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Looking for a couple old games(11th Hour, 7th Guest)

MoToX20MoToX20
edited July 2010 in General Chat
Is there anywhere to play either of these games online or CD/DVD versions compatible with Window Vista or Windows 7? As I was buying Sam and Max and looking at Tales of Monkey Island it really took me back and I remembered these being some of my earliest games, and what really gets me is that I could never finish them because of computer issues back then. Any help would be awesome and thank you.

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  • AvelAvel
    edited July 2010
    Are you looking for the physical game or just a way to play them?
  • roberttitusroberttitus
    edited July 2010
    From personal experience....

    If amazon doesn't have it, then it doesn't exist
  • Rather DashingRather Dashing
    edited July 2010
    roberttitus wrote: »
    From personal experience....

    If amazon doesn't have it, then it doesn't exist
    Maybe your personal experience is wrong?
  • KuroShiroKuroShiro
    edited July 2010
    roberttitus wrote: »
    From personal experience....

    If amazon doesn't have it, then it doesn't exist

    Er... no.

    EBay has quite a few listings for both. It's probably your best bet, and is your best bet in general when looking for old games.
  • ShaggEShaggE
    edited July 2010
    As far as I know, you'll probably want a legacy machine to run them on. I tried playing both again on a modern PC, and no matter how much tweaking, patching, and DosBoxing I did, only 11th Hour would run without crashing (although just barely).

    Of course, YMMV. Old games are finicky as hell. I've had the same game refuse to run on one machine, but run beautifully on a 100% identical one.
  • KuroShiroKuroShiro
    edited July 2010
    ShaggE wrote: »
    As far as I know, you'll probably want a legacy machine to run them on. I tried playing both again on a modern PC, and no matter how much tweaking, patching, and DosBoxing I did, only 11th Hour would run without crashing (although just barely).

    Of course, YMMV. Old games are finicky as hell. I've had the same game refuse to run on one machine, but run beautifully on a 100% identical one.

    The 7th Guest runs in ScummVM.
  • Armand1880Armand1880
    edited July 2010
    The 11th Hour is a pain to run on a modern PC. I had the original version which was DOS, and I bought a version that specifically said, WINDOWS 95/98 on it, but it was no different. I had to get a program that slows my CPU output or else it was running too fast.
    The 7th Guest had a Windows 95/98 version that was put out in a jewel case a few years back, and I picked that up. I haven't tested it out on Windows 7, but it was great on XP. I hope it'll run - I'll keep ScummVM in the back of my mind for it.

    I try to play the 7th Guest every few years...it was one of the first games my dad ever bought when we got a PC (After Monkey Island and Loom CDs), and I remember playing it with my dad a lot when I was 7 or 8. Even to this day it still gives me the shivers - the atmosphere is great. The 11th Hour...ehhh, not so much. Still good though.
  • roberttitusroberttitus
    edited July 2010
    Rather Dashing wrote: »
    Maybe your personal experience is wrong?

    Actually... I don't think it is. Those are on Amazon, they just aren't the version he/she wants.
  • MoToX20MoToX20
    edited July 2010
    Thanks for all the info, I'll look into getting ScummVM too. I don't have much experience trying to get old games to run on new machines but I do have a fair bit of computer knowledge in general so hopefully I'll work some magic. I have a semi-older laptop that I use for stuff like that and I'll be using that to try and play these.

    I did find Windows 95/98 versions on Amazon, some are upwards of $80, but also a few for much cheaper. Even being 95/98 versions I should still expect some issues right, on an XP laptop(like the issue Armand1880 had)? Again thanks for all the input, I really appreciate the helpfulness on these boards.

    Armand1880, what was the program you used to slow CPU output?
  • MoToX20MoToX20
    edited July 2010
    Avel wrote: »
    Are you looking for the physical game or just a way to play them?

    Want to respond to this also, just to say that if there is a way to play online without disks I would be interested.
  • KuroShiroKuroShiro
    edited July 2010
    MoToX20 wrote: »
    Want to respond to this also, just to say that if there is a way to play online without disks I would be interested.

    I don't believe either of the games you're looking for are available anywhere for (legal) download. The company that made them is pretty much out of the gaming business now, so who knows if that will ever change.

    And if you use either DosBox or ScummVM you don't really need to worry about CPU throttling as it is done automatically.
  • Armand1880Armand1880
    edited July 2010
    MoToX20 wrote: »
    Armand1880, what was the program you used to slow CPU output?

    http://www.cpukiller.com/
    Very easy to use, made the game playable.
    The Windows 98 version of 7th Guest actually had a launcher and install shield, while the 11th Hour version that said Win 98 was actually just the dos based game - I was very disappointed. But if ScummVM gets going with 11th Hour comparability...it'll make my day!
  • bafbaf Telltale Alumni
    edited July 2010
    I personally pulled out T7G a few years back and tried to play it on a Windows XP system. Couldn't get it to work at all until I went online and found the official patch (which is really more like a replacement interpreter). Worked perfectly once I had that.

    It looks like you can still get the patches for both T7G and T11H at http://www.tbyte.com/downloads/ but I can't vouch for the safety of the files there; the domain seems to be owned by a different company now. ScummVM is probably the better option.

    Note also that the original version of T7G could be configured to play in a "ghost-vision" mode or something like that. The effect was that noninteractive scenery was tinted blue, making the puzzle items pop out more. Anyway, the Windows patch doesn't support this mode. Presumably playing the original DOS version under DOSBox does.
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