Dr Who Adventure game now available

edited June 2010 in General Chat
Someone at BBC has made a boo boo lol

http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/dw/theadventuregames/download/cityofthedaleks

Its not suppose to be available till Saturday but its up on the site for download. Folks in the US won't be able to download it until July.
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  • edited June 2010
    Yeah, I'm disappointed, being in the states and whatnot. I had been told the game was free, but it talks about it being available for purchase. Is it free in Britain but not in the states? Sad day.
  • edited June 2010
    Nimeni wrote: »
    Yeah, I'm disappointed, being in the states and whatnot. I had been told the game was free, but it talks about it being available for purchase. Is it free in Britain but not in the states? Sad day.

    Its free in the UK but as you said there will be a pay charge for the US.
  • edited June 2010
    Nimeni wrote: »
    Yeah, I'm disappointed, being in the states and whatnot. I had been told the game was free, but it talks about it being available for purchase. Is it free in Britain but not in the states? Sad day.
    Well, we payed for it with our License fees. At least you guys are still getting it!
  • edited June 2010
    Hopefully it won't be too much. Have they put a price on it, yet? I'd like to play, but I have to admit it's frustrating to think of paying for a game that others are getting free.

    Edit: What do you mean license fees?
  • edited June 2010
    What's weird is that not even the interviews (Charles Cecil) are available outside the UK. Oh well, give it a day and it will be on the net.
  • edited June 2010
    Well spotted there Threepwood4Life! I had actually forgotten this was coming out :P
  • edited June 2010
    Nimeni wrote: »
    Hopefully it won't be too much. Have they put a price on it, yet? I'd like to play, but I have to admit it's frustrating to think of paying for a game that others are getting free.

    Edit: What do you mean license fees?

    Click Here
    In the UK, we pay £145 annually per household for a TV license. This funds all the BBC channels, and the BBC radio channels. In return, programmes are aired without advert breaks (only trailers for programmes appear between programmes), and the money has also been used to fund the digital switchover. This TV license fee is compulsory if you own a TV in the UK.
  • edited June 2010
    Ahh. I see. I suppose that evens things out a bit, then.
  • puzzleboxpuzzlebox Telltale Alumni
    edited June 2010
    Thanks for the heads-up, Threepwood4Life. :)
    Friar wrote: »
    This TV license fee is compulsory if you own a TV in the UK.

    I find it kind of odd that you can not own a TV (and not pay the licence fee) and just watch a lot of BBC content on iPlayer... but it's the people who own TVs who fund that service.
  • edited June 2010
    puzzlebox wrote: »
    Thanks for the heads-up, Threepwood4Life. :)



    I find it kind of odd that you can not own a TV (and not pay the licence fee) and just watch a lot of BBC content on iPlayer... but it's the people who own TVs who fund that service.

    Actully I think it says something somewhere on BBC iPlayer that your not allowed to watch it without one. Well that or it was just talking about the live feed.
  • edited June 2010
    I definately didn't use a proxy to download this right now.
  • edited June 2010
    How is this different from purchasing cable in the US? Because you can't watch BBC America unless you have purchased the channel.
  • puzzleboxpuzzlebox Telltale Alumni
    edited June 2010
    mr_nutt wrote: »
    Actully I think it says something somewhere on BBC iPlayer that your not allowed to watch it without one. Well that or it was just talking about the live feed.

    That would just be the live feed. From the TV licensing people:
    You need to be covered by a valid TV Licence if you watch or record TV as it's being broadcast. This includes the use of devices such as a computer, laptop, mobile phone or DVD/video recorder.

    And from the BBC iPlayer terms and conditions:
    bbc wrote:
    You may not watch television programmes using BBC iPlayer on any device (including mobile phones, laptops and personal computers) at the same time (or virtually the same time) as the programmes are being broadcast, simulcast or otherwise made available to members of the public on television unless you have a valid television licence.
    How is this different from purchasing cable in the US? Because you can't watch BBC America unless you have purchased the channel.

    It's not purchasing the channel, it doesn't matter whether you want to watch the BBC or not - it's a fee you pay just for owning a TV.
  • edited June 2010
    How is this different from purchasing cable in the US? Because you can't watch BBC America unless you have purchased the channel.
    Well, by my understanding, Cable is similair to satellite TV (we don't get Cable as such, just the normal 4/5 terrestrial channels in some areas still, plus digital/satellite TV). Given that they have subscription fees tied in with them aswell, or require you to pay for the box, or even both, i think it's still fair that we get it for free and you lot don't. Provided that the overall cost isn't too great. (i would say maybe $20 tops, for all 4 episodes)

    Anyway, just completed the first episode. It turned out much better than i expected, but i does focus a little too much on the stealth side. Here's hoping the next episode features more puzzles and running!
  • edited June 2010
    puzzlebox wrote: »
    It's not purchasing the channel, it doesn't matter whether you want to watch the BBC or not - it's a fee you pay just for owning a TV.

    There are maybe twenty free channels in America and the rest you have to pay for. So if you want to watch most TV, you have to pay for cable. I used BBC as an example because BBC is one of the many channels that we have to pay for in order to watch it. I guess I was saying that in America we would still have to pay to watch Doctor Who with a cable subscription and then also have to pay again if we want to play the game.
  • edited June 2010
    There are maybe twenty free channels in America and the rest you have to pay for. So if you want to watch most TV, you have to pay for cable. I used BBC as an example because BBC is one of the many channels that we have to pay for in order to watch it. I guess I was saying that in America we would still have to pay to watch Doctor Who with a cable subscription and then also have to pay again if we want to play the game.

    Or, you could, y'know, use a proxy. Like some of us. *whistles*
  • edited June 2010
    Believe me, I'm considering it. I need to figure out if it will even run on my computer first, though.
  • edited June 2010
    Or, you could, y'know, use a proxy. Like some of us. *whistles*

    If only there was some way we in America could get the games...
  • edited June 2010
    Its free in the UK but as you said there will be a pay charge for the US.

    That's the biggest load I've ever heard. There's no particular difference between british internet and us internet, so why can't people not-in-the-uk download it? this is just going to encourage piracy. Even if they made it cost money for US citizens but they could buy it on the same day, there wouldn't be as much piracy as there is going to be now.
  • edited June 2010
    Oh well, at least Mac users, unless they use some BootCamp/Virtualisation/Whine on their Mac should wait some more time, until it's June 15:

    *snip*
    All Downloads

    All available Adventure Games downloads are listed below.
    The download should take around 10-20 minutes. The Mac version will be available from June 15.
    When the download window appears, click Save to save the game installer file to your computer. You can choose where to save the file - the Desktop is a good choice. When the download is complete, go to your Desktop (or wherever you saved the file) and double-click on the Installer to install the game.

    City of the Daleks

    • Download Windows Version (330MB)


    Episode Two

    Coming Soon.
    *snap*
  • edited June 2010
    That's the biggest load I've ever heard. There's no particular difference between british internet and us internet, so why can't people not-in-the-uk download it? this is just going to encourage piracy. Even if they made it cost money for US citizens but they could buy it on the same day, there wouldn't be as much piracy as there is going to be now.

    Well this is what it says if you live outside the UK

    "Outside the UK

    If you live outside the UK, the first Adventure Game will be available to purchase in early July. We will have more information shortly on release dates and where you can buy them, so watch this space!

    If you are in the UK and are seeing this message, you may need to contact your ISP. Please see the Help section below."
  • edited June 2010
    To be fair - US TV stations often don't allow UK viewers to watch clips of their shows online (& definitly not the entire episodes) - I just see a Hulu style 'your in the wrong country' message.

    (Though curiously Hulu and suchlike work without issue in Hong Kong - It's just Europe they hate :) )
  • edited June 2010
    Hmm... might have to see if I can download it *while* I'm in the UK (which won't be until August). Then again, it's more than likely got some online protections so that even if you get the program outside the UK, you won't be able to play it unless you've paid for a license key.
  • edited June 2010
    I do think there's a false sense of entitlement running through discussions I've read here (and on other forums). As Friar has said, we've already paid for this game through the license fee. There's no reason why we should be covering the costs for you.

    Regardless, I've just finished downloading and I'll let you know what I think when I'm done.
  • TorTor
    edited June 2010
    I think it would be perfectly all right if the game was free to license payers and available to others for a fee. I'm not as happy with a 'free to UK IP-addresses' approach on the other hand. The internet is a communications network which is international and open in nature, and I dislike artificial limitations imposted on content like that.

    With the IP-based approach, UK citizens who don't pay the license, foreigners visiting or residing in the UK, and anyone using a proxy server will get the game for free. Likewise, UK license payers temporarily residing abroad will not get access. That hardly seems fair.

    If the intention behind the download restrictions is to make the game free for license payers, then they should implement it that way, not just use a Geo IP filter.
  • edited June 2010
    Hey, you Americans get all the best TV shows, games and movies first. Surely you can give us this one?

    Anyway. My verdict? 6/10.

    It's very short (it took me an hour), far too much emphasis on stealth (seriously), dry voice acting (as I predicted), mini puzzles were very simple (felt like a flash game half the time) and it's way too easy to get killed (I died twice, and I'm an 'expert gamer').

    But hey, what do you expect from a free game?
  • edited June 2010
    Im stuck on that annoying puzzle
    guding the chip through the eletric maze with out touching I hate stuff like that stupid eletrick thinks its sooo bad
  • edited June 2010
    Well I found the controls a bit stiff, the puzzles way too easy and to me the stealth parts seemed pointless, but other then the gameplay the voice acting sometimes didn't really match up. Hopefully the next episode will at least be abit more challenging (and have less to do with stealth seriously whats up with all the stealth I thought I was playing Doctor Who: The Adventure Games not Doctor Who: Deadly Shadows).
  • edited June 2010
    Im stuck on that annoying puzzle
    guding the chip through the eletric maze with out touching I hate stuff like that stupid eletrick thinks its sooo bad
    You do that puzzle three times!

    Anyways, whatever happened to the "You can literally walk into the tardis and see it's bigger on the inside, without load screens"feature that triggered the BBC to choose Sumo as the dev? The TARDIS was locked for almost the entire episode, and it certaintly wasn't explorable.
  • edited June 2010
    Friar wrote: »
    You do that puzzle three times!

    thats it I quit Im gona find out how it ends on youtube or summit

    I really cant do it i been on the first one for hours! this would make a very boring tv episode.
  • edited June 2010
    That's the biggest load I've ever heard. There's no particular difference between british internet and us internet, so why can't people not-in-the-uk download it? this is just going to encourage piracy. Even if they made it cost money for US citizens but they could buy it on the same day, there wouldn't be as much piracy as there is going to be now.

    Because the BBC (including this game presumably) is funded by the TV Licence fee that peeps in the UK pay, so in essence we've already paid for it. Boom!!
  • edited June 2010
    I'm in the UK, but the website just crashes before it even gives me the chance to try and download it.:mad:
  • edited June 2010
    Tor wrote: »
    I think it would be perfectly all right if the game was free to license payers and available to others for a fee. I'm not as happy with a 'free to UK IP-addresses' approach on the other hand. The internet is a communications network which is international and open in nature, and I dislike artificial limitations imposted on content like that.

    With the IP-based approach, UK citizens who don't pay the license, foreigners visiting or residing in the UK, and anyone using a proxy server will get the game for free. Likewise, UK license payers temporarily residing abroad will not get access. That hardly seems fair.

    If the intention behind the download restrictions is to make the game free for license payers, then they should implement it that way, not just use a Geo IP filter.

    It's the easiest solution to something that's new ground for the BBC at this time, asking for TV Licence details would be very hard to check and timely so the service to the public would be a bit poo. Some non licence payers will get it surely, but non licence payers are watching TV right now, end of the day they get caught and end up with a hefty fine. Most people pay their TV licence down the local post office, it's just not equipped for the digital landscape

    TL;DR - TV Licence is hard to track digitally
  • edited June 2010
    Hoho.. Game worked perfectly fine until I got in control. Mouse goes crazy, and makes the camera spin around and around and around.. Anyone know how to fix this?
  • TorTor
    edited June 2010
    JedExodus wrote: »
    It's the easiest solution to something that's new ground for the BBC at this time, asking for TV Licence details would be very hard to check and timely so the service to the public would be a bit poo.
    We use a license-funded system very similar to the BBC, and we have a unique license payer id number printed on every bill that comes in the mail. I'd assume BBC used something similar... and if they do, it should be a simple matter to make a system to verify the id via the web. (The information exists in a database somewhere, so it's "only" a matter of fetching it) That doesn't mean it actually is simple though, if the infrastructure does not exist they'd have to write something from scratch. You're probably right about their reason for using Geo IP filtering, but I think it seems a bit lazy :) (I'm a software engineer, so I tend to find room for improvement in every IT system I see)
  • edited June 2010
    Tor wrote: »
    We use a license-funded system very similar to the BBC, and we have a unique license payer id number printed on every bill that comes in the mail. I'd assume BBC used something similar... and if they do, it should be a simple matter to make a system to verify the id via the web. (The information exists in a database somewhere, so it's "only" a matter of fetching it) That doesn't mean it actually is simple though, if the infrastructure does not exist they'd have to write something from scratch. You're probably right about their reason for using Geo IP filtering, but I think it seems a bit lazy :) (I'm a software engineer, so I tend to find room for improvement in every IT system I see)

    The Doctor Who website is aimed at children, as are these games (you#ll realise this when you play it), so having such a strict security system to download the games would lock most children out from playing it.
    They've done it in a manner that tries to stop the people that shouldn't be getting it for free from getting it while making the whole thing unnoticible for the young audience.
  • TorTor
    edited June 2010
    Video games... for children!? :eek:
    Seriously though, I didn't realise Doctor Who was aimed at people of the young persuasion.

    Heck, I sometimes forget that children even exist.
  • edited June 2010
    Tor wrote: »
    Video games... for children!? :eek:
    Seriously though, I didn't realise Doctor Who was aimed at people of the young persuasion.

    Heck, I sometimes forget that children even exist.

    Although Dr Who is enjoyed by many adults all over the world, the creators of the new series have been very careful to make sure that it's primarily a show for minors, what with the action figure and clothing merchandise etc.
  • edited June 2010
    I just cannot do thoes maze things with out touching the sides so Il either get someone to do it 4 me or just watch the ending online XD
  • edited June 2010
    I just cannot do thoes maze things with out touching the sides so Il either get someone to do it 4 me or just watch the ending online XD
    Don't worry - you're not missing much.

    Find it odd that you can't do that puzzle though. There's no time limit, so you can go as slowly as you like, and you can drop and pick up the item as many times as you like, so I shouldn't have imagined it would be all that hard to do.

    The trickiest puzzle, for me, was the one where you have to match symbols, but that's mostly because I can't tell one symbol for another. Oh well!
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