some of Davids ways. Shooting marlon like that is totally something David would do.

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  • Great observation, I don’t know why people keep saying it’s carvers kid because yeah sure Carter was a psychopath but David was HHE trigger fin Great observation, I don’t know why people keep saying it’s carvers kid because yeah sure carver was a psychopath but David was an itchy trigger finger, especially when David shot Rufus in episode five of ANF.

  • David took care of AJ for a few months when he was a toddler. Nothing David did would influence AJ's behavior, especially to that degree 4+ years later.

  • David can be a great step dad but he’s an awful awful dad to his biological kids , he abandon Javier and Kate and the rest of his family and took off he didn’t even wants to come to check their status... and assume for the worse without even trying to look Javier was a great uncle and great brother of all depending on how you play Javier taking care of Gabe Mariana since the beginning of the apocalypse .

    That is a true father figure.

    David took care of AJ for a few months when he was a toddler. Nothing David did would influence AJ's behavior, especially to that degree 4+ years later.

  • edited August 2018

    Nah. I don't think AJ's current attitude has anything to do with anything he learned from David.

  • All of what you said is true but idk what it has to do with my point that AJ was too young and spent too little time with David for David's shoot first and ask questions attitude to have influenced AJ so much that he straight up murdered Marlon well after he had surrendered.

    David can be a great step dad but he’s an awful awful dad to his biological kids , he abandon Javier and Kate and the rest of his family

  • Good point actually! David was/is extremely unpredictable and is absolutely someone who would shoot something in the head like that. David was like AJ's dad for a while though, not saying he was all bad, it really seems like he tried his best and probably did save AJ's life.

  • Not long enough. A few months at most, when AJ was less than 2 years old. AJ wouldn't even remember David, let alone anything David may or may not have done around him.

    qualityrice posted: »

    Good point actually! David was/is extremely unpredictable and is absolutely someone who would shoot something in the head like that. David w

  • So why else is AJ acting like a psycho all of a sudden? Is he actually Carver's son? And if you're gonna say "He was born in this world", that doesn't really make sense since Clem has still taught him what's right or wrong his entire life and AJ seems kind of enjoy killing in a strange way. Is it biological or did he learn it from someone?

    Not long enough. A few months at most, when AJ was less than 2 years old. AJ wouldn't even remember David, let alone anything David may or may not have done around him.

  • Personally, I don’t know where AJ gets more of this behavior from?... I mean where does his behavior traits come from Alvin or Rebecca?

    All of what you said is true but idk what it has to do with my point that AJ was too young and spent too little time with David for David's

  • We don't know yet. Something happened at the ranch where AJ was when Clem found him. He talks about it being good until all the blood. I expect we'll find out more about how he and Clem got back together and that may explain why he freaks out and attacks people who sneak up on him and why he murdered Marlon well after Marlon had surrendered.

    qualityrice posted: »

    So why else is AJ acting like a psycho all of a sudden? Is he actually Carver's son? And if you're gonna say "He was born in this world", th

  • In ANF no one says how long AJ was with David. David only says he took care of AJ for awhile. that could be up to one year as far we know. Also in the flash backs AJ was very receptive of wat was going on. Crying/sad when clem was kicked out and laughed at the shadows that kenny made.

    Not long enough. A few months at most, when AJ was less than 2 years old. AJ wouldn't even remember David, let alone anything David may or may not have done around him.

  • this is a good point. I think theres a good chance that telltale will show this.

    We don't know yet. Something happened at the ranch where AJ was when Clem found him. He talks about it being good until all the blood. I exp

  • Never thought of that. Good catch. The way he was ready to kill Fern is just like something AJ would do.

  • Neither of his parents (regardless of if Alvin or Carver were his father) would have any real affect on his behavior unless he inherited a mental condition. His behavior, barring a mental condition, would be purely nurture, not nature. He's grown in a world where human life isn't held in as high regard as we players are used to. People kill each other and go on about their day like it didn't happen, all in the name of survival. My Clem pushed Abel into walkers and has likely killed other people to protect AJ. He probably just thinks killing people is normal.

    Personally, I don’t know where AJ gets more of this behavior from?... I mean where does his behavior traits come from Alvin or Rebecca?

  • We know AJ was taken from Clem during the summer (based on how green everything is during those flashbacks). We also know David told Lingard to save AJ however he could during the harsh winter because people were starving and they couldn't keep AJ around. Because Clem's model doesn't change between the summer AJ was taken from her and Season 3 current game time, which because the model doesn't change means it was at most roughly a year later, it can only be concluded that AJ stayed with David for the remainder of that summer and through the autumn then was sent to the ranch that winter, meaning at best he spent about 4 months with David. We also know, based on the "with Jane" flashbacks that it was only 13 months from the time Jane died to when Clem met up with Ava and New Frontier, which would make 14 or 15 months old when he was taken from her.

    In ANF no one says how long AJ was with David. David only says he took care of AJ for awhile. that could be up to one year as far we know. A

  • ANF's timeline is jank.

  • Yes, yes it is lol.

    DabigRG posted: »

    ANF's timeline is jank.

  • You make a good point, but I have thought AJ was Carvers kid since S2. I hope they tie Carver into the game somehow, that would be soooooo cool. He was probably my favorite villain in the game series.

  • carver was easily the best villain hands down in the series. But sadly i think telltale is done with carver.

    Zeeth posted: »

    You make a good point, but I have thought AJ was Carvers kid since S2. I hope they tie Carver into the game somehow, that would be soooooo cool. He was probably my favorite villain in the game series.

  • I hate to be that guy but I think AJ is too dark to be Carver's kid. Rebecca wasn't all that dark and add white daddy into it and AJ would probably be pretty light, like coffee with too much creamer in it.

    Zeeth posted: »

    You make a good point, but I have thought AJ was Carvers kid since S2. I hope they tie Carver into the game somehow, that would be soooooo cool. He was probably my favorite villain in the game series.

  • I don't think that's exactly how genetics works, dude. :joy:

    I hate to be that guy but I think AJ is too dark to be Carver's kid. Rebecca wasn't all that dark and add white daddy into it and AJ would probably be pretty light, like coffee with too much creamer in it.

  • exactly. If it was carvers kid then he would be the same shade as clem but hes way darker.

    I hate to be that guy but I think AJ is too dark to be Carver's kid. Rebecca wasn't all that dark and add white daddy into it and AJ would probably be pretty light, like coffee with too much creamer in it.

  • That's not how it works dude.

    exactly. If it was carvers kid then he would be the same shade as clem but hes way darker.

  • edited August 2018

    Actually that is how it works with skin color. It's possible there could be recessive genes that skew a mixed baby's skin color one way or another, like if Carver had some black ancestors, but for the most part, if a black person and a white person have a baby, the baby's skin tone is gonna be somewhere in the middle of the parents.

    https://www.quora.com/How-is-skin-color-determined-in-babies-Can-white-and-black-parents-give-birth-to-a-white-child

    DabigRG posted: »

    I don't think that's exactly how genetics works, dude.

  • The article you posted says the baby's color can be anything, so AJ could very well be Carvers kid.

    Actually that is how it works with skin color. It's possible there could be recessive genes that skew a mixed baby's skin color one way or a

  • Yes, could be but only if Carver had black ancestry somewhere. Not impossible, but there's no reason to assume that's the case. The relevant bit was even if one parent is mostly black and the other mostly white, the odds are the kid will be somewhere in the middle of their parents' skin tones, not one or the other.

    Zeeth posted: »

    The article you posted says the baby's color can be anything, so AJ could very well be Carvers kid.

  • I would have pushed Abel as well .

    Neither of his parents (regardless of if Alvin or Carver were his father) would have any real affect on his behavior unless he inherited a m

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