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Doctor Who - The End of Tennant

Darth MarsdenDarth Marsden
edited January 2010 in General Chat
So, who saw it? Who thought it was way better then the first part? Who can't wait to see Matt Smith in action? Who was disappointed there wasn't a preview of the next series?

Me!

And you guys as well, I guess. But mostly me.
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  • puzzleboxpuzzlebox Telltale Alumni
    edited January 2010
    You beat me to creating the thread! :p

    That was brilliant!! Way better than the first part. What a beautiful exit for the tenth Doctor.

    Who else cried through most of the ending?
  • coolsomecoolsome
    edited January 2010
    that was the best ever!!!!!!! I cant belive the presdent was
    rassalon
    that was to epic for words!!!!!!
  • coolsomecoolsome
    edited January 2010
    puzzlebox wrote: »
    You beat me to creating the thread! :p

    That was brilliant!! Way better than the first part. What a beautiful exit for the tenth Doctor.

    Who else cried through most of the ending?

    I also crye when
    the master blasted rassilon and dissperard
  • RawrRawr
    edited January 2010
    Series Preview - http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/s4/characters/doctor11

    I have to admit I'll miss David Tennant, thought he was epic as The Doctor. Not seen Matt Smith in anything so I can't really compare. I just hope he manages to continue on the glory.

    Ending was really well done, very sad. Although I wtf'd at Martha Jones and Mickey? Did they get together in that Waters on Mars episode that I missed or something?
  • Darth MarsdenDarth Marsden
    edited January 2010
    I'm thinking that was just playful banter. I hope.

    Should just point out that the preview (this one) is for UK residents only, but it's only a matter of time before someone puts it on YouTube.
  • S@breS@bre
    edited January 2010
    The actual story was utterly rubbish. The whole Time Lord returning stuff with Timothy Dalton was just under-used and under-developed. Dalton just stepped out a white light, got hit by lightening and went back into the light. They could have done so much more with him and that part of the storyline. The preceding episode was one of the few I thought was absolutely terrible. That said, how they went about it from the point from where it was clear he was dying, that last 20 minutes, was very well done.
  • Darth MarsdenDarth Marsden
    edited January 2010
    The thing to note with Mr Dalton is that:
    Timothy Dalton was, in fact, playing Rassilon, a Time Lord gone very, very bad and/or mad. Which makes the whole 'I will not die' aspect much more meaningful. It's great if you happen to be a die-hard Doctor Who fan who actually knows who Rassilon is, but otherwise it's just another line.
    But the ending, in which the Master took his (kinda deserved) revenge upon Rassilon for putting the drumming into his head which drove him so very, very mad, was a nice way for John Simm to end his story - this time, anyway. He's not dead, just on Gallifrey with the rest of the Time Lords. So he can come back at some point. Huzzah.

    And Rassilon didn't just step out of a white light - he brought the whole planet of Gallifrey into orbit around Earth. There's not an awful lot more he could have done, from an acting standpoint.
  • FriarFriar
    edited January 2010
    I have to say, that was quite spectacular. And i feel it was about the right time for Tennant to leave. It was his 47th episode, afterall. That trailer seems to show that they are going down a more mature direction with the series, which i believe is for the best. Especially with moffat at the helm (writer of the empty child/the doctor dances, the girl in the fireplace, Blink, and silence in the library/forest of the dead)

    Also, as a side note, does anyone else think they were trying to relaunch torchwood with Mickey&Martha? And i thought Martha was married...
  • puzzleboxpuzzlebox Telltale Alumni
    edited January 2010
    Confidential was also pretty awesome. Tennant gets all emotional at the end of his last day (aww), and there's a nice montage of moments from the past few series.
    Rawr wrote: »
    Series Preview - http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/s4/characters/doctor11

    Great preview! Looks like the stone angels from Blink are going to make a reappearance. I'm so very VERY excited - roll on, springtime! :D
  • coolsomecoolsome
    edited January 2010
    Darth Marsden wrote: »
    The thing to note with Mr Dalton is that:
    Timothy Dalton was, in fact, playing Rassilon, a Time Lord gone very, very bad and/or mad. Which makes the whole 'I will not die' aspect much more meaningful. It's great if you happen to be a die-hard Doctor Who fan who actually knows who Rassilon is, but otherwise it's just another line.
    But the ending, in which the Master took his (kinda deserved) revenge upon Rassilon for putting the drumming into his head which drove him so very, very mad, was a nice way for John Simm to end his story - this time, anyway. He's not dead, just on Gallifrey with the rest of the Time Lords. So he can come back at some point. Huzzah.

    And Rassilon didn't just step out of a white light - he brought the whole planet of Gallifrey into orbit around Earth. There's not an awful lot more he could have done, from an acting standpoint.


    wikipedia helps newer or less hard core fans XD my jaw dropped at that XD I kinda thought he was the black gaurdian and the woman was the white one
  • Darth MarsdenDarth Marsden
    edited January 2010
    Friar wrote: »
    I have to say, that was quite spectacular. And i feel it was about the right time for Tennant to leave. It was his 47th episode, afterall. That trailer seems to show that they are going down a more mature direction with the series, which i believe is for the best. Especially with moffat at the helm (writer of the empty child/the doctor dances, the girl in the fireplace, Blink, and silence in the library/forest of the dead)

    Also, as a side note, does anyone else think they were trying to relaunch torchwood with Mickey&Martha? And i thought Martha was married...
    Mature? I'm sorry, I didn't notice with all the running and the Geronimo and that final line that should never actually be said by THE Doctor. Don't get me wrong, it looks good, but more mature? Hmm.

    And as I said earlier, I'm hoping the Martha/Mickey thing was just playful banter. If not, then Martha's divorced a very disappointed Doctor...
  • FriarFriar
    edited January 2010
    Darth Marsden wrote: »
    Mature? I'm sorry, I didn't notice with all the running and the Geronimo and that final line that should never actually be said by THE Doctor. Don't get me wrong, it looks good, but more mature? Hmm.

    And as I said earlier, I'm hoping the Martha/Mickey thing was just playful banter. If not, then Martha's divorced a very disappointed Doctor...

    Doctor+ Gun (yes i know he had one in this episode, but he was very reluctant for it), Vampires, He punched one man, and hit the dalek with something, plus the angels are back. Maybe mature was the wrong word.

    Anyway, MS reminds me a little of Pertwee's Doctor.
  • Darth MarsdenDarth Marsden
    edited January 2010
    Friar wrote: »
    Doctor+ Gun (yes i know he had one in this episode, but he was very reluctant for it), Vampires, He punched one man, and hit the dalek with something, plus the angels are back. Maybe mature was the wrong word.

    Anyway, MS reminds me a little of Pertwee's Doctor.
    Not at all sure what to make of the series so far. I'd urge people to stay away from the Wikipedia page for Series Five, ruddy great spoilers there. But having read what I have, I'd say it does seem interesting.

    We've not seen an awful lot of MS, so I'll wait for more before making a proper opinion. But so far, he seems more a cross between Pertwee and Tennant. But there we go.
  • coolsomecoolsome
    edited January 2010
    I just wana say the end of time series (Part 1 and 2) is the best doctor who story evar!!!
  • W&G156W&G156
    edited January 2010
    i think a good way to start Matt Smiths series would be to make a proper doctor who game. Also they should do LEGO Doctor Who. Think. The LEGO levels could be ones for each Doctor.
  • Darth MarsdenDarth Marsden
    edited January 2010
    W&G156 wrote: »
    i think a good way to start Matt Smiths series would be to make a proper doctor who game. Also they should do LEGO Doctor Who. Think. The LEGO levels could be ones for each Doctor.
    This idea is made of win. I think I want this even more than I want a Telltale Futurama series.
  • GaryCXJkGaryCXJk
    edited January 2010
    Just give us LEGO Doctor Who and I won't even talk about Telltale Doctor Who.

    I can imagine it already:

    Lego Doctor Who: The New Blocks! Chronicling the new series, from Rose to the End of Time!

    Imagine the Master race being born! Freaking hilarious!
  • Darth MarsdenDarth Marsden
    edited January 2010
    The spinning heads might be intentionally funny that way!

    And what about Lego Doctor Who: The Classic Blocks - a series of three games (one for Docs 1,2 and 3, another for 4 and 5, and a third for 6, 7 and 8) based upon the classic series. Oh, I can already see Genesis of the Daleks being 'bricked' in my head...

    Someone petition the BBC and Travellers Tales to do it already!
  • coolsomecoolsome
    edited January 2010
    you could play as the master on the evil side like lego batman had good and evil side
  • Darth MarsdenDarth Marsden
    edited January 2010
    No no no, you haven't thought this through. You have five chapters, one for each series and another for the specials at the end of Tennant's reign, and you take the best stories from each series and use them as individual levels.

    So for Series One, you'd have, say, 6 or 7 levels - in Rose, The End of the World, Aliens in London, Dalek, The Empty Child and The Parting of the Ways you'd play as Eccleston, and in The Christmas Invasion you'd play as Tennant in Eccleston's outfit.*

    Series Two, you'd have New Earth, School Reunion, The Girl in the Fireplace, Rise of the Cybermen, The Satan Pit, Doomsday and The Runaway Bride.

    Series Three, Smith and Jones, The Shakespeare Code, Evolution of the Daleks, Human Nature/The Family of Blood**, The Sounds of Drums and Last of the Time Lords (two levels***), along with Voyage of the Damned.

    Series Four, Partners in Crime, Planet of the Ood, The Sontaran Strategem, The Doctor's Daughter, The Unicorn and the Wasp, Silence in the Library and Journey's End.

    The Specials would be The Next Doctor, Planet of the Dead, The Waters of Mars, The End of Time (Part One) and The End of Time (Part Two). Possibly Dreamland as well, but that's debatable.

    And, naturally, the hub through which you can access all of these chapters and levels would be the TARDIS.

    *The cutscene would have Eccleston's Doctor trying to regenerate, but not being able to do it, so instead he just takes his hairpiece off and swaps it for Tennant's. Genius!
    **I prefer the second name, to avoid confusion with the book also called Human Nature, which these episodes are based on.
    ***You play the Doctor in the first level trying to stop the Master, and Martha in the second level trying to rescue the Doctor.
  • coolsomecoolsome
    edited January 2010
    what about the classic series?
  • MrsBBCMrsBBC
    edited January 2010
    Meh, I have never watched an episode of Doctor Who because it looks shit.

    But, Matt Smith is a cracking actor.
    In the UK he played Jim Taylor in 'The Shadow in the North' and 'The Ruby in the Smoke'; the BBC's adaptations of Phillip Pullman's first two Sally Lockhart books.

    Yeah!
  • FriarFriar
    edited January 2010
    MrsBBC wrote: »
    Meh, I have never watched an episode of Doctor Who because it looks shit.

    But, Matt Smith is a cracking actor.
    In the UK he played Jim Taylor in 'The Shadow in the North' and 'The Ruby in the Smoke'; the BBC's adaptations of Phillip Pullman's first two Sally Lockhart books.

    Yeah!

    Wasn't Billie Piper (rose) in that aswell?
  • Darth MarsdenDarth Marsden
    edited January 2010
    Friar wrote: »
    Wasn't Billie Piper (rose) in that aswell?
    She was, playing the lead character. I'm almost positive that they've shared background actors as well, so it's a veritable bonanza of interdimensional cross-overs!
    Sailorcuteness wrote: »
    what about the classic series?
    I quote myself for the answer to this:
    Darth Marsden wrote: »
    And what about Lego Doctor Who: The Classic Blocks? A series of three games (one for Docs 1,2 and 3, another for 4 and 5, and a third for 6, 7 and 8) based upon the classic series. Oh, I can already see Genesis of the Daleks being 'bricked' in my head...
    If you want, I can go into detail on these as well, but that might be a wee bit too geeky, even for this place.
  • W&G156W&G156
    edited January 2010
    I want to start an online pole on telltale were people can say if LEGO Doctor Who is a good idea. If hundreds or millions of people say yes it is a good idea then i could send a letter to BBC, LEGO and Travellers Tales with the amount of people who said yes on it and see if they think it is a good idea.

    In the meantime please keep suggesting ideas for the game.
  • FriarFriar
    edited January 2010
    W&G156 wrote: »
    I want to start an online pole on telltale were people can say if LEGO Doctor Who is a good idea. If hundreds or millions of people say yes it is a good idea then i could send a letter to BBC, LEGO and Travellers Tales with the amount of people who said yes on it and see if they think it is a good idea.

    In the meantime please keep suggesting ideas for the game.
    Unfortunatley, Petitions never work. And you'd get much better luck making it on the Travellers tales website. I doubt they would make it though. Limited marketability in the States. It may be popular, but nowhere near as popular as Harry potter/Starwars/Indianna jones/batman.

    OT: Am i the only one who can't stop watching the regeneration repeatedly?
  • GuybrushWilcoGuybrushWilco
    edited January 2010
    I thought the plot was really weird. I think the ending part was great though. Tennant was the best doctor yet. I should also mention that American's like me can view the trailer for the new season here on BBC America's website: http://www.bbcamerica.com/content/123/doctor-who-video.jsp?bclid=59272646001&bctid=59919891001
  • Sorth_31Sorth_31
    edited January 2010
    Liked tennant a lot. Really one of the more identifiable docors, since he was so, well, human I suppose.

    For me however the best character(s) of the recent reincarnation are the cybermen. Still dislike their treatment as the Daleks whipping horse.

    *sniffle* I miss you my monstrous metal masters.
  • FriarFriar
    edited January 2010
    Just rewatched it, and i have to say, it really felt like the end of an era. All his companions were wrapped up, and all his new enemies made an appearance in the mos eisely jacks cantina.
  • Darth MarsdenDarth Marsden
    edited January 2010
    Who's to say the Cybermen are gone? They may crop up again at some point. On the plus side, this year we have
    Daleks in World War 2, Silurians, Sea Devils and Weeping Angels
    to look forward to. Aren't we lucky?

    And since someone asked for it...

    Lego Doctor Who - The Classic Blocks - Volume I

    Chapter One - William Hartnell

    Levels - The Daleks (aka The Mutants and The Dead Planet), Marco Polo, The Dalek Invasion of Earth, The Romans, The Time Meddler, The Myth Makers, The Massacre (of St Bartholomew's Eve) and The Tenth Planet [Total - 9]

    Chapter Two - Patrick Troughton

    Levels - The Power of the Daleks, The Highlanders, The Macra Terror, The Tomb of the Cybermen, The Ice Warriors, The Web of Fear, The Invasion, The Space Pirates and The War Games [Total - 9]

    Chapter Three - Jon Pertwee

    Levels - Spearhead from Space, Inferno, The Claws of Axos, The Curse of Peladon, The Sea Devils, The Three Doctors, The Green Death, Invasion (of the Dinosaurs) and Planet of the Spiders [Total - 9]
  • W&G156W&G156
    edited January 2010
    We need LEGO Doctor Who!!! At the moment we know that the next LEGO game is LEGO Harry Potter Years 1-4. During the gap before another LEGO Harry Potter LEGO have to make a LEGO Doctor Who game!!! It is soooooooooooo obvious that people want a LEGO Doctor Who game. Besides previous Doctor Who games have been terrible (in my opinion). And it can make Doctor Who even better than it is.

    There's only one thing. Can someone send ideas of LEGO Dalek. I cant think of one. In the meantime here are 2 pictures of Doctor Who LEGO i found.

    http://www.matthewsland.com/doctorwho/images/leogwho1.JPG

    http://www.matthewsland.com/doctorwho/images/legowho2.JPG
  • FriarFriar
    edited January 2010
    W&G156 wrote: »
    We need LEGO Doctor Who!!! At the moment we know that the next LEGO game is LEGO Harry Potter Years 1-4. During the gap before another LEGO Harry Potter LEGO have to make a LEGO Doctor Who game!!! It is soooooooooooo obvious that people want a LEGO Doctor Who game. Besides previous Doctor Who games have been terrible (in my opinion). And it can make Doctor Who even better than it is.

    There's only one thing. Can someone send ideas of LEGO Dalek. I cant think of one. In the meantime here are 2 pictures of Doctor Who LEGO i found.

    http://www.matthewsland.com/doctorwho/images/leogwho1.JPG

    http://www.matthewsland.com/doctorwho/images/legowho2.JPG

    Wow, that cyberman is pretty awesome.

    @darth Marsden: I always thought there was the possibility for New Earth to be revealed as Mondas (home of the real cybermen), which was essentially a twin earth (just like NE).
  • Darth MarsdenDarth Marsden
    edited January 2010
    Friar wrote: »
    @darth Marsden: I always thought there was the possibility for New Earth to be revealed as Mondas (home of the real cybermen), which was essentially a twin earth (just like NE).
    You're forgetting that Earth having a twin planet called Mondas which just happened to have humans on it as well and somehow drifted off into the furthest reaches of space is a really stupid idea.

    Besides, I'm pretty sure 'New Earth' was just a standard planet that was terraformed after people got nostalgic for an Earth-like planet once Earth itself got frazzled. I think. I'm not digging my DVD boxset out just to confirm that!

    Also: Lego Daleks. Just glue those small buttons onto the sides like this, and you're away.

    EDIT: Here, you can make your own Cyberman as well.
  • FriarFriar
    edited January 2010
    Darth Marsden wrote: »
    You're forgetting that Earth having a twin planet called Mondas which just happened to have humans on it as well and somehow drifted off into the furthest reaches of space is a really stupid idea.

    Besides, I'm pretty sure 'New Earth' was just a standard planet that was terraformed after people got nostalgic for an Earth-like planet once Earth itself got frazzled. I think. I'm not digging my DVD boxset out just to confirm that!

    Also: Lego Daleks. Just glue those small buttons onto the sides like this, and you're away.

    EDIT: Here, you can make your own Cyberman as well.

    Mondas did exist in doctor who mythology. And it was a barren wasteland, just as the humans discovered New earth.
    click here I think it would be possible to link the two very easily. Afterall, continents shift (and humans shifted them back again with earth).
  • Darth MarsdenDarth Marsden
    edited January 2010
    I didn't say Mondas never existed, just that it was a silly idea, which I stand by. Also, I believe Mondas was destroyed at the end of The Tenth Planet, so it couldn't have been used as a New Earth.

    And now, for no other reason than that I've had a really bad day and need something to cheer me up...

    Lego Doctor Who - The Classic Blocks - Volume II

    Chapter One - Tom Baker (The Early Years)

    Levels - The Sontaran Experiment, Genesis of the Daleks, Terror of the Zygons, Pyramids of Mars, The Seeds of Doom, The Hand of Fear, The Robots of Death, The Talons of Weng-Chiang and The Invasion of Time [Total - 9]

    Chapter Two - Tom Baker (The Later Years)

    Levels - The Key to Time (Parts I, II and III), City of Death, The Creature From the Pit, The Leisure Hive, Meglos, The Keeper of Traken and Logopolis [Total - 9]

    Chapter Three - Peter Davison

    Levels - Four to Doomsday, Black Orchid, Earthshock, Mawdryn Undead, Enlightenment, The Five Doctors, The Awakening, Resurrection of the Daleks and The Caves of Androzani [Total - 9]
  • coolsomecoolsome
    edited January 2010
    I want an unlockable option to play as the master! maybe once the games done and you replay levels
  • Darth MarsdenDarth Marsden
    edited January 2010
    He's a purchasable character. All 6 different incarnations of him (to tie in with 'Mister Saxon' being an anagram of 'Master No. Six' ). Which version you can get depends on which volume you play!

    Lego Doctor Who - The Classic Blocks - Volume III

    Chapter One - Colin Baker

    Levels - The Twin Dilemma, Attack of the Cybermen, Vengeance on Varos, The Mark of the Rani, Revelation of the Daleks and The Trial of a Time Lord (all four parts) [Total - 9]

    Chapter Two - Sylvester McCoy

    Levels - Time and the Rabni, Delta and the Bannermen, Dragonfire, Remembrance of the Daleks, The Happiness Patrol, The greatest Show in the Galaxy, Ghost Light, The Curse of Fenric and Survival [Levels - 9]

    Chapter Three - Paul McGann

    Levels - The Movie (aka The Enemy Within) - [Audio Adventures] - Storm Warning, The Sword of Orion, Invaders from Mars, The Chimes of Midnight, Blood of the Daleks, The Zygon Who Fell to Earth, Worldwide Web and Death in Blackpool [Total - 9]
  • coolsomecoolsome
    edited January 2010
    battlefild 4 chapter 2 should be downloadble contact
  • Darth MarsdenDarth Marsden
    edited January 2010
    Well, it's just an example. Not exactly set in stone or anything.
  • coolsomecoolsome
    edited January 2010
    Darth Marsden wrote: »
    Well, it's just an example. Not exactly set in stone or anything.

    yh but holding things back then getting ppl to pay 4 them later is a great/evil busnses practis XD
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