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How was the original future supposed to go?

ABlackEyedPeaABlackEyedPea
edited July 2010 in Sam & Max
Suppose the reality in the beginning of 301 had really occurred. They would have never heard of Papierwaite lest by the Molemen actually showing them the old film reels, Max's brain would never have been stolen and
Charlie Ho-Tep would be a power (and enemy)
new to 304. The events to be seen in 305 could still have happened
(but most likely with Junior in Max's place)
, but I'm wondering how you guys think the whole season would have played out if the beginning of 301 really occurred.

Comments

  • kanekane
    edited July 2010
    they crash in to the mole-man
  • ABlackEyedPeaABlackEyedPea
    edited July 2010
    Which moleman? Why? How?
  • Harald BHarald B
    edited July 2010
    Max's brain wouldn't be stolen, but Papierwaite would still visit that basement and take the Toybox. At the orders of Yog-Soggoth he would probably destroy it and any toys inside, thereby preventing Charlie from summoning Junior later.
    Then Charlie would still send in his clone army, but with less success. He might still end up in Max's paws, for a similar finale except no big ritual and no Junior.
  • ABlackEyedPeaABlackEyedPea
    edited July 2010
    But since Papierwaite would have destroyed the Toybox, I'm not so sure Sam & Max would be able to completely stop the ritual to summon Junior.

    Perhaps Yog-Soggoth/Norrington/Papierwaite would entrust the Toybox to Sam & Max, and destroy it upon them destroying Junior? Max would then let his temptation over the T-o-Ps rule him and take them all, and in the end Sam would have to stop Max from destroying the world?
  • Rather DashingRather Dashing
    edited July 2010
    Of course it has! It means your future hasn't been written yet! No one's has! Your future is whatever you make it, so make it a good one!
  • xbskidxbskid
    edited July 2010
    ABlackEyedPea wrote: »
    But since Papierwaite would have destroyed the Toybox, I'm not so sure Sam & Max would be able to completely stop the ritual to summon Junior.
    If the toybox had been destroyed, then Charlie Ho-Tep would've been destroyed as well, and thus the ritual would never have taken place.
  • ABlackEyedPeaABlackEyedPea
    edited July 2010
    True, but there's still the possibility they were too late in destroying the Toybox, leaving Junior to have nothing to play with but the fate of the universe.
  • Flyingman356Flyingman356
    edited July 2010
    xbskid wrote: »
    If the toybox had been destroyed, then Charlie Ho-Tep would've been destroyed as well, and thus the ritual would never have taken place.
    Charlie wasn't in the toybox. The only toys that were in there were the ones that managed to avoid being scattered.
  • kanekane
    edited July 2010
    ritual needs a full toybox and most are on planets far a way
  • xbskidxbskid
    edited July 2010
    Flyingman356 wrote: »
    Charlie wasn't in the toybox. The only toys that were in there were the ones that managed to avoid being scattered.

    How is that relevant?
    Charlie was destroyed when he destroyed the toybox, so he apparently didn't have to be in the toybox to be destroyed (Close proximity at the most). During the Yog-Soggoth summoning ritual in 302, Charlie was present and would have been destroyed (Assuming Papierwaite was truthful in his supposed desire to destroy the toybox and all the toys).
  • kanekane
    edited July 2010
    no he wanted that in 303
  • xbskidxbskid
    edited July 2010
    kane wrote: »
    no he wanted that in 303

    I was thinking 302, because the summoning ritual was being performed in the presence of Sam & Max's ancestors, who thwarted Papierwaite's initial efforts.
  • NeeloNeelo
    edited July 2010
    If the toybox was destroyed, and Charlie Hotep somehow survived, he would be incapable of summoning Junior, since the full toybox was needed for that.
  • ShwooShwoo
    edited July 2010
    There's no reason that Sam and Max couldn't have stopped Papierwaite from destroying the toybox, causing everything to proceed normally. Just because Max's brain may not have been stolen doesn't mean they wouldn't have got involved.

    There's not even any reason Skun-ka'pe couldn't have escaped the original Penal Zone and stolen Max's brain anyway.
  • queen_of_the_lobstersqueen_of_the_lobsters
    edited July 2010
    Shwoo wrote: »
    There's not even any reason Skun-ka'pe couldn't have escaped the original Penal Zone and stolen Max's brain anyway.

    I always thought Skunkape escaped from the Penal Zone after Papierwaite unplugged and stole the Toybox. Since the Toybox was powering the dimensional rift generator, unplugging it would destroy the new dimension, giving Skunkape a way back to Earth.
  • FalancaFalanca
    edited July 2010
    queen_of_the_lobsters wrote: »
    I always thought Skunkape escaped from the Penal Zone after Papierwaite unplugged and stole the Toybox. Since the Toybox was powering the dimensional rift generator, unplugging it would destroy the new dimension, giving Skunkape a way back to Earth.

    Yes, simple as that. No new Penal Zone in the basement = No brain removal. Papierwaite would just visit the basement, take the toybox, go back, and then when Sam gets back from his "ill-timed bathroom break", Max would tell Sam "Toybox? Oh, Paperweight got it." and pretty much nothing else.

    Sam clones would be scattered all over the place, since it was
    Charlie's
    plan from the beginning, but it wouldn't be really useful as in this reality, Skun'ka-pe is still imprisoned and Max's brain wouldn't be used to attract the toys scattered around the galaxy, and pull them in the Toybox, so it wouldn't be full and
    Charlie
    would be unable to do the ritual. Oh, also, there is a possibility that Papierwaite and Yoggy would destroy the Toybox immediately, as it's proven that Toys also get destroyed even from a distance when Toybox is destroyed. But that seems unlikely since they wouldn't bother theirselves to get all the toys in the universe in 303. My bet is on that Yoggy would give the task of obtaining the Cthonic Destroyer, and then would give Max divine Psychic powers to pull all the toys in the toybox, and eventually they would try destroying all toys. Assumingly that kind of a ritual would take place on the Museum's roof, Samulacra would try to interfere in the last moment, but both Yoggy and Papierwaite would try to hold them down while Max uses his Cthonic Destroyer to get rid of the Toybox once and for all.
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