If Clementine died, which character would you want to take care of AJ?

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  • She would most likely act way worse than Louis.

    Well, obviously.

    @Scythenger And louis wanted to take aj's gun and does take it if you let him. Loius wanted to leave clem and aj defenseless

    No, he didn't. He just wanted it for safekeeping until they decided what to do about them and got them where they were going.
    He gives it back before leaving them precisely because he didn't want that.

    MaikelRRR posted: »

    She cared about Clem, but it indeed wasn't really any act of trust and friendship. If Minevra was still there and she would be on Marlon's place then I highly doubt that Violet would act that way. She would most likely act way worse than Louis.

  • edited October 2018

    And who are you to say what I type and say is pointless and bs? That's one of the reasons why I would prefer not to talk to you. It doesn't matter what we were talking about. Initially there was no talk about anything. Vi and aj have a bond. Vi protects aj. Vi let aj continue to draw. Vi says it's okay for aj to go fishing. In the first ep if the player lets aj pay his respects I consider that to be bonding. When vi goes to look for the box and sits down and talks to clem aj is present and can hear everything vi says. And then there's the fishing scene.
    There is a bond. It's not huge but it doesn't need to be because aj likes vi and vi not only likes aj too but she's protective of him and that's what matters.
    And it doesn't matter if loius gave the gun back. The fact that he wanted to take the gun away in the first place is the problem.
    Just like him playing zombie pinata and him deciding to go on piano duty. Vi is more level headed, more mature, understands priorities, and doesn't goof or slack off when things need to get done. And vi takes things seriously.

    MaikelRRR posted: »

    Can I reply to you sir? Or I can't again because you are right, I'm clearly not and you are not willing to discuss? First off - Louis gav

  • Alright, let's just leave it at this: Louis and AJ's bond is stronger and it seems AJ likes Louis just a tiny bit more, but Violet and AJ also have a bond and AJ sees no faults with her. There isn't enough material for us to talk about AJ and Vi's bond but I'm sure that'll come later on. To have a bond with someone it doesn't mean you need to starve for them (louis) And, to help out @Scythenger here, perhaps it isn't about a bond, but rather who you trust AJ with more. Violet isn't Jane, we know she's not a deserter, she and Clem worked really hard to prepare the school and they also motivated/inspired Louis to help a lot more. The bond between Lou and AJ is just a mere reason to answer OP, but there are an array of other reasons for choosing Louis/Violet, many of which Scythenger listed. And I think a lot of them are valid. So, actually, to answer the title question, it's just like 'who's the better ship' as it's not as lobsided as 'who is the better Carer for S2 Clem: Kenny or Jane? (Jane hung herself when things got tough, soo..)'

    For example, Clementine and Omid don't have a bond, but I'd say Omid would be a better carer than Christa, but it's just opinion and there are lots of reasons to back both. Btw I don't want to get into an argument either because I'm supposed to be doing homework, I won't state my opinion and I'm just a bystander to this 'argument'. This is just my way of looking at it and how the bond maybe isn't as important as you're shaping it up to be. And it's not even a powerful Lee and Clem bond, either. Just a brotherhood.

    MaikelRRR posted: »

    Can I reply to you sir? Or I can't again because you are right, I'm clearly not and you are not willing to discuss? First off - Louis gav

  • He wanted to take it. He says something like what am I thinking. I can't leave you out here defenseless then he gives it back. Which to me means he had every intention on keeping the gun but realized how dumb and stupid it was to leave a kid and the girl he said he likes out in the woods defenseless.

    DabigRG posted: »

    She would most likely act way worse than Louis. Well, obviously. @Scythenger And louis wanted to take aj's gun and does take

  • Thank you.

    Ghetsis posted: »

    Alright, let's just leave it at this: Louis and AJ's bond is stronger and it seems AJ likes Louis just a tiny bit more, but Violet and AJ al

  • If we're talking about a specific topic and you are writing a response that is not releated to it then it's simply pointless.

    I don't consider few smiles a bond, but actually in this case - IT'S YOUR OPINION THAT WAS ARGUMENTED BY YOU. You have something to back you up and if you really think that then FINE... even though I would never really call it a bond.

    Of course it does matter that he gave that gun back because that shows he cared about their safety. He had every reason to take this gun from him. It would be strange if he didnt especially by looking at fact that Louis wasn't fan of him having it in the first place during their first meeting.

    You have a problem with Louis going to play a piano and you're not having a problem with Violet looking at constellations on the belltower. It is simply being a hyprocrite. A biased hyprocrite to be more precisive.

    Scythenger posted: »

    And who are you to say what I type and say is pointless and bs? That's one of the reasons why I would prefer not to talk to you. It doesn't

  • Keep.

    Scythenger posted: »

    He wanted to take it. He says something like what am I thinking. I can't leave you out here defenseless then he gives it back. Which to me m

  • edited October 2018

    There's no reason to type in
    caps and highlighted letters. I'm glad you understand what an opinion is. If only you realized that in my first post that was about the topic of this thread.
    Clem comments on the defenses. Then vi says we couldn't have done it without you. Vi is shown looking down at the defenses too. Vi did what she said. I'd consider vi looking at the defenses while clem goes through a list of the defenses as checking them. That's just my opinion though.
    After doing that and clem commenting on the defenses and vi replying to that vi asks clem if she has time to hangout. Louis wanted to leave aj who is a child defenseless. Louis does temporarily leave aj defenseless if aj gives him the gun.
    It doesn't matter if louis gives the gun back. It doesn't undo his past dumb action of taking the gun or makes him wanting to take the gun away in the first place any less stupid.

    MaikelRRR posted: »

    If we're talking about a specific topic and you are writing a response that is not releated to it then it's simply pointless. I don't con

  • Thank you.

    DabigRG posted: »

    Keep.

  • Oh wow. She looked at defences for few seconds! Absolutely great and super necessary thing she has done! What a characher she is! Woooo!!!!

    Louis doesn't temporarily leave AJ defenseless because in case you forgot - Violet and Louis were excorting them there so they were temporarily protected by them. When they stopped being, Louis gave it back. It's not to hard to understand for a normal person. Yeah, normal is the key word here. If someone is as biased as you then even the easiest situation can be understood wrong.

    There isn't really any sense in talking to you as you are probably the biggest hypocrite and the most biased person on this site. And even though I really support Clouis, I still can talk good about Violet and her good sides because I'm not biased at Louis' character. You on the other hand - you simply hate Louis. You simply don't even look at his good sides. Everything he does and says is bad, dumb and stupid since you look at his whole character through the prism of "Violet is the best in every aspect, Louis is the worst in every aspect reeeeeeeeeee". Is it your complex?

    Scythenger posted: »

    There's no reason to type in caps and highlighted letters. I'm glad you understand what an opinion is. If only you realized that in my firs

  • Okay, I'm say it again: both of you cool it. Or better yet, just stop.

    MaikelRRR posted: »

    Oh wow. She looked at defences for few seconds! Absolutely great and super necessary thing she has done! What a characher she is! Woooo!!!!

  • Yeah I think it's for the best. I can't stand this guy. There is no point in discussing with people that are not even willing to look at some things from different perspective.

    DabigRG posted: »

    Okay, I'm say it again: both of you cool it. Or better yet, just stop.

  • edited October 2018

    I've said some good things about louis. Just because I'm not obesssed with him and don't think he's the best twd character ever doesn't mean I hate him. I don't like him and obviously I prefer vi. But I'm not bashing him every single day of every hour. I'm not going to the clouis ship thread and trash talking him either. Aj doesn't have a weapon to defend himself. He's defenseless in that regard. Not that difficult to understand. And there doesn't seem to be any point in talking to you. You're acting childish and immature. I don't like louis. You seem to be the only person who cares about that though. And you take it way too seriously.

    MaikelRRR posted: »

    Oh wow. She looked at defences for few seconds! Absolutely great and super necessary thing she has done! What a characher she is! Woooo!!!!

  • MaikelRRRMaikelRRR Banned
    edited October 2018

    It's pretty obvious that we won't come to any agreements there. You don't seem to like talking to me and I don't like talking to you. Let's just stop it, alright? Will be better for you, me and the rest of people visiting this thread.

    Scythenger posted: »

    I've said some good things about louis. Just because I'm not obesssed with him and don't think he's the best twd character ever doesn't mean

  • edited October 2018

    I agree with that. What agreement would you like to come to exactly? Both characters have flaws but also positives. Both characters are good for clem in their own ways. Both characters care about aj and would be good choices to look after him. I personally think vi is better though just like how you personally think louis is better. Is this the agreement you were looking for?

    MaikelRRR posted: »

    It's pretty obvious that we won't come to any agreements there. You don't seem to like talking to me and I don't like talking to you. Let's just stop it, alright? Will be better for you, me and the rest of people visiting this thread.

  • u already know
    da homie louis
    I think AJ can take care of himself at this point though, he just needs some guidance on like life skills and such lol.

  • I know right? I thought I stopped the convo with my great post. That was meant to be the cessation to all of this carnage.

    DabigRG posted: »

    Okay, I'm say it again: both of you cool it. Or better yet, just stop.

  • 2 biased people trying to call the other more biased, so funny

    Ghetsis posted: »

    I know right? I thought I stopped the convo with my great post. That was meant to be the cessation to all of this carnage.

  • Yeah. It has to be pretty funny for all the other people to read out little char here hehe.

    2 biased people trying to call the other more biased, so funny

  • I'd want both Violet and Louis to take care of him since I trust them. However if they die then Imma have to face the music that ANF exists and trust Javi to take him.

  • Coming back to this after episode 3, I still think AJ is better off by himself and that's why I'm making sure he has a total survival mindset incase Clem doesn't make it.

    I think Louis and AJ's "bond" is overstated. AJ just wants to be friends with everyone so that's nothing, and even Louis himself was still very hesitant to rekindle his "friendship" AJ halfway through Episode 2. That's not a good characteristic. Sure Louis on the surface, looks to be the more "cool" parent that affirms AJ's more caring and playful side but you can't forget this is the apocalypse. I just don't think Louis has an ounce of a chance of saving himself, let alone AJ, once he leaves the area of the safe zone and the general vicinity of that area. And you can't tell me all of those kids are gonna stay in that school forever.

    But I'd also say there's literally no development between Vi and AJ during Episode 3 if you saved her. So again, no real potential of them being best friends. I think as general caretakers everyone at the school is fine. But clearly there's no one that could properly replace Clem.

    I really hope Omar just has a surge of screentime next episode.

  • preferably louis and violet. if only one of them, i GUESS louis, but he has periods of being unstable so i feel like violet could be better trusted with his safety, even if she is a depressing bitch

  • edited January 2019

    Violet really is just the safe option.

    Again, it's because Clem is too perfect. Clem can be strict and hard with AJ AND be playful and caring. There's clear motherly/parental instincts that Clem possesses that Vi and Louis don't have despite being trapped in a school with little kids for the entire duration of the apocalypse. Clem also just has more of a natural attachment. AJ is her world.

    preferably louis and violet. if only one of them, i GUESS louis, but he has periods of being unstable so i feel like violet could be better trusted with his safety, even if she is a depressing bitch

  • I'd have Conrad look after him.

  • Eh, still Ruby. If he even needs a guardian anyway.

  • But I'd also say there's literally no development between Vi and AJ during Episode 3 if you saved her

    I got a scene at the party where Violet talks to AJ and it was kinda cool.

    I still think Violet is the best choice for AJ if Clem dies imo.

    Coming back to this after episode 3, I still think AJ is better off by himself and that's why I'm making sure he has a total survival mindse

  • Still want her to take care of AJ now?

    iFoRias posted: »

    My girl Violet.

  • She stayed loyal in my game and i romanced her and she shot Minnie so uh..Yeah lol.

    Still want her to take care of AJ now?

  • edited January 2019

    Ah ok, so if it happened to be the other scenario and you were in Clem’s shoes, would you still want her to take care of him?

    iFoRias posted: »

    She stayed loyal in my game and i romanced her and she shot Minnie so uh..Yeah lol.

  • By the way, i still wouldn’t be surprised if Violet backstabs Clem in the next episode anyway given how quick she was to try and help Minerva after shooting her. Looks to me like she still has feelings for her

    iFoRias posted: »

    She stayed loyal in my game and i romanced her and she shot Minnie so uh..Yeah lol.

  • Well no she's starting to get brainwashed in the other path,but in my path yes.

    Ah ok, so if it happened to be the other scenario and you were in Clem’s shoes, would you still want her to take care of him?

  • She doesn't she shot her and said that she'll catch up.

    By the way, i still wouldn’t be surprised if Violet backstabs Clem in the next episode anyway given how quick she was to try and help Minerva after shooting her. Looks to me like she still has feelings for her

  • She shot her and then seemed to comfort her so she obviously still cares about her. Just saying, I wouldn’t be surprised if she betrays Clem in ep4 anyway

    iFoRias posted: »

    She doesn't she shot her and said that she'll catch up.

  • edited January 2019

    I mean she stayed with Minnie probably because they needed to have Clem be alone for the final confrontation with lilly or whatever.

    But i've talked about it before and Violet betraying Clem if you saved her literally makes no sense at all,she kept talking about how Minnie changed and how she's one of them,then romanced my clem and all that,that would just be stupid the writers knows that.

    She shot her and then seemed to comfort her so she obviously still cares about her. Just saying, I wouldn’t be surprised if she betrays Clem in ep4 anyway

  • Yes it would be stupid but sadly it wouldn’t surprise me given how stupid Telltale writers have been in the past and the way they have handled Lilly this season proves that

    iFoRias posted: »

    I mean she stayed with Minnie probably because they needed to have Clem be alone for the final confrontation with lilly or whatever. But

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