Do you guys got bandwidth limit imposed by your internet provider company?

edited July 2010 in General Chat
I've never talked about this on the internet but my bro and me don't have cable tv or satellite tv, and so we started seeing tv on internet sites such as hulu.tv, justin.tv and such. Although i really wish to see it on a normal tv set, i admit having no commercial is awesome. But now i can't after Onelink (my internet provider) contacted us we where downloading and exceeding the limit by ALOT. They charge $10 more for every 10 gigas u exceed. Whats the limit? 40GB. We used to spend 100GB to 500 gb watching streams and entire series on hulu.tv and Tonight Shows. But now we cant.

I was wondering if you guys got this same problem, as its a pain the ass and it takes out the fun in the internet. Problem is where i live 1 company provides the service per area. Meaning the zone is monopolized by Onelink' who has the fastest internet speed of 3mb.
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  • edited July 2010
    I don't think this has hit North America yet -- I believe the limitations on your bandwidth is only going on in Europe/Australia. I may be wrong though.

    Personally, I know AT&T doesn't limit my bandwidth whatsoever.
  • edited July 2010
    I live in Michigan, USA and use Comcast cable internet. They have a 250GB monthly cap. If you use more they make you pay a fee, and if you do it twice in a month they suspend your service. Sucks, but at the same time I've never hit it - with downloading Steam games, torrents, and Netflix.
  • edited July 2010
    Armand1880 wrote: »
    I live in Michigan, USA and use Comcast cable internet. They have a 250GB monthly cap. If you use more they make you pay a fee, and if you do it twice in a month they suspend your service. Sucks, but at the same time I've never hit it - with downloading Steam games, torrents, and Netflix.

    So it is in North America then? Wow, that sucks. I know you haven't hit it yet, but I think I'd switch providers if AT&T started in on that ridiculousness.
  • edited July 2010
    So there's still lots of crappy internet providers in the US, but Hulu et al as content providers don't allow access by us Europeans with proper internet connections - like the 40Mbps down/4Mbps up without a cap here?

    Somethings not right here...
  • edited July 2010
    Psuni wrote: »
    I don't think this has hit North America yet -- I believe the limitations on your bandwidth is only going on in Europe/Australia. I may be wrong though.

    Personally, I know AT&T doesn't limit my bandwidth whatsoever.
    We don't get hulu over here.

    It's a provider specific thing. Here in the UK, there are providers with limits (usually going from 2GB-20GB), providers with unlimited (with a "fair usage policy" which is supposedly really high. We've got that, and i regularly stream HD content, and play games online), and providers with true unlimited broadband.

    I would say, given 3MB is your highest speed in the area, you live in a rural area, with old cables, which can't sustain high volumes of data traffic, so the limit is there to allow other to use it, without being painfully slow.
  • edited July 2010
    Psuni wrote: »
    Personally, I know AT&T doesn't limit my bandwidth whatsoever.

    I also have AT&T DSL. I only play $25 per month for it, and I don't have a GB-per-month download cap either.

    I forget what my bandwidth limit is, but dslreports.com says it can clock my bandwidth to a server in Toronto at ~2.5Mbps download/~500kbps upload.

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    That being said, when I download files from the net, it usually shows up as downloading at 300-400kbps.

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    My parents went on a trip to Europe recently and my Dad says that, while he was over there, not only did he have a download limit but he also got bandwidth speeds that could only rival dialup. He might have only been using his iPhone, I'm not sure. Even if he was, getting only 50kbps download speeds on a iPhone is pitiful. You can't even watch Youtube videos at that speed.
  • edited July 2010
    We have a 40GB download limit at the moment, the highest limit we've ever had. I was fine with download limits until I found out that Americans usually don't have them. Then I was jealous.

    It's why I often use YouTube to watch TV. I'm sure there are more legal options, but YouTube's filesizes seem smaller.
    Everlast wrote: »
    They charge $10 more for every 10 gigas u exceed.
    Just ten dollars for a whole ten gigabytes? Wow, that sounds really reasonable to me.
  • edited July 2010
    I live in Connecticut and use Comcast cable internet via ethernet. I used to have Linksys Wireless-G Adapter, which was going fine on my old and new computers, until my new computer started getting a Blue Screen of Death upon start-up on June 5. Weeks later, we found out that the Linksys Wireless-G Adapter was the cause of the BSoD, and we tried switching to Technet Wireless-G Adapter, but that didn't work, even though it was connected. We ended up having to switch my computer to wired ethernet, so now it's connected and doing fine. :)
  • edited July 2010
    Chyron8472 wrote: »
    I also have AT&T DSL. I only play $25 per month for it, and I don't have a GB-per-month download cap either.

    I forget what my bandwidth limit is, but dslreports.com says it can clock my bandwidth to a server in Toronto at ~2.5Mbps download/~500kbps upload.

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    That being said, when I download files from the net, it usually shows up as downloading at 300-400kbps.

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    My parents went on a trip to Europe recently and my Dad says that, while he was over there, not only did he have a download limit but he also got bandwidth speeds that could only rival dialup. He might have only been using his iPhone, I'm not sure. Even if he was, getting only 50kbps download speeds on a iPhone is pitiful. You can't even watch Youtube videos at that speed.

    My speed is usually around 8-10 mbps. In fact
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    When i did it earlier, around 7ish, it was 9mbps.
  • edited July 2010
    Psuni wrote: »
    I don't think this has hit North America yet -- I believe the limitations on your bandwidth is only going on in Europe/Australia. I may be wrong though.

    Personally, I know AT&T doesn't limit my bandwidth whatsoever.

    Psuni i dont live in Europe, i live in Puerto Rico which is a US territory with US federal law and our own state law. So legally (not geographically) we are under North America. The problem is in my home we are 4 people and i dont think that cap limit is enough for all of us.

    Now 250gb sounds about right! I feel stupid to have to stick to a company which offers you an internet service but barely allows you to download and watch streams.
    Psuni wrote: »
    So it is in North America then? Wow, that sucks. I know you haven't hit it yet, but I think I'd switch providers if AT&T started in on that ridiculousness.

    Im not european, i live in the americas and we can get access to hulu and all those sorts of streams. Though i think its unfair to now allow europeans to watch Hulu.
    Shwoo wrote: »
    We have a 40GB download limit at the moment, the highest limit we've ever had. I was fine with download limits until I found out that Americans usually don't have them. Then I was jealous.

    It's why I often use YouTube to watch TV. I'm sure there are more legal options, but YouTube's filesizes seem smaller.


    Just ten dollars for a whole ten gigabytes? Wow, that sounds really reasonable to me.

    Sorry just went to my bro and he told me its $17 bucks per 10gb in excess. I still think its expensive!
  • edited July 2010
    Chyron8472 wrote: »
    My parents went on a trip to Europe recently and my Dad says that, while he was over there, not only did he have a download limit but he also got bandwidth speeds that could only rival dialup. He might have only been using his iPhone, I'm not sure. Even if he was, getting only 50kbps download speeds on a iPhone is pitiful. You can't even watch Youtube videos at that speed.
    Internet speeds in Europe really vary from country to country, and between providers, as do fair-use policies and bandwidth limits, so I don't think a generalization makes a lot of sense.

    I happen to be hooked up to the university network for now, which is great because it's a 100 MBit link with a 50GB/week external upload limit and no download limit. (But note that with speeds like that, the weekly upload limit could be exhausted in only three hours if you wanted. :/)

    In the Netherlands you can generally get unlimited access at around 20 MBit/s but expect to pay in the range of €40 to €50 per month for it. There are broadband alternatives which are a lot cheaper (€15 to €25 per month) but then you might have a lower speed cap and a transfer limit. You get what you pay for.
  • puzzleboxpuzzlebox Telltale Alumni
    edited July 2010
    I live in London, and our broadband has no caps or limits. No idea what it costs though since it's included in my rent. Speedtest results:

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    My folks, however, live in rural Australia. Landline broadband is not an option so they're limited to mobile access using a USB modem.

    Coverage is patchy to say the least. They can pick up one provider only in the living room (but nowhere else in the house) and another provider only in the bedrooms. So they are signed up to both ISPs and have a USB modem for each one, switching depending on the part of the house they're in.

    I've also seen them run the modem out the window on a long cable and stick it on a chair in the backyard to get better reception... and put it in a little plastic lunchbag if it starts to rain. :p

    Don't know what the speeds are like, but my little bro plays online games over that connection so I guess it can't be too bad.

    When the family lived in town, they used a broadband plan where you were "shaped" if you exceeded the download limit - the ISP just limited your download speed until the month rolled over. Downloads during off-peak periods (some time in the late evening til 6am) weren't counted towards the quota. If a contract must involve a cap, I think this is my preferred option. It seems less painful than being cut off entirely, or charged an additional fee.
  • MRNMRN
    edited July 2010
    I have ilimited interwebz and thank god for that xD

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  • edited July 2010
    Chyron8472 wrote: »
    Even if he was, getting only 50kbps download speeds on a iPhone is pitiful. You can't even watch Youtube videos at that speed.

    Oh but you can, maybe you gotta pause a bit and put the quality down, but it's do-able. My internet's highest speed was 60kbps untill quite recently. I'd cry if I had to go back to it though
  • edited July 2010
    When I was in France, free.fr offered unlimited telephone (with mostly free worldwide calling), TV, and internet for 30 euros a month. As far as I have seen, it is the best system in the world.

    Japan is about twice that expensive, but offers similar service (except the cheap telephone. Telephone service there is the worst of any industrialized nation, by far) along with fairly cheap fiber optic, all uncapped.
  • edited July 2010
    KuroShiro wrote: »
    When I was in France, free.fr offered unlimited telephone (with mostly free worldwide calling), TV, and internet for 30 euros a month. As far as I have seen, it is the best system in the world.

    I had the same service for the same price with SFR. Free phone to most countries (never found one I wanted to call that wasn't free), unlimited internet and cable TV (that I didn't even used but hey, it was part of the deal so whatever), and a cellphone thrown in without a plan (so, unlimited calls/texts to that phone but needed to pay to call/text from it) that I never used either because I just don't use cellphones anymore.

    Now we pay almost 80 CAD for telephone (only 2 hours per month nation-wise, no international plan, free calls in town) plus Internet (limited bandwidth, we go over it pretty much every month, and that was before I started using skype so I'm scared for my next bill), and no TV.
    And that's the only provider here. It sucks.

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  • edited July 2010
    Well here it is, oficially its 3mb thats how their promo goes.

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  • edited July 2010
    I've got this:

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  • TorTor
    edited July 2010
    Over here I haven't seen download caps for years. The biggest ISP tried that when DSL was just launching (1 GB / month even) but as I recall, all their competitors offered unlimited service. Naturally that restriction went away fairly quickly.

    Given how people use the internet these days, (digital distribution, media streaming etc) capping upload or download seems ridiculous to me. If you don't have enough bandwidth to offer your customers unlimited service, it means you should spend some of those profits on upgrading your backbone network and other equipment.
    Chyron8472 wrote: »
    I forget what my bandwidth limit is, but dslreports.com says it can clock my bandwidth to a server in Toronto at ~2.5Mbps download/~500kbps upload.
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    That being said, when I download files from the net, it usually shows up as downloading at 300-400kbps.
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    That's because they are specified in different units! Watch that B; lower case b means bit, capital B means byte (8 bits). 2.5 Mbps = 320 kBps. (Use Google calculator for quick conversion)
  • edited July 2010
    Tor wrote: »
    Given how people use the internet these days, (digital distribution, media streaming etc) capping upload or download seems ridiculous to me. If you don't have enough bandwidth to offer your customers unlimited service, it means you should spend some of those profits on upgrading your backbone network and other equipment.
    Now where is the business sense in that, squandering profits on upgrades while 90% of your clientele won't even notice the difference, and half of the remaining 10% can be convinced to upgrade to a higher service level contract at an even higher price? The last 5%: good riddance! Let some other providers worry about users that actually use their broadband connection to the fullest.
  • TorTor
    edited July 2010
    Yeah, my bad. Why would anyone in their right mind want to take pride in their work and offer a good service, when there's money to be made?
  • edited July 2010
    I hope I'm not blowing anybody's mind with this:

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    I could have used my own provider to test, and the upload would have clocked in a bit higher, but I thought I'd try something a bit further off...

    np: ISAN - 64 Fire Damage (Glow In The Dark Safari Set)
  • edited July 2010
    I live in the Northern Europe and I have never heard about download cap before, although I wouldn't mind it, because I don't really use that much Internet. Direct downloads now and then, occasionally few hours of Internet-TV and Spotify (free music streaming service) are only uses I currently have for broadband. Otherwise I could live with a dial-up (but they don't even sell those anymore).

    On the contrary they try to get me use more bandwith, because service providers keep calling me and offering me 100mbit/s broadband. I don't need it to anything, but who knows what happens when the price goes down a bit.
  • edited July 2010
    I believe my limit is 20gb a month through BT in the UK. I struggled at first when I was into downloading lossless audio live bootlegs but now the only time I get near it is if I buy a game through Steam.
  • edited July 2010
    I don't remember having a cap since the days of dial up when they'd only let you use a certain number of hours per month. Nearly ten years ago now.

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  • edited July 2010
    I think my monthly limit is 200gb. However, the first time I will exceed it comcast will give a warning, then the second time you exceed then they shut down your account for about a year! That sucks!
  • edited July 2010
    MaxFan wrote: »
    I don't remember having a cap since the days of dial up when they'd only let you use a certain number of hours per month. Nearly ten years ago now.

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    Time Warner as an ISP/cable company is probably the single best reason *not* to live in southern California.
  • edited July 2010
    The service provider I use does allow unlimited download subject to their allowable use policy (fair use) and they do employ a traffic management system between the hours of 10am and 9pm with a couple of different limits. For between 10am and 3pm the download limit for the package I currently subscribe to is 3GB and between 4pm & 9pm the limit is 1.5GB. If the limit is reached then my download speed is throttled by 75% for 5 hours. I'm about to upgrade my package at which time the limits will increase to 7GB and 3.5GB respectively. So there are limits but fair ones I feel. Besides, I do most of my big downloads overnight so there's no worrying about hitting my limits.

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  • edited July 2010
    Everytime i read this thread i feel miserable and worst with every post of people telling about how fast their internet connection is and either big CAP limits or unlimited download.

    :( I wish there was an alternative service provider.
  • edited July 2010
    Unfortunately, where I live doesn't get cable internet or DSL, so my family has to resort to an air card hooked up to a wireless router. There's a 5GB upload/download limit per month. For the six people living in my house. It's BAD.
  • edited July 2010
    Everlast wrote: »
    Everytime i read this thread i feel miserable and worst with every post of people telling about how fast their internet connection is and either big CAP limits or unlimited download.

    :( I wish there was an alternative service provider.

    Monopoly is a bad thing because it allows dictating terms to the customers.

    Around here they couldn't really dictate such terms, because competitors would give better terms. Only limitation is that some smaller service providers priorize traffic in their mobile Internet connections (i. e. peer-to-peer gets less bandwith than other traffic), but most don't do that, because there are plenty of legal peer-to-peer applications and all major competitors allow free use without limitations.
  • edited July 2010
    Here's mine:
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    This is the fastest it's ever been in my experience. I suppose if I'd used American Internet I'd feel like I was missing out, but I don't really.

    It would be cool if it was really fast, though. I'd be able to load entire YouTube videos in seconds. It'd be awesome!
  • edited July 2010
    We're on a 25gb a month plan... they've got 50gb and 100gb plans, but at the moment we can't decide if we want to fork out more money... but last month we used 20 gb in the first half on the month, so I think we need to. We get shaped if we go over, and it's so slow it's pretty impossible to do anything.
  • edited July 2010
    listen, limits for i-access via phones exist, most very tight, can't afford typing more, bye
  • edited July 2010
    Monopoly is a bad thing because it allows dictating terms to the customers.

    Around here they couldn't really dictate such terms, because competitors would give better terms. Only limitation is that some smaller service providers priorize traffic in their mobile Internet connections (i. e. peer-to-peer gets less bandwith than other traffic), but most don't do that, because there are plenty of legal peer-to-peer applications and all major competitors allow free use without limitations.

    I live in US territory. And there is competition, but its just than in our area Onelink is the only one who offers fast internet in our area. If we want to loom for their competitor he will say "We dont do service in that area" I believe this companies has picked apart puerto rico between them in order to not compete with other companies in each area. And that is immoral.
  • edited July 2010
    I hope you guys are all thankful for what you got after seeing this

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    Good Lord. I never realized just how slow the internet was too. Urgle.
  • edited July 2010
    i got 2MBsp download. i can pay an extra 6 dollars/monnth and get 15MBps but it has a 30 or 50gb llimitation dont remember , and then it becomes 1MBps
  • puzzleboxpuzzlebox Telltale Alumni
    edited July 2010
    I was talking to a South African guy today. He told me that in his country, sending data by carrier pigeon can sometimes be far more efficient than sending it via broadband.

    True story.
  • TorTor
    edited July 2010
    The same principle holds true for countries with better developed infrastructure as well; "Never underestimate the bandwidth of a truck full of tapes hard drives hurling down the highway" (Andrew S. Tanenbaum)
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