If you've got problems with

edited July 2010 in General Chat
Just post them on this thread from now on so that maybe... just maybe we can finally have an intelligent conversation on here for once. Hell, you can say whatever you want about me & I won't report you or even say a cross word back to you? Why? Because I'm sick and tired of all of this nonsensical fighting that I get dragged into on seemingly every thread I'm on. I signed up for this account simply to talk about things of interest to me with people who shared those same interests... but what have I got? An endless (& idiotic) war that is really going against my typical good nature & making me noticeably angry for about an hour after logging off. I mean I have been called everything from a troll to an unfit father (the latter being a major part of what makes me so quick to snap) on this forum, so why do I keep coming back? Well believe it or not there are actually some people on here that I consider decent human beings & enjoy talking to... but the rest are making this place a living hell for me... I mean sometimes I wonder if I can do anything to please you people.
So with so much hate towards me in this forum, I expect that this thread might become the most successful one yet... that is if the mods don't close it (& I am begging you not to close it.... it is truly the only way that there is ever going to be peace around here).

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  • edited July 2010
    So, a venting thread? Sound good with the potential to go very wrong. But if we can limit aggressivity to this thread...

    Well, we'll see how that goes.
  • edited July 2010
    Avistew wrote: »
    So, a venting thread? Sound good with the potential to go very wrong. But if we can limit aggressivity to this thread...

    Well, we'll see how that goes.

    Yeah, the internet can be very dangerous when this sort of thing "happens".
  • edited July 2010
    Since the subject line is cut off... This thread is about talking about problems we have with you, right?
    I'd like to suggest for people to send you PMs instead. One on one conversations tend to be more productive than "all against one", if you will.
  • [TTG] Yare[TTG] Yare Telltale Alumni
    edited July 2010
    You need to care less about opinions held by people on the Internet.
  • edited July 2010
    [TTG] Yare wrote: »
    You need to care less about opinions held by people on the Internet.
    But, didn't you hear? Internet is serious buisness.
  • edited July 2010
    I'm pretty sure this thread is mostly directed at me, but I'm still not sure why you think I have some kind of insane vendetta against you. I disagree with you frequently, and then you take it as though I'm personally attacking you by disagreeing.
  • edited July 2010
    What would your mothers think?
  • edited July 2010
    [TTG] Yare wrote: »
    You need to care less about opinions held by people on the Internet.

    That's a BS argument. They're still PEOPLE. Whether they're on the internet or not. I think it's more like "you should care less about the opinions of a-holes and only pay attention to the opinions of good intelligent people".
  • edited July 2010
    We wouldn't need this thread (not that I think we need it) if you didn't consider opinions that differ from your own "attacks". You fly off the handle the instant someone disagrees with anything you've said. If you actually do like it here, here's my advice.

    1. When someone disagrees with your opinions (especially in a thread that's entirely about opinions), try discussing why you have that opinion, rather than taking it as an attack and shouting "it's an opinion!" Just as you weren't stating your opinions as fact, neither were they.

    2. Don't make threads like this one. It makes you look even more like you're looking for a fight than you already do.
  • edited July 2010
    That's a BS argument. They're still PEOPLE. Whether they're on the internet or not. I think it's more like "you should care less about the opinions of a-holes and only pay attention to the opinions of good intelligent people".

    lol
  • edited July 2010
    Eh? What's funny? :confused:
  • edited July 2010
    People need to remember a few things.

    1. Everyone is a little bit ruder on the internet than they are in real life. It's called the online disinhibition effect. You have to remember that people aren't rude because they're malicious or they want to cause you pain, they're just rude because they can't see the immediate consequences. For this reason, you're better off ignoring anything rude you come across on the internet and writing it off as a result of the online disinhibition effect.

    2. If you do find yourself in an argument, drop out of it as soon as possible. You have to remember that people are generally the same as you, and if you're like the average person, you won't give up easily. The more perceptive among you will have deduced that I'm saying no one will give up easily. It's similar in real life - if two people are arguing, neither of them will give up unless they have a certain amount of humility. This means that no matter who wins (if anyone), both sides will come off feeling bitter and upset. In order to combat this, always have humility, and always try to be the one who concedes and lets the other person win. This can be achieved by either saying "you're right" or by simply not posting in the respective thread any more. The catch with saying "you're right" is that you'll feel humiliated while you're doing it (that's why it's called "humility" D: ), but you have to remember that you'll feel better afterwards. The bitter, angry feeling you usually get won't be there.

    3. The internet has a great advantage over spoken word - it isn't as immediate. Not enough people use this to their advantage. Take some time to cool down before replying or don't reply at all. Cooling down will stop you from exacerbating the argument. We've all said things we don't mean or regret later in the heat of an argument - this doesn't have to happen on the internet. Nobody will be annoyed at you if you don't reply, and they won't take that as meaning that they've won (because they'll generally forget about it). If they don't forget, then it won't matter because you'll no longer care.

    I hope this gone some way in helping people a bit :)
  • edited July 2010
    And with that, Fealiks has ensured that she will neaver loose an argument with anyone in this thread!

    To add to your point, i prefer to just agree to disagree.
  • edited July 2010
    GaryCXJk wrote:
    In all honesty though the bane of all that is video game Internet is people actually giving a shit of what others think.
    A direct quote from me on the GameTrailers forums.
  • edited July 2010
    I must admit, that some times people just totally sack your threads. Like, for instance:
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    EDIT: Seriously though, I don't see much of a point in this thread other than to troll and/or be pretentious for the sake of being pretentious. I would like to hear why you think Street Fighter is overrated and King of Fighters is underrated, though. I like both series, although in terms of latest inputs, SSFIV is definitely faaar better than KoF12.

    EDIT2: And I wouldn't really consider the Tales games Action RPGs either, at least not to the same extent that Kingdom Hearts is.

    That came from your Overrated/Underrated thread, and the point of that wasn't to troll, it was just mainly to introduce people to other games, or maybe, MAYBE change their opinions. Except, however, when someone disagrees with your opinion, you start to judge theirs. Thus, people start to argue.
  • edited July 2010
    blah blah. Hey, what's that?...just maybe we can finally have an intelligent conversation on here for once.boring talk

    Ohh... Sounds like a challenge.

    (And yes, I did ignore everyone else's posts.)
  • edited July 2010
    Really... I have found in the past if you do not like people fighting with you its best not to start fights with them, and or insult them, openly or in a veiled manner.
  • edited July 2010
    BoneFreak wrote: »
    That came from your Overrated/Underrated thread, and the point of that wasn't to troll, it was just mainly to introduce people to other games, or maybe, MAYBE change their opinions. Except, however, when someone disagrees with your opinion, you start to judge theirs. Thus, people start to argue.

    This.

    There's a kid I have friended on Facebook. Oh boy, he's quite the kid. He has stalked girls and chased them down in quite creepy ways to ask them out. And when no girl understandably wants to date him, he put the blame on the young women; Posting unbelievably misogynistic comments about how girls will never understand him for various ideas that aren't grounded in any known science and how they're horrible people.

    Then after that, he continues to go try to stalk down a girlfriend.

    You notice what's wrong with this? I mean, granted, this is nowhere as bad, but still.

    I don't want to be that is biased to one side or nuthin' (which I'll unfortunately will be, as life seems to dictate), but from what I can tell, if all/many threads you seem to be posting in irremediably lock, then there's likely an issue with your posting style. I'm not sure why you haven't noticed this, and many folks don't notice faults to their character right off the bat, but you do come off as super aggressive and unaccepting of opinions. Thus it seems like you had made an attack/argument towards the disagreeing individual.

    And when you make yourself look like you attack someone or can't accept anybody's opinion but your own over a subject most may find insignificant, childish, or just plain silly, it opens you up individuals who may scoff at you for it. I will admit that I have indulged myself a bit to this sweet nectar, but only because I believed that you were, to a certain extent, trolling as well.

    So it seems like this was all just a crazy misunderstanding that occurred over the internet. I shouldn't, and am not, surprised.

    The best thing to do from here on out is to realize what parts of us may need improvements, and work on them. I know certain individuals around here, whom for privacy sake I won't name out loud (and nor will any you folks try to guess), who have worked hard to socialize better with the folks on the forum after a rather rocky start.

    We can do it together.
    For science.
  • edited July 2010
    Friar wrote: »
    And with that, Fealiks has ensured that she will neaver loose an argument with anyone in this thread!

    To add to your point, i prefer to just agree to disagree.

    I'm all man. Don't be fooled by my high heels, pink dress and womanly lips :p
    Giant Tope wrote: »
    This.

    There's a kid I have friended on Facebook. Oh boy, he's quite the kid. He has stalked girls and chased them down in quite creepy ways to ask them out. And when no girl understandably wants to date him, he put the blame on the young women; Posting unbelievably misogynist comments about how girls will never understand him for various ideas that aren't grounded in any known science and how they're horrible people.

    Then after that, he continues to go try to stalk down a girlfriend.

    You notice what's wrong with this? I mean, granted, this is nowhere as bad, but still.

    I don't want to be that is biased to one side or nuthin' (which I'll unfortunately will be, as life seems to dictate), but from what I can tell, if all/many threads you seem to be posting in irremediably lock, then there's likely an issue with your posting style. I'm not sure why you haven't noticed this, and many folks don't notice faults to their character right off the bat, but you do come off as super aggressive and unaccepting of opinions. Thus it seems like you had made an attack/argument towards the disagreeing individual.

    And when you make yourself look like you attack someone or can't accept anybody's opinion but your own over a subject most may find insignificant, childish, or just plain silly, it opens you up individuals who may scoff at you for it. I will admit that I have indulged myself a bit to this sweet nectar, but only because I believed that you were, to a certain extent, trolling as well.

    So it seems like this was all just a crazy misunderstanding that occurred over the internet. I shouldn't, and am not, surprised.

    The best thing to do from here on out is to realize what parts of us may need improvements, and work on them. I know certain individuals around here, whom for privacy sake I won't name out loud (and nor will any you folks try to guess), who have worked hard to socialize better with the folks on the forum after a rather rocky start.

    We can do it together.
    For science.

    I understand the parallel you're trying to draw, but you can't expect to compare someone to a stalker and not offend them. Maybe roberttitus is quick to anger, but that isn't his fault so don't talk provocatively to him.

    (Just to be clear: I'm not accusing you of being purposefully antagonistic and I'm not accusing him of being purposefully angry. Everyone's completely innocent here, but just because your respective faults aren't intentional doesn't mean you shouldn't try to remedy them)
  • edited July 2010
    Fealiks wrote: »
    Take some time to cool down before replying or don't reply at all. Cooling down will stop you from exacerbating the argument. We've all said things we don't mean or regret later in the heat of an argument - this doesn't have to happen on the internet.

    I usually type out like 5 paragraphs when I respond, and then go back through it and cut out things that might be considered too abrasive or reactionary. If a topic bothers me and I feel a need to respond to something, I usually just write stream of consciousness posts that I then edit into something somewhat comprehensible after I'm done.

    I find it's easier to make somewhat rational posts after I vent in my own private little post window. ;)
  • edited July 2010
    I usually type out like 5 paragraphs when I respond, and then go back through it and cut out things that might be considered too abrasive or reactionary. If a topic bothers me and I feel a need to respond to something, I usually just write stream of consciousness posts that I then edit into something somewhat comprehensible after I'm done.

    I find it's easier to make somewhat rational posts after I vent in my own private little post window. ;)

    I do the same thing. Once I wrote an extremely long and well thought out post vehemently disagreeing with a topic and left it for a bit because I had to do something else. When I read what I had written along with what I was responding to, I realized I had completely misunderstood what the other person had been saying, and in fact didn't disagree with them at all, so I deleted the whole thing.

    I also have done this with shorter posts.
  • edited July 2010
    Fealiks wrote: »
    I'm all man. Don't be fooled by my high heels, pink dress and womanly lips :p

    Fun fact: Fealiks once asked me to make out, and I said "sure!" thinking he was a woman. Fun times.

    Fealiks wrote: »
    I understand the parallel you're trying to draw, but you can't expect to compare someone to a stalker and not offend them.

    Hey!
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